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Ziyuan Yao  
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 More options Apr 27 2012, 9:21 pm
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From: Ziyuan Yao <yaoziy...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:21:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Apr 27 2012 9:21 pm
Subject: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
PIE Transformer automatically adds diacritics to English words on a Web page to indicate their pronunciations. This has three uses:

1. For English-as-a-second-language (ESL) people to learn correct English word pronunciations.

2. For native English-speaking children to learn how to read. (See "No Child Left Behind Act".)

3. Recreational use. Show off a sentence in the PIE form to your online friends or use it in your commercial campaigns.

Go here and see it yourself:

https://sites.google.com/site/phoneticallyintuitiveenglish/


 
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R H Draney  
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 More options Apr 28 2012, 1:31 am
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From: R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net>
Date: 27 Apr 2012 22:31:54 -0700
Local: Sat, Apr 28 2012 1:31 am
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
Ziyuan Yao filted:

>PIE Transformer automatically adds diacritics to English words on a Web pag=
>e to indicate their pronunciations. This has three uses:

>Go here and see it yourself:

>https://sites.google.com/site/phoneticallyintuitiveenglish/

Why are so many people lately posting links with the "https://" prefix?...I can
simply click on a regular unsecured link when I'm reading Usenet, but with a
secure link I have to copy the entire link, open a new browser tab, and paste
the link into it....r

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Athel Cornish-Bowden  
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 More options Apr 28 2012, 1:52 am
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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:52:32 +0200
Local: Sat, Apr 28 2012 1:52 am
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
On 2012-04-28 05:31:54 +0000, R H Draney said:

> Ziyuan Yao filted:

>> PIE Transformer automatically adds diacritics to English words on a Web pag=
>> e to indicate their pronunciations. This has three uses:

>> Go here and see it yourself:

>> https://sites.google.com/site/phoneticallyintuitiveenglish/

> Why are so many people lately posting links with the "https://" prefix?...I can
> simply click on a regular unsecured link when I'm reading Usenet, but with a
> secure link I have to copy the entire link, open a new browser tab, and paste
> the link into it....r

It's especially peculiar when the same link works perfectly well
without the s (as is the case with this one).

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Stan Brown  
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 More options Apr 28 2012, 7:48 am
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From: Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:48:08 -0400
Local: Sat, Apr 28 2012 7:48 am
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
On 27 Apr 2012 22:31:54 -0700, R H Draney wrote:

> Ziyuan Yao filted:

> >PIE Transformer automatically adds diacritics to English words on a Web pag=
> >e to indicate their pronunciations. This has three uses:

> >Go here and see it yourself:

> >https://sites.google.com/site/phoneticallyintuitiveenglish/

> Why are so many people lately posting links with the "https://" prefix?...I can
> simply click on a regular unsecured link when I'm reading Usenet, but with a
> secure link I have to copy the entire link, open a new browser tab, and paste
> the link into it....r

You seem to be posting with Direct Read News.  I don't know that
product, but I would hope it's customizable as to the form of text
that it recognizes as a link; most newsreaders are, I believe.

Otherwise I think you should report it as a bug.  https-type links
have been around for a lot of years, and there's really no excuse for
a newsreader not to recognize them.

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is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
                                                        --Mark Twain
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Robert Bannister  
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 More options Apr 28 2012, 8:28 pm
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From: Robert Bannister <robb...@bigpond.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:28:32 +0800
Local: Sat, Apr 28 2012 8:28 pm
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
On 28/04/12 1:31 PM, R H Draney wrote:

> Ziyuan Yao filted:

>> PIE Transformer automatically adds diacritics to English words on a Web pag=
>> e to indicate their pronunciations. This has three uses:

>> Go here and see it yourself:

>> https://sites.google.com/site/phoneticallyintuitiveenglish/

> Why are so many people lately posting links with the "https://" prefix?...I can
> simply click on a regular unsecured link when I'm reading Usenet, but with a
> secure link I have to copy the entire link, open a new browser tab, and paste
> the link into it....r

I just click and shazam, it appears, but thanks for telling me that the
almost ubiquitous "s" stands for "secure".

