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Howard Kaikow

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Jul 14, 2008, 5:55:33 PM7/14/08
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What is the best over the air, indoor, HDTV antenna.
Terk HDTVa appears to be too weak when connected to DTV Converter box.


cjdayton...@cox.net

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Jul 14, 2008, 9:04:21 PM7/14/08
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"Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com> wrote:
> What is the best over the air, indoor, HDTV antenna.
> Terk HDTVa appears to be too weak when connected to DTV Converter box.

For UHF signals, the Zenith Silver Sensor is the best I know of.

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Howard Kaikow

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Jul 15, 2008, 4:30:02 AM7/15/08
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> "Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com> wrote:
> > What is the best over the air, indoor, HDTV antenna.
> > Terk HDTVa appears to be too weak when connected to DTV Converter box.
>
> For UHF signals, the Zenith Silver Sensor is the best I know of.

Thanx, seems that Philips now makes the critter.

I'm going to give the
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Performance-Amplified-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B000ES8EG0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1216105795&sr=1-4
a try.

But, I'll buy it locally for a bit more, in case it does not do the deed.


Cbeyond

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Jul 15, 2008, 1:09:37 PM7/15/08
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STOP, I tried that Philips one too. It is inferior to the Silver
Sensor (or clone). In my experience with HDTV indoor antennas;
you don't want an amplified HDTV antenna. Its just adverting
hype and it gives you a slightly worse signal.

m...@privacy.net

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Jul 15, 2008, 1:23:56 PM7/15/08
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Cbeyond <NoSp...@aol.com> wrote:

>STOP, I tried that Philips one too. It is inferior to the Silver
>Sensor (or clone). In my experience with HDTV indoor antennas;
>you don't want an amplified HDTV antenna. Its just adverting
>hype and it gives you a slightly worse signal.

I tried a bunch of indoor models as well.... none
worked

I've resigned that I will have to install a small
outside antenna

antennaguy

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Jul 15, 2008, 10:06:44 AM7/15/08
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"I'll buy it locally for a bit more, in case it does not do the deed."

Always buy your antennas from a source that will refund your full
purchase price, no questions asked, until you find the best indoor
antenna for your location.

Anetnnas Direct (antennasdirect.com) will be introducing their new
Micron indoor antenna in a few weeks. It's billed as a top indoor unit.
They offer a 90 day, no fault gaurantee. If you can't find an indoor
antenna that does the job for you, try it.


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Wes Newell

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Jul 15, 2008, 3:55:02 PM7/15/08
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:09:37 -0700, Cbeyond wrote:

> STOP, I tried that Philips one too. It is inferior to the Silver
> Sensor (or clone). In my experience with HDTV indoor antennas; you
> don't want an amplified HDTV antenna. Its just adverting hype and it
> gives you a slightly worse signal.

Like the women said. Nothing beats size. And most indoor antennas just
don't have it. Dress up a Channel Master cm4021 on a pole and you'd
probably have a damn good indoor antenna. Better would be an 8 bay on a
swivel pole.:-)

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Wes Newell

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Jul 15, 2008, 3:56:08 PM7/15/08
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:23:56 -0500, me wrote:

> I tried a bunch of indoor models as well.... none worked
>
> I've resigned that I will have to install a small outside antenna

Have you tried an outdoor antenna inside?

Cbeyond

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Jul 15, 2008, 11:08:29 PM7/15/08
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It's trial and error with indoor HDTV antennas. It's possible you may
have to have an outdoor antenna on a rotor, that's old fashion but
effective. I have a Zenith Silver Sensor glued to a window pane in
my second story bedroom. A hot glue gun from any hardware store
works well to hold it flat to the glass. Also go to walmart and buy
a phillips HDTV coax cable RG6+ ( or something like that).
It has a blue strip on the ends and is new. This special cable seems
to work well with the silver sensor. A last resort before going with
an outdoor antenna.

JohnR66

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Jul 16, 2008, 10:42:56 PM7/16/08
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"Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best over the air, indoor, HDTV antenna.
> Terk HDTVa appears to be too weak when connected to DTV Converter box.
>
How far are you from the city? My parents are 25 miles from a city with
several digital stations. All on UHF.
Using aluminum foil duct tape, I made a simple bow-tie style antenna and
they get all the channels without breakup.

The foil tape makes antenna building easy as you just cut it to size and
stick it to any surface that won't absorb RF, drill holes and connect the
wires.


Howard Kaikow

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Jul 16, 2008, 11:19:55 PM7/16/08
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"JohnR66" <nos...@att.net> wrote in message
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My condo association would never let me use such an antenna.


