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Allen Prunty

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May 12, 2010, 10:49:03 PM5/12/10
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Any theories on the season finale next week?

Your Name

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May 13, 2010, 2:09:25 AM5/13/10
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"Allen Prunty" <alpr...@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Any theories on the season finale next week?

The season hasn't even started here in New Zealand yet, although we did see
the mini-series / pilot a while back and they said the series would be shown
later.


Allen Prunty

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May 13, 2010, 6:09:55 AM5/13/10
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There are a lot of people who think it is not that good, but I like it.
It's not the 80's v at all... if you go in thinking it will be the show
will disappoint you. If you go in with an open mind the suspense is
great.

Allen

Winston

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May 13, 2010, 11:55:26 AM5/13/10
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"Allen Prunty" <alpr...@insightbb.com> writes:
> It's not the 80's v at all... if you go in thinking it will be the show
> will disappoint you.

However, although it's being done much, much, slower, the show has been
introducing many of the main elements of the 80's V story line --
manipulation of public opinion, holding out the promise of wonderful
technological leaps, threatening to leave, going after people capable of
opposing them, etc. If the show stays on this track next season and
the story continues to progress, it could be a fine update to the 80's V.
-WBE

Your Name

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May 13, 2010, 4:55:36 PM5/13/10
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"Winston" <w...@ubeblock.psr.com.invalid> wrote in message
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An "updated V" is an oxy-moron. It either is "V" or it isn't "V" ... there
is no fuzzy grey area in bewteen, and if it isn't "V" then they should use a
different name like all the other idiotic in-name-only, barely-recognisable
"remakes" / "updates". You may as well go around calling salt "sugar" and
wondering why everyone is making horrible faces when they drink their
coffee, eat their breakfast cereal, etc. - they're both white cystal food
additives, so what if they taste completely different. :-\

Winston

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May 13, 2010, 7:21:37 PM5/13/10
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I previously posted:

>> If the show stays on this track next season and the story continues to
>> progress, it could be a fine update to the 80's V.

"Your Name" <your...@isp.com> writes:
> An "updated V" is an oxy-moron. It either is "V" or it isn't "V" ... there
> is no fuzzy grey area in bewteen,

So, you'd prefer "remake" instead of "update"? If that's your point, then
I'll agree and you can ignore the rest below. :)

From what I've seen, it's pretty much following the footsteps of "V", if
ever so slowly. Part of why it's progressing slowly is obvious -- the
original mini-series was only 6 hours long, and this series looks to be at
least two seasons of 20 1-hour episodes, for 40+ hours, so there's a great
deal of room for additional material not in the original. However, the
overall plot and themes are developing along the same lines. Sure, many
character names are different (Ana instead of Diana), the uniforms are blue
instead of red, the shuttles and the main ships look different, etc., and
obviously it's a different cast, but many (not all) of the main story
elements from the original are now in place (even if only just as of the
latest episode).
-WBE

Your Name

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May 13, 2010, 9:16:53 PM5/13/10
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In article <ydk4r7v...@UBEblock.psr.com>, w...@ubeblock.psr.com.invalid
(Winston) wrote:

> I previously posted:
> >> If the show stays on this track next season and the story continues to
> >> progress, it could be a fine update to the 80's V.
>
> "Your Name" <your...@isp.com> writes:
> > An "updated V" is an oxy-moron. It either is "V" or it isn't "V" ... there
> > is no fuzzy grey area in bewteen,
>
> So, you'd prefer "remake" instead of "update"? If that's your point, then
> I'll agree and you can ignore the rest below. :)

I'd prefer an "update" that actually fits with the original show, rather
than something that makes lots of silly changes and re-uses the same name
for what in reality is a completely different, usually barely
recognisable, in-name-only show ... which unfortuantely is exactly what
99% of the "remake" / "update" shows coming out of Hollyweird these days
are. :-(

Allen Prunty

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May 14, 2010, 12:09:17 AM5/14/10
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Hang in there... the show is great. Don't go into it thinking that it's
the "v" of the 80's... it's something new... and full of suspense and
mystery. We know theyare lizards but what else???

Your Name

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May 14, 2010, 1:18:15 AM5/14/10
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In article <dIednWtyiMtpUXHW...@insightbb.com>, Allen Prunty
<allen-...@insightbb.com> wrote:

The pilot was OK-ish ... not as bad an unrecognisable corruption as Ron
Moore's so-called "Battlestar Galactica", but still not as good as nor
fitting with the original V.

Laura Fredericks

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May 14, 2010, 5:46:41 PM5/14/10
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>So, you'd prefer "remake" instead of "update"?

It's not a remake or an update. It's a reimagining.

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Your Name

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May 14, 2010, 7:49:14 PM5/14/10
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In article <11hru59ng37ho4691...@4ax.com>, Laura Fredericks
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> On 13 May 2010 19:21:37 -0400, w...@ubeblock.psr.com.invalid (Winston)
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> >So, you'd prefer "remake" instead of "update"?
>
> It's not a remake or an update. It's a reimagining.

And those are usually the worst at being barely recognisable. If the fools
in Hollyweird want to make a new show, then they should make a NEW show
rather than butcher and existing one. All they need to do is give their
new "version" a different name ... instead of "V" they can call it "B" for
"based on V". ;-)

Allen Prunty

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May 16, 2010, 6:07:41 PM5/16/10
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So far the only thing I have seen that even resembles the old "V" is
that they are lizards... and even that is not clear since the set
designers have said that the mothership is designed as a "cobra head"
and the shuttles are a "python" head.

They are reptiles... but I am starting to think after the way Anna
showed her fangs and the dude that was John May's stepson's girlfriend's
fingers popped out as claws that they are some sort of shapeshifters as
well... or at least their bodies have been compressed and manipulated.

Allen

Your Name

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May 16, 2010, 9:14:56 PM5/16/10
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In article <010101caf544$3428c9b0$9c7a5d10$@insightbb.com>, "Allen Prunty"
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I vaguely recall reading something about the makers of the "new V" not
wanting to go down the 'lizards in masks' path of the original and there
were hints that the new aliens were genetically modified to look like
humans. :-\

Allen Prunty

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May 17, 2010, 8:35:50 AM5/17/10
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I vaguely recall reading something about the makers of the "new V" not
wanting to go down the 'lizards in masks' path of the original and there
were hints that the new aliens were genetically modified to look like
humans. :-\
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That's not much of a spoiler... it was established in the second episode
that human skin is cloned over their lizard exterior... but the skin
also seems to have nerves and use their blood.

I've also seen evidence that they shapeshift... i.e. Anna's fangs and
the chick's claws.

Allen

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