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Matthew Garvey

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May 5, 2013, 9:19:33 PM5/5/13
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Ho hum. Moe reinvents himself/has a shot at success again. Bart and
Abe's story was kind of interesting, probably more deserving of a main
plot (here barely getting any time to grow), and Lisa's was shorter
than some unrelated first acts. Just as well for how believeable the
holograms were. (Kind of interesting in a meta way that Ron Taylor is
himself dead now, so the show's basically doing the same sort of
stunt!) Back to Moe: the suicide angle was probably the most
interesting, but it barely showed up (and the ending was pretty oddly
timed). Maybe I'm feeling less charitable because of the damn car race
delay, but while individual moments here weren't too bad, it didn't
really seem to work all together.

(Interesting that there were a fair number of references to old stuff,
though. Bart's prank calls, Bleeding Gums, the Capital City song, the
use of inappropriate hold music...)


Previous episode stuff
7G06+: Bleeding Gums Murphy (and Lisa's song)
7F05+: Capital City song
HABF22: Moe's got "herringbone" eyes similar to Marge's hazel
8F08: Flaming Moe is on the list of Moe-themed drinks at the party

This bewilders me
Lady Di says in the hologram ad: "When I watch a DVD it's got to be
Blu-ray!" Why do people seem to think that Blu-ray is a subset of DVD?
I keep hearing that, often with the wording "[on] Blu-ray DVD". This
is just silly.

Opening
This is a new one, mostly. After a regular clouds-driveway-couch short
opening, there was no TV! Why on earth? (The episode certainly wasn't
running long!) The created/developed by credits ran with the rest of
them. Last week (RABF11) we had a similar thing but it was already
nonstandard with the clouds-to-couch cut. It's almost as if the
producers, having tired of things to vary in the new opening elements
(Ralph, billboard, what flies across the title, etc.), are just using
every damn combination of intro elements they can think of.


And finally
For whatever reason, the NASCAR race this afternoon ran four hours
long, and here in Eastern Time it wrapped up and made way for the new
Simpsons at 8:25 pm, skipping both the Simpsons repeat (RABF07) and a
NEW Cleveland Show (Of Lice and Men). Could someone in the west fill
me in on what you get?

Matthew Garvey

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May 5, 2013, 9:48:50 PM5/5/13
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On May 5, 9:19 pm, Matthew Garvey <mx...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
> HABF22: Moe's got "herringbone" eyes similar to Marge's hazel
Oops, JABF22.

Wiseguy

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May 6, 2013, 11:50:26 AM5/6/13
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Matthew Garvey <mx...@po.cwru.edu> wrote in news:89a8e271-5ab9-429b-8465-
ffe39f...@e13g2000yqp.googlegroups.com:

> Ho hum. Moe reinvents himself/has a shot at success again. Bart and
> Abe's story was kind of interesting, probably more deserving of a main
> plot (here barely getting any time to grow), and Lisa's was shorter
> than some unrelated first acts. Just as well for how believeable the
> holograms were. (Kind of interesting in a meta way that Ron Taylor is
> himself dead now, so the show's basically doing the same sort of
> stunt!) Back to Moe: the suicide angle was probably the most
> interesting, but it barely showed up (and the ending was pretty oddly
> timed). Maybe I'm feeling less charitable because of the damn car race
> delay, but while individual moments here weren't too bad, it didn't
> really seem to work all together.
>

That's fair. Blame an episode itself for a broadcasting delay.
Still waiting to read your script for a perfect episode that includes a
hundred "references" to past episodes that you love to compile but at the
same time not repeat any plot point from the past 527 episodes.

> (Interesting that there were a fair number of references to old stuff,
> though. Bart's prank calls, Bleeding Gums, the Capital City song, the
> use of inappropriate hold music...)
>
>
> Previous episode stuff
> 7G06+: Bleeding Gums Murphy (and Lisa's song)
> 7F05+: Capital City song
> HABF22: Moe's got "herringbone" eyes similar to Marge's hazel
> 8F08: Flaming Moe is on the list of Moe-themed drinks at the party
>
> This bewilders me
> Lady Di says in the hologram ad: "When I watch a DVD it's got to be
> Blu-ray!" Why do people seem to think that Blu-ray is a subset of DVD?
> I keep hearing that, often with the wording "[on] Blu-ray DVD". This
> is just silly.
>

DVD can mean Digital Video Disc. A Blu-ray is technically also a digital
video disc. DVDs came first. A Blu-ray is an improvement of that
technology. Both are readily available. What's silly about it?

