Lisa: Marxist World View
Jodi Steinmetz
I like everything about THE SIMPSONS 'cept the commie, jew, fagloving
Lisa. She's got this cramped jew voice and the editors relentlessly
hold her up as a supposed "better Simpson". All unrealising her
circumstance, she has been "educated" to observe Ashkenazi "jewish"
[meaning, actually Turko-Russian] au current conventions and their
Marxist World View. I think we all understand that the Bolchevik
Revolution was 100% a "jewish" invention in Russia, BTW.
The writers are very much cut-in to the whole dynamics, but I wonder
how many young girls watching TS and considering that Lisa's philosophy
is valid, really understand the byplay taking place. In essence, it is
this:
Lisa has adopted wholecloth the failed Marxist World View of Turko
Russian immigrants who came to the US 1890-1935, the ones who currently
style themselves as "jews" and who have vast holdings in American
media. She mouths fairness and equality --all the while sneering at
American values. The culmination and "validation" of Lisa's philosophy
would be: get a Doctorate in Sociology, marry a negroe, and make that
final "evolution" in thought to...become an open lesbian.
So, pitch the dyke-in-training Lisa and get rid of that perverted
cramped, jew-voice driving the Marxist babble she incessantly spouts.
Aaron Varhola
Jodi Steinmetz <JO...@desn.ios.net> wrote:
>I like everything about THE SIMPSONS 'cept the commie
This "person" has never seen 7G13, where Lisa defends capitalism's personal
freedoms against true communist Adil.
>, jew, fagloving
>Lisa. She's got this cramped jew voice
Yeardley Smith is not Jewish. Strike 2.
> and the editors relentlessly
>hold her up as a supposed "better Simpson"
Lisa is a better Simpson, but proper characterization shows her to be a
rich, diverse character, who shows internal contradiction between her love
for her family and her desire to enrich herself. The best Simpsons
episodes show both sides of Lisa, and "Lisa's Wedding"'s main conflict was
Lisa's struggle to reconcile a situation where she had to make a choice
between her desire for a "better life" and the love of her family.
..>All unrealising her
>circumstance, she has been "educated" to observe Ashkenazi "jewish"
>[meaning, actually Turko-Russian] au current conventions
Funny, I thought she was a student at Springfield Elementary School, not
Springfield Yeshiva.
and their
>Marxist World View. I think we all understand that the Bolchevik
>Revolution was 100% a "jewish" invention in Russia, BTW.
I took Russian History in college, and it is decidedly not so. Put down
your Aryan Nation pamphlets and open your eyes, fool.
>Lisa has adopted wholecloth the failed Marxist World View of Turko
>Russian immigrants who came to the US 1890-1935, the ones who currently
>style themselves as "jews" and who have vast holdings in American
>media. She mouths fairness and equality --all the while sneering at
>American values.
"I'm defending a country where people can believe and worship as they
please." -- Lisa, to Adil, in 7G13, "The Crepes of Wrath".
Show me ONE instance where Lisa sneers at American values. Just one. Bet
you can't find what you're looking for, you Aryan fool.
>So, pitch the dyke-in-training Lisa and get rid of that perverted
>cramped, jew-voice driving the Marxist babble she incessantly spouts.
No, pitch you and your failed white supremacist drivel. *plonk*
Aaron Varhola | "From what I've seen of [Rupert] Murdoch's
WIFA Counsel | papers in this country, no self-respecting
YSFC #6 | fish would want to be wrapped in them."
avarhola(at)ix.netcom.com| ---- Mike Royko, 1932-1997
Nate Patrin
st95...@pip.cc.brandeis.edu wrote in article
<5uaaq0$3fb$1...@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu>...
> Who the hell let this person out into the world? It amazes me that
people
> still wonder why there is so much fighting and hatred in teh world.
Here's
> the reason, folks!
> Jason
What boggles me is that the person who posted that was named "Steinmetz".
Irreverent sarcasm or just plain strangeness?
-Nate "What about that rabid socialist, Mr. Burns?" Patrin
Jym Dyer
=o= How's the weather under your bridge, troll?
> Lisa. She's got this cramped jew voice . . .
=o= Next you'll be telling us that Marge's voice is
done by somebody named Brenda Morgenstern. .-. .-.
<_Jym_> / / / /
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Bartman
Hey Hitler - post your pseudo-intellectual drivel over at
alt.nazi.closet.buttboy - I didn't care much for real history in school,
so much the less for your "insider's" "hate"-story. Loser!
(I gotta get me a signature!)
Bartman
Mark R. Voss
In <340C32...@desn.ios.net> Jodi Steinmetz <JO...@desn.ios.net>
writes:
>
>
>Followup on the Marxist, khazar-jewish World View caricatured
>for Lisa Simpson. The writers of THE SIMPSONS are, as always,
>brilliant. They both imbue this au current Marxist view [which
>they esteem an imperfectly --actually deceptively-- educated young
>white girl will have been poisoned with] into Lisa and on the
>other hand the writers shoot holes and poke fun at the hypocrisy
>of this same, deceptive Jew World View. They are clearly having
>fun with it.
