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Robin Bignall  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 2:46 pm
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From: Robin Bignall <docro...@ntlworld.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:46:33 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations

On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:54:36 -0500, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:
>In article <3um2a81lt3av4oaodg6d8pkks63irtj...@4ax.com>,
> "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

>> I don't think there's anything there that regular AUEers would consider
>> revolutionary or heretical.

>> I shall explore further

>I've been exploring - discovering all kinds of things I never  knew.

That happens every time I go exploring.  Quite depressing.
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Mike L  
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From: Mike L <n...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:47:52 +0000
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:46:33 +0000, Robin Bignall

<docro...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 19:54:36 -0500, MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net> wrote:

>>In article <3um2a81lt3av4oaodg6d8pkks63irtj...@4ax.com>,
>> "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net> wrote:

>>> I don't think there's anything there that regular AUEers would consider
>>> revolutionary or heretical.

>>> I shall explore further

>>I've been exploring - discovering all kinds of things I never  knew.

>That happens every time I go exploring.  Quite depressing.

"...
 So he stood in his shoes
    And he wonder'd,
    He wonder'd,
  He stood in his
    Shoes and he wonder'd. "

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Glenn Knickerbocker  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 9:59 pm
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From: Glenn Knickerbocker <N...@bestweb.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:59:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:47:52 +0000, Mike L wrote:
>"...
> So he stood in his shoes
>    And he wonder'd,
>    He wonder'd,
>  He stood in his
>    Shoes and he wonder'd. "

http://www.allmusic.com/performance/a-nation-of-cowslips-for-chorus-m...

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Mike L  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 4:41 pm
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From: Mike L <n...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:41:43 +0000
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 4:41 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:59:00 -0500, Glenn Knickerbocker

<N...@bestweb.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:47:52 +0000, Mike L wrote:
>>"...
>> So he stood in his shoes
>>    And he wonder'd,
>>    He wonder'd,
>>  He stood in his
>>    Shoes and he wonder'd. "

>http://www.allmusic.com/performance/a-nation-of-cowslips-for-chorus-m...

Thanks for that, Glenn. Argento's completely new to me. Of course,
these days it's a nation of oil-seed rape.

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Stan Brown  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 8:33 pm
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From: Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:33:02 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:11:10 +1100, Peter Moylan wrote:
> The letters I receive from Nigeria often have the
> salutation "Dear". Not "Dear Peter" or "Dear Mr Moylan". Just a bare "Dear".

That seems fairly usual in African and Asian business English, where
an American would be taught to write "Dear Sir or Madam".  (Or at
least _this_ American was so taught, an embarrassing number of years
ago.)

When I get emails addressed to "Dear," I always have to suppress my
impulse to reply with a salutation of "Darling" or even "Sweetie".

--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
                                                        --Mark Twain
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Stan Brown  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 8:34 pm
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From: Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:34:03 -0500
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations

On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:06:16 -0500, tony cooper wrote:
> I have
> received calls offering a paid holiday, including airfare, in Orlando.

Good god!  Couldn't they have come up with some more attractive
destination to offer?

--
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is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
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Peter Moylan  
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 More options Nov 14 2012, 11:25 pm
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From: Peter Moylan <inva...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:25:00 +1100
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On 13/11/12 19:18, Dr Nick wrote:

> Peter Moylan <inva...@peter.pmoylan.org.invalid> writes:

>> It's not only the e-mail. It was interesting to see the "all gangsters
>> are Nigerian" stereotype in the South African film "District 9".

> Mind you, Florida is getting close in my opinion (no, I haven't won a
> bloody holiday, now get off my phone) - Tony take note.

I've recently been woken up in the middle of the night, more than once,
by a text message saying that I've won a million pounds. The sending
numbers vary, but they all start with 44. That's neither Nigeria nor
Florida.

--
Peter Moylan, Newcastle, NSW, Australia.      http://www.pmoylan.org
For an e-mail address, see my web page.


 
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tony cooper  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 1:56 am
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From: tony cooper <tony.cooper...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:56:25 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:34:03 -0500, Stan Brown

<the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:06:16 -0500, tony cooper wrote:
>> I have
>> received calls offering a paid holiday, including airfare, in Orlando.

>Good god!  Couldn't they have come up with some more attractive
>destination to offer?

I have suggested that they consider Ithaca as a Destination City.  One
of the reviews of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (ranked #6 in the
Ithaca list of most popular tourist attractions) states "A great place
to kill time near the airport".  

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida


 
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Garrett Wollman  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 3:09 am
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From: woll...@bimajority.org (Garrett Wollman)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:09:03 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 3:09 am
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
In article <t549a81siar96jr7e1keh40spufphsn...@4ax.com>,
tony cooper  <tony.cooper...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I have suggested that they [phone spammers] consider Ithaca as a
>Destination City.  One of the reviews of the Cornell Lab of
>Ornithology (ranked #6 in the Ithaca list of most popular tourist
>attractions) states "A great place to kill time near the airport".

But Ithaca is Gorges!

-GAWollman
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woll...@bimajority.org| repeated, than the story of a large research program
Opinions not shared by| that impaled itself upon a false central assumption
my employers.         | accepted by all practitioners? - S.J. Gould, 1993


 
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Stan Brown  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 6:07 pm
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From: Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:07:16 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations

It is indeed.  There's a forest called Sapsucker Woods, a few acres
in size, adjacent to the building, and it has beautiful walking
trails: all leveled out and covered with wood chips, so that they are
usable even when the ground is muddy.  When I was recovering from hip
and knee replacements, I walked there frequently because the trails
were very easy for someone who could walk only with difficulty and a
cane.(*)  It's a peaceful place, except when an airplane is taking
off or arriving.  But Ithaca's airport is fortunately not a busy one.

