On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:49:12 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>"Roarmeister" <Ebnezrvfg...@argfpncr.arg> wrote: >> Neither, I just think MB is having too much fun playing word games >> here. BTW, I come from a province that has it's share of oddly named >> towns like, Eyebrow, Elbow, and of course my favourite -- Love, Sask. >> Their population "swells" every Feb. 14.
>>> >[...] >>> >> So who was lucky enough to make the cut? The Favorites tribe
>>> I was more interested in the Fans tribe - one of the guys, Erik >>> Reichenbach, is an ice-cream vendor from "Hell" Michigan. >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> Yeah, right...
>>Is it that you don't believe that he's from Hell, Michigan, which is a >>really place, or that he sells ice cream there?
>Screw the job and the name of the town, I want to know what's up with >his hideous Leif Garret hair?
> I was more interested in the Fans tribe - one of the guys, Erik > Reichenbach, is an ice-cream vendor from "Hell" Michigan. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Yeah, right...
Hell isn't that far from Ypsilanti, where Eastern Michigan University is located and where Erik is probably a student, so it is possible.
>> I was more interested in the Fans tribe - one of the guys, Erik >> Reichenbach, is an ice-cream vendor from "Hell" Michigan. >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> Yeah, right...
> Hell isn't that far from Ypsilanti, where Eastern Michigan University > is located and where Erik is probably a student, so it is possible.
Side note: he isn't actually from Hell, he just works there...in the frozen over area. ;-)
>>>>>>> http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20168950_15,00.html >>>> I'd love to know when that picture was taken - she doesn't seem nearly >>>> as muscular as I would have expected and I don't seem to recall that >>>> she looked remotely pudgy on day 1 of season 15. >>> You think that she looks 'pudgy' in that picture?
> <<shaking head violently>> HUH? I think looks awesome! Cirie, now > that's pudgy. But then again, I think two of the best looking women > in S15 are Tracy Hughes-Wolf and Ami Cusak.
>> Yes I do - I don't see a whole lot of muscular tone in that picture. >> I don't see much sign that the woman in that particular photo is up to >> doing strenuous challenges - and based on Amanda's profile from S15 >> you'd expect her to look ultra-fit.
If Amanda has bothered to put on a few extra pounds before beginning S16, that's a good strategy. Would you prefer all the women to start the game looking like Courtney did?
We've been through this in past seasons too; I recall how some fans actually thought that Elisabeth (S2) and Amber (S8/SAS) looked so much better after a month of starvation. Why? I think it's partly because our culture has created a much higher standard for female thinness now.
They've been rerunning the old Star Trek episodes from the 1960s on my local TV stations. And the female guest stars in those episodes look positively overweight by today's standards:
>>>>>>>> http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20168950_15,00.html >>>>> I'd love to know when that picture was taken - she doesn't seem nearly >>>>> as muscular as I would have expected and I don't seem to recall that >>>>> she looked remotely pudgy on day 1 of season 15. >>>> You think that she looks 'pudgy' in that picture?
>> <<shaking head violently>> HUH? I think looks awesome! Cirie, now >> that's pudgy. But then again, I think two of the best looking women >> in S15 are Tracy Hughes-Wolf and Ami Cusak.
>>> Yes I do - I don't see a whole lot of muscular tone in that picture. >>> I don't see much sign that the woman in that particular photo is up to >>> doing strenuous challenges - and based on Amanda's profile from S15 >>> you'd expect her to look ultra-fit.
>If Amanda has bothered to put on a few extra pounds before beginning >S16, that's a good strategy. Would you prefer all the women to start >the game looking like Courtney did?
>We've been through this in past seasons too; I recall how some fans >actually thought that Elisabeth (S2) and Amber (S8/SAS) looked so much >better after a month of starvation. Why? I think it's partly because >our culture has created a much higher standard for female thinness now.
>They've been rerunning the old Star Trek episodes from the 1960s on my >local TV stations. And the female guest stars in those episodes look >positively overweight by today's standards:
Yes, they certainly do. And your point ???
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Why do you feel it is YOUR place to dictate what others should or should not find attractive ???
No one said Amanda's gaining weight was NOT a good strategy and no one said all the female contestant's should look like Courtney at the start of the game.