>
>The comment: Yeardley Smith just CAN'T be an [Ashkenazi] jew.
>Uh, yeah right. That cramped palatal glot, that coffee coloured
>complexion, that jew-in-a-junkyard physiognomy as well as that
>plainly setforth lineage. Oh, no! I must stand corrected <G>.
>My own ancestor George Yeardley of Salisbury Plain and Jamestown
>would laugh to see the Ashkenazi misappropriating the names of
>white men and women.
>
>Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
>Marxist World View --the same one that masqueraded as "Bolchivek"
>and slaughtered 10 million Russian peasants and 15 million
>Ukrainians in the period 1917-20. I'm assuming all here do under
>stand that NYC soapseller Joseph Schiff underwrote the "Russian
>Revolution" to the tune of $20M in 1916-18. Don't resist the
>proof of the taint of Lisa's mindset. Go to TS episode #885 at
>frame #73,411 where Lisa attempts to substitute "gespatchow" for
>American BBQ. The crowd yell "Go back to Russia, you jew-loving
>lesbian-in-training". [Possibly, I may have completed the unspoken
>thoughts of the crowd, here <G>.]
>
>Or, TS episode #1,505 at frame #23,317 where Pepi --a genuine
>Marxist exchange student is visiting. There Lisa begins to preach
>the relentless Marxist gospel [doubtless instilled in her by a
>paunchy lesbian Ashkenazi "jewess"] to the exchange student. He
>soon corrects her to the real and truly dismal world of Marxism
>in practice. Again, the writers having a field day with it and,
>as always, framing Lisa to the veiled eyes of many differing levels
>of understanding.
>
>Until the govt has perfected a retro-virus to go to work on the
>lesbians in our midst, I'd like to see fewer and more aptly pitched
>caricatures of the muff-diving Ashkenazi. But, I suppose we all
>would do. Yes?
"Uuhhh... What? Huhh.. Uuhh..."
"Heehee heehhmm hhmmhehehhmm ..." "She said 'muff'"!
"Huuhhhuhh Hehehhmmm heheh! Hehhehh! Hhmm!"
(I think I'm in the wrong cartoon newsgroup!)
Honestly, start watching more Itchy & Scratchy cartoons!
- MARK
Jodi Steinmetz
Aaron Varhola
jack...@ix.netcom.com(Mark R. Voss) wrote:
[more nonsense from Jodi Jackass snipped]
>"Uuhhh... What? Huhh.. Uuhh..."
>"Heehee heehhmm hhmmhehehhmm ..." "She said 'muff'"!
>"Huuhhhuhh Hehehhmmm heheh! Hehhehh! Hhmm!"
Methinks she needs some Sun & Run.
Aaron
Michael Patrick Perillo
Jodi
You seemed to have thoroughly confused yourself here. Perhaps your
problem lies in using an anti-semitic world view which no educated person
has believed in since the 1940s.
[Some BS deleted]
> Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
> Marxist World View --the same one that masqueraded as "Bolchivek"
> and slaughtered 10 million Russian peasants and 15 million
> Ukrainians in the period 1917-20. I'm assuming all here do under
> stand that NYC soapseller Joseph Schiff underwrote the "Russian
> Revolution" to the tune of $20M in 1916-18. Don't resist the
> proof of the taint of Lisa's mindset. Go to TS episode #885 at
> frame #73,411 where Lisa attempts to substitute "gespatchow" for
> American BBQ. The crowd yell "Go back to Russia, you jew-loving
> lesbian-in-training". [Possibly, I may have completed the unspoken
> thoughts of the crowd, here <G>.]
Possibly you are entirely missing the point of the episode. The thing
Lisa was trying to say in that episode was that maybe we don't need to eat
so much meat all the time. Now where you draw the line from the Russian
Revolution of 1917 to present day American Vegetarianism is what baffles
me. Further "proof" along this scientific line of logic includes my
shoelaces being irrefutable evidence for the existance of Alien life
forms. Or how about the obvious connection between Australian Aborigines
and the car acccident I witnessed last thur.
[more BS deleted]
> Until the govt has perfected a retro-virus to go to work on the
> lesbians in our midst, I'd like to see fewer and more aptly pitched
> caricatures of the muff-diving Ashkenazi. But, I suppose we all
> would do. Yes?
no
What I can't wait for is the retro-virus designed to attack anti-semitic,
homophobic, white homemakers.
Wow I really hope this just some sad attempt at trolling. Unfortunately
I must face up to the fact that such an incredibly unintelligent person
could exist.
Mike
Billy Goode
Hee hee, hee hee, that dog has a puffy tail!
Bartman
Jodi Steinmetz wrote:
>
I have to marvel with a previous response to this loser - check out this
name: Steinmetz! Yet he belches this racist anti-Semite sewage!
I'm glad I still had this post from before - Hitler has spewed again!
Lee Johnson
On 3 Sep 1997, Michael Patrick Perillo wrote:
>
> Jodi
> You seemed to have thoroughly confused yourself here. Perhaps your
> problem lies in using an anti-semitic world view which no educated person
> has believed in since the 1940s.
