Shame on you people.
Sean Carroll
Tempedammit, I miss ATXF ...
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Alan
> XF's 16th anniversary 6 days ago and not a SINGLE post?
I was so caught up in the details of whether
or not to buy a premodded game console I
totally forgot.
> Tempedammit, I miss ATXF ...
Me to. But at least they helped lead the way
to quality TV.
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Alan
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16th anniversary, so shame on you! ;-)
Sean Carroll
> Well come on now, it took you "6 days" to post the fact that it was the
> 16th anniversary, so shame on you! ;-)
Yeah, well, at least I noticed when the day went by! I quietly celebrated on
my own.
Did you notice the two XF nods on 'Fringe' the other day?
Incidentally, I've been watching 'Twin Peaks' on Chiller recently, and just
the other day I got to the episodes with David Duchovny as Denise Bryson.
I'm not sure how to feel about this, but so far I can't help but notice that
... well ... he makes a damn fine-looking woman!
I'm fucking serious, too. He *does*.
WG...@webtv.net
[ sean...@hotmail.com (Sean Carroll)
[Did you notice the two XF nods on 'Fringe' the
[ other day?
I recorded it, and have not watched it yet! There is just too much to
watch on TV these days.
[Incidentally, I've been watching 'Twin Peaks'
[ on Chiller recently, and just the other day I got
[ to the episodes with David Duchovny as
[ Denise Bryson. I'm not sure how to feel about
[ this, but so far I can't help but notice that ...
[ well ... he makes a damn fine-looking woman!
[I'm fucking serious, too. He *does*.
DD looked just plain "Ugly" playing a chick, on Twin Peaks, but maybe
that was the point! David Lynch, was all about Ugly. All things that
were Ugly, were beautiful to him. ;-)
Sean Carroll
[ sean...@hotmail.com (Sean Carroll)
>[Did you notice the two XF nods on 'Fringe' the
>[ other day?
> I recorded it, and have not watched it yet! There is just too much to
> watch on TV these days.
Well, in less than 48 hours you'll have two of them to watch.
Cliff's notes: In an early scene there's a quick shot of a television, on
which we briefly see what I'm pretty sure is the shot of Mulder looking up
while standing next to the car in 'Dreamland'. Then later, there's a
reference to 'the old X designation' as the precursor of Fringe Division.
>[Incidentally, I've been watching 'Twin Peaks'
>[ on Chiller recently, and just the other day I got
>[ to the episodes with David Duchovny as
>[ Denise Bryson. I'm not sure how to feel about
>[ this, but so far I can't help but notice that ...
>[ well ... he makes a damn fine-looking woman!
>[I'm fucking serious, too. He *does*.
> DD looked just plain "Ugly" playing a chick, on Twin Peaks, but maybe
> that was the point! David Lynch, was all about Ugly. All things that
> were Ugly, were beautiful to him. ;-)
Oh, hogwash. There is so much that is truly beautiful on that show. Look at
the majestic forests and mountains of the setting. Look at all the gorgeous
young women -- M�dchen Amick, Sherilynn Fenn, Lara Flynn Boyle, Peggy
Lipton, Joan Chen, Sheryl Lee, Kimmy Robertson. Look at the mutual respect,
admiration, and camaraderie among Agent Cooper, Sheriff Truman, Deputy Hawk,
and Major Briggs. Look at the deep caring that many of the characters had
for Laura Palmer, and the various romantic subplots where love survives in
the face of adversity and difficult situations. Look at the alternately
aethereal and irreverent musical score by Angelo Badalamenti. Look at the
elegant prose-poetry of much of the dialogue, the highly artistic
juxtapositions and complex symbology of the visual mise-en-scene. Even the
dark, disturbing images -- Laura's dead face, the owls, Cooper's bizarre
visions, the violent undertones -- are beautiful in their own haunting,
get-under-your-skin kind of way. In fact, I would call 'Twin Peaks' on the
whole one of the most beautiful shows I've ever seen.
And I think you're just being prejudiced about DD. Sure, if you look
directly at his face you can pretty easily tell he's really a man. But just
squint a little -- forget about your bias, and your insecurity about your
own sexuality (hee -- take that!). He's got nice legs, great hair, and an
impressive figure. Just because you call him ugly, with "bizarrely
inappropriate quotation marks" and everything, doesn't make it so.
WG...@webtv.net
] sean...@hotmail.com (Sean Carroll)
]And I think you're just being prejudiced about
] DD. Sure, if you look directly at his face you
] can pretty easily tell he's really a man. But just
] squint a little -- forget about your bias, and
] your insecurity about your own sexuality (hee ]-- take that!). He's
got nice legs, great hair, and
] an impressive figure. Just because you call
] him ugly, with "bizarrely inappropriate
] quotation marks" and everything, doesn't
] make it so.
I would rather watch DD on "Red Shoe Diaries", "The X-Files" or
"Californication", than "Twin Peaks", any day of the week! I never said
DD was ugly, I just said he played an ugy part, on Twin Peaks. A man
dressing up as a woman, is always ugly!
Sean Carroll
> A man dressing up as a woman, is always ugly!
What a sadly narrow, kneejerk, almost bigoted view. Why not give something a
chance, and try to accept it on its own terms, instead of coming to it with
a predefined, ironclad prejudice that it's automatically 'ugly'? You don't
have to become a transvestite lover, or be sexually aroused. Can't you just
accept the possibility that there could be such a thing in the world as an
aesthetically good-looking crossdresser?
You know, it's entirely arbitrary as to which sorts of clothes have come to
be associated with women, and which with men. It's purely a social
convention; there is nothing whatsoever inherent in the nature of a dress or
skirt, or lipstick for that matter, that says it can only look good if the
person wearing it has a vagina. It's only a prejudicial block in your mind
due to cultural brainwashing.
This is the 21st century. Women can wear pants and suit jackets, and no one
calls them ugly. Why can't a man have the same freedom to wear a dress
without being dismissed as some kind of a freak?
Surely *some* of them are ugly. Possibly even *many* of them. Maybe even,
though I'm certainly not willing to go this far myself, *most* of them. But
*every single one*, without *any* exceptions? How can you possibly make such
a crude generalisation? It's like deciding, based on a few people you know
or have seen, that short-haired women or long-haired men are *always*
unattractive. It's just not true, and it's ignorant to say so.
Lynn
Hugs to you, Sean - hope all is well. Lynn Ditto