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Tim Bruening

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Jun 30, 2007, 3:21:02 AM6/30/07
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In this episode, Samantha attempts to hide an entire village, but
Merlin's phase shifting device fail safes due to a slight fluctuation in
the power, and the village reappears. Before Sam can fix the device,
the Ori invade, killing many villagers and taking Vala back to their
mother ship to be instructed in the Ori faith by her former husband
Tobin. Tobin's attempts to indoctrinate Vala fail miserably. Vala
keeps asking him the Stargate equivalent of "Hey, hey, LBJ, how many
babies did you kill today?", and asking him how a just God can justify
massacring a village.

Meanwhile, Cameron manages to make a building disappear. The Prior
threatens to massacre the village unless the building reappears.

Tobin tells Vala the story of one Marcon, who was starving in an Ori
village. The Ori permitted him to cross a line in the sand to get food,
but when he tried to get back after experiencing spiritual emptiness,
the line had become a chasm. Past this point, Tobin has a theological
disagreement with the Prior. In Tobin's version, the village readmitted
Marcon when he renewed his faith in the Ori, and the Ori rewarded the
village for its mercy. In the Prior's version, the Ori destroyed the
village for readmitting a heretic, even though the heretic repented.
When the Prior destroys the village, Tobin helps Vala escape. He
refuses Vala's suggestion that he go with her. IMHO, that's a mistake.
May the writers be cursed for missing an opportunity to reunite Tobin
with his loving wife!

Just in time, Cameron disappears the entire village, saving it from the
Prior's wrath.

I am intrigued by the theological dispute between Tobin and the Prior.
Could this lead to sectarian violence among the followers of the Ori?

Jette

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Jun 30, 2007, 11:30:50 AM6/30/07
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> I am intrigued by the theological dispute between Tobin and the Prior.
> Could this lead to sectarian violence among the followers of the Ori?


When it happened in Europe, we called it "The Reformation". Tobin just
became the first Protestant follower of the Ori.


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Jette Goldie
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Tim Bruening

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Jun 30, 2007, 7:42:12 PM6/30/07
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Jette wrote:

Why didn't the Prior execute him on the spot?

Pete B

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Jul 2, 2007, 12:14:36 PM7/2/07
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In article <KGuhi.14507$p8....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
boss...@scotlandmail.com says...

> > I am intrigued by the theological dispute between Tobin and the Prior.
> > Could this lead to sectarian violence among the followers of the Ori?
>
>
> When it happened in Europe, we called it "The Reformation". Tobin just
> became the first Protestant follower of the Ori.


What was it called when it happened in the middle east?

Stile4aly

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Jul 2, 2007, 12:42:01 PM7/2/07
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On Jul 2, 9:14 am, Pete B <xxxh@_someething.com> wrote:
> In article <KGuhi.14507$p8.9...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> bossl...@scotlandmail.com says...

>
> > > I am intrigued by the theological dispute between Tobin and the Prior.
> > > Could this lead to sectarian violence among the followers of the Ori?
>
> > When it happened in Europe, we called it "The Reformation". Tobin just
> > became the first Protestant follower of the Ori.
>
> What was it called when it happened in the middle east?

I don't know the formal name, but the schism in Islam Sunni and Shia
is more akin to the schism between the Roman Catholic Church and the
Greek Orthodox church. Although there are liberal movements within
Islam, there isn't anything on the scale of the Protestant
Reformation, primarily because there isn't a centralized church to
reform against.

Tim Bruening

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Jul 4, 2007, 5:19:01 AM7/4/07
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and the village reappears. Before Sam can fix the device, the Ori warriors


invade, killing many villagers and taking Vala back to their mother ship to
be instructed in the Ori faith by her former husband Tobin.

As Ori warriors rampage through the village, Cameron tries to help Samantha
repair the phase shifters. An Ori warrior even enters the room which has
the phase shifters, shooting Sam. I was therefore wondering what would
happen if the village or a building disappeared with Ori soldiers IN it! I
was somewhat disappointed when the building disappeared with no Ori troops
in it, leaving my question unanswered.

After the building is phase shifted, a Prior walks inside the space occupied
by it to try to find it. After failing to find it, he walks through the
wall. IMHO, Cameron should have phase shifted it back the moment the Prior
intersected the wall! Bye bye, Prior!

Merrick Baldelli

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Jul 4, 2007, 8:02:42 PM7/4/07
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He was his brother-in-law and his wife would cut off sex for
him for the rest of their existence?

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Tim Bruening

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Jul 4, 2007, 10:09:47 PM7/4/07
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Merrick Baldelli wrote:

It doesn't seem to me that such considerations would stop a Prior. I'm not
certain that the Priors even have normal social relationships! Do Priors seem
like the sort of people who would get married or have sex?

Tim Bruening

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Jul 4, 2007, 11:03:21 PM7/4/07
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Merrick Baldelli wrote:

It doesn't seem to me that such considerations would stop a Prior. I
wouldn't put it past a Prior to execute his own wife if she turned
against the Ori!

ji...@tuells.org

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Jul 5, 2007, 12:55:32 PM7/5/07
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In article <468C52EA...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,

We know that one of them is married and has kids. In season 9 (I think
it is Fourth Horseman) they use the anti prior device for the first
time and trap one of the priors for a time. During this period Landry
talks to the prior and asks if he has a family. Then Orlin comes
and talks to the prior about his wife and kids.

Jill
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we are becoming white light.
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Merrick Baldelli

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Jul 6, 2007, 10:16:01 AM7/6/07
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 19:09:47 -0700, Tim Bruening
<tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:

*blinks*

>I'm not certain that the Priors even have normal social relationships! Do
>Priors seem like the sort of people who would get married or have sex?

The question is -- do you? The way that you totally killed
this snark by actually considering it as remotely on topic can mean
only one thing:

Dude -- get out more.

Jason Maxwell

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Jul 6, 2007, 10:57:08 AM7/6/07
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"Merrick Baldelli" <mbal...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Merrick meet Tim Bruening. Now add him to your ignore file, he'll never get
it and its not worth trying.

Jason


Merrick Baldelli

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Jul 8, 2007, 10:35:55 PM7/8/07
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:57:08 -0700, "Jason Maxwell" <jaso...@cox.net>
wrote:

[some snippage]

>Merrick meet Tim Bruening. Now add him to your ignore file, he'll never get
>it and its not worth trying.

I remember Tim... I've had a couple of run ins with him some
years back. I like using the silly smeghead as a chew toy. It's
amusing to watch him squeak once in a while.

Tim Bruening

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Jul 4, 2009, 4:57:13 PM7/4/09
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Merrick Baldelli wrote:

It doesn't seem to me that such considerations would stop a Prior. I'm

Tim Bruening

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:10:21 AM11/27/09
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Stile4aly wrote:

I wonder if the CIA could invent a liberal form of Islam, then plant Lawrence of
Arabia type agents in the Middle East to spread it. I'm sure that CIA agents
would have been assigned to study the Koran when Muslim terrorists became a
major problem.

Tim Bruening

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Nov 27, 2009, 3:12:01 AM11/27/09
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Merrick Baldelli wrote:

I'm certain that a Prior could simply hypnotize or otherwise coerce his wife
into having sex with him!

Tim Bruening

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:24:24 AM1/4/10
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Stile4aly wrote:

I wonder if the CIA could invent a liberal form of Islam, then plant

Dano

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:59:07 AM1/4/10
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"Tim Bruening" <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote in message
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I think they have enough trouble finding Arabic speakers.


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