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Donna Anderson

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May 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/26/96
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When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
for what she is?

Brian E. Kushner

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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Pornos??? Where did you hear this shit at??

Brian

ThomasD222

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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... And why should it matter? She's still great in her current role, and
that's what counts.

Regards,

Kristel S. Oxley-Johns

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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In article <31A8D4...@hom.net>, Donna says...

>
>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>for what she is?

Um, I am afraid that you are misinformed. Gillian Anderson did very
little film whatsoever before the X-Files. She was predominantly a
stage actress. I for one would be interested in any proof you
have to back up your claims that she ever did porn.

Kristel

flam...@mulberry.com

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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She didn't, so Kristel, you should have just flamed this guy to hell
rather than be so polite!:)

She did only one film (prior to XF), The Turning which apparently has something
like 3 other titles, but it was not a porn. I hear there is a 2 sec. scene of
her nude when she's changing or something? I haven't seen it myself, but I can
tell you all that GA never did and never will do porn. So all you
pervs out there, please stop posting this shit and all the Pamela Anderson
comparisons.. it's getting sooo tedious.

J.


M. Teresa Caldwell

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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Donna Anderson, the Wicked Witch of the Net, typed the following atrocity
upon our beloved newsgroup:

> When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
> C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
> for what she is?

SIGH. I would have ignored this, but you posted several such stupid
messages all over this ng.

This looks like a job for the...

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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Donna Anderson (dand...@hom.net) wrote:
: When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
: C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
: been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
: for what she is?

even if the above is true,

what, people can't change?


LIN...@azstarnet.com

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May 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/27/96
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To all of you friggin perverted sex fiends who think that Mulder was
MASTURBATING during the end of Jose Chung's From Outer Space, you are all
wrong! You people just wish there was some sexual content in this show!
Well GO WATCH MELROSE PLACE or rent PAMELA ANDERSON videos (who by the
way is way friggin more of a horny slut bimbo then Gillian Anderson could
ever dream of being!!!!!!!!!!!!)Mulder's hand was totally visible and was
ABOVE the covers by far!!!! Go get some glasses and stop making things
out of nothing you horny people! Plus get a hearing aid! Mulder was
NOT breathing any harder then he usually is! So go solve the mystery of
the Horny Beast on some other show like RED SHOE DIARIES! ( Which
sucks!) WRITE BACK RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR
OPINION!!!!!!

Michael Aulfrey

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Donna Anderson <dand...@hom.net> writes:

>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>for what she is?

Pardon my french, but what the fuck is this woman's problem? She busts
onto this newsgroup putting the most stupid shit up about GA when she has
no knowledge of the facts herself.

I only hope to God she's no relation to Gillian Anderson. If she is,
Donna is obviously the black sheep of the family.
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Terry Zainini

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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In article <4od588$g...@agate.berkeley.edu>, rma...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Mark Rajesh Das) says:
>
>Donna Anderson (dand...@hom.net) wrote:
>: When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>: C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>: been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>: for what she is?
>
>even if the above is true,
>
>what, people can't change?

Sure she can change! Traci Lords changed.
Gillian doesn't have any acting talent, but big lips.
So this is how Gillian got her xfiles role!
The suckers aren't going to like it when they find this one out.


Chad Kirk

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Donna Anderson wrote:
>
> the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
> for what she is?

What was the name of these pornos? I would like to know.

I don't think GA is a slut. Anyone? Anyone? Buler?

Ha

zippy

Callen Hall

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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"M. Teresa Caldwell" <nightc...@loop.com> wrote:
>Donna Anderson, the Wicked Witch of the Net, typed the following atrocity
>upon our beloved newsgroup:
>
>> When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>> C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always

>> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>> for what she is?
>
>SIGH. I would have ignored this, but you posted several such stupid
>messages all over this ng.
>
>This looks like a job for the...
>
>CASHP Form Flame Version 1.0
>Created by Moonhawk
>(modeled after several other such templates)
>

>Thank you and have a bad day.


>End flame.
>
>Teresa
>CASHP #1-96 and proud!

Thank you, Teresa! I posted earlier that "Donna Anderson" has been
posting dreck all over the place and not just in the X-F ng, but I'm glad
someone else recognizes "her" work and formulates the proper response.

C.


Michael Bothe

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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In article <31A8D4...@hom.net>, Donna Anderson <dand...@hom.net> wrote:

> When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
> C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
> for what she is?

Slut - woman with the morals of a man.

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Chris F.

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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On May 27, 1996 15:51:13 in article <Mulder's no masturbater>,

'LIN...@AZSTARNET.COM' wrote:


>WRITE BACK RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR
>OPINION!!!!!!

I think someone ran out of prozac.
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Grondon

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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what would it really matter if she was a "slut" that does not change the
fact that I and most other philes greatly enjoy her portrayal of scully
and her PERSONAL life really does not matter or change anything about why
we like the show...in other words GET a LIFE.
josh(tired of lurking)

Mark Rajesh Das

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Terry Zainini (zan...@Carrier.ca) wrote:
: In article <4od588$g...@agate.berkeley.edu>, rma...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Mark Rajesh Das) says:
: >
: >even if the above is true,

: >
: >what, people can't change?

: Sure she can change! Traci Lords changed.

your point?
: Gillian doesn't have any acting talent, but big lips.
If you ask this group, most would say she has acting talent AND big lips.


: So this is how Gillian got her xfiles role!