>
> [Some BS deleted]
>
> > Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
> > Marxist World View --the same one that masqueraded as "Bolchivek"
> > and slaughtered 10 million Russian peasants and 15 million
> > Ukrainians in the period 1917-20. I'm assuming all here do under
> > stand that NYC soapseller Joseph Schiff underwrote the "Russian
> > Revolution" to the tune of $20M in 1916-18. Don't resist the
> > proof of the taint of Lisa's mindset. Go to TS episode #885 at
> > frame #73,411 where Lisa attempts to substitute "gespatchow" for
> > American BBQ. The crowd yell "Go back to Russia, you jew-loving
> > lesbian-in-training". [Possibly, I may have completed the unspoken
> > thoughts of the crowd, here <G>.]
>
>
> Wow I really hope this just some sad attempt at trolling. Unfortunately
> I must face up to the fact that such an incredibly unintelligent person
> could exist.
>
> Mike
>
Thank you, Mike, for taking on the unpleasant task that most of us knew
needed to be done.
Although I didn't see the entire, original post, the ridiculousness of the
content leads me to believe that this may very well be a troll who is now
giggling away at how she/he has "fooled" us all. But let me reiterate for
the umpteenth time, spouting bigoted garbage in a public forum is a
serious matter that often does real harm to people. It is not funny, and
no one is "fooled" except for the troll who actually thinks s/he is
pulling an amusing prank because s/he is "not really bigoted." Again,
anyone ignorant and insensitive enough to think such things are amusing
is, for all intents and purposes, a bigot despite himself.
And finally, I know that there is a school of thought that says the best
way to deal with trolls is to ignore them: generally, I agree. But, I
believe that this rule of thumb should be superceded by a more important
one: in cases of bigotry, a response of silence is tacit consent.
Lee
ISAAC
Jodi Steinmetz writes:
[racist, ethnocentric drivel mercilessly snipped]
Jodi,
I assume you are a Jew, as that is the ONLY way you could even consider getting
away with what you wrote. I myself am a self-deprecating Jew living in the
land of many of the same, as well as more hyper-sensitive liberals (ok, I go to
Brandeis, nuff said!). I will often joke with my friends about how "we"
control Hollywood (and I will inevitably add, "oh yeah, then where's my cut?")
and other long-held stereotypes of Jews that have often been heard. The few
non-Jews among us (again, I go to Brandeis) occasionally feel a little
uncomfortable. However, we always make it clear that we are joking and being
sarcastic. If that was the effect that you intended (and I sincerely hope that
it was), Usenet is the wrong forum for such sarcasm and biting tone. The
written word cannot possibly convey your intended meaning regarding Lisa and
"muff-diving Ashkenazis" (which, on a personal aside, taken out of context is
downright hilarious!!). If you were sarcastic, or writing as a
self-deprecating Jew (in the same manner that homosexuals can call themselves
"queer," or blacks can call themselves "niggers", but for those outside the
group to do so is taboo), then you should have made that obvious to your
intended audience in some manner. If you were serious, then disregard all of
the preceding and consider this a big FUCK YOU. I hope you weren't serious...
Isaac
Brad Peters
Jodi Steinmetz had posted:
Followup on the Marxist, khazar-jewish World View caricatured
for Lisa Simpson. The writers of THE SIMPSONS are, as always,
brilliant. They both imbue this au current Marxist view [which
they esteem an imperfectly --actually deceptively-- educated young
white girl will have been poisoned with] into Lisa and on the
other hand the writers shoot holes and poke fun at the hypocrisy
of this same, deceptive Jew World View. They are clearly having
fun with it.
The comment: Yeardley Smith just CAN'T be an [Ashkenazi] jew.
Uh, yeah right. That cramped palatal glot, that coffee coloured
complexion, that jew-in-a-junkyard physiognomy as well as that
plainly setforth lineage. Oh, no! I must stand corrected <G>.
My own ancestor George Yeardley of Salisbury Plain and Jamestown
would laugh to see the Ashkenazi misappropriating the names of
white men and women.
Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
Marxist World View --the same one that masqueraded as "Bolchivek"
and slaughtered 10 million Russian peasants and 15 million
Ukrainians in the period 1917-20. I'm assuming all here do under
stand that NYC soapseller Joseph Schiff underwrote the "Russian
Revolution" to the tune of $20M in 1916-18. Don't resist the
proof of the taint of Lisa's mindset. Go to TS episode #885 at
frame #73,411 where Lisa attempts to substitute "gespatchow" for
American BBQ. The crowd yell "Go back to Russia, you jew-loving
lesbian-in-training". [Possibly, I may have completed the unspoken
thoughts of the crowd, here <G>.]
Or, TS episode #1,505 at frame #23,317 where Pepi --a genuine
Marxist exchange student is visiting. There Lisa begins to preach
the relentless Marxist gospel [doubtless instilled in her by a
paunchy lesbian Ashkenazi "jewess"] to the exchange student. He
soon corrects her to the real and truly dismal world of Marxism
in practice. Again, the writers having a field day with it and,
as always, framing Lisa to the veiled eyes of many differing levels
of understanding.
