what is the meaning of hipcrime?

Graphite

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Oct 21, 2004, 2:41:06 AM10/21/04

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I often see the word "hipcrime" or the words spelled like so in some news
groups but I can't look it up in a dictionary.can somebody tell me what is
the meaning of it?

Graphite

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Oct 21, 2004, 2:41:06 AM10/21/04

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Dylan Nicholson

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Oct 21, 2004, 2:52:15 AM10/21/04

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"Graphite" <lia...@163.com> wrote in message news:cl7lon$9bj$1...@mail.cn99.com...

> I often see the word "hipcrime" or the words spelled like so in some news
> groups but I can't look it up in a dictionary.can somebody tell me what is
> the meaning of it?
>

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HipcrimeFloods

I don't think it's a word, it was somebody's username.

Donna Richoux

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Oct 21, 2004, 6:01:53 AM10/21/04

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Graphite <lia...@163.com> wrote:

Does this fit? I found it by Googling on "hipcrime":

http://www.ganesha.org/ptb/hipcrime.html

If you are a newsgroup subscriber, especially in the
alt. newsgroups, you're familiar with the problem.
Your messages (and everybody else's) are being
cancelled and replaced by gibberish. Not only that,
messages from OTHER newsgroups are being cancelled,
replaced with gibberish, and crossposted to your
newsgroup. The net effect is to make the newsgroups
almost unusable.

The individual who is doing this- I've seen the name
"Hipcrime" in news.admin.net-abuse.usenet- may want
to think about what he is doing...
[snip]

It's not completely clear whether the word came from the person or the
activity.

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Best -- Donna Richoux

Mark Barratt

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Oct 21, 2004, 7:11:26 AM10/21/04

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Donna Richoux wrote:

I don't think I've ever seen this, and I'd be surprised to,
because nearly all news servers will not accept 'cancel'
messages, there being no way to verify that the cancel message
originates with the original poster. Most news clients don't even
have a way of sending 'cancel' messages (I see that XanaNews
does, but I've never tried it).

--
Mark Barratt
Budapest

Graphite

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Oct 21, 2004, 10:25:27 AM10/21/04

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thank both of you!

jerry_f...@yahoo.com

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Oct 21, 2004, 11:38:47 AM10/21/04

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As far as I know, it was coined in the science-fiction novel _Stand on
Zanzibar_, by John Brunner. A definition appears in the book. I seem
to recall that it meant a crime, usually not very destructive,
committed as a blow against authority. If it's somebody's username,
the user may be expressing sympathy with that idea.

--
Jerry Friedman is pleased that the present world has notable
differences from the world of _Stand on Zanzibar_.

Richard Ulrich

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Oct 21, 2004, 12:07:01 PM10/21/04

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:41:06 +0800, "Graphite" <lia...@163.com>
wrote:

> I often see the word "hipcrime" or the words spelled like so in some news
> groups but I can't look it up in a dictionary.can somebody tell me what is
> the meaning of it?
>

Here's something about the origin, dated March, 2004.
Google on "hipcrime vocabulary"
======== From www.talkaboutradio.com (reformatted)

Hipcrime (as a term) was coined in the late 1960's by the sci-fi
writer John Brunner, in his novel "Stand on Zanzibar". Brunner raised
a number of sociological issues in "Stand on Zanzibar" that were
considered to be really "out there" at the time of publication, but
that turned out to be everyday stuff by the time the 1990's rolled
around. He did a better job than many have done at peering into the
future, and deserves credit for that.

Somebody thought the "Hipcrime vocabulary" in Brunner's novel was
neat, and decided to steal the name and concept to describe their own
actions. They missed out on the most interesting idea in the novel
though... A running, mythical sociological text entitled "You Are an
Ignorant Idiot", that was put forward in the novel by means that are
commonly described as "the blogosphere" today. Brunner never got
credit for foreseeing the blogosphere but if you read his novel, it is
there in plain sight for all to see.

Only the name "blog" is missing.

Charles, N5PVL
==========
I haven't read the book in years, but I still have
the paperback on my shelf. Also, "The Jagged Orbit."

--
Rich Ulrich, wpi...@pitt.edu
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html

Mike Strachan

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Oct 21, 2004, 2:48:02 PM10/21/04

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:38:47 -0700, jerry_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

[snip]

> As far as I know, it was coined in the science-fiction novel _Stand on
> Zanzibar_, by John Brunner. A definition appears in the book. I seem
> to recall that it meant a crime, usually not very destructive,
> committed as a blow against authority. If it's somebody's username,
> the user may be expressing sympathy with that idea.

(HIPCRIME You committed one when you opened this book. Keep it up. It's
our only hope.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan)

jerry_f...@yahoo.com

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Oct 21, 2004, 6:41:01 PM10/21/04

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Thank you. Brings back memories of reading a big dust-jacketed
hardback while lying on Canadian Shield next to a lake in the Parry
Sound district of Ontario and listening to a counselor play the guitar.
--
Jerry Friedman