Then why didn't Jimmy Walker or Mick Jagger take the role?
: The suckers aren't going to like it when they find this one out.
What suckers and find what out?

If you're going to comment of Mrs. Anderson, please be more clear.

LHC007

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Donna Anderson wrote:
>
> the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
> for what she is?

What was the name of these pornos? I would like to know.

I don't think GA is a slut. Anyone? Anyone? Buler?

Ha

zippy


I agree zippy, Come on Donna...If you are so knowledgeable, Name the
Films..
thats all you have to do.


Mary Mitchell

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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This Donna Anderson person probably doesn't know what she's talking about!!

(Probably jealous of GA)
LM

Mary Mitchell

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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I don't think that Mulder's "that in touch with himself"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
hehehehheheh

Jennifer Zarrelli

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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LIN...@AZSTARNET.COM wrote:
>To all of you friggin perverted sex fiends who think that Mulder was
>MASTURBATING during the end of Jose Chung's From Outer Space, you are all
>wrong!
>Mulder's hand was totally visible and was
>ABOVE the covers by far!!!! Go get some glasses and stop making things
>out of nothing you horny people! Plus get a hearing aid! Mulder was
>NOT breathing any harder then he usually is! WRITE BACK RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR
>OPINION!!!!!!

Whoa, take a deep breath. This is not a life-threatening situation here. Count slowly to ten and watch your tape again. Whatever the=
ir intentions, it does indeed "seem" as though Mulder "might" be masturbating, and if you listen to the voice-over provided by "Jose=
Chung" himself, I believe we are to infer Mulder may indeed be choking the chicken. One of his hands was above the covers, with the=
remote. The other, as I recall, is nowhere to be seen. But who really cares, anyway? What are you, part of the religious right?

Clint Bradford

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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>>...why won't you x-philes accept her for what she is?

We do. She's an excellent actress. Why don't -you- accept that?


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cshe...@facstaff.wisc.edu

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Who ever wrote the original message "Just a slut" was probably a woman,
who was jealous.

cshe...@facstaff.wisc.edu

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Well, I don't know. Ever since people on here started talking about that
episode, I wish I had taped it. I find it had to believe that they
would allow something so obvious on network tv, so I believe that it is
just the product of an overactive, undersexed imagination.

LIN...@azstarnet.com

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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I must apologize for a note that a friend and I posted. You must realize
that we wrote this post late at night and we were both incredibly hyper.
I know, I know. That's no excuse. We both realize now that we have
offended some people and in the process made a fool out of ourselves. I
would now like to tell you our true feelings about that scene in the
episode "Jose Chung's: From Outer Space." And just so you know, I am
totally calm and in a right frame of mind.

As I recall, Mulders right arm is in view, but not necessarily his hand.
I still totally feel that he was breathing as any normal person would in
a normal situation. But still it is possible, I suppose and will admit,
that he was masturbating. However, as has been previously posted in this
newgroup, some believe that that last scene of Mulder is just showing
what Jose Chung thinks Mulder does to get pleasure out of life.

As much as I want to believe that Mulder was not masturbating while
watching a video of bigfoot, I have opened myself up to other
possibilities and have accepted the fact that it is possible. Please
accept our apology for we are truly sorry if we offended anyone.

Stef Davies

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Please help a nonplussed Brit! I've just watched 'Wet-Wired' (what a
blinder! ) and one comment of Mulder's about 'the naked lady in the
ice-cube'- something to do with cinema or television- is
incomprehensible to me :-(

What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?

Stef

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Spencer Bezak

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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The "lady-in-the-ice-cube" refers to a semi-famous magazine ad many years
ago. It is often cited when talking about subliminal advertising. The ad
pictured a glass with ice cubes in it. If you looked at the ice cubes just
right, you would see a sexually explicit picture of a woman. It's based on
the idea that your subconcious mind sees everything, but doesn't
necessarily process it the way your concious mind does. Therefore, as an
example, your concious mind sees a glass of liquid with ice cubes, and you
sub-concious "sees" the naked woman. Therefore, the theory is that some
people will get a "good" feeling when they see the product and purchase it,
and not be concious of ever seeing the naked woman in the ice cubes.
This is a very bare bones description, and it's been awhile since I
read anything on subliminals, but hopefully it gives you an idea about what
Mulder was talking about.
Slater


Bernardine

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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In article <09960429191011.O...@compuserve.com>,
10057...@compuserve.com (Stef Davies) wrote:

> Please help a nonplussed Brit! I've just watched 'Wet-Wired' (what a
> blinder! ) and one comment of Mulder's about 'the naked lady in the
> ice-cube'- something to do with cinema or television- is
> incomprehensible to me :-(
>
> What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?
>

Its an old ad campaign of a glass of (some beverage)
which was supposed to create a kind of "thirst" in unsuspecting
viewers because there was a subliminal image of a naked
woman hidden among the ice cubes.

Personally, I've still never seen it (that is, the subliminal
image).

Fortunately subliminal advertising is no longer necessary,
now that advertisers can use"sex to sell " with unchecked
enthusiasm.
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Amber Stephens

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I don't care what she used to be I just like the show.
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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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Donna Anderson (dand...@hom.net) wrote:
: When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
: C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
: been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
: for what she is?

We do. You don't. Up yours. Nuff said.

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In article <09960429191011.O...@compuserve.com> Stef Davies,

10057...@compuserve.com writes:
>What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?

