wanted: gulliver's travels illustrations
Xah Lee
Anyone know good ones? or thoughts?
i'm in particular interested in ones that illustrate the real story, as
oppose to silly dwarfs and giants that illustrates nothing.
Don Phillipson
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> i'm looking for illustrations for Gulliver's Travels.
> Anyone know good ones? or thoughts?
>
> i'm in particular interested in ones that illustrate the real story, as
> oppose to silly dwarfs and giants that illustrates nothing.
An American TV company recently filmed Gulliver's
Travels (with Ted Danson as the protagonist) so you
may find publilcity stills on the Internet cf. www.tvo.org or
http://www.tvo.org/TVO/WebObjects/TVO.woa/wo/6l9hUO98t1IbjAFttl2Xvw/2.0.1.29.9.1.3.3.1.3.1
Gulliver's Travels includes several discrete stories
(Lilliput, Laputa, Houhynymns etc.) so you may
find there is no single "real story."
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
John Dean
If by "silly dwarfs and giants" you mean the people whose size relative
to Gulliver varied from small to very large, I'm afraid they *are* part
of the story. And, I suspect, the most popular part as far as
illustrators are concerned.
Howsomever, I put "gulliver" into a Google Images search and got 74,000
hits so that should keep you going. The first was a book illustration:
http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/images/gulliver.jpg
And there were others of this kind. There are also many stills from the
various Gulliver movies of which my favourite by far is Charles
Sturridge's 1996 version. Sturridge doesn't do much but what he does is
first class. (Though his recent version of "Lassie" may, by all
accounts, be an exception.)
If you find one of Gulliver pissing on the fire, do post the link here.
--
John Dean
Oxford
Xah Lee
after a few min of browsing, i don't find them likable. Except i found
out that Arthur Rackham has done it. Those are great.
(http://rackham.artpassions.net/gullivergallery.html)
i haven't seen any movies of Gulliver yet, nor seen or looked into any
illustrations till now. However, in my porn illustration browsing trek,
i have seen the complete set drawn by the master Milo Manara, who has
done a illustrated book “Gullivera”, replacing the protaganist by a
female figure. Among the drawings, you'll find her dousing the fire in
Queen's champer by pissing, letting the assembly of soldiers pass
between her legs, and sundry other luscius images bound to be loved by
at least half of humanity.
(you'll find tons of Manara's work on the web, including full scans of
many of his books. It's also on amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1561631701/ref=sib_dp_pt/104-0306752-6181547#reader-link
)
but anyhow, seconding to John's sentiment, if anyone come across some
illustrations of gulliver worthy of note, please let us know!
Xah
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Xah
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Mike Lyle
[...]
> And there were others of this kind. There are also many stills from
> the various Gulliver movies of which my favourite by far is Charles
> Sturridge's 1996 version. Sturridge doesn't do much but what he does
> is first class. (Though his recent version of "Lassie" may, by all
> accounts, be an exception.)
Perhaps you had the good fortune to miss his undergraduate Coriolanus.
--
Mike.
irwell
<john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote:
>Xah Lee wrote:
>> i'm looking for illustrations for Gulliver's Travels.
>>
>> Anyone know good ones? or thoughts?
>>
>> i'm in particular interested in ones that illustrate the real story,
>> as oppose to silly dwarfs and giants that illustrates nothing.
>>
>> Xah
>> x...@xahlee.org
>> ? http://xahlee.org/
>
>If by "silly dwarfs and giants" you mean the people whose size relative
>to Gulliver varied from small to very large, I'm afraid they *are* part
>of the story. And, I suspect, the most popular part as far as
>illustrators are concerned.
>Howsomever, I put "gulliver" into a Google Images search and got 74,000
>hits so that should keep you going. The first was a book illustration:
>
>http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/images/gulliver.jpg
>
>And there were others of this kind. There are also many stills from the
>various Gulliver movies of which my favourite by far is Charles
>Sturridge's 1996 version. Sturridge doesn't do much but what he does is
>first class. (Though his recent version of "Lassie" may, by all
>accounts, be an exception.)
>
>If you find one of Gulliver pissing on the fire, do post the link here.
Is the magazine 'Lilliput' still going?
Wordsmith
Right. It's a novel in the "novel by courtesy" sense.
W : )
Father Ignatius
"irwell" <ho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Is the magazine 'Lilliput' still going?
Not as such. It merged with Men Only in 1960 (saw that coming, dincha?)
Father Ignatius
http://www.wissdok.com/cari/p1933/bigimages/hi015.gif ("Now, boys, if the
Geneva strings burst before we've finished with him we'll use this rope to
tie him down," by the illustrator of Winnie-the-Poo[h])? (Referenced at
http://www.wissdok.com/cari/p1933/1933start.html, but my German isn't up to
the challenge).
