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lcyiu3...@yahoo.com  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 4:02 am
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From: lcyiu3...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 01:02:14 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 4:02 am
Subject: help, please
Dear all,
     Please help me with the following questions.  Thanks a lot!
1.  What's not to love about these adorable creatures?
    I would like to know what"what's not to" here means?  Can I replace them with "why not"?

2. Playing music that drew from influences which are as diverse as heavy metal and opera, Queen was particularly known for its live shows in huge stadiums across the world.

    I would like to know if the verb "drew" can be an intransitive verb when it means " to have a particular idea after you have studied sth or thought about it" ?

3.  NDD( Nature Deficit Disorder) is not considered an actual medical disorder as of yet, but is merely an informal description of the symptoms that may be arising as a result of our disconnecting from nature.

    I would like to know if it is possible to replace "may be arising" with "may arise".  What's the difference between them?  Thank you very much!


 
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Guy Barry  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 4:17 am
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From: "Guy Barry" <guy.ba...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:17:31 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 4:17 am
Subject: Re: help, please

lcyiu3226 wrote in message

news:991db2ef-11f2-4691-a2b2-85e828037c45@googlegroups.com...

> Dear all,
>      Please help me with the following questions.  Thanks a lot!
> 1.  What's not to love about these adorable creatures?
>     I would like to know what"what's not to" here means?  Can I replace
> them with "why not"?

It means roughly "what is there not to love about these adorable creatures",
"or why should these adorable creatures not be loved".  It's informal, and
something of a fixed formula - I'm not quite sure how you'd analyse it.

> 2. Playing music that drew from influences which are as diverse as heavy
> metal and opera, Queen was particularly known for its live shows in huge
> stadiums across the world.
>    I would like to know if the verb "drew" can be an intransitive verb
> when it means " to have a particular idea after you have studied sth or
> thought about it" ?

"Drew from" here means roughly "was influenced by".

> 3.  NDD( Nature Deficit Disorder) is not considered an actual medical
> disorder as of yet, but is merely an informal description of the symptoms
> that may be arising as a result of our disconnecting from nature.
>    I would like to know if it is possible to replace "may be arising" with
> "may arise".  What's the difference between them?  Thank you very much!

I would write "may arise" here.  The progressive form doesn't seem very
natural to me.

--
Guy Barry


 
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GordonD  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 4:50 am
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From: "GordonD" <g.da...@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 09:50:40 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 4:50 am
Subject: Re: help, please
"Guy Barry" <guy.ba...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

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> lcyiu3226 wrote in message
> news:991db2ef-11f2-4691-a2b2-85e828037c45@googlegroups.com...
>> 2. Playing music that drew from influences which are as diverse as heavy
>> metal and opera, Queen was particularly known for its live shows in huge
>> stadiums across the world.

>>    I would like to know if the verb "drew" can be an intransitive verb
>> when it means " to have a particular idea after you have studied sth or
>> thought about it" ?

> "Drew from" here means roughly "was influenced by".

It should be "Queen were particularly known for their live shows..." since
in this case Queen refers to the band and is therefore a plural noun.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."


 
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Derek Turner  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 5:16 am
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From: Derek Turner <frde...@cesmail.net>
Date: 8 Oct 2012 09:16:40 GMT
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 5:16 am
Subject: Re: help, please

On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:50:40 +0100, GordonD wrote:
> It should be "Queen were particularly known for their live shows..."
> since in this case Queen refers to the band and is therefore a plural
> noun.

That's pondian, I believe.

 
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GordonD  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 7:43 am
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From: "GordonD" <g.da...@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:46 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 7:43 am
Subject: Re: help, please
"Derek Turner" <frde...@cesmail.net> wrote in message

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> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:50:40 +0100, GordonD wrote:

>> It should be "Queen were particularly known for their live shows..."
>> since in this case Queen refers to the band and is therefore a plural
>> noun.

> That's pondian, I believe.

I had a feeling it might be.

Sports teams are the same (at least in BrEng - "Chelsea are (not is) top of
the Premier League."
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"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."


 
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 7:47 am
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From: CDB <bellemar...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:47:18 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 7:47 am
Subject: Re: help, please
On 08/10/2012 4:02 AM, lcyiu3...@yahoo.com wrote:

> 1.  What's not to love about these adorable creatures?
>      I would like to know what"what's not to" here means?  Can I replace them with "why not"?

Literally, "What characteristic do these adorable creatures have that is
not worthy of love?"  The question is rhetorical: the expected answer is
"None; they are entirely loveable."

> 2. Playing music that drew from influences which are as diverse as heavy metal and opera,
> Queen was particularly known for its live shows in huge stadiums across the world.
> I would like to know if the verb "drew" can be an intransitive verb when it means
> "to have a particular idea after you have studied sth or thought about it" ?