Until the govt has perfected a retro-virus to go to work on the
lesbians in our midst, I'd like to see fewer and more aptly pitched
caricatures of the muff-diving Ashkenazi. But, I suppose we all
would do. Yes?
NO, NO, I don't agree. Why would you think Lisa has ANY "worldview"?
I mean: she's just a cartoon character. And, how can a person sound
jewish? Is there something their to be heard?
And, what do you mean the Russian Bolcheviks were jewish and they
killed millions of peasants? Why would a Wall Street financier and
industrialist funnel money back to hurt people and kill the Czar?
I agree with Bartman. We're hear to watch cartoons, not to study
history. How do you read all this stuff into THE SIMPSONS and why
the particular focus on Lisa? Are you saying that the writers are
using her character as a platform for projecting ideas into kids'
heads and at the same time being coy and mocking about it?
What do you mean calling Lisa a "lesbean in training"? She's too young
to date boys but I think she will be normal, too. She all ready had
a date with that boy Nelson. Are you saying that theere's a subtle
indoctrination from educators and such for a "sophisticated" woman to
prove herself by becoming lesbean and that that somehow is an extension
of these jewish philosophies? That CAN'T BE. It must be nonsense.
I'm not listening anymore.
OzoneBabie
> Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
> Marxist World View --the same one that masqueraded as "Bolchivek"
> and slaughtered 10 million Russian peasants and 15 million
> Ukrainians in the period 1917-20.
If you ever read the anything by Carl Marx or took a single Political
science class, you would know that what happened in Russia and around the
rest of the world was a perversion of what he wanted. Marx wanted an
unrealistic utopia, but they decided to go for something more like a facist
state. (sounds like something you would like)
>Go to TS episode #885 at
> frame #73,411 where Lisa attempts to substitute "gespatchow" for
> American BBQ. The crowd yell "Go back to Russia, you jew-loving
> lesbian-in-training". [Possibly, I may have completed the unspoken
> thoughts of the crowd, here <G>.]
You mean Gespacho? A spanish cold soup? Maybe she wanted to un-clog
everyone's colons from all the meat they were eating. Ever hear of colon
cancer?
And I assume you're a man...its men like you who turn women to lesbians,
so maybe you should re-think your little manifesto...
>a genuine
> Marxist exchange student is visiting. There Lisa begins to preach
> the relentless Marxist gospel [doubtless instilled in her by a
> paunchy lesbian Ashkenazi "jewess"] to the exchange student. He
> soon corrects her to the real and truly dismal world of Marxism
> in practice.
She was defending capitalism and the freedoms provided by the bill or
rights and the constitution. The same pieces of paper that allow you to
write such utter shit on the board, and not get arrested and shot.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lionel Hutz: I move for a bad court thingy
Judge: You mean a mistrial?
Lionel Hutz: Yeah, that's why you're the judge and I'm the law talkin guy
Judge: The lawyer
Lionel Hutz: Right
~~~~~~~~~~~~
David Gehrig
Mark R. Voss wrote:
>
> In <340C32...@desn.ios.net> Jodi Steinmetz <JO...@desn.ios.net>
> writes:
> >
> >
<< Aryan hogwash snipped >>
>
> "Uuhhh... What? Huhh.. Uuhh..."
>
> "Heehee heehhmm hhmmhehehhmm ..." "She said 'muff'"!
>
> "Huuhhhuhh Hehehhmmm heheh! Hehhehh! Hhmm!"
>
>
> Honestly, start watching more Itchy & Scratchy cartoons!
>
> - MARK
Definitely a troll.
Every now and then one of the Brave Aryan Warrion/Losers (BAWL)
escaptes from alt.revisionism, assumes a Jewish-sounding name,
and goes looking for trouble in other newsgroups not as familiar
with their devious ways.
Odds are that "Jodi Steinmetz" is about as Jewish as Luciano
Pavarotti.
@%<
David Gehrig
Mcgbjk
Some ignorant trailer park trash named Jodi wrote:
> Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
> Marxist World View --the same one that masqueraded as "Bolchivek"
> and slaughtered 10 million Russian peasants and 15 million
> Ukrainians in the period 1917-20. I'm assuming all here do under
> stand that NYC soapseller Joseph Schiff underwrote the "Russian
> Revolution" to the tune of $20M in 1916-18. Don't resist the
> proof of the taint of Lisa's mindset. Go to TS episode #885 at
> frame #73,411 where Lisa attempts to substitute "gespatchow" for
> American BBQ. The crowd yell "Go back to Russia, you jew-loving
> lesbian-in-training". [Possibly, I may have completed the unspoken
> thoughts of the crowd, here <G>.]
You are a piece of shit Jodi. Did you know that Jews were oppressed
(SEVERELY) by this same Bolshevik regime? Why do Jews frighten you so
much? Why are you so afraid of people different from you?
> Until the govt has perfected a retro-virus to go to work on the
> lesbians in our midst, I'd like to see fewer and more aptly pitched
> caricatures of the muff-diving Ashkenazi. But, I suppose we all
> would do. Yes?
Fuck you you little shit. You really need to stop spreading your legs for
your brother in that trailer. Get into the real world. Didn't your
parents know that their being brother and sister would produce offspring
such as your self? Incidentally, what do you people do with your urine in
those trailers? surely you don't drink it? Maybe you wash your hair with it?