The John Bull-like character seems to be John Bull, yes?
The pipe-smoking character represents La Belle Fronks, yes? (It is
Clemenceau?)
The character in the top hat seems to be Mussolini? Or is it the Italian
generic of John Bull, if there is one and, if there is, who is it?
And the character in the Noddy-cap must then, by default, represent Germany,
but I can't imagine what individual or national figure is being represented.
Enlightenment, please.
TIA
--
Nat
Donna Richoux
I never saw him, either, but I found this:
http://www.acs-onweb.de/hd/content/pres_c3_symbols_of_identity/GerCulSym
bols.html
German Cultural Symbols
Embodiment -- 'Deutscher Michel'
The figure of 'Deutscher Michel' (German Mike?)
symbolizes outstanding features of the German
character: with his night cap and sleeping gown he
represents the sleepy, slow-minded, uneducated
German bourgeois. Originating in the 16th century,
he came to represent the nationalistic democratic
opposition during the revolutionary years at the
beginning of the 19th century. Today he is mainly
used as a non-official representation in cartoons,
comparable to Uncle Sam (US) and John Bull (Great
Britain).
http://www.hdg.de/karikatur/view_content/class50_id4.html
--
Best -- Donna Richoux
Xah Lee
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
at the bottom there's a illustration on Russia, of historical figures
and milestones and memorabilia. Can anyone help me identify the items?
Xah
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Donna Richoux
> I've now put some of the finest work by Milo Manara:
> http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
>
> at the bottom there's a illustration on Russia, of historical figures
> and milestones and memorabilia. Can anyone help me identify the items?
The one you mark as "white-haired woman" looks like the right century
for Catherine the Great, and the gentler bearded man could be Tolstoy.
You should double-check these guesses, though.
Tony Cooper
>at the bottom there's a illustration on Russia, of historical figures
>and milestones and memorabilia. Can anyone help me identify the items?
>
The sketch behind the chess scene is a representation of a Russian
tryptic (or tryptich) icon.
--
Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL
Alan Hope
The bloke with the glasses is Igor Stravinsky, and the gymnast will be
Olga Korbut. I think the woman is Catherine the Great, seen here:
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/tsarskoe/historyfive.html
No idea who the ballerina is. Could be anyone.
--
AH
Xah Lee
Thanks for the various helps.
The figures remaining unclear or unsure are:
• Who's the bearded guy on the right of Cathering II?
• Who's the silhouette on the upper right corner?
• on the lower left there's a ballerina. Is she a particular famous
dancer or, are Russia particularly known for ballet? (if latter, please
provide links if you have)
• There's Russian triptych icons on top. (thanks Cooper) However,
after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_icons, i couldn't
really relate to it. Are there other pictures?
• There's a bunch of barbarians on horses. I thought these are
Mongolians, probably referring to Genghis Khan. Does Russians think the
history of Mongolia somewhat related to Russian? Because when i grew up
in Taiwan, we were taught some vague association that we Chinese are
rather proud of it to because Mongolia history are somewhat Chinese
history too.
Xah
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∑ http://xahlee.org/
Jack Campin - bogus address
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I presume the spaces in the URL are really something else?
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Fred
I have the ebook in pdf format named Gullivera, but it's erotic...
Peter Duncanson
<bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> http://xahlee.org/Periodic dosage dir/lacru/manara.html
>
>404 Not Found.
>
>I presume the spaces in the URL are really something else?
>
It seems so. This works:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
--
Peter Duncanson
UK (posting from a.u.e)
Tony Cooper
>http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
>
>• There's Russian triptych icons on top. (thanks Cooper) However,
>after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_icons, i couldn't
>really relate to it. Are there other pictures?
>
A Russian triptych icon is usually painted on a wood panel. If the
artist paints two icons and hinges them together, it's called a
dyptich. If he paints three and hinges them together, it's a
tryptich.
So what you really want to research is Russian icons and not the
tryptich since the tryptich is only the combining of three icons into
one hinged unit.
See: http://www.cenacle.co.uk/lists/Icons.htm and imagine any three
icons hinged together.
A tryptich need not be Russian art, and need not have a religious
theme. It just has to consist of three panels that are linked
together.
Art-aspect aside, the tryptich design is handy. They stand upright on
a table-top without propping up or tipping over.
Xah Lee
door-sized.
Xah
Richard Bollard
>http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
>
>Thanks for the various helps.
>
>• on the lower left there's a ballerina. Is she a particular famous
>dancer or, are Russia particularly known for ballet? (if latter, please
>provide links if you have)
>
Anna Pavlova?
--
Richard Bollard
Canberra Australia
To email, I'm at AMT not spAMT.
