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Marius Hancu
Feb 3, 2012, 7:19:58 AM2/3/12
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Hello:
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[The boys try to see if they are on an island; they are amazed at
their findings]
High over this end of the island, the shattered rocks lifted up their
stacks and chimneys. This one, against which Jack leaned, moved with a
grating sound when they pushed.
William Golding, Lord of the Flies
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"the shattered rocks lifted up their stacks and chimneys": is "up"
optional?
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Thanks.
Marius Hancu
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[The boys try to see if they are on an island; they are amazed at
their findings]
High over this end of the island, the shattered rocks lifted up their
stacks and chimneys. This one, against which Jack leaned, moved with a
grating sound when they pushed.
William Golding, Lord of the Flies
---
"the shattered rocks lifted up their stacks and chimneys": is "up"
optional?
--
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
the Omrud
Feb 7, 2012, 3:16:40 AM2/7/12
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David
Marius Hancu
Feb 7, 2012, 6:45:04 AM2/7/12
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On Feb 7, 3:16 am, the Omrud <usenet.om...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > --
> > [The boys try to see if they are on an island; they are amazed at
> > their findings]
>
> > High over this end of the island, the shattered rocks lifted up their
> > stacks and chimneys. This one, against which Jack leaned, moved with a
> > grating sound when they pushed.
>
> > William Golding, Lord of the Flies
> > ---
>
> > "the shattered rocks lifted up their stacks and chimneys": is "up"
> > optional?
>
> I would say Yes.
I found:
> > --
> > [The boys try to see if they are on an island; they are amazed at
> > their findings]
>
> > High over this end of the island, the shattered rocks lifted up their
> > stacks and chimneys. This one, against which Jack leaned, moved with a
> > grating sound when they pushed.
>
> > William Golding, Lord of the Flies
> > ---
>
> > "the shattered rocks lifted up their stacks and chimneys": is "up"
> > optional?
>
> I would say Yes.
7x more samples without “up”
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
Snidely
Feb 9, 2012, 2:13:34 PM2/9/12
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Marius Hancu <marius...@gmail.com> scribbled something like ...
But I would be uncomfortable without the "up" in *this* example. I'm
not quite sure why, but it would make the sentence sound like it was
missing something, unlike the sentence "They lifted their stacks and
chimneys onto the mesa."
Perhaps I'm influenced by the Psalmic adjuration to "lift up your
voices".
/dps
not quite sure why, but it would make the sentence sound like it was
missing something, unlike the sentence "They lifted their stacks and
chimneys onto the mesa."
Perhaps I'm influenced by the Psalmic adjuration to "lift up your
voices".
/dps
Marius Hancu
Feb 10, 2012, 3:31:45 PM2/10/12
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How about:
---
Eyes shining, mouths open, triumphant, they savored the right of
domination. They were lifted up: were friends.
William Golding, Lord of the Flies
---
Is "up" necessary here?
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
---
Eyes shining, mouths open, triumphant, they savored the right of
domination. They were lifted up: were friends.
William Golding, Lord of the Flies
---
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
David Dyer-Bennet
Feb 10, 2012, 3:59:59 PM2/10/12
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Marius Hancu <marius...@gmail.com> writes:
> How about:
>
> ---
> Eyes shining, mouths open, triumphant, they savored the right of
> domination. They were lifted up: were friends.
>
> William Golding, Lord of the Flies
> ---
>
> Is "up" necessary here?
Yes, definitely. "They were lifted" doesn't mean anything. "Lifted up"
> How about:
>
> ---
> Eyes shining, mouths open, triumphant, they savored the right of
> domination. They were lifted up: were friends.
>
> William Golding, Lord of the Flies
> ---
>
> Is "up" necessary here?
relates to "uplifted" and is a good thing (even if not in the David Brin
sort of way that I first think of).
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Marius Hancu
Feb 10, 2012, 5:49:44 PM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 3:59 pm, David Dyer-Bennet <d...@dd-b.net> wrote:
> > ---
> > Eyes shining, mouths open, triumphant, they savored the right of
> > domination. They were lifted up: were friends.
>
> > William Golding, Lord of the Flies
> > ---
>
> > Is "up" necessary here?
>
> Yes, definitely. "They were lifted" doesn't mean anything. "Lifted up"
> relates to "uplifted" and is a good thing (even if not in the David Brin
> sort of way that I first think of).
Thought so.
> > ---
> > Eyes shining, mouths open, triumphant, they savored the right of
> > domination. They were lifted up: were friends.
>
> > William Golding, Lord of the Flies
> > ---
>
> > Is "up" necessary here?
>
> Yes, definitely. "They were lifted" doesn't mean anything. "Lifted up"
> relates to "uplifted" and is a good thing (even if not in the David Brin
> sort of way that I first think of).
Thanks.
Marius Hancu
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