>> Well, Neelix and the Doc and the Klingons were hilarious and IMO, the only
redeeming thing about this episode. <<
They went on a little too long, IMO. Still, that's what holodeck scenes should be for: a brief glimpse to provide humor or insight into the characters. *Not* the whole plot.
>> I thought the Hirogen had real promise as enemies...they ruined them in
these 2 eps for me. Yeah, uh huh...music soothes the savage beast....UGH! <<
I liked the idea of a race who evolved as solitary hunters having to adapt to spacefaring life.
>> And of course, Harry kicked major butt!
Yes Arlie, he did. I usually like Harry better in this type of mode. <<
It was interesting because it was different...but it was still Harry. An aspect of his personality we'd only seen hints of before.
> >> Well, Neelix and the Doc and the Klingons were hilarious and IMO, the only > redeeming thing about this episode. <<
> They went on a little too long, IMO. Still, that's what holodeck scenes should > be for: a brief glimpse to provide humor or insight into the characters. *Not* > the whole plot.
I couldn't agree more!!!
> >> I thought the Hirogen had real promise as enemies...they ruined them in > these 2 eps for me. Yeah, uh huh...music soothes the savage beast....UGH! <<
> I liked the idea of a race who evolved as solitary hunters having to adapt to > spacefaring life.
So did I and when they first encountered them, the Hirogen were frightening.
> >> And of course, Harry kicked major butt!
> Yes Arlie, he did. I usually like Harry better in this type of mode. <<
> It was interesting because it was different...but it was still Harry. An > aspect of his personality we'd only seen hints of before.
> -- Arlie
I agree again here, and a part we don't usually see him pushed to either, as Harry seems to be the perfect StarFleet Academy Graduate, much like Janeway.
Agreed... AND.... She can sing. She has proven her acting ability time and again, buy "stepping out" of the borg personna. She is the only reason to watch Voyager... Well her and to see Janeways coutrmartial, which markmy words, will come when they finally make it home.
William_Ri...@webtv.net wrote: > Well her and to see Janeways coutrmartial, which markmy words, will come > when they finally make it home.
Ain't gonna happen. Bringing back an intact ship with most of the crew alive would be seen as an heroic act. Something to make the people feel good after a devastating Alpha Quadrant war.
>> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is one >of >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress as >> >well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL acting >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the >looks - >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her >talent >> >portion as well. What a voice.
Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;)
>> >Mic
>> I'm pretty sure Jeri Ryan was in a TV series before Voyager but I don't >recall >> what series.
Dark Skies, think she was in just a few eps.
I believe it was short-lived. But she is a good actress. I
>> don't dislike her at all, or even the character of Seven. I just dislike >the >> overuse of the character, and the amount of time and energy TPTB have >given to >> Seven's development while not bothering to show the remotely the same >level of >> interest in the development of the other main characters.
>> Julie
>You're kinder than I am about her acting, but you basically stated my >"Wesley" argument perfectly!
> >> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is one > >of > >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress as > >> >well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL acting > >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the > >looks - > >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her > >talent > >> >portion as well. What a voice.
> Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and > she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted > to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;)
Actually that is one of the very few pagents that does focus mainly on talent and poise. It has also produced a number of success stories. Look at Vanessa Williams. No one can dispute her talent.
I didn't see Ryan in that pagent or if I did, it wasn't reamrkable. But I have heard her sing and I think she is wonderful. But then again, I like Celine Dion and Shania Twain - so what do I know?
|But then again, I like |Celine Dion and Shania Twain - so what do I know?
Masked Man---->I know what I know: you have great taste in music. Celine is one of a kind. When all is said and done, she'll be one of the great pop singers of our time - mentioned in the same breath as Ella and Frank...
> On Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:56:14 -0500, "Lady Pie aka Michelle" > <LadyPie_2...@NOLIKESPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> |But then again, I like > |Celine Dion and Shania Twain - so what do I know?
> Masked Man---->I know what I know: you have great taste in music. > Celine is one of a kind. When all is said and done, she'll be one of > the great pop singers of our time - mentioned in the same breath as > Ella and Frank...
Thanks, MM. I don't necessarily care for every song she has ever done, but there is no denying the talent. She is also a classy lady.
Use of any one of these will automatically raise the value of your posts from casual poster, to informed poster in no time flat.
