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Mysterious Traveler

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Jul 11, 2011, 2:28:34 PM7/11/11
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Year 2149......
They still use 20th century vehicles & weapons.

If it were really 2149 they would send drones through and
battle droids to kill everything that could eat humans before
humans went through.

They would use sonic weapons and lasers.

How did they know their machine opened a portal to 85 million
years into the past?

How did they build the enclosure without everyone being eaten?

Where are the flying machines? By 2149 they should have all kinds
of cool flying machines.

I predict they will have to much useless back story for the characters.

Scientist have predicted, from studying fossils, that dinosaurs are
full of parasites and anything eating them would also be full of
parasites. I'm sure they will have many episodes where dinosaur
is the main course. Cook it good.

Cops & robbers in 85 million B.C.... Stop Thief!!!!

Anyone else have predictions?


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Jul 11, 2011, 4:30:53 PM7/11/11
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:28:34 -0500
Mysterious Traveler <mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:

> Anyone else have predictions?

Based on the trailer, my only prediction is: lot of tired action cliches, with
few tired romance and comedy cliches sprinkled in-between. But it will
survive and succeed, because the powers that be seem to want it to succeed.
FFS, they have Spielberg on board.

I'd be happy to be wrong, though (about the cliches, not about the success :)
).

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Anim8rFSK

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Jul 11, 2011, 9:21:16 PM7/11/11
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In article <L5CdnWHLALNr3IbT...@giganews.com>,
Mysterious Traveler <mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:

It's Brannon Braga. It will suck. I won't be watching.

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Frosty

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Jul 11, 2011, 9:45:40 PM7/11/11
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> It's Brannon Braga. It will suck. I won't be watching.

He did write ST:FC so he will always get a pass in my book.


Mysterious Traveler

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Jul 11, 2011, 9:53:11 PM7/11/11
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I'd like to see battle droids like on Star Wars, or that military
robot on The Red Planet go in and wipe out dangerous life forms
and have a hell of a battle doing it against something like T-Rex.

Have flying machines that can fly around Earth to far away places
and see what it was like then, and shoot dinosaurs for sport.

I'll watch at least the first episode. It's got to be better
than SGU.

The only thing humans do good is destroy, so why keep meat eating
dinosaurs around if you have to watch your back all the time?


Your Name

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Jul 12, 2011, 1:23:50 AM7/12/11
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In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9AA91...@news.easynews.com>, Anim8rFSK

Oh God, NNNNNnnnnnnoooooo.....!! What utter moron hired that imbecile for
another job?!? :-(

Thanks for the warning. I'll stay well away from the drivel as well. :-)

Space Cowboy

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Jul 19, 2011, 12:28:32 AM7/19/11
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Mysterious Traveler <mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote in
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Why go so far back? The guy who mentioned parasites in dinos is
right.

They [if they had control of the process] should have gone back only
20-60 million years, after the extinction of the dinos but before the
development of other hominids. Especially if the purpose was to give
humanity a second chance, to re-develope the technology that would
allow their decendents to reach for the stars prior to the emergence
of natural human ancestors like Australopithecus [say over a 10000 to
15000 year period] so as not to interfere with that progression. Our
own emergence from stone age to now is approx. 6000 years from the
Euphrades[sp?] valley to now. So going slowly and deliberately it
should or could be done in 15000, then get all the 'modern humans'
off world and then leave the planet alone to develope natually.

Plus there were many tremendously interesting giant mammal species
that emerged during those ages after the dino death of 65 million
years ago as well as giant flightless birds[probably tastier for
Thanksgiving than lizards]. Guess the producers just didn't think it
through...but then it is Braga,after all.

Fox just seema to want a TV version of "Jurassic Park" from the
promos.

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Space Cowboy

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Jul 19, 2011, 1:52:32 AM7/19/11
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Space Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote in
news:Xns9F274D7934F3H...@88.198.244.100:
I probably shouldn't have used the word 'giant'
but after all, the Mammoths and Mastadons were bigger than modern
Elephants...and there were huge mammals from earlier ages than that
and the birds I mentioned make modern ostriches look like pygmies.
Though some were around the same size.

Then there were the huge mammals that for some reason or other went
back to the ocean some 10-15 million years ago and became our current
cetacean species. It would be interesting to see them as they were
before going back to the water.


