Clay didn't lose because he is gay

[Rick]

A lot of people are saying Clay lost because he is gay - but if that were
really an issue to Trump, he would have fired him much earlier. He
certainly had an opportunity the week Penn got fired. For that matter, if
being gay was an issue to Trump, he wouldn't have had Clay on the show at
all.

It also had nothing to do with Trump being a Republican (if that's what he
really is). Arsenio has supported many democratic and liberal causes in the
past (as has his friend Magic Johnson), so politics had nothing to do with
it.

Trump is a celebrity whore. He chooses the winner he thinks is the bigger
celebrity or who has contact with bigger celebrities. That's why he picked
Arsenio. It's the same reason he picked Joan Rivers over Annie Duke.
Arsenio has had a successful TV series, has made a movie with Eddie Murphy
and counts as his friends people like Jay Leno and Magic Johnson. Clay
Aiken's only real claim to fame is that he came in second on American Idol.
Trump literally picked the person he thinks is the bigger star.

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On Monday, May 21, 2012 10:06:08 AM UTC-7, Rick wrote:
> A lot of people are saying Clay lost because he is gay - but if that were
> really an issue to Trump, he would have fired him much earlier. He
> certainly had an opportunity the week Penn got fired. For that matter, if
> being gay was an issue to Trump, he wouldn't have had Clay on the show at
> all.

It's a valid point, but I disagree.

This was, and by a fair distance, a dirty game -- as played by the players. I could count at least four people who openly quit the game rather than continue to play it (and there were probably 2-3 more).

I truly believe that there are people in this country who like to sucker people in and then punch them in the face when they are least expecting it. This wouldn't be the first time this (IMHO) happened to Clay.

> It also had nothing to do with Trump being a Republican (if that's what he
> really is). Arsenio has supported many democratic and liberal causes in the
> past (as has his friend Magic Johnson), so politics had nothing to do with
> it.

Bullshit. We know Trump's a Republican. There was talk of him going for the nomination and announcing at the end of last season. Given the choice between that and this piece of shit season, I'd have taken him on the campaign trail.

> Trump is a celebrity whore. He chooses the winner he thinks is the bigger
> celebrity or who has contact with bigger celebrities. That's why he picked
> Arsenio. It's the same reason he picked Joan Rivers over Annie Duke.
> Arsenio has had a successful TV series, has made a movie with Eddie Murphy
> and counts as his friends people like Jay Leno and Magic Johnson. Clay
> Aiken's only real claim to fame is that he came in second on American Idol.
> Trump literally picked the person he thinks is the bigger star.

You're not the only person to come to that idea, but Arsenio Hall, sadly, hasn't been THAT relevant in years.

But he allowed the entire series to become one whore against the next, and the decision to basically allow Arsenio the prize beyond all other reasoned discussion is not that surprising.

However, I do think politics had a large role in it too.

Mike