Re: Wrestler clown spits on memories of 9/11 victims
Ubiquitous
>Most Americans are terrified by the notion that people in our own
>government could possibly be that evil. They really couldn't handle
>such a "truth".
>So it's easier to label those that question as loons and dingbats.
No, most Americans have better things to do than waste their time on
spculative fiction with no basis in fact.
ObTV:
There was a wonderful ep of Southpark which featured a montage of
Cartman "doing research" while singing a little ditty about him
not letting facts get in the way of his search for the truth.
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.
Dano
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
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> janea...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Most Americans are terrified by the notion that people in our own
> >government could possibly be that evil. They really couldn't handle
> >such a "truth".
> >So it's easier to label those that question as loons and dingbats.
>
> No, most Americans have better things to do than waste their time on
> spculative fiction with no basis in fact.
>
That's all the 9/11 Commision was. But whatever. God forbid there be a
proper investigation of the most horrific crime ever committed in the Un
ited States. What are you fools afraid of?
I'm not the one claiming to have all the answers. Be a friggin' sheep. It
suits you.
Lord Gow 333, not a White House approved poster!
"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Look, Mommy! It's a FROOT LOOP!!!
LG (knows that Sept. 11 was the work of the Ugandans)
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"No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as
the
will and moral courage of free men and women." - Ronald Reagan
Ouroboros Rex
> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
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>> janea...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> Most Americans are terrified by the notion that people in our own
>>> government could possibly be that evil. They really couldn't handle
>>> such a "truth".
>>> So it's easier to label those that question as loons and dingbats.
>>
>> No, most Americans have better things to do than waste their time on
>> spculative fiction with no basis in fact.
>>
>
> That's all the 9/11 Commision was. But whatever. God forbid there
> be a proper investigation of the most horrific crime ever committed
> in the Un ited States. What are you fools afraid of?
This. The real 9/11 conspiracy - of dunces.
Don't miss the second paragraph.
"...On or about Jan. 20th, 2001, as the Clinton administration transitioned
to the Bush, NSC chief Sandy Berger briefed Condi Rice extensively on the
terrorism threat posed by bin Laden, telling her she would be spending more
time on this threat than she ever imagined. At the Dept. of Defense, William
Cohen was performing the same courtesy for Don Rumsfeld, again with a sharp
reminder of the terrorist threat in the form of a hand-written letter to
Rumsfeld containing the phone numbers of people in the Pentagon Rumsfeld
needed to speak to directly on the subject. On Jan. 26th, the CIA confirmed
to the new Bush administration that bin Laden and Al Qaeda were responsible
for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole which killed 17 American sailors.
The response of the Bush administration was to cease Predator drone
surveillance flights to track bin Laden, reassign the cruise-missile
equipped submarine stationed in the Indian Ocean with the specific mission
of targeting bin Laden, reassign the AC-130 gunships on scramble alert that
could be on top of bin Laden after a six hour flight, suspend the special
forces operations targeting bin Laden already based in Uzbekistan for the
purpose thanks to a treaty signed by Bill Clinton.
In May, June and July, the sole remaining Clinton appointee, CIA Director
Tenet, was frantic with concern over incoming intelligence indicating a huge
terrorist attack on American soil. Vice-President Dick Cheney was head of a
new counter-terrorism task force, yet held no meetings. Attorney General
John Ashcroft refused FBI requests for hundreds of new agents to be assigned
to counter-terrorism; his concerns were drugs and pornography, yet in late
July he stopped flying commercial airliners due to a "threat assessment."
The general threat assessment was considered to be the most severe in
decades according to CIA's Tenet; members of the Senate Intelligence
Committee were briefed on the situation on July 5th.
Also in July, an Arizona FBI agent wrote the 'Phoenix Memo,' expressing
concern about possible Al Qaeda members taking flying lessons in this
country towards the end of terrorist attacks. One of the two FBI officials
to see it before the attacks was New York counter-terrorism chief John
O'Neill; contemporaneous with the timing of this memo was O'Neill's remarks
to the authors of 'Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth,' wherein O'Neill expressed
his outrage with the Bush administration's thwarting of counter-terrorist
efforts in the interests of protecting its Saudi sponsors. John O'Neill
would soon quit the FBI in disgust, only to die at his new job as chief of
security at the WTC.
Also in July, the FAA rescinded the rule allowing airline pilots to be
armed, a rule that had been in force since 1961.
August found George W. Bush 'vacationing' for the entire month in rural
Texas, while Dick Cheney similarly spent the month in rural Wyoming. On
August 1st actor James Woods as flying from Logan to Los Angeles, sharing
1st class with four Middle Eastern men, who ate nothing, drank nothing, read
nothing, nor slept the entire flight, only making occasional low comments to
one another. Woods remarked to the flight attendant that 'These guys act
like they're going to hijack the plane,' and once the plane landed he
repeated his concerns to the FAA. All four men were hijackers on Sept.