>
> Plus there were many tremendously interesting giant mammal species
> that emerged during those ages after the dino death of 65 million
> years ago as well as giant flightless birds[probably tastier for
> Thanksgiving than lizards]. Guess the producers just didn't think
> it through...but then it is Braga,after all.
>

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Your Name

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Jul 19, 2011, 2:15:26 AM7/19/11
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In article <Xns9F2713155C222...@88.198.244.100>, Space
Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote:

> Space Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9F274D7934F3H...@88.198.244.100:
> I probably shouldn't have used the word 'giant' but after all, the
> Mammoths and Mastadons were bigger than modern Elephants...and there
> were huge mammals from earlier ages than that and the birds I
> mentioned make modern ostriches look like pygmies. Though some were
> around the same size.

There was a large flightless bird in New Zealand only a few hundred years
ago called the Moa that put ostriches to shame. There was also a huge
eagle-like bird still around until fairly recently that apparently hunted
the Moa. A bit like Big Foot, the Yeti or the mysterious big cats in
England, there are some people who believe the Moa still exists in the
depths of the forests around the fjords down south, some even claim to
have seen one ... realistically they died out hundreds of years ago at
about the same time the Maori arrived. :-)

Your Name

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Jul 19, 2011, 2:17:02 AM7/19/11
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In article <Xns9F274D7934F3H...@88.198.244.100>, Space Cowboy
<space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote:
>
<snip>

>
> Fox just seema to want a TV version of "Jurassic Park" from the
> promos.

As usual: Been there, done that. :-)
There was an episode of the old time travel show "Sliders" that had the
characters back with dinosaurs. Plus there's the British time portal show
"Primeval" where the characters go to and animals come from various eras
of the past and future.

Space Cowboy

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Jul 19, 2011, 9:52:26 PM7/19/11
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your...@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote in
news:yourname-190...@203-118-185-4.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:

> In article <Xns9F274D7934F3H...@88.198.244.100>,
> Space Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote:
>>
> <snip>
>>

>> Fox just seems to want a TV version of "Jurassic Park" from the

>> promos.
>
> As usual: Been there, done that. :-)
> There was an episode of the old time travel show "Sliders" that
> had the characters back with dinosaurs. Plus there's the British
> time portal show "Primeval" where the characters go to and animals
> come from various eras of the past and future.
>

Yep, and I've been catching up and completed via download the series
"Primeval' though they only once aknowledged the "butterfly effect"
when the ARC changed [where's The Doctor when you need him? Or could
that rift in Cardiff be causing it all? :-) ]aka the short story "A
Sound of Thunder" made both into a new Outer Limits ep and a recent
movie.
:-)

Space Cowboy

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Jul 19, 2011, 9:57:30 PM7/19/11
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there are some people


> who believe the Moa still exists in the depths of the forests
> around the fjords down south, some even claim to have seen one ...
> realistically they died out hundreds of years ago at about the
> same time the Maori arrived. :-)
>

Sad really, like the Dodo, they were probably both tasty and too easy
to catch. :(

Anim8rFSK

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Jul 19, 2011, 10:46:16 PM7/19/11
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In article <ivg905$8t9$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Frosty" <frostyw...@mymts.net> wrote:

> > It's Brannon Braga. It will suck. I won't be watching.
>
> He did write ST:FC so he will always get a pass in my book.

You watch that lately? It hasn't held up at all. And he CO wrote it.
And he made Zephram Cochrane a chick 'cause he hadn't watched ANY real
Trek (he bragged about it) and somebody caught that but every other
aspect of Cochrane and Earth history was wrong. Etc. etc. etc..

Your Name

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Jul 20, 2011, 2:34:53 AM7/20/11
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In article <Xns9F27DF604E4F1...@88.198.244.100>, Space

Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote:
> your...@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote in
> news:yourname-190...@203-118-185-4.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
> >
> > there are some people who believe the Moa still exists in the depths
> > of the forests around the fjords down south, some even claim to have
> > seen one ... realistically they died out hundreds of years ago at
> > about the same time the Maori arrived. :-)
>
> Sad really, like the Dodo, they were probably both tasty and too easy
> to catch. :(

Not sure about it being "easy to catch" ... they "weighed up to 250Kg and
2.5 metres high", and probably could run fast, but they also didn't have
(m)any predators hunting them before man arrived.

Haast's Eagle was the large predator bird that "weighed approximately
10-13kg with a wingspan of up to 2.6m (which was relatively short for its
size)". It fed mostly on the Moa, and both became extinct about the same
time, only about 400 years ago due to hunting by the Maori.