Your entire argument is that of an extremist (left or right - take your pick) who tries to make the debate about something other that what it is actually about, so you can "win" by "proving" something which is completely irrelevant.
> >>>>>>> http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20168950_15,00.html > >>>> I'd love to know when that picture was taken - she doesn't seem nearly > >>>> as muscular as I would have expected and I don't seem to recall that > >>>> she looked remotely pudgy on day 1 of season 15. > >>> You think that she looks 'pudgy' in that picture?
> > <<shaking head violently>> HUH? I think looks awesome! Cirie, now > > that's pudgy. But then again, I think two of the best looking women > > in S15 are Tracy Hughes-Wolf and Ami Cusak.
> >> Yes I do - I don't see a whole lot of muscular tone in that picture. > >> I don't see much sign that the woman in that particular photo is up to > >> doing strenuous challenges - and based on Amanda's profile from S15 > >> you'd expect her to look ultra-fit.
> If Amanda has bothered to put on a few extra pounds before beginning > S16, that's a good strategy. Would you prefer all the women to start > the game looking like Courtney did?
> We've been through this in past seasons too; I recall how some fans > actually thought that Elisabeth (S2) and Amber (S8/SAS) looked so much > better after a month of starvation. Why? I think it's partly because > our culture has created a much higher standard for female thinness now.
> They've been rerunning the old Star Trek episodes from the 1960s on my > local TV stations. And the female guest stars in those episodes look > positively overweight by today's standards:
> "alooo" <u...@no.net> wrote: >> The youngest new female is 29 so male viewers who tune in for the eye >> candy will have to be satisfied by returning players Parvati, Amanda and >> Eliza.
> Are you suggesting that as some sort of 'hardship'?
The way some guys talk in here, I think the lack of new young girls will be a bit of a hardship for them. Or rather, it won't be a hardship ;p
> We've been through this in past seasons too; I recall how some fans > actually thought that Elisabeth (S2) and Amber (S8/SAS) looked so much > better after a month of starvation. Why? I think it's partly because our > culture has created a much higher standard for female thinness now.
I think it's because Americans are so damn fat that people find it refreshing to see thin and/or fit bodies.
<sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote: >If Amanda has bothered to put on a few extra pounds before beginning >S16, that's a good strategy. Would you prefer all the women to start >the game looking like Courtney did?
If Amanda trained at Wendy's so much the better for her. I thought Christy (who seems to have done likewise) did a wonderful job up to the moment she made her critical blunder- which I don't think was due to her deafness.
>We've been through this in past seasons too; I recall how some fans >actually thought that Elisabeth (S2) and Amber (S8/SAS) looked so much >better after a month of starvation. Why? I think it's partly because >our culture has created a much higher standard for female thinness now.
I don't think the season 8 contestants suffered the way earlier (and later) seasons suffered. Both of the aforementioned ladies looked pretty grim IMHO by the time they were booted. I'd argue my favorite contestant was in the worst shape of any contestant when she was booted up until Janu or Courtney.
I don't go for the pro-ana babes though when it comes to Survivor I most like the ones who start a little pudgy on day 1 but look lean and muscular by day 10-15. Now admittedly at least half of these have alienated a lot of fans by that point but ...
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:34:37 GMT, "alooo" <u...@no.net> wrote: >The way some guys talk in here, I think the lack of new young girls will be >a bit of a hardship for them. Or rather, it won't be a hardship ;p
Hardy har har.
Actually I thought Eliza looked a LOT better in those CBS photos than the first time round.
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:49:12 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>"Roarmeister" <Ebnezrvfg...@argfpncr.arg> wrote: >> Neither, I just think MB is having too much fun playing word games >> here. BTW, I come from a province that has it's share of oddly named >> towns like, Eyebrow, Elbow, and of course my favourite -- Love, Sask. >> Their population "swells" every Feb. 14.
>My favorite is Spread Eagle, WI.
My family in lived in Climax, GA for a while. It could make for an interesting response when people ask you where you are going. "Oh, I'm just going to Climax. Be back in a bit."
>>>> >[...] >>>> >> So who was lucky enough to make the cut? The Favorites tribe
>>>> I was more interested in the Fans tribe - one of the guys, Erik >>>> Reichenbach, is an ice-cream vendor from "Hell" Michigan. >>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>> Yeah, right...