Following is a filmography for Jeri (Lynn) Ryan:
Birth name Jeri Lynn Zimmerman Date of birth (location) 22 February 1968, Munich, Germany
Sometimes Credited As: Jeri Lynn (II) Jeri Lynn Ryan
Filmography as: Actress, Notable TV guest appearances
1.Dracula 2000 (2000) ... aka Wes Craven Presents Dracula 2000 (2000) (USA) 2.Kid, The (2000) (as Jeri Ryan) ... aka Disney's The Kid (2000) (USA: complete title) 3.Last Man, The (2000) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Monique 4.Men Cry Bullets (1997) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Lydia 5."Dark Skies" (1996) TV Series (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Juliet Stuart (1997) 6."Star Trek: Voyager" (1995) TV Series (as Jeri Ryan) .... Seven of Nine aka Annika Hansen (1997-) 7.Pier 66 (1996) (TV) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Beth Saunders 8.Co-ed Call Girl (1996) (TV) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Kimberly 9.Matlock: The Fatal Seduction (1993) (TV) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Carrie 10.In the Line of Duty: Ambush in Waco (1993) (TV) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) 11.Nightmare in Columbia County (1991) (TV) (as Jeri Lynn Ryan) .... Dawn Elizabeth Smith ... aka Victim of Beauty (1991) (TV) (UK)
Filmography as: Actress, Notable TV guest appearances
Notable TV guest appearances 1."Sentinel, The" (1996) playing "Alexis Barnes" in episode: "Sentinel, Too: Part 2" (episode # 4.1) 2/1/1999 2."Dilbert" (1999) playing "7 of 9 alarm clock"(voice) in episode: "Gift, The" (episode # 2.1) 11/2/1998 3."Sentinel, The" (1996) playing "Alexis Barnes" in episode: "Sentinel, Too" (episode # 3.23) 5/20/1998 4."Melrose Place" (1992) playing "Valerie Madison" in episode: "Ruthless People" (episode # 4.25) 3/4/1996 5."Melrose Place" (1992) playing "Valerie Madison" in episode: "Devil In a Wet Dress" (episode # 4.22) 2/12/1996 6."Client, The" (1995) playing "Jennifer" in episode: "Morning After, The" (episode # 1.15) 2/6/1996 7."Charlie Grace" (1995) playing "Claire" in episode: "Designer Knock-Off" (episode # 1.5) 10/12/1995 8."Murder, She Wrote" (1984) playing "Maura" in episode: "Death 'N Denial" (episode # 11.13) 1/22/1995 9."Time Trax" (1993) playing "Lauren Sanders" in episode: "Out For Blood" (episode # 2.18) 10/31/1994 10."Matlock" (1986) playing "Carrie" in episode: "Fatal Seduction: Part 2" (episode # 8.3) 10/7/1993 11."Matlock" (1986) playing "Carrie" in episode: "Fatal Seduction: Part 1" (episode # 8.2) 9/30/1993 12."Jackie Thomas Show, The" (1992) playing "Pauline Yardley" in episode: "Jackie and the Model" (episode # 1.6) 1/5/1993 13."Nurses" (1991) playing "Lisa" in episode: "Mother, Jugs, and Zach" (episode # 1.6) 10/19/1991 14."Top of the Heap" (1991) playing "Tyler" in episode: "Marrying Guy, The" (episode # 1.6) 5/12/1991 15."Flash, The" (1990) playing "Felicia Kane" in episode: "Deadly Nightshade, The" (episode # 1.15) 3/28/1991 16."Reasonable Doubts" (1991) playing "Rachel Beckwith"(episode # 1.9) 17."Who's the Boss?" (1984) playing "Pam" in episode: "Unsinkable Tony Micelli, The" (episode # 7.17) 1991
>I don't dislike her at all, or even the character of Seven. I just dislike the >overuse of the character, and the amount of time and energy TPTB have given to >Seven's development while not bothering to show the remotely the same level of >interest in the development of the other main characters.
When you're Seven of Braga -- overuse is irrelevant.
>I agree again here, and a part we don't usually see him pushed to either, as >Harry seems to be the perfect StarFleet Academy Graduate, much like Janeway.
On 01 Jul 2000 20:49:33 GMT, arli...@aol.comNoSpam (Arlie) wrote:
>>> I thought the Hirogen had real promise as enemies...they ruined them in >these 2 eps for me. Yeah, uh huh...music soothes the savage beast....UGH! <<
>I liked the idea of a race who evolved as solitary hunters having to adapt to >spacefaring life.
I thought that they were already space faring, and then became solitary hunters?
On Sat, 01 Jul 2000 07:39:01 GMT, Steve Christianson
<stevechristian...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Because men are unlikely to hate each other for showing up to a party >wearing the same type of shoes.
>[runs]
><g>
You need to come to one of my parties. I swear I have to make sure plastic utensils and glasses are used, or else there would be marred people everywhere.
>OTOH, I do believe that she single-handedly comes up with the answer for the >rest of the crew in more than half the episodes, seasons 4-6.
Ironically, I was out shopping Saturday night and came across a Star Trek Mag that had the statistics of Wonder Wesley. Here, let me share them with you:
Total percent Wesley Crusher saved the Enterprise in 7 seasons:
12%
Total percent Wesley Crusher saved the Enterprise until he left in "First Duty":
20%
Total percent Wesley Crush saved the Enterprise in the First Season:
**** 24% ****
I can't wait to see percentages for Seven of Braga.