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R H Draney  
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 More options Apr 29 2012, 12:07 am
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From: R H Draney <dadoc...@spamcop.net>
Date: 28 Apr 2012 21:07:31 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 29 2012 12:07 am
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
Lane filted:

But unlike any "real" newsreader, I could use it at the office....r

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Curlytop  
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 More options Apr 29 2012, 2:16 pm
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From: Curlytop <pvstownsend.zyx....@ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:16:30 +0100
Local: Sun, Apr 29 2012 2:16 pm
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
Ziyuan Yao set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum:

> PIE Transformer automatically adds diacritics to English words on a Web
> page to indicate their pronunciations. This has three uses:

> 1. For English-as-a-second-language (ESL) people to learn correct English
> word pronunciations.

> 2. For native English-speaking children to learn how to read. (See "No
> Child Left Behind Act".)

> 3. Recreational use. Show off a sentence in the PIE form to your online
> friends or use it in your commercial campaigns.

> Go here and see it yourself:

> https://sites.google.com/site/phoneticallyintuitiveenglish/

Don't like it. It makes English look like Vietnamese. I learned to read
English as she is writ without the help of such funny little marks. A bit
of PIE in the sky there methinks.
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Athel Cornish-Bowden  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 10:33 am
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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <athel...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:33:06 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 10:33 am
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
On 2012-04-29 20:16:30 +0200, Curlytop <pvstownsend.zyx....@ntlworld.com> said:

Yes. English spelling isn't the most rational and logical system in the
world, but it does have one huge advantage shared only (as far as I can
see) by Dutch and Serbian among European languages, that it manages
without needing to be defaced with diacritical marks (though I suppose
that a Turk might argue that i has a diacritical mark).

The sample sentence is too short to deduce the system from, but I did
wonder why "fox" is spelt "fox", whereas "dog", with the same vowel
sound, is "dög".

> I learned to read
> English as she is writ without the help of such funny little marks. A bit
> of PIE in the sky there methinks.

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Curlytop  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 3:40 pm
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From: Curlytop <pvstownsend.zyx....@ntlworld.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:40:41 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
Athel Cornish-Bowden set the following eddies spiralling through the
space-time continuum:

> Yes. English spelling isn't the most rational and logical system in the
> world, but it does have one huge advantage shared only (as far as I can
> see) by Dutch and Serbian among European languages, that it manages
> without needing to be defaced with diacritical marks (though I suppose
> that a Turk might argue that i has a diacritical mark).

Would a Serb see Љ and Њ as diacritic variations of Л and Н?

> The sample sentence is too short to deduce the system from, but I did
> wonder why "fox" is spelt "fox", whereas "dog", with the same vowel
> sound, is "dög".

The o in dog has a different sound in AmE (much longer) from the o of fox,
which latter applies (as nearly as it can) to both words in BrE.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden  
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 More options Apr 30 2012, 4:15 pm
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From: Athel Cornish-Bowden <acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr>
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:15:22 +0200
Local: Mon, Apr 30 2012 4:15 pm
Subject: Re: A Chrome extension that show English word pronunciations by diacritics
On 2012-04-30 19:40:41 +0000, Curlytop said:

> Athel Cornish-Bowden set the following eddies spiralling through the
> space-time continuum:

>> Yes. English spelling isn't the most rational and logical system in the
>> world, but it does have one huge advantage shared only (as far as I can
>> see) by Dutch and Serbian among European languages, that it manages
>> without needing to be defaced with diacritical marks (though I suppose
>> that a Turk might argue that i has a diacritical mark).

> Would a Serb see Љ and Њ as diacritic variations of Л and Н?

I was assuming not (as they're shown as separate letters in the
alphabet) but we'd need to ask a Serb.

>> The sample sentence is too short to deduce the system from, but I did
>> wonder why "fox" is spelt "fox", whereas "dog", with the same vowel
>> sound, is "dög".

> The o in dog has a different sound in AmE (much longer) from the o of fox,
> which latter applies (as nearly as it can) to both words in BrE.

OK, that probably explains the ö.

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