Come to Brooklyn dear. My friends and I would LOVE to discuss your
cowardly feelings about Jews in person with you.....
Hans Kristian Ruud
In <341091...@ixnay.amspay.champaign.pdnt.com>, David Gehrig wrote:
> Odds are that "Jodi Steinmetz" is about as Jewish as Luciano
> Pavarotti.
"Steinmetz" is a German word meaning (roughly) "Quarry worker".
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tamlin
mcg...@aol.com (Mcgbjk) writes:
>Some ignorant trailer park trash named Jodi wrote:
>> Someone requested "proof" that Lisa espoused the failed jewish
>> Marxist World View
[large snip of ignorant and hateful rhetoric]
Well, I'm new here, but to me this looks like a malicious joke and, if so,
should be ignored as such. If I'm wrong, please clue me, but it sure
seems that way. Answering people like this just gives them more fuel for
the fire.
-Jill.
--
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altruist, activist, dreamer, and doer.
I am Cubby's girl.
Drew Silverstone
I take acception to the comments about Lisa being portrayed as:
a "dyke-in-training", a Bolchivek jew, a communist, in harmony
with the philasophy of the jews who killed millions in Russia,
and etc. What is wrong with Lisa? Nothing. I think the simpsons
writers endow Lisa with the philasophy that they would like to
project into young girls. Who cares if those writers are jewish?
I don't buy into that "Jewish Conspiracy" stuff. There can't be
much truth to that. So, it didn't work in Russia. It can work,
here, if there are more Lisa's to mann the barricades.
Lisa is good. Bart is bad and dumb. Lisa cares about the things
she is told by her schoolteacher must be good. The newspapers
tell us their right and so does TV. I suppose you think "the jews"
are in control and have bought up most of the meedia and that they
project the same Marxist World View? What's Lisa's teachers name,
I can't remember. Miss Hoover. I suppose you'll say that she teaches
with the same, shut-down, unthinking jewish philasophy. She does have
a funny accent and a very dull teaching method, but HOOVER is not
a jewish name, I don't think.
In conclusion, I don't even know what a "marxist world view". Or,
who Marx was and I dono't think he was a jew, was he? It's just a
fun, cartoon show and I don't see how such a simple cartoon program
could be cleverly packaged and subtly pitched so as to imprint
un-American perspectives in the forming minds of young children.
Cant we just watch TV and except it at face value, without all this
need for thinking: whose putting this stuff on, and what values
do they want me believe have merit? I like The SIMPSONS, that's all.
Gordon Charrick
I was kind of hoping the nazis would stay out of the Simpsons group,
but I guess I wish too much.
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will be forwarded to your ISP with a request for action.
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In alt.tv.simpsons Lee Johnson <joh...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
: A follow-up note. I found the original fascist post on Lisa and have
: changed my mind. Jodi is most likely not a troll, but a genuinely and
: deeply disturbed individual. Let's hope he or she stays under that rock
: for the duration of his or her life.
Anyone want to pitch in to buy a bigger rock for her? :-)
Mcgbjk
<HTML>In alt.tv.simpsons Lee Johnson <joh...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
: A follow-up note. I found the original fascist post on Lisa and have
: changed my mind. Jodi is most likely not a troll, but a genuinely and
: deeply disturbed individual. Let's hope he or she stays under that rock
: for the duration of his or her life.
Jodi is a piece of trash. A coward. Blaming all her problems on people
she doesn't even know. How typical of loser Nazis.
Hey Jodi (and all other Nazis): Bring it on! We beat you once, we'll do
it again. Only this time, we will FINISH the job and eliminate each and
every one of you like the viral infection that you are.
Bennie Schikelstein
Quite amusing that others believe they can read into the plot,
characters, and writing of THE SIMPSONS a cunning design by its
[jewish?] writers to inculcate into Lisa a particular "Marxist
-Jewish" mindset. Let's begin to examine this.
THE SIMPSONS is indeed the most sophisticated cartoon show of all
time. And, clearly, it is written --like classic fiction-- to be
understood at many depths and by many levels of intelligence. An
analogy would be ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE. To a child, they are only
a moose and squirrel enjoying interesting hijinks. But, when you begin
to see characters with names and accents and diabolical perspectives
as "Boris and Natasha", a slightly more sophisticated viewer will
quickly see that there's more than meets the eye. I won't delve into
whether Boris and Natasha were supposed to be "Bolchivek jews" but
clearly they were Marxist Russians. Very clearly and VERY funny.
Moving ahead [35 years] to THE SIMPSONS. This show is written at a much
more sophisticated depth than ALL previous cartoons. The only thing on
a par of double entendre and literary device might be the current "faux
cartoon" [TV FUNHOUSE] which is intermittently seen in "shorts" on SAT
NITE LIVE. And, yes, focusing on Lisa, it is evident that the writers
are both: endowing her with a quasi-sincere Politically Correct "world
view" and at the same time they are poking fun at the hypocrisy of this
same world view.
