7.1 speaker recommendations please?
Cognitive Distortion
Since I plan to buy a (probably Onkyo) 7.1 receiver, I need speakers.
Could I poll some of you for recommendations?
You've been so helpful so far with my other threads and I appreciate
it I thought I'd ask you on this even though it's a tad off topic.
Paul
Kalman Rubinson
You can help us by being more helpful and giving us a budget, your
room dimensions and something about your musical/listening
preferences.
Kal
Ric Seyler
SVS systems. I've installed a 5.1 and 7.1 system for a couple friends.
And WOW. I was impressed for what they cost and the price included
a SVS Sub!! They also get great reviews from many different reviewers.
http://www.svsound.com/products-spks-sbs01.cfm
Paradigms get good reviews also. But I'm partial to the SVS System for the price point.
http://www.paradigm.com/en/paradigm/rec-systems-1-1-2-4.paradigm#
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Cognitive Distortion
My budget would be... oh I don't know.. $500? Definitely not $1,000. I
can't justify spending that on speakers.
Music? Everything. Classical, Classic Rock, Metal, Country, Pop, Hip
Hop, electronic, ambient, etc.
I don't need a killer subwoofer to annoy the neighbors. I don't listen
to stuff THAT loud.
Room dimensions - 12 feet by 100+ feet. My hdtv + surround sound
system will be in my finished basement but the system will be in the
front of my basement where my sectional sofa will be in the first 10
foot area.
Mark A
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> Thanks for that Ric.
>
> My budget would be... oh I don't know.. $500? Definitely not $1,000. I
> can't justify spending that on speakers.
You mean $500 each, right?
Cognitive Distortion
> "Cognitive Distortion" <meat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Sounds like you are not kidding. $500 a speaker is definitely out of
budget.
Kalman Rubinson
Well, I hope someone else can help.
Kal
Mark A
> Sounds like you are not kidding. $500 a speaker is definitely out of
> budget.
So you want 8 speakers (7 plus a subwoofer) for $500.00 total? At that price
point the stuff is going to be junk.
You can get some decent 5.1 speakers for $1000.00. If you don't care about
surround sound or subwoofer and can only spend $500, then consider just 2
front speakers at $250 each.
Psalm Nuclei
> "Cognitive Distortion" <meat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
OK. So what would a decent or typical 7.1 speaker system cost me ?
Sam
wrote:
I bought a Sony 5:1 system, HT-DDW660 at the Radio Shack for maybe
$120, after rebates, a few years ago. It still sound great in my
13x13 TV room. Has anybody heard enough of 7:1 materials to be sure
that they do have a real edge over 5:1?
Doug
> "Cognitive Distortion" <meat...@gmail.com> wrote in message
This is why I recommended the HTiB Onkyo. It has a decent set of
speakers and a receiver with HDMI video switching. The speaker set it
comes with has decent front 3 speakers (see the other thread), and an
active sub. It is also powerful enough to power after market speakers
when you want to (or have the budget to) upgrade. I honestly don't
think you'll need to for a while though.
If you're on a budget and want a really good sounding 7.1 surround
sound system, then try this one.
I am not saying that this system is an audiophile quality system, its
not. I DO think that it is miles ahead of any other HTiB systems you
will get, the speakers are superb (for the price) with an actual
active sub-woofer, and the receiver is an actual receiver, not just
some DVD player with some surround sound processing. The surround
speakers are kind of junk, really cheap enclosure and a tiny speaker.
However, it does provide a quality surround sound system and you can
always pick up additional surround speakers to upgrade as you need to.
Here the link again, in case anyone needs it:
http://tinyurl.com/2l8vlz
(goes to circuitcity.com product page)
ninphan
> $120, after rebates, a few years ago. It still sound great in my
> 13x13 TV room. Has anybody heard enough of 7:1 materials to be sure
> that they do have a real edge over 5:1?
That really depends on the speakers. I would wager that my 5.1 system
will sound better than any "7.1 speaker system" out of the box, but
there is more and more 7.1 sources coming out now on Blu-ray and as
such I will probably add a new pair of fronts, move my fronts to my
rears and my rears to the rear surround in order to enjoy the
additional immersion of a good 7.1 mix.
If your listening area is against the back of the room and you can't
move closer, then 7.1 is unnecessary. It's much more useful when your
listening area has a few feet of room behind it and the back wall.
I've already suggested starting off with a lower end 5.1 system to fit
in your budget, then build from there. You could get a JBL 145.5 for
under $200 and pick up a pair of Axiom M3's for $300 which would give
you a decent sounding 7.1 system and allow you to build moving forward.
brian
Take a look at Orb speakers (www.orb.com). Lots of configuration
choices and a clean upgrade path as your budget allows.They sound
terrific.
Sam
<sjbu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I bought a Sony 5:1 system, HT-DDW660 at the Radio Shack for maybe
>> $120, after rebates, a few years ago. It still sound great in my
>> 13x13 TV room. Has anybody heard enough of 7:1 materials to be sure
>> that they do have a real edge over 5:1?
>
>That really depends on the speakers. I would wager that my 5.1 system
>will sound better than any "7.1 speaker system" out of the box, but
>there is more and more 7.1 sources coming out now on Blu-ray and as
>such I will probably add a new pair of fronts, move my fronts to my
>rears and my rears to the rear surround in order to enjoy the
>additional immersion of a good 7.1 mix.
>
>If your listening area is against the back of the room and you can't
>move closer, then 7.1 is unnecessary. It's much more useful when your
>listening area has a few feet of room behind it and the back wall.