It's part of subliminal advertising lore, that some ads with close-ups of
iced drinks have patterns or messages in the light and shadowed areas of
the ice cubes. I don't know about the naked lady one in particular, but
I've seen some where each ice cube had a pattern, and together they
spelled out "sex". I would guess that the "naked lady" would be a
similar pattern, similar to the naked man who's supposedly to be found in
the camel logo on Camel cigarettes.

LISA LOISELLE

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <pettigrw-2...@ts15-01.hfx.istar.ca>,

Bernardine <pett...@fox.nstn.ca> wrote:
>In article <09960429191011.O...@compuserve.com>,
>10057...@compuserve.com (Stef Davies) wrote:
>
>> Please help a nonplussed Brit! I've just watched 'Wet-Wired' (what a
>> blinder! ) and one comment of Mulder's about 'the naked lady in the
>> ice-cube'- something to do with cinema or television- is
>> incomprehensible to me :-(
>>
>> What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?
>>
>Its an old ad campaign of a glass of (some beverage)
>which was supposed to create a kind of "thirst" in unsuspecting
>viewers because there was a subliminal image of a naked
>woman hidden among the ice cubes.
>
>Personally, I've still never seen it (that is, the subliminal
>image).
>
>Fortunately subliminal advertising is no longer necessary,
>now that advertisers can use"sex to sell " with unchecked
>enthusiasm.
>______________________________________________
>To thine own self be true, and it must follow,
>as the night the day, thou canst not then be false
>to any man. - Shakespeare (Hamlet)


Apparently the ice cube images are found on the giant Pepsi can on Pepsi
vending machines.

Lisa
...who tried to find them but couldn't

Mike Quigley

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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mike...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael Aulfrey) wrote:

>Donna Anderson <dand...@hom.net> writes:
>
>>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>>for what she is?
>

>Pardon my french, but what the fuck is this woman's problem? She busts
>onto this newsgroup putting the most stupid shit up about GA when she has
>no knowledge of the facts herself.

How do you know this "Donna" is a woman? Have you ever met her?

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <09960429191011.O...@compuserve.com>, 10057...@compuserve.com (Stef Davies) writes:
> Please help a nonplussed Brit! I've just watched 'Wet-Wired' (what a
> blinder! ) and one comment of Mulder's about 'the naked lady in the
> ice-cube'- something to do with cinema or television- is
> incomprehensible to me :-(
>
> What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?
>
> Stef

I first saw this term in a book about subliminal suggestion
in advertising. The author discussed ways in which companies
use sex to sell products, in extremely subtle ways. The typical
consumer doesn't necessarily notice these "sexual cues" but their
subconscious does.

It is the author's theory that our subconscious responds to these
hidden sexual signs and causes our conscious self to purchase the
product. One of his primary examples is a liquor ad which shows
a drink with ice cubes. In one of the ice cubes he found a shadow
that looked alot like a naked woman (at least in his opinion).
It seems that his phrase "naked lady in the ice cube" caught on.

I think that the book was called "Subliminal Suggestions in
Advertising".

Heather
University of Pittsburgh


Greg Sams

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28 May 1996 22:28:59 -0400l...@aol.com (LHC007) wrote:


=>Donna Anderson wrote:
=>>
=>> the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
=>> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
=>> for what she is?

=>What was the name of these pornos? I would like to know.

=>I don't think GA is a slut. Anyone? Anyone? Buler?

=>Ha

=>zippy


=> I agree zippy, Come on Donna...If you are so knowledgeable, Name the
=>Films..
=> thats all you have to do.

=>If GA was a porno star someone would be cashing in on the movies and "stills",
=>come on boys, how much would you pay?


Bruce Anthony

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In article <4ok8uu$l...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>, <gas...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
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> From: gas...@worldnet.att.net (Greg Sams)
> Newsgroups: alt.tv.x-files
> Subject: Re: Just a slut
> Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 15:50:33 GMT
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GA stated in a radio interview I heard a month or two ago that she had not
done any pornos. End of discussion?


Kristen Leigh Homyk

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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On 29 May 1996, Stef Davies wrote:

> Please help a nonplussed Brit! I've just watched 'Wet-Wired' (what a
> blinder! ) and one comment of Mulder's about 'the naked lady in the
> ice-cube'- something to do with cinema or television- is
> incomprehensible to me :-(
>
> What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?

I wish I could remember the title of the book that was written, perhaps
mid-70's, that detailed the use of subliminal messages/images in
advertising. It included the image Mulder refers to. Supposedly, many
things on television are sold with "hidden pictures" that lead the mind
to think of sex or other pleasant things and subconsciously associate
those pleasant things with the product. At any rate, the book, which was
mostly a paranoid attempt to prove that television is out to get us,
caused quite a stir, hence the semi-pop reference to the "naked lady in
the ice cube" (used to sell soft drinks) and how the telelvision signals
in Wet Wired might also manipulate an audience.

--KRIS


Suzanne R. Stone

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hp...@vms.cis.pitt.edu wrote:
>> What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?

>I think that the book was called "Subliminal Suggestions in


>Advertising".
>Heather
>University of Pittsburgh

There might be more than 1 book on the subject, but the 1 that was
wildly popular in the 60s (or whenever it came out) was "The Hidden
Persuaders," by Vance Packard. That's the 1 that made phrases like
"lady-in-the-ice-cube" cliches. I've got a copy - these days
advertising is such a hard-sell game that the book seems rather
quaint. -S-


munc...@netcom.com

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In article <mudcat-2805...@bothe.netuser.com>,
Michael Bothe <mud...@netuser.com> wrote:

>
>Slut - woman with the morals of a man.
>
>--
>Michael Bothe
>mud...@netuser.com


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Can I steal this? Hee hee! I love it.