It may go too far [get a life, buddy!] in analyzing the Lisa character
to assert: this is a Marxist-jewish World View. Obviously, the writers
are creating --all with superbly good humor-- a dual character though.
One to be observed by hapless little girls and who may mistakenly
adopt and endorse the Lisa World View; the other to be seen by cynical
adults who see the hypocrisy in the PC World View.
I notice that Conan O'Brian and several of his writers worked on THE
SIMPSONS --as everyone here must realise. And, have to wonder what the
next "stinging indictment" from Ms.Steinmetz might be. Perhaps, that
TRIUMPH The Insult Comic Dog is himself a Russian/Marxist/Bolchivek/Jew
dog who was transplanted from THE SIMPSONS to Conan's show? <G>
Lee Johnson
On 10 Sep 1997, Gordon Charrick wrote:
> In alt.tv.simpsons Lee Johnson <joh...@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote:
> : A follow-up note. I found the original fascist post on Lisa and have
> : changed my mind. Jodi is most likely not a troll, but a genuinely and
> : deeply disturbed individual. Let's hope he or she stays under that rock
> : for the duration of his or her life.
>
> Anyone want to pitch in to buy a bigger rock for her? :-)
>
To tell you the truth, I sincerely feel sorry for such people (seething
over with blind hatred-- for other ethnicities, for themselves, whatever);
but it's just hard to convert pity for them into compassion when they're
hurting other people that way.
Lee
Jarad Benson
You leave little Liza alone. I like the persanality they give her. And
I want my daughter to grow up just like her. That Homer is funny but
hes a Pig. He's a white man and most of them ARE Pigs I've seen.
Lisa reads a lot and she corrects her Dad when he goes off. Whatever
they have Lisa thinking, thats what my Janice is going to think. The
writers may be Jewish and thats good cause they right the truth about
fat, white slobs like Homer. And I'm glad they're girl Liza is smart
enough to correct her fat Dad. Go Lisa IMO.
Lee Johnson
I hope you're right about your Janice. I hope that she, like Lisa, comes
to read a lot and educates herself so that she, like Lisa, will be, by the
age of eight, far less of a racist than you seem to be as an adult.
P.S. Even if you're 'only' trolling, you're still a racist-- just like
your comrade-in-arms, Jodi.
Van Isaac Anderson
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Is this guy serious, or am I reading too much into this?
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Doc Quack
On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Jarad Benson wrote:
>
> You leave little Liza alone. I like the persanality they give her. And
> I want my daughter to grow up just like her. That Homer is funny but
> hes a Pig. He's a white man and most of them ARE Pigs I've seen.
>
> Lisa reads a lot and she corrects her Dad when he goes off. Whatever
> they have Lisa thinking, thats what my Janice is going to think. The
> writers may be Jewish and thats good cause they right the truth about
> fat, white slobs like Homer. And I'm glad they're girl Liza is smart
> enough to correct her fat Dad. Go Lisa IMO.
>
Something is wrong with your tv set. Homer is yellow on all of the color sets
I've seen.
Still, you're a racist pig, or a racist troll, so who cares.
Doc
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>
>Something is wrong with your tv set. Homer is yellow on all of the color sets
>I've seen.
>
>Still, you're a racist pig, or a racist troll, so who cares.
>
Okay, let's all have an open mind here. RACE is bullshit. It
is a social construct that has nothing to with reality. What I mean by
this, is, that so-called "white" people, "black" people, or whatever,
are identified by purely physiogenic characteristics that have nothing
to do (necessarily) with what "race" they belong to. To even attempt
to identify everyone by these traits is a big fat waste of time, and
neglects the truth that we all have the same basic genetic structure,
and so skin color, eye color, thickness of lips or shapes of eyelids
really mean nothing when it comes to realizing that we are all humans,
that belong to ONLY ONE human race. So there. And if everything is
racist, then nothing is racist.
Michael Deane
Who asked you? big nose!
? the platypus {aka David Formosa}
>Quite amusing that others believe they can read into the plot,
>characters, and writing of THE SIMPSONS a cunning design by its
>[jewish?] writers to inculcate into Lisa a particular "Marxist
>-Jewish" mindset. Let's begin to examine this.
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I'm sorry but I just don't consider 'because its yucky' a convincing argument
Kelsey Goldman
Jodie Steinmetz posted about a "marxist world view".
What is this nonsense about the daughter Lisa having a
"marxist world view" and what are you saying that this has
its origins in "jewish bolchevism"? I've never heard of
that before; and I have a Masters in Sociology.
I guess you're delineating between the jewish race and
ideology of TS's writers and the parodied philosophy that
they are humerously projecting into the daughter Lisa.
That they understand that their own grandparents were Russian
origined self-styled "jews" who had fomented death and
revolution in Russia then Germany. And, that they are
cleverly parodying this "marxist world view" into the
character Lisa. At once, easily deluding innocent young
white girls that this failed world view has validity which
they should care to adopt; and at the same instant the
writers subtly illuminating the hypocrisy and anti-white
bias in this same Eastern European "jewish" mindset.
