Re: "Sopranos" rub-out theory gains credence
Jeffy3
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> > On Jun 15, 10:20 am, Agent Smith <agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
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> >> norman mailer-daemon <calcio1...@yahoo.com> wrote > > Now they are
> >> all scrambling to find closure-- to figure out the
> >> > "scam". They cannot understand ambiguity or metaphor. It is
> >> > HILARIOUS to watch this backlash.
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> >> > Good for you, Mr. Chase, for exposing the psuedo-intellectual (the
> >> > typical American).
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> >> You are a pompous narcissist.
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> > I tend to agree, stories that have a beginning and middle are supposed
> > to have an ending. As far as great literature, the only one I can
> > think of that left things hanging was "The Lady or the Tiger" which
> > was the whole point.
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> I neglected to mention that he is hateful, as well. These avant garde
> fruitballs, who think that it's okay to throw away centuries of
> tradition from all the different arts, are no different than human
> wrecking machines.
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> I was reading some sixties poetry by some lesbian author, whose name
> I've forgotten, of the Warhol school, and was struck by something fairly
> obvious about it - that the writer was too lazy to finish it. It could
> have become real poetry, if only the author had the discipline to go
> back over it a few more times and finish polishing it up.
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> There was a critique of the Velvet Underground posted, in a different
> thread, and the writer referred to Warhol's so-called school of art as a
> "circus." I think that criticism is overly-polite. Those people have
> ruined hallowed traditions that have been around almost as long as
> civilization itself, and replaced them with garbage. And if you don't
> like their demolitions, you are insulted and called stupid.
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> They've already wrecked poetry, and let's not allow them to destroy any
> other of the great art forms.- Hide quoted text -
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If you follow the logic of some people, no show has closure unless it
does what Six Feet Under did, which is show you how and when each
character died. What storyline on the Sopranos do they feel wasn't
"wrapped up"? If he was arrested and they didn't show whether he got
convicted or aquitted, is that "wrapped up"? If he got arrested and
then convicted would that be "wrapped up" since it is possible he may
get paroled at some point? If he was sentenced to life in prison, is
that "wrapped up"? Maybe not, because in the future maybe the
conviction will be overturned. If the family went into the witness
protection program, is that "wrapped up"? Maybe not, because maybe,
like Henry Hill, Tony will get kicked out of the program, or maybe he
will leave voluntarily, or someone will track him down.
The whole six seasons wasn't one long story with a beginning, a middle
and end.
Therefore, I don't feel like I was cheated out of an "ending".
Agent Smith
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A feeling of closure is as much a question of tone as it is of plot. I
kind of liked the end of NYPD Blue, where nothing changed at all, except
that Sipowitz was promoted to head of the homicide squad. The way they
ended it was with a sort of feeling that this is how it has always been
and this is how it always will be forever.
The problem with the ending of The Sopranos was not so much that there
was a mystery that needed to be unravelled, to satisfy ourselves that
Tony got whacked, but with the abruptness of the stoppage. A sudden
ending doesn't have the tone necessary for the viewers to satisfy
themselves that what they just saw was truly an ending, rather than just
a collision into a wall.
Jeffy3
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I don't disagree with you on that. I wonder if everything was the
same, including the suspicious guy going to the bathroom, but if the
show faded out slowly with a shot of Tony and his family, if reaction
would be any different.
Agent Smith
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> I don't disagree with you on that. I wonder if everything was the
> same, including the suspicious guy going to the bathroom, but if the
> show faded out slowly with a shot of Tony and his family, if reaction
> would be any different.
Well, that's a good point. If they had just done a standard fade out,
with Tony simply eating with his family, it probably would hav suggested
feelings of domestic tranquility. The people who wanted a Mafia ending,
where somebody got whacked, would probably still have grumbled, but at
least it would have been an ending, instead of a truncation.
Joetheone
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Beat the hell out of opening Xmas presents.
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Hey, I like opening Christmas presents.
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the mob has NEVER wacked a boss
in the presence of his entire nuclear family
Chase, the good gindaloon he is
knows this
va bene
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