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Rob Chalmers

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On Thu, 30 May 1996 16:36:22 -0500, Kristen Leigh Homyk
<if...@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:

>On 29 May 1996, Stef Davies wrote:
>
>> Please help a nonplussed Brit! I've just watched 'Wet-Wired' (what a
>> blinder! ) and one comment of Mulder's about 'the naked lady in the
>> ice-cube'- something to do with cinema or television- is
>> incomprehensible to me :-(
>>

>> What exactly does 'the naked lady in the ice-cube' refer to ?
>

>I wish I could remember the title of the book that was written, perhaps
>mid-70's, that detailed the use of subliminal messages/images in
>advertising. It included the image Mulder refers to. Supposedly, many
>things on television are sold with "hidden pictures" that lead the mind
>to think of sex or other pleasant things and subconsciously associate
>those pleasant things with the product. At any rate, the book, which was
>mostly a paranoid attempt to prove that television is out to get us,
>caused quite a stir, hence the semi-pop reference to the "naked lady in
>the ice cube" (used to sell soft drinks) and how the telelvision signals
>in Wet Wired might also manipulate an audience.

This is the one that I remember reading back in the 70's:

Author(s): Key, Wilson Bryan, 1925-
Title(s): Subliminal seduction : ad media's manipulation of a not so
innocent America / Wilson Bryan Key.
Place: New York, N.Y. : New American Library, [1981?] xviii, 220 p.,
[16] p. of plates : ill. (some col.); 18 cm. "A Signet book."

Reprinted with index c1981. Originally published: New York, N.Y. : New
American Library, 1974.

Includes index. Bibliography: p. 201-205.

Rob

Jack Echs

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Please don't insult those of us on caffeine. More than likely its time for
she...it...them to switch to a life.........

In article <DSV4600-2805...@orlfl2-12.gate.net>, DSV...@Gate.net
says...

Please don't insult those of us on Prozac. More than likely its time for
her to switch to decaf........

-Jen


Jack Echs

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Look Troll...95 percent of all men masturbate, the other 5 percent lie. Mulder
(the character) masturbates as much as the next guy. In fact, maybe that's your
problem...you need some action down south. Just let your fingers do the
walking, it will do wonders for your disposition not to mention your life.
Which you obviously need one...

In article <31AA31...@AZSTARNET.COM>, LIN...@AZSTARNET.COM says...

>To all of you friggin perverted sex fiends who think that Mulder was
>MASTURBATING during the end of Jose Chung's From Outer Space, you are all

>wrong! You people just wish there was some sexual content in this show!
> Well GO WATCH MELROSE PLACE or rent PAMELA ANDERSON videos (who by the
>way is way friggin more of a horny slut bimbo then Gillian Anderson could
>ever dream of being!!!!!!!!!!!!)Mulder's hand was totally visible and was

>ABOVE the covers by far!!!! Go get some glasses and stop making things
>out of nothing you horny people! Plus get a hearing aid! Mulder was

>NOT breathing any harder then he usually is! So go solve the mystery of
>the Horny Beast on some other show like RED SHOE DIARIES! ( Which
>sucks!) WRITE BACK RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR
>OPINION!!!!!!


stephen

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Please don't insult those with no life. More than likely
it's time for her to switch her fabric softener.......

Stephen

Konstantinos Skartsiounis

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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So what if she did pornos? What is wrong with that? I'm quite proud of the
fact that back where I come from such things as nudity, "obscenity" and
sexual orientation are non-issues. You guys must all be Buchanan groupies
or something. I'll never cease to be amazed by how medieval Americans can be.

nel...@vax1.mankato.msus.edu

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I for one was thrilled to hear the reference in Wet Wired. I had an
eccentric Trig teacher in high school who would occasionally get off
the subject (to our great relief) and he actually spent several days
showing us all this evidence of subliminal messages: everything from
nudes put into ice cubes, to 'sex' spelled out on ritz crackers. It
was amazing because the shimmery effect of ice lets the mind find just
about anything--a little bit like cloud watching. It was cool to
hear this stuff discussed--my teacher would love the Lone Gunmen.

Julie


Rebecca Eschliman

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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<< This is a very bare bones description, >>

But an very cogent one. I believe it was Vance Packard who wrote several
books on the subject of subliminal advertising a number of years ago.

- rje -


Jack Echs

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ROFL ... awd amn pee sea rap

In article <31AF67...@serv01.net-link.net>, step...@serv01.net-link.net
says...

Please don't insult those with no life. More than likely

Jboren

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Donna Anderson <dand...@hom.net> wrote:

>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.

>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always

>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her

>for what she is?

Diane Purkiss

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In article <NEWTNews.8334809...@visi.com>, Bruce Anthony
<bant...@holidayco.com> writes

>>
>> =>Donna Anderson wrote:
>> =>>
>> =>> the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>> =>> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>> =>> for what she is?
Ladies and gentlemen of the internet, I would like to make you aware
that Donna Anderson is the pseudonym of a well-known troll who has been
buzzing other newsgroups with 'outrageous' remarks like this in the hope
of getting an emotional response. ('She' is really a sixteen-year-old
boy called Michael.) Unless you enjoy hearing your favourite shows
trashed, a kill file is a useful remedy.