>>>Is it that you don't believe that he's from Hell, Michigan, which is a >>>really place, or that he sells ice cream there?
>>Screw the job and the name of the town, I want to know what's up with >>his hideous Leif Garret hair?
>Must be the token gay guy?
Chet is the gay guy. Works with beauty pagent contestants as a coach.
"shawn" <nanoflo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:09:35 -0600, Roarmeister > <Ebnezrvfg...@argfpncr.arg> wrote: >>>Screw the job and the name of the town, I want to know what's up with >>>his hideous Leif Garret hair?
>>Must be the token gay guy?
> Chet is the gay guy. Works with beauty pagent contestants as a coach.
I never really understood the logistics of this. Male beauty pageant consultant spends all his time with 'beautiful' women. Male dancer spends all his time in close physical contact with women. Male hair dresser spends all his time touching women. Male fashion designer spends all his time dressing women up as he pleases.
Theoretically, shouldn't all these jobs be the 'dream career' for horny men, not gay men?
>> > Chet is the gay guy. Works with beauty pagent contestants as a coach.
>> I never really understood the logistics of this. >> Male beauty pageant consultant spends all his time with 'beautiful' >> women. >> Male dancer spends all his time in close physical contact with women. >> Male hair dresser spends all his time touching women. >> Male fashion designer spends all his time dressing women up as he >> pleases.
>> Theoretically, shouldn't all these jobs be the 'dream career' for horny >> men, >> not gay men?
> It quite possibly is the dream career for horny men.
> So?
So, why is it that very few straihgt men try to pursue careers in such fields?
> Satisfying your sexual urge is not a paying job. Being good at what you > do is a paying job.
Ah, I see. You are claiming that only gay men are good at dancing, clothing design, or hair dressing. Would you care to elaborate on why you think it is that the 'gay gene' is connected to the 'dancing gene', for example?
> Frankly, your question amazes me. You don't get the blindingly obvious?
> It's scary that you're allowed to vote, frankly.
Ah, poor little Elmo. Ed won't play with you so you thought you'd poke at me?
>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:09:35 -0600, Roarmeister >> <Ebnezrvfg...@argfpncr.arg> wrote: >>>>Screw the job and the name of the town, I want to know what's up with >>>>his hideous Leif Garret hair?
>>>Must be the token gay guy?
>> Chet is the gay guy. Works with beauty pagent contestants as a coach.
>I never really understood the logistics of this. >Male beauty pageant consultant spends all his time with 'beautiful' women. >Male dancer spends all his time in close physical contact with women. >Male hair dresser spends all his time touching women. >Male fashion designer spends all his time dressing women up as he pleases.
>Theoretically, shouldn't all these jobs be the 'dream career' for horny men, >not gay men?
I think it might be that the gay guy is safe. Women can trust them not to hit on them so they can relax while they do their job. It won't do any good for a heterosexual male to take a job if the women don't feel relaxed enough to let them do their job.
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:27:12 -0500, shawn <nanoflo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 22:49:12 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>>"Roarmeister" <Ebnezrvfg...@argfpncr.arg> wrote: >>> Neither, I just think MB is having too much fun playing word games >>> here. BTW, I come from a province that has it's share of oddly named >>> towns like, Eyebrow, Elbow, and of course my favourite -- Love, Sask. >>> Their population "swells" every Feb. 14.
>>My favorite is Spread Eagle, WI.
>My family in lived in Climax, GA for a while. It could make for an >interesting response when people ask you where you are going. >"Oh, I'm just going to Climax. Be back in a bit."
I've been to Climax. And Uren, Moose Jaw, Vulcan, Thickwood, Biggar, Craven, Big Beaver and I live in a town called Regina which Mick Jagger says "rhymes with fun" (ie. vagina). Wonderful place, eh?
In article <nh62o3t3udq2e8chspqqsvonckpujnr...@4ax.com>,
Roarmeister <Ebnezrvfg...@argfpncr.arg> wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:27:12 -0500, shawn <nanoflo...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> I've been to Climax. And Uren, Moose Jaw, Vulcan, Thickwood, Biggar, > Craven, Big Beaver and I live in a town called Regina which Mick > Jagger says "rhymes with fun" (ie. vagina). Wonderful place, eh?