The metaphor is probably that of drawing water from different sources,
perhaps for irrigation.

> 3.  NDD( Nature Deficit Disorder) is not considered an actual medical disorder as
> of yet, but is merely an informal description of the symptoms that may be arising as
> a result of our disconnecting from nature.
> I would like to know if it is possible to replace "may be arising"
> with "may arise".  What's the difference between them?

There would be a change of meaning.  The use of the progressive form
refers to a present situation: we are disconnected, and these effects
may be arising as we speak.  The use of the plain present leaves the
effects more in the realm of the hypothetical: in the case of our
disconnection from Nature, they may arise.

 
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Peter Duncanson [BrE]  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 8:35 am
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From: "Peter Duncanson [BrE]" <m...@peterduncanson.net>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:35:18 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 8:35 am
Subject: Re: help, please
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:43:46 +0100, "GordonD" <g.da...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

>"Derek Turner" <frde...@cesmail.net> wrote in message
>news:adfjvoFh1osU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:50:40 +0100, GordonD wrote:

>>> It should be "Queen were particularly known for their live shows..."
>>> since in this case Queen refers to the band and is therefore a plural
>>> noun.

>> That's pondian, I believe.

>I had a feeling it might be.

>Sports teams are the same (at least in BrEng - "Chelsea are (not is) top of
>the Premier League."

It's not rigid. The singular is sometimes used.
This blog has one use of the singular for a team. All other instances
seem to be plural:
http://www.agreatadvertforthegame.com/2012/10/05/are-chelsea-even-any...

    To Conclude…

    I am not one to slate a team that is top of the Premier League, but
    I do feel that the quality of play in the division so far this
    season has not been great. Chelsea have emerged as the fortunate
    team on top of a bad bunch (...).

--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)


 
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Mike L  
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 More options Oct 8 2012, 6:01 pm
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From: Mike L <n...@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2012 23:01:14 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 8 2012 6:01 pm
Subject: Re: help, please

On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 07:47:18 -0400, CDB <bellemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 08/10/2012 4:02 AM, lcyiu3...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> 1.  What's not to love about these adorable creatures?
>>      I would like to know what"what's not to" here means?  Can I replace them with "why not"?

>Literally, "What characteristic do these adorable creatures have that is
>not worthy of love?"  The question is rhetorical: the expected answer is
>"None; they are entirely loveable."

CF "It was to die for." Is this structure one of the Yiddishisms we're
absorbing these days?
[...]

--
Mike.


 
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CDB  
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 More options Oct 9 2012, 7:50 am
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From: CDB <bellemar...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:50:28 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 9 2012 7:50 am
Subject: Re: help, please
On 08/10/2012 6:01 PM, Mike L wrote:

> CDB <bellemar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 08/10/2012 4:02 AM, lcyiu3...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> 1.  What's not to love about these adorable creatures?
>>>       I would like to know what"what's not to" here means?  Can I replace them with "why not"?
>> Literally, "What characteristic do these adorable creatures have that is
>> not worthy of love?"  The question is rhetorical: the expected answer is
>> "None; they are entirely loveable."
> CF "It was to die for." Is this structure one of the Yiddishisms we're
> absorbing these days?
> [...]

How did our forebears manage without them?

 
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Robert Bannister  
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 More options Oct 10 2012, 12:06 am
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From: Robert Bannister <rob...@clubtelco.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:06:48 +0800
Local: Wed, Oct 10 2012 12:06 am
Subject: Re: help, please
On 8/10/12 4:02 PM, lcyiu3...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Dear all, Please help me with the following questions.  Thanks a
> lot! 1.  What's not to love about these adorable creatures? I would
> like to know what"what's not to" here means?  Can I replace them with
> "why not"?

Not really. Everything about these creatures is adorable. Name one thing
that is not lovable.

> 2. Playing music that drew from influences which are as diverse as
> heavy metal and opera, Queen was particularly known for its live
> shows in huge stadiums across the world.

> I would like to know if the verb "drew" can be an intransitive verb
> when it means " to have a particular idea after you have studied sth
> or thought about it" ?

I don't understand the above sentence. Yes, "Draw" can be intransitive;
in this sentence it means the music took elements from diverse sources -
"drew from" (also "drew upon") means something like "picked out from"
like drawing water from a well.

> 3.  NDD( Nature Deficit Disorder) is not considered an actual medical
> disorder as of yet, but is merely an informal description of the
> symptoms that may be arising as a result of our disconnecting from
> nature.

> I would like to know if it is possible to replace "may be arising"
> with "may arise".  What's the difference between them?  Thank you
> very much!

I prefer "may arise"; "may be arising" means it is happening at this moment.

--
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