Michael, knock it off. It's no fun. Why don't you go and hang round
the off-license like any normal teenager?

Frece

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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quoting Donna Anderson (dand...@hom.net)

> When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.

> C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always


> been a porno star before this gig;

Yeah! And the Pope was the co-star on those films...
What's your problem?
Has your husband fallen in love with GA and you're just
jealous??

There are really strange people on this planet....

- Jan

------------------------------------------------------------
The truth is out there......and I hope it will stay there.

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The Grim Reaper

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In article <4oqjrn$7...@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, jbo...@ix.netcom.com says...

>
>Donna Anderson <dand...@hom.net> wrote:
>
>>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>>for what she is?
>
>

When will you wake up from this dream you are forcing us all to listen to...

--
Grim.
"I don't think you understand, I am The Grim Reaper."


z...@hookup.net

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>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>for what she is?

Oh, I forgot to include this in my previous post.
Here goes: "Donna Get A Fucking Life"
Thank You

Rae


z...@hookup.net

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>When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
>C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>for what she is?

Stop polluting this ng with your spewage!!
Maybe you should think about what you're gonna say before you say it
or would that kill the 2 remaining brain cells you have. Damn...a
cryin' shame at that too!!

Rae


Sheri

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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In article <31AAF0...@eastky.com>, Chad says...

>
>Donna Anderson wrote:
>>
>> the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
>> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
>> for what she is?
>

Ack! That's Traci Lords you're talking about!

Chris F.

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On May 30, 1996 00:59:51 in article <Re: Lady in the ice cube..????>, 'Nina

<Ni...@mail.utexas.edu>' wrote:


>
>It's part of subliminal advertising lore, that some ads with close-ups of
>iced drinks have patterns or messages in the light and shadowed areas of
>the ice cubes. I don't know about the naked lady one in particular, but
>I've seen some where each ice cube had a pattern, and together they
>spelled out "sex". I would guess that the "naked lady" would be a
>similar pattern, similar to the naked man who's supposedly to be found in
>the camel logo on Camel cigarettes.

or the orgy in the fried clams, or "sex" on the 5-dollar bill, or the
female genitals on cans of Mott's apple juice, or the male genitals on cans
of Pepsi...

I read a book from the 70's on this stuff a few years ago. Allegedly,
these images are in just about every major advertisement you can think of.
I haven't examined any ads too closely since reading the book, but the
examples in the book were semi-convincing. I say "semi" because with some
of the examples, I really had to squint to see what they meant.

--
Christopher Flaherty
Cop: I notice the table's set for four.
Groucho: That's nothing. My alarm clock is set for eight. You haven't
proved a thing.
-- "A Night At The Opera," 1935
http://www.users.nyc.pipeline.com/~chrisf/index.html


MAX WEAVIL

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Dear Clint,
I agree...1000% support for GA!


Tracy L. Millis

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I read a different book on the subject called "Media Sexploitation", I
believe it was written by the same author as a follow up to "Subliminal
Seduction". I wonder if the guy is working on yet another book detailing
all of the subliminal sexual messages in recent Disney movies.

Iris Davis

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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In article <4ok8uu$l...@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
gas...@worldnet.att.net (Greg Sams) wrote:


> => I agree zippy, Come on Donna...If you are so knowledgeable, Name the
> =>Films..
> => thats all you have to do.


Omigosh--first this kid comes on and trolls all over alt.tv.er and now the
X-files! FYI--his real name is Michael and he uses his mother's account
(doing her no favors, I'm sure). Feel free to flame him.

id


..

Iris Davis

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In article <31ad2c2...@news.mindlink.net>, Mr_Gi...@mindlink.net
(Mike Quigley) wrote:

> >Pardon my french, but what the fuck is this woman's problem? She busts
> >onto this newsgroup putting the most stupid shit up about GA when she has
> >no knowledge of the facts herself.
>
> How do you know this "Donna" is a woman? Have you ever met her?
-----------------

To all you wondering who "Donna" is--see my earlier post on this thread or
read the following: "Donna" is a 16 year old kid named Michael using his
mother's account. He's been the bane of the ER ng for quite some time
now. Since things have quieted down over there I guess he got bored and
started trolling over here.

id

..

Donna Anderson

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As usual, a x-files lunatic backs up his flame with no good supporting
statements but just insults to the other person. michael

Zhane

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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In article <31B475...@hom.net>, dand...@hom.net says...

>
>As usual, a x-files lunatic backs up his flame with no good supporting
>statements but just insults to the other person. michael

Blow.

Vladimir Soriano

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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Look.... "I" collect porn videos.... what do you think I do when "I"
watch them? :)

Ong Kay Siang, James

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
to Terry,Zanini

I am a follower of X-files and I am upset over your accusations that
Gillian is an ex-porn star. Do you have any prove to your statement or is
it that you do not like G.A.Please comment and send an e-mail to me.


Ong Kay Siang, James

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to Terry,Zanini

Ong Kay Siang, James

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
to Terry,Zanini

Ong Kay Siang, James

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to Terry,Zainini

Ong Kay Siang, James

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pr...@azstarnet.com

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In article <000031e2...@msn.com>, Agent_...@msn.com (Vladimir
Soriano) wrote:

> Look.... "I" collect porn videos.... what do you think I do when "I"
> watch them? :)

I don't really want to think about that!!! But to clarify, in the
incident in question, Mulder was watching a tape of Big Foot. What do
"you" do when you watch "your" Big Foot tapes??? **Pretz


------The truth *may* be out there, but don't
believe everything you read.------

Jago

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Agent_...@msn.com (Vladimir Soriano) wrote:

>Look.... "I" collect porn videos.... what do you think I do when "I"
>watch them? :)

You have a bit of a problem laddie!!! We don't want to know
what you do in your own home but broadcasting it on a
USENET newsgroup thats not on! ! !