> >> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is one > >of > >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress as > >> >well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL acting > >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the > >looks - > >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her > >talent > >> >portion as well. What a voice.
> Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and > she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted > to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;)
Hi gf:-) *you* at least, are speaking from experience ... I can comment because her voice is my range and Since I have heard them, I think that Picardo, Beltran, Russ, (and probably Philips and Dawson), sing equally as well....(don't know if KM or GW sing).
> >> I'm pretty sure Jeri Ryan was in a TV series before Voyager but I don't > >recall > >> what series.
> Dark Skies, think she was in just a few eps.
> I believe it was short-lived. But she is a good actress. I > >> don't dislike her at all, or even the character of Seven. I just dislike > >the > >> overuse of the character, and the amount of time and energy TPTB have > >given to > >> Seven's development while not bothering to show the remotely the same > >level of > >> interest in the development of the other main characters.
> >> Julie
> >You're kinder than I am about her acting, but you basically stated my > >"Wesley" argument perfectly!
> >OTOH, I do believe that she single-handedly comes up with the answer for the > >rest of the crew in more than half the episodes, seasons 4-6.
> Ironically, I was out shopping Saturday night and came across > a Star Trek Mag that had the statistics of Wonder Wesley. Here, let > me share them with you:
> Total percent Wesley Crusher saved the Enterprise in 7 > seasons:
> 12%
I'd bet this tops a few other characters...
> Total percent Wesley Crusher saved the Enterprise until he > left in "First Duty":
> 20%
> Total percent Wesley Crush saved the Enterprise in the First > Season:
> **** 24% ****
> I can't wait to see percentages for Seven of Braga.
Me either...I am sure she has surpassed him, and I would imagine the Doc has too... That's interesting. Thanks for sharing it!
>> >> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is >one >> >of >> >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress >as >> >> >well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL >acting >> >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the >> >looks - >> >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her >> >talent >> >> >portion as well. What a voice.
>> Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and >> she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted >> to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;)
>Actually that is one of the very few pagents that does focus mainly on >talent and poise. It has also produced a number of success stories. Look >at Vanessa Williams. No one can dispute her talent.
Actually Talent is worth 40%, Swimsuit and evening gown is 30% and Interview is worth 30% of the program they changed the rules a few years back. It is a wonderful program for young women, but most the most talented women are left in the remaining 40 contestants not picked for the top 10. They pick the top ten to create a "good show" and not always the best singers etc are selected. A lot of it depends on the state you are from (Illinois has a strong state pageant). Vanessa Williams was a very strong singer and has my respect as a artist she could sing and deserved the title. To this day I give her credit for going on and showing the Miss A pageant just how talented she was!!!
>I didn't see Ryan in that pagent or if I did, it wasn't reamrkable. But I >have heard her sing and I think she is wonderful. But then again, I like >Celine Dion and Shania Twain - so what do I know?
I enjoy Celine and enjoy cranking Shania on the car cd player, but as far as Jeri Ryan singing would have to disagree with you :))))
> > >> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is > one of > > >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress > as well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL acting > > >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the > > >looks - > > >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her > > >talent portion as well. What a voice.
> > Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and > > she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted > > to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;) > Hi gf:-) > *you* at least, are speaking from experience ... > I can comment because her voice is my range and Since I have heard them, I > think that Picardo, Beltran, Russ, (and probably Philips and Dawson), sing > equally as well....(don't know if KM or GW sing).
You forgot Robbie! :(
I've heard him sing, and he's pretty much at the same level as Tim, IMHO.
>>>I liked the idea of a race who evolved as solitary hunters having to adapt to >spacefaring life.
I thought that they were already space faring, and then became solitary hunters? <<
No, I think they were always solitary hunters. The problem was that space travel allowed them/forced them to become *too* solitary. Sort of Trek's version of Dorsai. <g>
>> >> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is >one >> >of >> >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress >as >> >> >well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL >acting >> >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the >> >looks - >> >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her >> >talent >> >> >portion as well. What a voice.
>> Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and >> she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted >> to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;)
>Hi gf:-) >*you* at least, are speaking from experience ...
Yes my limited experience but was a fun time :))) Can we say Elizabeth Ward er Gracen???
>I can comment because her voice is my range and Since I have heard them, I >think that Picardo, Beltran, Russ, (and probably Philips and Dawson), sing >equally as well....(don't know if KM or GW sing).
Interesting would put Tim Russ way ahead of them all as far as voices go but thats just MHO :)))
>> >> I'm pretty sure Jeri Ryan was in a TV series before Voyager but I don't >> >recall >> >> what series.