I saw a notable bird only rarely, but could hear their calls in the
forest.

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/Page.aspx?pid=1576

(*) I'm about 98% recovered now, thank you. :-)  I haven't used the
cane since three or four months after the surgeries.

--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
                                                        --Mark Twain
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Stan Brown  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 6:08 pm
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From: Stan Brown <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:08:27 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 6:08 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations

On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:09:03 +0000 (UTC), Garrett Wollman wrote:

> In article <t549a81siar96jr7e1keh40spufphsn...@4ax.com>,
> tony cooper  <tony.cooper...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >I have suggested that they [phone spammers] consider Ithaca as a
> >Destination City.  One of the reviews of the Cornell Lab of
> >Ornithology (ranked #6 in the Ithaca list of most popular tourist
> >attractions) states "A great place to kill time near the airport".

> But Ithaca is Gorges!

Sapsucker Woods / Cornell Lab of Ornithology is not actually in the
City of Ithaca, but about three or four miles north of the border and
up a VERY steep hill.

--
"The difference between the /almost right/ word and the /right/ word
is ... the difference between the lightning-bug and the lightning."
                                                        --Mark Twain
Stan Brown, Tompkins County, NY, USA       http://OakRoadSystems.com


 
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tony cooper  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 6:20 pm
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From: tony cooper <tony.cooper...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:20:55 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 6:20 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:08:27 -0500, Stan Brown

<the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:09:03 +0000 (UTC), Garrett Wollman wrote:

>> In article <t549a81siar96jr7e1keh40spufphsn...@4ax.com>,
>> tony cooper  <tony.cooper...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >I have suggested that they [phone spammers] consider Ithaca as a
>> >Destination City.  One of the reviews of the Cornell Lab of
>> >Ornithology (ranked #6 in the Ithaca list of most popular tourist
>> >attractions) states "A great place to kill time near the airport".

>> But Ithaca is Gorges!

>Sapsucker Woods / Cornell Lab of Ornithology is not actually in the
>City of Ithaca, but about three or four miles north of the border and
>up a VERY steep hill.

That's OK. Disney World is not in Orlando.  No steep hills, though.  I
suppose you could climb up Thunder Mountain if the guards are
watching.

--
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Jerry Friedman  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 6:24 pm
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From: Jerry Friedman <jerry_fried...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:24:38 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 6:24 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On Nov 14, 11:56 pm, tony cooper <tony.cooper...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:34:03 -0500, Stan Brown

> <the_stan_br...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 10:06:16 -0500, tony cooper wrote:
> >> I have
> >> received calls offering a paid holiday, including airfare, in Orlando.

> >Good god!  Couldn't they have come up with some more attractive
> >destination to offer?

> I have suggested that they consider Ithaca as a Destination City.  One
> of the reviews of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology (ranked #6 in the
> Ithaca list of most popular tourist attractions) states "A great place
> to kill time near the airport".

Orlando has its attractions too.  I got my life Wood Stork in the
Orlando airport while my plane was taxiing.

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tony cooper  
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 More options Nov 15 2012, 6:29 pm
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:29:25 -0500
Local: Thurs, Nov 15 2012 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 15:24:38 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman

You're lucky it wasn't sucked into one of the engines.

--
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Snidely  
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 More options Nov 16 2012, 1:05 am
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:05:13 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 16 2012 1:05 am
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
tony cooper speculated:

He's also assuming that the consumer-level caller ID shows the actual
calling number.  For a call from an individual subscriber, that is
usually the case.   For a call from a PBX, it could show your own
number (if they had already chosen it).

/dps

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From: Snidely <snidely....@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:09:38 -0800
Local: Fri, Nov 16 2012 1:09 am
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
Peter Moylan formulated the question :

> On 12/11/12 14:18, Glenn Knickerbocker wrote:
>> On 11 Nov 2012 13:33:43 -0800, R H Draney wrote:
>>> Why, after announcing that he'll identify ten salutations, are there only
>>> four in the article?...r

>> And why, in discussing "well done," didn't he say "rare"?

> I was struck by the example "That piece of meat is tough because it is
> not well done". I would have said "... because it IS well done".

Depends on the cut, innit?  Some pieces need to be cooked long hours to
break down connecting tissue, etc.   C.f. "pulled pork" and "pot
roast".

/dps

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Mark Brader  
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 More options Nov 25 2012, 12:19 pm
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From: m...@vex.net (Mark Brader)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 11:19:08 -0600
Local: Sun, Nov 25 2012 12:19 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
Nick Atty:

>> Mind you, Florida is getting close in my opinion (no, I haven't won a
>> bloody holiday, now get off my phone) - Tony take note.

Tony Cooper:

> But Florida is only the destination, not the source.  Those telephone
> rooms from which the calls emanate are not usually in Florida.  I have
> received calls offering a paid holiday, including airfare, in Orlando.

I have heard it stated in Canadian news reports that the world capital
for telephone-based scams is Montreal.
--
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Toronto                     Except just this once, of course."
m...@vex.net                                -- John Varley, "Steel Beach"

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MC  
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 More options Nov 25 2012, 2:02 pm
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From: MC <copes...@mapca.inter.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:02:41 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 25 2012 2:02 pm
Subject: Re: Nigerian English Salutations
In article <vbWdncrRkoCRzi_NnZ2dnUVZ_hmdn...@vex.net>,
 m...@vex.net (Mark Brader) wrote:

> I have heard it stated in Canadian news reports that the world capital
> for telephone-based scams is Montreal.

I've heard that too. I also know a couple of Montrealers involved in
that trade.

--

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- Marybones


 
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