*sigh* now if someone would start an
alt.tv.x-files.scully.fantsies news group then that sort
of thing would be acceptable along with hancuffs and
chocolate sauce.........oh dear gotta go before I get into
trouble!

Nigel,

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Uh, well...................................

Matthew Williams

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or how about:-

alt.x-files.i.jerk.off.and.i.am.a.sad.wanker

Stacey Thorp

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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Vladimir Soriano wrote:
>
> Look.... "I" collect porn videos.... what do you think I do when "I"
> watch them? :)

Suddenly the conversation in this newsgroup takes an ugly turn...
--
Stacey
That's not yogurt! http://www.delta.edu/~slthorp

Steve Russell

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Jun 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/9/96
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From: "Ong Kay Siang, James" <oks...@po.pacific.net.sg>writes:

I am a follower of X-files and I am upset over your accusations that
Gillian is an ex-porn star. Do you have any prove to your statement or is
it that you do not like G.A.Please comment and send an e-mail to me.

I read on several web pages that she did do *one* porn film. For me,
that doesn't condem her as an actress or as a human being.

Steve

Stacey Thorp

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Jun 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/9/96
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Kill this thread!

--
Stacey
That's not yogurt! http://www.delta.edu/~slthorp

>Soriano) wrote:
>
>> Look.... "I" collect porn videos.... what do you think I do when "I"
>> watch them? :)
>

Edward J. Kirby

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Jun 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/9/96
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On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, Stacey Thorp wrote:

> Vladimir Soriano wrote:
> >
> > Look.... "I" collect porn videos.... what do you think I do when "I"
> > watch them? :)
>

> Suddenly the conversation in this newsgroup takes an ugly turn...

> --
> Stacey
> That's not yogurt! http://www.delta.edu/~slthorp
>

If we are given to believe that Mulder is a man and not an alien, and if
he is like most men, and if we consider that his character
seems to have no girlfriend because he is "married" to his work, I would
say it would neither be an exagerration nor shocking in any way to assume
that his character jerks off. The adult videos also seem to indicate
this and his solitary sex-life seems to be written into the script. But
there's room for interpretation, maybe he doesn't. Or his character
doesn't. Actually, this is not something to which I've given a lot of
thought but I do know that "masturbator" has no "e" in its correct
spelling.--RK @ekirby's.

Ken Marsh

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Jun 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/10/96
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In article <SRUSSELL.9...@nova.umuc.edu>,

I saw on a web page some take-outs from a love scene in an "R" rated
film... I guess it depends on your definition of "porn", but the
screen shots didn't look any different from any other R rated movie.

Ken.
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Jeff Jonsson

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Jun 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/11/96
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Kill Stacey Thorp!

Stacey Thorp wrote:
>
> Kill this thread!


> --
> Stacey
> That's not yogurt! http://www.delta.edu/~slthorp

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Christine Santos

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Jun 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/12/96
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Archaeo wrote:
>
> Stacey Thorp,
>
> Your "kill this thread!" posts are getting a bit tedious. Try skipping
> the ones you don't like instead of adding nothing to a discussion.
>
> Archaeo


I, too, am getting sick of this "Kill this thread" thing of hers. It's
not like anyone is being forced to read every single article in this
newsgroup.

Christine

Lover of Delphi -I live on Philadelphia

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Jun 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/17/96
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In "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose" (one of my favorite episodes) Clyde tells
Mulder that auto-erotic strangulation is the least dignified form of death he
can think of. The suggestion is that Mulder would kill himself in this way.
While amusing, I have to wonder how reliable Clyde will prove to be, and how
this will be shown on tv (X-Files is after all just a tv show).

LoD

Nadine Bruce

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Jun 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/19/96
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Christine Santos <hacs...@huey.csun.edu> wrote:

>Christine

Personally, I have always been more interested in Clyde's statement to
Scully, in effect that she is never going to die. Any suggestions as
to what he meant by that?

Nadine


Susen Johnson

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Jun 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/19/96
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Nadine Bruce (nbr...@express.ca) wrote:
: Personally, I have always been more interested in Clyde's statement to

: Scully, in effect that she is never going to die. Any suggestions as
: to what he meant by that?

Hey, that's cool--I never noticed that part.
But it does fit in nicely with my suspicion that Scully is the "one"
Mulder is not supposed to trust, being some version of an alien and/or
his dead sister.
That Clyde...the stories he could tell...
--Sue

go...@tiac.net

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Jun 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/21/96
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I think she's gonna end up cryogenic suspension.

Mark Rajesh Das

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Jun 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/22/96
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go...@tiac.net wrote:
: I think she's gonna end up cryogenic suspension.


: su...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Susen Johnson) wrote:

: >Nadine Bruce (nbr...@express.ca) wrote:
: >: Personally, I have always been more interested in Clyde's statement to
: >: Scully, in effect that she is never going to die. Any suggestions as
: >: to what he meant by that?

Well, he told Mulder how Mulder would die, then Scully stopped it.
Since you can only die once ( spare me the near death crap) and Mulder's
death was nixed, he's immortal too.

Perhaps Clyde could only prognosticate non-natural death.