>> Dark Skies, think she was in just a few eps.
>> I believe it was short-lived. But she is a good actress. I >> >> don't dislike her at all, or even the character of Seven. I just >dislike >> >the >> >> overuse of the character, and the amount of time and energy TPTB have >> >given to >> >> Seven's development while not bothering to show the remotely the same >> >level of >> >> interest in the development of the other main characters.
>> >> Julie
>> >You're kinder than I am about her acting, but you basically stated my >> >"Wesley" argument perfectly!
> >>I'm pretty sure Jeri Ryan was in a TV series before Voyager but I don't > >recall > >>what series. I believe it was short-lived. But she is a good actress.
> > Julie -- following are wonderful tools to use here before you > >decide on posting something vague:
> > Use of any one of these will automatically raise the value of > >your posts from casual poster, to informed poster in no time flat.
> Pardon me? Before I decide on posting something vague? When I know something, > I'll state it. When I don't, I will simply state as I did above, that I'm not > quite sure of the specifics, thus allowing someone else who does know the > specifics to fill them in. Quite honestly, I had no interest in researching > exactly which series Jeri Ryan appeared in briefly. If not knowing that little > fact makes me a "casual" poster, instead of an "informed" poster, oh, well.
> I've noticed that posting "vague" information is done quite often on this > newsgroup, without people being told to go do research before they post. So > why pick on me? Still ticked at me for being supposedly "ignorant" when it was > *you* who misread my post, accused me falsely of making a statement I did not > make, and then flamed me? That's the best I can figure, and I don't get it. > You were wrong.
> >>I don't dislike her at all, or even the character of Seven. I just dislike > >the > >>overuse of the character, and the amount of time and energy TPTB have given > >to > >>Seven's development while not bothering to show the remotely the same level > >of > >>interest in the development of the other main characters.
> > When you're Seven of Braga -- overuse is irrelevant.
> Well, irrelevant to Braga anyway, not necessarily to the fans.
> Julie
Julie just ignore him he is an jerk. You did nothing wrong. I think he wants to stir things up. --
Michele
"take the cheese to sickbay" B'elanna What is the phrase heard most often in Voyager's Mess Hall? "Medical Emergency!!!" What did the blonde Klingon say? It was a good day to dye.
>>I'm pretty sure Jeri Ryan was in a TV series before Voyager but I don't >recall >>what series. I believe it was short-lived. But she is a good actress. > Julie -- following are wonderful tools to use here before you >decide on posting something vague:
> Use of any one of these will automatically raise the value of >your posts from casual poster, to informed poster in no time flat.
Pardon me? Before I decide on posting something vague? When I know something, I'll state it. When I don't, I will simply state as I did above, that I'm not quite sure of the specifics, thus allowing someone else who does know the specifics to fill them in. Quite honestly, I had no interest in researching exactly which series Jeri Ryan appeared in briefly. If not knowing that little fact makes me a "casual" poster, instead of an "informed" poster, oh, well.
I've noticed that posting "vague" information is done quite often on this newsgroup, without people being told to go do research before they post. So why pick on me? Still ticked at me for being supposedly "ignorant" when it was *you* who misread my post, accused me falsely of making a statement I did not make, and then flamed me? That's the best I can figure, and I don't get it. You were wrong.
>
>>I don't dislike her at all, or even the character of Seven. I just dislike >the >>overuse of the character, and the amount of time and energy TPTB have given >to >>Seven's development while not bothering to show the remotely the same level >of >>interest in the development of the other main characters. > When you're Seven of Braga -- overuse is irrelevant.
Well, irrelevant to Braga anyway, not necessarily to the fans.
> > > >> >I can honestly say that I am not jealous of her, but I think she is > > one of > > > >> >the most beautiful women in the business and is a damned fine actress > > as well. I couldn't believe when I read that VOY was her first REAL acting > > > >> >job. She seems much more seasoned than any of them. ANd as for the > > > >looks - > > > >> >there is 3rd runner up for 1990 Miss America. She placed high in her > > > >talent portion as well. What a voice.
> > > Yes what a voice, she could not sing in the 1990 Miss America pageant and > > > she still can't sing! Well the Miss America pageant has never been noted > > > to choose the most *talented* top ten contestants ;)
> > Hi gf:-) > > *you* at least, are speaking from experience ... > > I can comment because her voice is my range and Since I have heard them, I > > think that Picardo, Beltran, Russ, (and probably Philips and Dawson), sing > > equally as well....(don't know if KM or GW sing).
> You forgot Robbie!
> I've heard him sing, and he's pretty much at the same level as Tim, IMHO.
Wow...loved his speaking voice...I don't think it records well on tv... If he's at the Ball stuff this year, we'll have to see if we can get him to sing something (he was great with the audience).