Not sure I'd want that large eagle still around. :-)

There's a TV advert running at the moment for the changeover to digital TV
called "Freeview". The advert runs through forms of transport throughout
history ... and the first one has the character riding a Moa, but it's
unlikely Maori ever did that (at least not as transportation).

Space Cowboy

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Jul 20, 2011, 2:24:29 PM7/20/11
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your...@yourisp.com (Your Name) wrote in
news:yourname-200...@203-118-184-253.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:

>>
>> Sad really, like the Dodo, they were probably both tasty and too
>> easy to catch. :(
>
> Not sure about it being "easy to catch" ... they "weighed up to
> 250Kg and 2.5 metres high", and probably could run fast, but they
> also didn't have (m)any predators hunting them before man arrived.
>

Good point..I just assumed that like the Dodo, the Moa lived
thousands,perhaps a few million years without the presence of us
and didn't know what to make of us[no instinctive fear] when we showed
up. At 660LBS I suspect it wouldn't be too much different than North
American Indians hunting Bison, even prior to the re-introduction of
horses by European settlers. It would have been a group effort.

Space Cowboy

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Jul 20, 2011, 2:31:12 PM7/20/11
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At 660LBS I suspect it wouldn't be too much different
> than North American Indians hunting Bison, even prior to the
> re-introduction of horses by European settlers. It would have been
> a group effort.
>

Plus the Maori were clever, they just didn't throw spears, they knew
how to make animal traps,dig pits etc...work together to get a meal.

Your Name

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Jul 20, 2011, 5:14:54 PM7/20/11
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In article <Xns9F2893B4F66DF...@88.198.244.100>, Space

Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote:
> Space Cowboy <space...@nospam.HephaestusStation.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9F289291C5989...@88.198.244.100:
> >
> > At 660LBS I suspect it wouldn't be too much different
> > than North American Indians hunting Bison, even prior to the
> > re-introduction of horses by European settlers. It would have been
> > a group effort.
>
> Plus the Maori were clever, they just didn't throw spears, they knew
> how to make animal traps,dig pits etc...work together to get a meal.

Yep, and they no doubt ate the eggs too, as did the rats or whatever that
probably came with them.

David V. Loewe, Jr

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Jul 21, 2011, 6:10:58 PM7/21/11
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:28:34 -0500, Mysterious Traveler
<mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:

>Scientist have predicted, from studying fossils, that dinosaurs are
>full of parasites and anything eating them would also be full of
>parasites. I'm sure they will have many episodes where dinosaur
>is the main course. Cook it good.

And the parasites would be adapted to dinosaurs, not mammals.
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Mysterious Traveler

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Jul 22, 2011, 1:16:08 PM7/22/11
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On 07/21/2011 05:10 PM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:28:34 -0500, Mysterious Traveler
> <mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:
>
>> Scientist have predicted, from studying fossils, that dinosaurs are
>> full of parasites and anything eating them would also be full of
>> parasites. I'm sure they will have many episodes where dinosaur
>> is the main course. Cook it good.
>
> And the parasites would be adapted to dinosaurs, not mammals.
They might find humans are tastier than dinosaurs.


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Your Name

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Jul 22, 2011, 5:31:27 PM7/22/11
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On 07/21/2011 05:10 PM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:28:34 -0500, Mysterious Traveler
> <mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:
>
>> Scientist have predicted, from studying fossils, that dinosaurs are
>> full of parasites and anything eating them would also be full of
>> parasites. I'm sure they will have many episodes where dinosaur
>> is the main course. Cook it good.
>
> And the parasites would be adapted to dinosaurs, not mammals.

On the flip-side, it could be the parasites and diseases they bring back
with them that cause the dinosaurs to be wiped out ... ah, the joys of
time travel stories, which rarely work properly. :-)

David Loewe, Jr.

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Jul 28, 2011, 2:43:11 PM7/28/11
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 12:16:08 -0500, Mysterious Traveler
<mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:

>On 07/21/2011 05:10 PM, David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 13:28:34 -0500, Mysterious Traveler
>> <mysteriou...@dot.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Scientist have predicted, from studying fossils, that dinosaurs are
>>> full of parasites and anything eating them would also be full of
>>> parasites. I'm sure they will have many episodes where dinosaur
>>> is the main course. Cook it good.
>>
>> And the parasites would be adapted to dinosaurs, not mammals.

>They might find humans are tastier than dinosaurs.

Doubtful. Check out the evolution of body lice.
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