CJT

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Jul 16, 2008, 11:29:29 PM7/16/08
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Howard Kaikow wrote:

How will they know?

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Agent_C

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Jul 17, 2008, 11:47:02 AM7/17/08
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:19:55 -0400, "Howard Kaikow"
<kai...@standards.com> wrote:

>My condo association would never let me use such an antenna.

Your condo association has little say in the matter...

FCC regulations regarding the placement and use of video antennas
overrides most anything any homeowners or condo association may have
in their bi-laws. As long as you place the antenna in an area that's
under your 'exclusive control', you'll have no problems, no matter
what it looks like.

It's all here: http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

A_C


dmaster

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Jul 17, 2008, 2:04:43 PM7/17/08
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On Jul 14, 4:55 pm, "Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com> wrote:
> What is the best over the air, indoor, HDTV antenna.
> Terk HDTVa appears to be too weak when connected to DTV Converter box.

With a little creativity, small out door antennas can be mounted
discretely indoors. The smaller "bow tie" type antennas can be put
behind curtains in windows, or on the wall in a seldomly used room.
The Winegard GS2200 model can be put on the top shelf of a closet.
Any of the small outside antennas can be mounted in an attic, or
garage, or other overhead space. Put a set of long rabbit ears behind
a potted tree. Put a pole in a bucket of concrete and mount an
antenna on a balconey. An Antennas Direct V4 Mk.II or the Winegard
GS2200 can be suspended beneath a balcony or deck.

I'm a big fan of the 2/4/8 bow tie antennas, the Winegard GS2200, and
the AD V4 Mk.II and all are pretty compact. Figure out which
direction you need to point. Determine how strong your signals are
from www.tvfool.com . See where you can "hide" your antenna. For
longer distances, you can add a good pre-amp to the bow ties or the
V4. (The GS2200 includes a built in pre-amp. I think there is a
cheaper GS1100 that has no amplifier.) Any of the outdoor antennas
should outperform the indoor only antennas.

Good luck.

Dan (Woj...)

m...@privacy.net

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Jul 17, 2008, 3:25:38 PM7/17/08
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dmaster <dan...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>With a little creativity, small out door antennas can be mounted
>discretely indoors

Dang I wish I cold do this!!!

Unfortunately my local stations are going BACK to 7 and
10 (VHF high) after the transition...so a UHF only
antenna isn't optimal for me!! Dagnabit!

Id love to use the smaller UHF only antennas and keep
it all inside!! But cant!

Wes Newell

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Jul 17, 2008, 4:05:22 PM7/17/08
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I have no problems picking up upper vhf using only my uhf bowtie antenna
(CM4228). In fact it works better than my original vhf antenna did.

m...@privacy.net

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Jul 17, 2008, 5:17:46 PM7/17/08
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Wes Newell <w.ne...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>I have no problems picking up upper vhf using only my uhf bowtie antenna
>(CM4228). In fact it works better than my original vhf antenna did.

Ok but the CM 4228 is a big antenna.... much bigger
than one would want to use indoors. No?

Wes Newell

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Jul 18, 2008, 12:57:56 AM7/18/08
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I don't know. Mine worked fine in the attic. It's only about 3x3 feet. I
wasn't limited to inside so I mounted it outside after a short time.
Reception there was no better or no worse than in the attic.

Howard Kaikow

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Aug 2, 2008, 2:17:28 AM8/2/08
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"Howard Kaikow" <kai...@standards.com> wrote in message
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> I'm going to give the
>
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Performance-Amplified-Indoor-Antenna/dp/B000ES8EG0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1216105795&sr=1-4
> a try.
>
> But, I'll buy it locally for a bit more, in case it does not do the deed.

Alas. the Philipd MANT510 was not as effective as the Terk HDVTa, so I I
return the Philips to Circuit City today.

I see that Amazon has cut the price of the Philips MANT510 to about $27 from
about $35.
Just did not work for me, as well as the Terk HDTVa, on eiither the 1str or
2nd floors on my abode.


Wes Newell

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Aug 2, 2008, 10:35:52 AM8/2/08
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Antennas are all about size. Usually, the bigger the netter. Those set top
antennas aren't worth crap unless there's good strong signals. If you have
weak signals you'll need a larger antenna.

Howard Kaikow

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Aug 2, 2008, 2:10:44 PM8/2/08
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"Wes Newell" <w.ne...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Antennas are all about size. Usually, the bigger the netter. Those set top
> antennas aren't worth crap unless there's good strong signals. If you have
> weak signals you'll need a larger antenna.

I'm most likely going to yell Uncle, and give in and get basic cable.
My house was built wired for cable, and I found the wall connections, one
was buried behind a bookcase.


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