> Opening
> This is a new one, mostly. After a regular clouds-driveway-couch short
> opening, there was no TV! Why on earth?

Because that's the way they wanted to do it. When you create your better-
than-Simpsons series you can do it your way too.

> (The episode certainly wasn't
> running long!) The created/developed by credits ran with the rest of
> them. Last week (RABF11) we had a similar thing but it was already
> nonstandard with the clouds-to-couch cut.

You mean "Last week ("Pulpit Friction" RABF11) we had..."

> It's almost as if the
> producers, having tired of things to vary in the new opening elements
> (Ralph, billboard, what flies across the title, etc.), are just using
> every damn combination of intro elements they can think of.
>
>

You complain if they do things the same as past episodes ("Ho hum. Moe
reinvents himself/has a shot at success again.") You complain if they do
things differently ("This is a new one, mostly. After a regular clouds-
driveway-couch short opening, there was no TV! Why on earth?") The
operative word here is "complain."

> And finally
> For whatever reason, the NASCAR race this afternoon ran four hours
> long, and here in Eastern Time it wrapped up and made way for the new
> Simpsons at 8:25 pm, skipping both the Simpsons repeat (RABF07) and a
> NEW Cleveland Show (Of Lice and Men). Could someone in the west fill
> me in on what you get?
>

Why refer to Simpsons by production number and Cleveland Show by title?

Wiseguy

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May 6, 2013, 11:56:10 AM5/6/13
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Matthew Garvey <mx...@case.edu> wrote in news:e2eb12ef-db72-4fd9-bf4c-
1bd334...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> On May 5, 9:19 pm, Matthew Garvey <mx...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
>> HABF22: Moe's got "herringbone" eyes similar to Marge's hazel
> Oops, JABF22.
>

If you had given the titles, a typo wouldn't have been that big a deal.

Matthew Garvey

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May 6, 2013, 10:19:32 PM5/6/13
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On May 6, 11:50 am, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > This bewilders me
> > Lady Di says in the hologram ad: "When I watch a DVD it's got to be
> > Blu-ray!" Why do people seem to think that Blu-ray is a subset of DVD?
> > I keep hearing that, often with the wording "[on] Blu-ray DVD". This
> > is just silly.
>
> DVD can mean Digital Video Disc.  A Blu-ray is technically also a digital
> video disc.   DVDs came first.  A Blu-ray is an improvement of that
> technology. Both are readily available. What's silly about it?

Skipping over the Video/Versatile quagmire...

It is all three of those words, but that doesn't mean it's a DVD
physically or in software. It's no less compact than a CD - does that
make it a compact disc? It's read with a laser - does that make it a
laserdisc or laservision? It's also a high definition digital v__
disc. So it's HD-DVD too?

Nowhere on a BD package does it identify as a DVD unless there is a
DVD included as well. That's because it's not one. I suppose a certain
casual blending is acceptable, if still silly. I wouldn't leap at
someone for pointing out a shelf of one's home video purchases as "my
DVDs" if there are some Blu-rays mixed in. I take certain usages as
intentionally funny thanks to incorrectness such as in a Community
episode where a foreign exchange student notices that Abed has a
Kickpuncher movie "on Blu-ray DVD!" (or DVD Blu-ray, I forget).

There's no way, though, that an advertisement like the one seen would
(or should, anyway) make that confusion, especially if it's actually
for the format and not a store that's selling them. They often even go
out of their way to use the exactly correct brand terms (Blu-ray Disc
doesn't really roll off the tongue but it's usually in there
somewhere). I find it pretty silly that a video store sticker
identified a recent purchase of mine with both terms, and that's just
the sort of usage I'm griping about.


>
> > Opening
> > This is a new one, mostly. After a regular clouds-driveway-couch short
> > opening, there was no TV! Why on earth?
>
> Because that's the way they wanted to do it.

That doesn't really answer "why". (A better question might be who made
that happen.) Last week it actually made some sense, since the couch
gag blended into act 1. Here it was like a time-saving measure when no
time needed to be saved at all.