Xah Lee
> >http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
> >Thanks for the various helps.
Richard Bollard wrote:
> >· on the lower left there's a ballerina. Is she a particular famous...
> Anna Pavlova?
Super!
Now the question left is the bearded man besides Empress Catherine II,
and the siloutte on top right. I'm sure one of them gotta be Leo
Tolstoy.
it'd also nice to know confrim who are the men on horses.
Xah
Towse
> http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
>
> Thanks for the various helps.
>
> The figures remaining unclear or unsure are:
>
> • Who's the bearded guy on the right of Cathering II?
Judging from the inclusion of Catherine and Peter, this may be Ivan the
Terrible.
> • Who's the silhouette on the upper right corner?
Trotsky with the end of the icepick showing out the back of his neck.
> • on the lower left there's a ballerina. Is she a particular famous
> dancer or, are Russia particularly known for ballet? (if latter, please
> provide links if you have)
>
> • There's Russian triptych icons on top. (thanks Cooper) However,
> after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_icons, i couldn't
> really relate to it. Are there other pictures?
>
> • There's a bunch of barbarians on horses. I thought these are
> Mongolians, probably referring to Genghis Khan. Does Russians think the
> history of Mongolia somewhat related to Russian? Because when i grew up
> in Taiwan, we were taught some vague association that we Chinese are
> rather proud of it to because Mongolia history are somewhat Chinese
> history too.
The folks out at Lake Baikal claim Genghis Khan was born at Olkhon
Island on the lake. His mother purportedly had gone home to her people,
the Buryat, to have her child with kinfolk nearby. His birthplace,
though, is probably less a factor in his inclusion in the "famous
Russians and Russian stuff" artwork than his role in the destruction the
Mongols let loose on Russia back in the 1200s.
> Xah
> x...@xahlee.org
> ∑ http://xahlee.org/
>
>
> Alan Hope wrote:
>
>>Tony Cooper goes:
>>
>>
>>>On 26 Feb 2006 10:19:58 -0800, "Xah Lee" <x...@xahlee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>at the bottom there's a illustration on Russia, of historical figures
>>>>and milestones and memorabilia. Can anyone help me identify the items?
>>>>
>>>
>>>The sketch behind the chess scene is a representation of a Russian
>>>tryptic (or tryptich) icon.
>>
>>The bloke with the glasses is Igor Stravinsky, and the gymnast will be
>>Olga Korbut. I think the woman is Catherine the Great, seen here:
>>http://www.alexanderpalace.org/tsarskoe/historyfive.html
>>
>>No idea who the ballerina is. Could be anyone.
--
Sal
Ye olde swarm of links: thousands of links for writers, researchers and
the terminally curious <http://www.internet-resources.com/writers>
Alan Hope
>Judging from the inclusion of Catherine
Never mind that. Where the fuck have you been? What time do you call
this? You do know your mother has been worried sick? What happened to
your phone, for crying out loud, electromagnetic pulse?
--
AH
Bernie
"Towse" <se...@towse.com> wrote in message
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> Xah Lee wrote:
>> http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lacru/manara.html
>>
>> Thanks for the various helps.
>>
>> The figures remaining unclear or unsure are:
>>
>
> Judging from the inclusion of Catherine and Peter, this may be
> Ivan the Terrible.
>
>
> Trotsky with the end of the icepick showing out the back of his
> neck.
>
>> dancer or, are Russia particularly known for ballet? (if
>> latter, please
>> provide links if you have)
This is more than likely Pavlova, the most famous of all Russian
ballerinas. (Google her).
>>
>> . There's Russian triptych icons on top. (thanks Cooper)
>> However,
>> after reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_icons, i
>> couldn't
>> really relate to it. Are there other pictures?
>>
>> . There's a bunch of barbarians on horses. I thought these are
>> Mongolians, probably referring to Genghis Khan. Does Russians
>> think the
>> history of Mongolia somewhat related to Russian? Because when
>> i grew up
>> in Taiwan, we were taught some vague association that we
>> Chinese are
>> rather proud of it to because Mongolia history are somewhat
>> Chinese
>> history too.
They look very much like Cossacks to me. (The Taras Bulba troupe
were very popular -- again, Google will help with this.)
Cheers, Bernie.
>
> The folks out at Lake Baikal claim Genghis Khan was born at
> Olkhon Island on the lake. His mother purportedly had gone home
> to her people, the Buryat, to have her child with kinfolk
> nearby. His birthplace, though, is probably less a factor in
> his inclusion in the "famous Russians and Russian stuff"
> artwork than his role in the destruction the Mongols let loose
> on Russia back in the 1200s.
>
>> Xah
>> x...@xahlee.org
>> ? http://xahlee.org/