You haven't truly lived until you've visited Head Smashed in Buffalo Jump, Alberta.
Forget Amanda. Mary Sartani has to be the hottest female contestant on the show ever. Damn, what a bod! Boobs might be fake though. Doesn't really matter. :)
Natalie Bolton ain't to bad on the eyes either. Tracy Hughes-Wolf is probably the most attractive 40+ woman contestant to ever be on show.
This has to be the most female eye-candy ever in one season of Survivor.
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:12:47 GMT, Kujo <k...@anonymous.com> wrote: >"Ed Stasiak" <estas...@att.net> wrote in news:e7zfj.179837$He.80222 >@fe08.news.easynews.com:
>>> Ray wrote
>>> If he's a pimp, I'm buying what he's selling!!!
>> If Nathan does the Certainty Contest, I've got my picks;
>Forget Amanda. Mary Sartani has to be the hottest female contestant on the >show ever. Damn, what a bod! Boobs might be fake though. Doesn't really >matter. :)
Mary is pretty but I'm pretty sure the boobs are fake which is a bit of a turnoff. For the overall body that looks the best to my eyes I would have to go with Alexis Jones since she's in great shape and seems to be all natural.
>Natalie Bolton ain't to bad on the eyes either. Tracy Hughes-Wolf is >probably the most attractive 40+ woman contestant to ever be on show.
>This has to be the most female eye-candy ever in one season of Survivor.
It's definitely an interesting selection. And I think the ladies can be fairly happy with their selection.
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:12:47 GMT, Kujo <k...@anonymous.com> wrote: >"Ed Stasiak" <estas...@att.net> wrote in news:e7zfj.179837$He.80222 >@fe08.news.easynews.com:
>>> Ray wrote
>>> If he's a pimp, I'm buying what he's selling!!!
>> If Nathan does the Certainty Contest, I've got my picks;
>Forget Amanda. Mary Sartani has to be the hottest female contestant on the >show ever. Damn, what a bod! Boobs might be fake though. Doesn't really >matter. :)
>Natalie Bolton ain't to bad on the eyes either. Tracy Hughes-Wolf is >probably the most attractive 40+ woman contestant to ever be on show.
>This has to be the most female eye-candy ever in one season of Survivor.
On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:12:47 GMT, Kujo <k...@anonymous.com> wrote: >Forget Amanda. Mary Sartani has to be the hottest female contestant on the >show ever. Damn, what a bod! Boobs might be fake though. Doesn't really >matter. :)
Different strokes for different folks I guess. Does remind me a bit of Amber version 1.
>Natalie Bolton ain't to bad on the eyes either. Tracy Hughes-Wolf is >probably the most attractive 40+ woman contestant to ever be on show.
No disagreement on the above points though I'd still give the 40+ crown to my T-Bird from Survivor Africa.
>This has to be the most female eye-candy ever in one season of Survivor.
Certainly the horndogs will not be mourning this season...
>>>> Chet is the gay guy. Works with beauty pagent contestants as a coach. >>> I never really understood the logistics of this. >>> Male beauty pageant consultant spends all his time with 'beautiful' >>> women. >>> Male dancer spends all his time in close physical contact with women. >>> Male hair dresser spends all his time touching women. >>> Male fashion designer spends all his time dressing women up as he >>> pleases.
>>> Theoretically, shouldn't all these jobs be the 'dream career' for horny >>> men, >>> not gay men? >> It quite possibly is the dream career for horny men.
It's no more the "dream career" than becoming an OB/GYN so that you can look at women's vaginas all day long. Or for a woman to become a urologist so she can inspect men's penises all day long.
>> So?
> So, why is it that very few straihgt men try to pursue careers in such > fields?
Fashion design is a *creative* endeavor, of course.
Perhaps straight men can't easily conceive of women's fashions that would appeal to *women*, rather than just looking attractive to men. Straight men are programmed to think of women as attractive to *them*. How many straight men know what styles would make a woman feel good about herself without biasing it toward his own male-oriented preferences?
Gay men might be able to look at the woman and not try to design a fashion that men would like, but that women would like.
Hey, maybe that's why so many of these fashions emphasize the super-thin near-anorexic look: That's what gay men consider to be attractive in a woman--the less woman the better! :-)
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