> > And finally
> > For whatever reason, the NASCAR race this afternoon ran four hours
> > long, and here in Eastern Time it wrapped up and made way for the new
> > Simpsons at 8:25 pm, skipping both the Simpsons repeat (RABF07) and a
> > NEW Cleveland Show (Of Lice and Men). Could someone in the west fill
> > me in on what you get?
>
> Why refer to Simpsons by production number and Cleveland Show by title?

TO BUG YOU.

For what it's worth, Don Del Grande tells me that the west got the
Simpsons repeat and a Cleveland Show repeat as well (so the new
episode was shelved for everyone).

Wiseguy

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May 6, 2013, 11:50:20 AM5/6/13
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Matthew Garvey <mx...@case.edu> wrote in news:e2eb12ef-db72-4fd9-bf4c-
1bd334...@v14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com:

> On May 5, 9:19�pm, Matthew Garvey <mx...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
>> HABF22: Moe's got "herringbone" eyes similar to Marge's hazel
> Oops, JABF22.
>

Wiseguy

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May 9, 2013, 11:41:11 AM5/9/13
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Matthew Garvey <mx...@case.edu> wrote in news:00508c53-9af0-49d6-b76e-
f8e3e3...@w8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com:
Blu-ray is simply the name of the format that won. Essentially it is
similar to a HD-DVD. You'd have no problem with that format being
called a DVD?

They're more similar than a Beta and VHS tapes but both of those are
still videotapes.

Anyway, for a five-second bit on a TV series, it's too much to make a
big deal about unless you're anally-obsessed.

>>
>> > Opening
>> > This is a new one, mostly. After a regular clouds-driveway-couch
short
>> > opening, there was no TV! Why on earth?
>>
>> Because that's the way they wanted to do it.
>
> That doesn't really answer "why". (A better question might be who made
> that happen.) Last week it actually made some sense, since the couch
> gag blended into act 1. Here it was like a time-saving measure when no
> time needed to be saved at all.
>
>

There can be several theories about why it was done and who was
responsible. Does it matter? Do you need to see the TV for closure?


>> > And finally
>> > For whatever reason, the NASCAR race this afternoon ran four hours
>> > long, and here in Eastern Time it wrapped up and made way for the
new
>> > Simpsons at 8:25 pm, skipping both the Simpsons repeat (RABF07) and
a
>> > NEW Cleveland Show (Of Lice and Men). Could someone in the west
fill
>> > me in on what you get?
>>
>> Why refer to Simpsons by production number and Cleveland Show by
title?
>
> TO BUG YOU.
>
> For what it's worth, Don Del Grande tells me that the west got the
> Simpsons repeat and a Cleveland Show repeat as well (so the new
> episode was shelved for everyone).
>

The only thing that "bugs" me is why someone who wants to impart
information about an episode would intentionally withhold probably the
most important information regarding the identification of said episode-
the title. Everywhere else in the universe of information of television
(books, internet, etc.) the title is the basic information given to
identify an episode. Everyone knows this. Everyone else gives titles.
And more people than myself have said this.

The only reason you don't is because you think it makes you look
intellectually superior and you like to be smug about it.

The reason you don't give The Cleveland Show's production number is
either you're not anally fanatic about that series or you're too lazy to
look it up to be consistent...a quality of "real" writers.

The Doctor (as portrayed by Matt Smith)

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May 10, 2013, 2:59:29 AM5/10/13
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On Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:41:11 AM UTC-4, Wiseguy wrote:
> Matthew Garvey <mx...@case.edu> wrote in news:00508c53-9af0-49d6-b76e-


> Anyway, for a five-second bit on a TV series, it's too much to make a
> big deal about unless you're anally-obsessed.

Remember that KKKrazy televangelist that tried to get Mighty Mouse cancelled based on TWO seconds taken out of context?

Captain Infinity

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May 16, 2013, 8:06:08 PM5/16/13
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Once Upon A Time,
OK, that's it, Matt! You're cut!



**
Captain Infinity

Mr. Museum

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May 17, 2013, 7:39:49 PM5/17/13
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One of the shows that Marge wants to erase is "Admiral Baby".

Lenny and Carl were holding hands when they were standing up in the limo and looking out the sunroof.

The backyard setup was from "Mousetrap".

Mr. Museum
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