Elan Goldmann

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Jun 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/22/96
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In <4qfft1$7...@agate.berkeley.edu> rma...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Mark

He didn't say that Mulder would be killed by the bellhop. I think the
converation about that went something like this:
CB: He draws the knife.....and.....
FM: And WHAT?
CB: Nothing. The thoughts of a madman.

But later on, in the car, there's something like this:
CB: Autoerotic asphyxiation.
FM: huh?
CB: I can think of worse ways to die, but none more undignified.
FM: Why are you telling me this?

I think the implication was that Mulder is going to die by autoerotic
asphyxiation. Or, if not, and Clyde was just talking to himself about
it for no reason, then that still doesn't mean that Mulder is immortal.
Just because CB didn't foretell a death doesn't mean it won't happen,
and after all, Mulder didn't ask.

(snip)

--The Palindrome, AvivA
"A social life is greatly overrated." -EZ


Mark Rajesh Das

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Jun 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/23/96
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Elan Goldmann (ezf...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: > Well, he told Mulder how Mulder would die, then Scully stopped it.

: >Since you can only die once ( spare me the near death crap) and
: Mulder's
: >death was nixed, he's immortal too.

: He didn't say that Mulder would be killed by the bellhop. I think the
: converation about that went something like this:

yeah, but wasn't Mulder's neck bleeding?
But, that inandofitself doesn't say much. However, Clyde has only
predicted death, not just any arbitrary future. Perhaps he can only
predict times when a potential death is gonna happen. That doesn't
go with his "Big Bopper" story, where he tells the pair that his gift
for predicting death came from the Bopper/Valens/other guy whose name escapes
me. He has only been able to predict death. However, Mulder didn't die.
It's sort of a loophole, I figure, like any story which talks about going
back in time.

: But later on, in the car, there's something like this:

: CB: Autoerotic asphyxiation.
: FM: huh?
: CB: I can think of worse ways to die, but none more undignified.

Oh, I can think of more undignified ways.
: FM: Why are you telling me this?
small talk?
: I think the implication was that Mulder is going to die by autoerotic


: asphyxiation. Or, if not, and Clyde was just talking to himself about

perhaps, but I don't agree.
: it for no reason, then that still doesn't mean that Mulder is immortal.


: Just because CB didn't foretell a death doesn't mean it won't happen,
: and after all, Mulder didn't ask.

I'm not sure about the instruction manual, but it doesn't seem you have
to ask. The old lady didn't, the guy didn't, the fortune tellers didn't.
Also, I never said that I thunk Mulder was immortal, just that the idea
that Scully is immortal just because he said "she doesn't" doesn't
necesarily follow.

the original question was whether Scully was ever going to die, and what
Clyde meant. Personally, I think he was just trying to get some.


: (snip)

dpr...@compunet.net

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Elan Goldmann wrote:
> I think the implication was that Mulder is going to die by autoerotic
> asphyxiation. Or, if not, and Clyde was just talking to himself about
> it for no reason, then that still doesn't mean that Mulder is immortal.
> Just because CB didn't foretell a death doesn't mean it won't happen,
> and after all, Mulder didn't ask.


It was my interpretation that CB had killed HIMSELF by autoerotic
asphyxiation. Just think about the situation. Scully and Mulder found him in
his underwear with a plastic bag over his head and a belt(?) around his neck. I
think that could qualify as a strange way to die. Certainly it was close to AA.

It has been some months since I saw this episode, so if my memory has failed me,
I apologize for wasting everyone's time.

...DPRoop

Peggy Byers

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rma...@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Mark Rajesh Das) wrote:


> That doesn't
>go with his "Big Bopper" story, where he tells the pair that his gift
>for predicting death came from the Bopper/Valens/other guy whose name escapes
>me.

Sidebar: The guy on the other side of that coin flip with the Big
Bopper was Waylon Jennings.

peggie
COG special agent
(whose husband just knows stuff)


B. J. Richards

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Jun 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/23/96
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Oh, I think he just didn't want to tell her, so decided to fuck with her
head. :-)

Ms. B.J. Richards
"Giant Ants: Not Now, Not Ever" - Bill Nye the Science Guy

Allan Tooley

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go...@tiac.net wrote:
> : I think she's gonna end up cryogenic suspension.
>
> : su...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Susen Johnson) wrote:
>
> : >Nadine Bruce (nbr...@express.ca) wrote:
> : >: Personally, I have always been more interested in Clyde's statement to
> : >: Scully, in effect that she is never going to die. Any suggestions as
> : >: to what he meant by that?
>

Actually, it probably has something to do with the chip she found in her neck. i think when
she was kidnapped the aliens did something to her so that she won't ever die.

Clyde knows this... Or he was just trying to seduce her.

Jodie Tooley
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Philebrarian

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Jun 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/23/96
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On Sun, 23 Jun 1996 dpr...@compunet.net wrote:
<someone elses comments snipped>

> It was my interpretation that CB had killed HIMSELF by autoerotic
> asphyxiation. Just think about the situation. Scully and Mulder found him in
> his underwear with a plastic bag over his head and a belt(?) around his neck. I
> think that could qualify as a strange way to die. Certainly it was close to AA.

No-- CB didn't kill himself by autoerotic asphyxiation... he took some
pills and went to sleep with the bag over his head... Watch it again...
when Scully sits down on the bed next to him and takes his hand in hers
an empty pill bottle rolls out of it and onto the body (or to the floor
maybe)

So his vision is fulfilled-- they are 'in bed together' with her looking
down on him with with pitty as tears (condensation from his breathing into
the plastic bag while he was asleep before dying) flow down his face.