If this is true, then I and so many Gen-Xer's have been
lamely or completely uneducated. My major professor at
Brandeis [that's not a Russian "jewish" name is it],
Adele Lipshitz, would not purposively have deleted any
truly integral information from my curriculum. Sure, she
did have me study "human contact" in lesbian bathhouses
but I assumed that was only an extension of liberal views
which I picked up from the culture. Your postings on this
"marxist world view" are confusing to me. They would put
forth the notion that even entertainment media has as
its first interest a mission to indoctrinate alien and
un-American world views into the consciousness of white
children. I will have to think about this. I am beginning
to see "Lisa" now as a marxist-jewish construct and not
only just a cartoon character.
Lee Johnson
Though it grieves me to have to bother, let me just make it clear to those
who might be taking this sort of thing at face value:
We've got some sort of pathetic fascist (or pseudo-fascist troll-- same
thing) trying to "infiltrate" alt.tv.simpsons. He/she made his/her recent,
glorious debut under the name of Jodi Steinmetz, in which he/she/it laid
out its sick ideas (mostly perverted ramblings extracted from the
scribblings of Koestler, Wexler, and Arendt). Then, in a move of sheer
strategic genius, it then thought it would be clever/amusing/sexually
stimulating to pretend to reply to this original post under various
aliases, so as to further denigrate Semitic and homosexual people "from
the other side," so to speak. It has pretended to be a chauvinistic,
Jewish parent, fighting bigotry with more bigotry; a redneck homophobe,
identifying various Simpsons characters as gay; and now, under the name of
Kelsey Goldman, it is pretending to be some sort of clueless Brandeis
student, an impersonation designed to somehow illustrate the original
anti-Semitic, homophobic arguments. Whatever the actual orientation,
ethnicity or identity of this person, this is clearly a sick and deranged
individual: just the sort of pathetic, cowardly weakling who probably
would have been one of the first to go in the Fourth Reich for which
he/she/it nostalgiacally yearns.
Lee
Lee Johnson
Though it grieves me to have to bother, let me just make it clear to those
who might be taking this sort of thing at face value:
We've got some sort of pathetic fascist (or pseudo-fascist troll-- same
thing) trying to "infiltrate" alt.tv.simpsons. He/she made his/her recent,
glorious debut under the name of Jodi Steinmetz, in which he/she/it laid
out its sick ideas (mostly perverted ramblings extracted from the
scribblings of Koestler, Wexler, and Arendt). Then, in a move of sheer
strategic genius, it then thought it would be clever/amusing/sexually
stimulating to pretend to reply to this original post under various
aliases, so as to further denigrate Semitic and homosexual people "from
the other side," so to speak. It has pretended to be a chauvinistic,
Jewish parent, fighting bigotry with more bigotry; a redneck homophobe,
identifying various Simpsons characters as gay; and now, under the name of
Kelsey Goldman, it is pretending to be some sort of clueless Brandeis
alumna, an impersonation designed to somehow illustrate the original
TCook75642
>What do you mean calling Lisa a "lesbean in training"? She's too young
>to date boys but I think she will be normal, too. She all ready had
>a date with that boy Nelson.
And the fortune teller in the forest had her marrying a British guy...
David Gehrig
Bennie Schikelstein wrote:
>
<< Aryan wankery snipped >>
In the last couple months, this bad boy has been, at least:
Ruth Ross
Aaron Rubin
Lori Steinmetz
Debi Blinder
Ruth Feingold
Joanna Schiff
Joel Fisher
Daniel Glickstein
@%<
st95...@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Oh this is wonderful. I haven't been following this thread very closely,
and ow I find out someone's pretending to be from Brandeis? I am a junior
at Brandeis (and if you have any doubts, take a look at my email address...
and if this doesn't convince you, well, I'm just sorry) and I had posted
a message way back in this thread, and yes, it was insulting the original
post. I have been reading this newsgroup for over a year, and have only seen
one other person who is actually from the shcool on here (so far). Don't
get the wrong idea about the school from some schmuck (and you doubted me?)...Brandeis may have it's problems, but one of them is certainly not closeminded
stuudents! Now if he gets on here and says he likes the food here, well,
then we're just all in trouble. Sorry to digress from the Simpsons, but
I have to defend my school.
Jason
TCook75642
>Hey Jodi (and all other Nazis): Bring it on! We beat you once, we'll do
>it again. Only this time, we will FINISH the job and eliminate each and
>every one of you like the viral infection that you are.
I don't doubt your genuine anger, but this sounds disturbingly
Nazi...let's be careful that we don't become too much like our enemies.
Janet Fisher
The "world view" that the writers have given Lisa doesn't have
to be marxist to be superior to the [absence of a] world view
that Homer [does NOT] has. He barely is given a "Springfield view".
BTW, Springfield is clearly in the old "NorthWest territories"
and obviously in that domain where Rev War service accorded
"Bounty Land Warrants". It could only be in OHIO.
BIG-MAX
Your point being?
Doesn't that make her a gay? ;-)
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Bretskey wrote in article <19970921040...@ladder02.news.aol.com>..
.
>>>>What do you mean calling Lisa a "lesbean in training"? She's too young
>>>>to date boys but I think she will be normal, too. She all ready had
>>>>a date with that boy Nelson.