11th. On Aug. 6th, Bush himself was apparently finally briefed about the
specific threat of attacks on American soil. His vacation continued. On Aug.
17th, the Minneapolis FBI office arrested Zacarias Moussaoui, on the basis
of an expired student visa and very curious pilot training requests. FBI
field agents at this office were convinced of Moussaoui's intentions as a
terrorist, and repeatedly tried to obtain a FISA (Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act) warrant to search his computer. In early Sept., French
Intelligence informed both the CIA and the FBI that Moussaoui had Al Qaeda
connections. A FISA warrant remained ungranted against Moussaoui, even
though under Clinton and Janet Reno no FISA request had been refused.
As an interesting aside, before 9/11 Ashcroft was known to put in 3 1/2 day
work weeks at the Dept. of Justice. In the early months of the
administration, FBI agents flew to Ashcroft's home in rural Missouri to
obtain his signature on a wire-tap for a terrorism investigation. Ashcroft
was so displeased to see the agents, he had them stand out in the cold while
he sat in his pickup to read and sign the documents.
On Sept. 4th, Cheney's counter-terrorism task force met for the first time.
According to the Pentagon's liaison for terrorism, Gen. Kerrik, Clinton's
had met almost weekly, but with Bush he "didn't see that same kind of
focus."
On Sept. 10, Diane Feinstein, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee
briefed on July 5th, asked Dick Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby when
the administration would start focusing on these terror threats which had so
pre-occupied CIA's Tenet, the most severe in decades - she was told it would
have to wait another six months.
So, obviously, it's all Clinton's fault.
Pre-9/11 And The Bush Administration. It's All Clinton's Fault, Right?
by Kent Southard
Dano
Again. I don't consider myself to be a "truther". I'm not saying I have
(or that anyone else DOES have) the answers. I would just like to see the
questions addressed openly and seriously. A true investigation is
desperately needed. If there is any "conspiracy" it is to bury ALL of this.
I'm not saying any individuals in our own government had anything to do with
the attacks themselves...simply that they willfully allowed this to play
out. I also don't buy into any controlled demolition or inside job on the
ground, but I DO find it very hard to believe that the black boxes did not
survive. This whole thing stinks of a massive, deliberate coverup. The
vehement deniers are in a state of self delusion because it is so stunning
to try to grasp the level of deceit and depravity of those that would do
such a thing. It's hard to accept.
Mallard
wrote:
...and we know Bin Laden was in a plane flying out of Somalia towards
Afghanistan and Clinton and Burger failed to act.
Siobhan Medeiros
> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
>
> news:ivudnaR-zNQQHLzW...@giganews.com...
>
>
> > >Most Americans are terrified by the notion that people in our own
> > >government could possibly be that evil. They really couldn't handle
> > >such a "truth".
> > >So it's easier to label those that question as loons and dingbats.
>
> > No, most Americans have better things to do than waste their time on
> > spculative fiction with no basis in fact.
>
> That's all the 9/11 Commision was. But whatever. God forbid there be a
> proper investigation of the most horrific crime ever committed in the Un
> ited States. What are you fools afraid of?
>
> I'm not the one claiming to have all the answers. Be a friggin' sheep. It
> suits you.
And what would qualify as a "proper investigation"? One that told you
want you wanted to hear?
Siobhan Medeiros
> Ouroboros Rex wrote:
> > Dano wrote:
> >> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
> >>news:ivudnaR-zNQQHLzW...@giganews.com...
It HAS been!
> A true investigation is
> desperately needed.
And what would qualify as a "true investigation"? One that told you
what you wanted to hear?
> If there is any "conspiracy" it is to bury ALL of this.
> I'm not saying any individuals in our own government had anything to do with
> the attacks themselves...simply that they willfully allowed this to play
> out. I also don't buy into any controlled demolition or inside job on the
> ground, but I DO find it very hard to believe that the black boxes did not
> survive.
After being buried by thousands of tons of debris? I'd be amazed if
they even FOUND them. Do you know how many hundreds of bodies
remained unfound at the site? If they couldn't find them, how could
they hope to find the black boxes?
> This whole thing stinks of a massive, deliberate coverup.
Suuuurrrrrreeee it does. And why is that, exactly?
> The
> vehement deniers are in a state of self delusion because it is so stunning
> to try to grasp the level of deceit and depravity of those that would do
> such a thing. It's hard to accept.
More likely the truthers have yet to post a single plausible piece of
evidence that remotely supports their conclusion.
Dano
How would you know? You have already decided they are all delusional. I'm
surprised you haven't called for anyone who questions this to be forcibly
committed to mental institutions for reprogramming.
Siobhan Medeiros
> Siobhan Medeiros wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 10:17 am, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> The
> >> vehement deniers are in a state of self delusion because it is so
> >> stunning to try to grasp the level of deceit and depravity of those
> >> that would do such a thing. It's hard to accept.
>
> > More likely the truthers have yet to post a single plausible piece of
> > evidence that remotely supports their conclusion.
>
> How would you know?
Because I've listened to their so-called "evidence".