(what I want to know is how he died so quickly from the OD/suffocation
combination... he had only been missing from the hotel for a few minutes
when they took off after him and I'm sure they went straight to his
apartment...so how did the pills have enough time to put him to sleep and
then suffocate?)

makes me go 'hmmmmm'

--philebrarian

DONALD L. AYRTON

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In <96175.18...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> B. writes:

> Oh, I think he just didn't want to tell her, so decided to fuck with her
> head. :-)


?!? How do you come to a conclusion like _that_ in a character that is nearly
pathologically compelled to tell the truth?


Ryan Dobson

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Jun 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/24/96
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In article <4qfft1$7...@agate.berkeley.edu>, rma...@uclink2.berkeley.edu
(Mark Rajesh Das) wrote:

> Well, he told Mulder how Mulder would die, then Scully stopped it.
> Since you can only die once ( spare me the near death crap) and Mulder's
> death was nixed, he's immortal too.

Clyde didn't predict how Mulder would die; that was the killer who sent
him a letter, remember?
It was alluded to that Mulder would die of auto-erotic asphixiation. But
maybe Clyde was refering to his own death.

Chris Byler

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Mark Rajesh Das (rma...@uclink2.berkeley.edu) wrote:
> go...@tiac.net wrote:
> : I think she's gonna end up cryogenic suspension.


> : su...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Susen Johnson) wrote:

> : >Nadine Bruce (nbr...@express.ca) wrote:
> : >: Personally, I have always been more interested in Clyde's statement to
> : >: Scully, in effect that she is never going to die. Any suggestions as
> : >: to what he meant by that?

> Well, he told Mulder how Mulder would die, then Scully stopped it.


> Since you can only die once ( spare me the near death crap) and Mulder's
> death was nixed, he's immortal too.

> Perhaps Clyde could only prognosticate non-natural death.
>

Nope - he predicted that the guy who made the ugly frog thing would die
of prostate cancer. That's a natural death.

Chris

Chris Byler

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DONALD L. AYRTON (DAY...@eagle.wesleyan.edu) wrote:
> In <96175.18...@wvnvm.wvnet.edu> B. writes:

> > Oh, I think he just didn't want to tell her, so decided to fuck with her
> > head. :-)

Exactly. Just like the AEA comment to Mulder in the same ep.

> ?!? How do you come to a conclusion like _that_ in a character that is nearly
> pathologically compelled to tell the truth?

Clyde?!? What are you smoking?

(Or are you talking about something else?)

Chris


chr...@cts.com

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dpr...@compunet.net wrote:


>It was my interpretation that CB had killed HIMSELF by autoerotic
>asphyxiation. Just think about the situation. Scully and Mulder found him in
>his underwear with a plastic bag over his head and a belt(?) around his neck. I
>think that could qualify as a strange way to die. Certainly it was close to AA.
>

>It has been some months since I saw this episode, so if my memory has failed me,
>I apologize for wasting everyone's time.
>
>...DPRoop


*SNOOP MODE OFF*

I was wondering if somebody would bring that up... It seemed obvious
to me that Bruckman (essentially) committed suicide by autoerotic
asphyxiation!


Brian Grinter

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Jun 27, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/27/96
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kma...@charm.net (Ken Marsh) wrote:

>In article <SRUSSELL.9...@nova.umuc.edu>,
>Steve Russell <srus...@nova.umuc.edu> wrote:
>> From: "Ong Kay Siang, James" <oks...@po.pacific.net.sg>writes:
>>
>> I am a follower of X-files and I am upset over your accusations that
>> Gillian is an ex-porn star. Do you have any prove to your statement or is
>> it that you do not like G.A.Please comment and send an e-mail to me.
>>
>>I read on several web pages that she did do *one* porn film. For me,
>>that doesn't condem her as an actress or as a human being.
>>Steve

>I saw on a web page some take-outs from a love scene in an "R" rated
>film... I guess it depends on your definition of "porn", but the
>screen shots didn't look any different from any other R rated movie.

The movie you're talking about is called `The Turning', it was a
drama, not a porn (unless you're exceedingly prudish), rated "M" and
all you see Gillian take her top off and that's it. A lot less than
most Hollywood actress have done...


Brian Grinter
Sydney, Australia
bri...@ozonline.com.au
ph 61 2 6228970


secre...@gmail.com

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On Sunday, May 26, 1996 1:00:00 AM UTC-6, Donna Anderson wrote:
> When will all you x-files people realize that GA is just a slut.
> C'mon, the girl was doing porno pictures at age 17; she has always
> been a porno star before this gig; why won't you x-philes accept her
> for what she is?

Link please to the porno videos of GA

Jennifer Liu-Grushka

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In article <4of1nk$r...@news1.t1.usa.pipeline.com>,
chr...@nyc.pipeline.com(Chris F.) wrote:

> On May 27, 1996 15:51:13 in article <Mulder's no masturbater>,
> 'LIN...@AZSTARNET.COM' wrote:
>
>
> >WRITE BACK RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR
> >OPINION!!!!!!
>
> I think someone ran out of prozac.
> --
> Christopher Flaherty


Please don't insult those of us on Prozac. More than likely its time for
her to switch to decaf........

-Jen

--
"I didn't say he was Alex Trebek...
I said he LOOKED like Alex Trebek.

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