>>>
>>>And the fortune teller in the forest had her marrying a British g
>
>What the hell is a lesbean? Does that mean she would like fewer beans?
>
It's a type of guitar. It's the Les Paul's lower priced equivalent. Kind
of like the Fender Squier.
Duh.
Shira Silberstein
As a jewess, I will admit that my grandparents were indeed Russian
and were of course marxist-bolcheviks. And, we turko-russians who
style ourselves as "jews" have traditionally had the sort of world view
that the writers have playact-invested into the Lisa character.
All this should readily be seen and only be of passing interest here.
On the other hand, I am very amused that the "self-annointed protectors
of PC" in this Forum pass without comment on posts such as "That Fat
Little German". I fully understand that the media has worked overtime
to villify the white man and esp the German white man. So, very
very understandable that no word is ever breathed against the
relentless character assassination of Germans. Compare that header
with such a post header as might be run "That Swarthy Little Jew".
The relentless denigration of whites is encouraged; the real world
discussion --even in a humerous vein-- of jews is shunned. We all
know the reasons for this.
Bretskey
Ralph Wiggum
Let's see Lisa began by going out with Ralph Wiggum on Valentines.
Then, she dated Nelson. Oh, I forgot she married the British guy.
And, she had the crush on the jew substitute teacher, too.
None of this, in action, puts in motion the "marxist world view".
Lisa goes to a Christian church. The marxist would scorn and revile
Christianity. The jewish-marxist would do things like: picket businesses
owned by whites. Lisa, in the Malibu Stacy episode, did picket and
protest. Hmm. The supposedly "valuable" attributes she enumerated for
her new "Stacy" doll encompassed it is true strictly jewish-marxist-
lesbian "values" [the wisdom of Gertrude Stein,etc].
The extended marxist-jewish world view would also comprehend:
lip service to "environmental issues"; a faux-interest in the "rights
of minorities"; but mostly the relentless put-down of white men and
esp German white men. Her dentist was caricatured as the archetypical
evil controlling German man. Hmmm.
Well, it's all a clever parody with THE SIMPSONS writers. I could never
manage that sort of double entendre in my own writing. So, let's just
take it all at face value and enjoy the coming new season. Yes?
Christopher M Hoppe
On Sun, 21 Sep 1997 15:10:21 -0600, Ralph Wiggum <Po...@simp.net> wrote:
> [Yadda, Yadda, Yadda]
Hey guys,
For the sake of this ng... Please Don't Feed the Trolls!!!!
-Chris "Hoping this will die eventually" Hoppe
C'mon everyone let's go watch the Premeire!!!
Lee Johnson
On Sun, 21 Sep 1997, the so-called Shira Silberstein wrote:
> As a jewess, I will admit that my grandparents...
Confused hatemongering snipped.
> relentless character assassination of Germans. Compare that header
> with such a post header as might be run "That Swarthy Little Jew".
> The relentless denigration of whites is encouraged; the real world
> discussion --even in a humerous vein-- of jews is shunned. We all
> know the reasons for this.
>
>
This time you couldn't even keep up the facade: halfway through your
fake post, your hatred and stupidity caught up with you and you fell
right out of character, boiling over with your true, fascistic colors
showing plainly. Or is it just that your own psyche is starting to
disintegrate? I told you that you should watch out: if you fascists post
enough messages under the aliases of your "enemies," you're likely to come
full circle and end up where you started: hating yourself.
Lee
TCook75642
>I predict Lisa WILL be swayed by the winds of political correctness.
Lisa does have a heart, she will be a socialist in youth.
But she also has a brain, which means she'll become liberal with age. (and
I mean a liberal that believes in liberty, not one who is really a
socialist but is too ashamed to say so).
Andrew Gill
TCook75642 <tcook...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19970922222...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
> Lisa does have a heart, she will be a socialist in youth.
>
> But she also has a brain, which means she'll become liberal with age.
(and
> I mean a liberal that believes in liberty, not one who is really a
> socialist but is too ashamed to say so).
Ah. A libertarian.
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Lisa doesn't have 1 dimenional catch phrases. She has one-dimensional
characterization to do that for her.
Steve Hayden
Am following the Lisa Marxist and Lisa Sucks threads. She is more of
a flashpoint for controversy than other Simpson characters. Several
conferees consider that her character is being brought along by
"jewish marxist Bolchevik" writers. The other objections [Lisa Sucks]
that she is "too much of a bitch" character. I wonder if both these
schools aren't really a restatement of the same objections? Homer may
have said it best in critique of the ZIGGY cartoon strip, "Ziggy
has just become too preachy".
abirner
Steve Hayden wrote:
Lisa is my favorite Simpsons character and I don't think she is
"preachy". It only seems so, because all the others are far on the other
side of the scale: they are very indifferent to and uninterested in
"important issues".
And what's that about Lisa having a marxist world view?! If one is
against pure, unhindered and therefore unjust capitalism he is nout
automatically a marxist. What I want, and what is supported by Lisas
speeches, is a new system of living, working and gouverning that provides
freedom and economical justice.
Bye,
Arno Birner
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