I'm listening close to the side of the room opposite the front
speakers with the two rear speakers on the ceiling about a foot behind
me and to my right and left. There is an optical connection from the
DVD player to the amplifier/receiver. Is an HDMI connection needed
only for 7.1?
Ric Seyler
Lloyd Parsons
Sam <sa...@nospammy.com> wrote:
To get 7.1 as well as codecs beyond DTS (including ES/EX) and DD
(including ES/EX), you need HDMI. The optical/coax digital audio
connections just don't have enough bandwidth.
Ideally in the rear for 7.1, you should have speakers to the right and
left of you as the surrounds, just slightly in back of you. The
surround back speakers should be behind you and spaced fairly close
together. Mine are about 5' apart and I get excellent seperation and a
very full 7.1 sound.
Here's my setup :
Cerwin-Vega CE5M x 6 : Bookshelf speakers as all satellites
Cerwin-Vega CE5C x 1 : Center
Velodyne VRP-1200 : Subwoofer
Yamaha RX-V661 : 7.1 receiver capable of layering PLIIx over
5.1 sources. This is darn handy and really improves 5.1 source
material, imo.
The speakers and subwoofer all together cost me a shade over $600 after
shopping around.
Ric Seyler
>Thanks for that Ric.
>
>My budget would be... oh I don't know.. $500? Definitely not $1,000. I
>can't justify spending that on speakers.
>
>
Well...........Tha Heck With Ya!!!! hehehehe ;-)
A good idea then would be go to your local Best Buy, Circuit City, Ect.
and see if they
have any display setups where you can listen to a HTiB. The Best Buy &
CC here
have little demo areas with a sofa. And see if you can find a preference.
To be honest even a cheapie cheapie system will at least sound more
interesting
(but more than likely not any better) than just the TV speakers.
BUT be aware if you go with the HTiB in I'd guess 90% of the time
you will be limited to what you can upgrade or replace in the future.
Most systems have
proprietary connections and/or weird non-standard ways of passing
signals to the different
components, etc.
Given your budget, it probably won't apply to you but......... DON'T GO
WITH A BOSE SYSTEM!
>Music? Everything. Classical, Classic Rock, Metal, Country, Pop, Hip
>Hop, electronic, ambient, etc.
>
>I don't need a killer subwoofer to annoy the neighbors. I don't listen
>to stuff THAT loud.
>
>
Like someone else said, you only have the reference of the kid ricer
mindset to relate to, subs when
properly balanced won't make your system significantly louder. UNLESS
you live upstairs with open
stud floor under you and over your neighbor. Then they would get the
soundboard effect from it. But
next door neighbors, (Aflac Goat Impression).... NAAAAAAA! And in a
basement... NAAAAAAA!!
Unless you get 17 year old DJTimmyCred next door with the Oil Can
Tailpipe 2 15s subs 1000 watt
Honda Civic to set it up for ya. :-)
Good bottom end REALLY does make a difference.
BUT be aware of the Buyer's Remorse that many get when going with their
first surround system.
Once you get a taste of it, you will wish you made a little better
purchase. This is something you will
have to live with for a while man! You will get savvy pretty quick once
you get familiar and intimate
with watching and enjoying Surround System.
>Room dimensions - 12 feet by 100+ feet. My hdtv + surround sound
>system will be in my finished basement but the system will be in the
>front of my basement where my sectional sofa will be in the first 10
>foot area.
>
>
ninphan
> WITH A BOSE SYSTEM!
Ha, ha, agreed.
"No highs? No lows? Must be Bose."
=D
Psalm Nuclei
stay away from the htib now. Look forward to building my own system,
5.1 or 7.1.
There is no back wall where I will be sitting. My finished basement
looks like this: http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/315/basementlk8.gif
- will it benefit from either 5.1 and 7.1 ?
I could put the rear speakers on pedestals, but its a drop ceiling so
I may affix them there.
ninphan
> Cognitive Distortion <meat...@gmail.com> scribblednews:c3f1846b-67af-4240-
> 9a89-de649c88c...@l22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
> or any blueray/hd that support 7.1. And absolutely no tv shows.
>
> 7.1 is like "quadsound" or other fad crap made up to make everyone go back
> to the stores and buy and "upgrade" their systems, when they don't need to.
>
> I'm just surprised there ain't no 8.34 systems out there, followed by
> 9000.122222 system after.
>
> Too bad they simply just can't make a decent reciever that will pass
> through 5.1 surround sound by HDMI...without spending 700$
>
> Buy a very good 5.1 sound speaker system.
>
> --
>
> > "We discover in the gospels a groundwork of vulgar ignorance, of things
>
> impossible, of superstition, fanaticism and fabrication." -Thomas Jefferson
1) They do make a good receiver capable of 5.1 for less than $700 -
the Onkyo TX-SR605 - $399
2) There are several 7.1 sources already on Blu-ray disc. Pan's
Labyrinth, Hairspray, Waiting..., Shoot 'Em Up, Ultimate Avengers, Dr.
Strange, Weeds Season 2, Rush Hour 3 and you can bet your life that
when New Line releases the Lord of the Rings HD sets that they will
have 7.1 also.
3) Weeds Season 2 is a TV show
You will see more and more properly mixed 7.1 tracks as Blu-ray
continues to move forward in the market. However it doesn't matter
whether or not you have a 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 system because if you're
listening to an uncompressed 7.1 track like the one on Waiting... on a
5.1 system you'll simply hear the 5.1 mix. No damage done. If you have
the space for it a 7.1 track can add much to the overall dimension of
the soundfield.