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Alexander Forst  
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 More options Feb 22 1993, 8:37 am
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From: a...@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Forst)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 13:37:40 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 22 1993 8:37 am
Subject: [9F11], [9F14] Selma's Lizard
In [9F11] Selma's got a lizard (don't know another name for this animal)
instead of a child.

It's name (something like "Jubjub") comes from the verse

        "The Hunting of The Snark"

by Lewis Carroll (the author of "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland").

it goes like this:

...
        "'Tis the voice of the Jubjub!" he suddenly cried.
        (this man, that they used to call "Dunce".)
        "As the Bellman would tell you." he added with pride,
        "I have uttered that sentiment once."

        "'Tis the note of the Jubjub! Keep count, I entreat.
        You will find I have told it you twice.
        'Tis the song of the Jubjub! The proof is complete.
        If only I've stated it thrice."
...

Just in case that nobody knows what a "Snark" is, in the last verse
there is written:

        In the midst of the word he was trying to say,
        In the midst o his laughter and glee,
        He had softly and suddenly vanished away -
        For the Snark was a Boojum, you see.
                            ^^^^^^
...you don't know what *that* is?  :-)

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Marc Bennett Hirsh  
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 More options Feb 22 1993, 3:13 pm
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From: m...@owlnet.rice.edu (Marc Bennett Hirsh)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1993 20:13:36 GMT
Local: Mon, Feb 22 1993 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: [9F11], [9F14] Selma's Lizard
In article <1993Feb22.133740.15...@email.tuwien.ac.at>, a...@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Forst) writes:
|> In [9F11] Selma's got a lizard (don't know another name for this animal)
|> instead of a child.
|>
|> It's name (something like "Jubjub") comes from the verse
|>
|>   "The Hunting of The Snark"
|>
|> by Lewis Carroll (the author of "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland").

I believe "Jabberwocky" came first, as it was part of _Through_The_Looking_
Glass_. Second verse:

"Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
 The teeth that bite, the claws that catch!
 Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
 The frumious Bandersnatch!"

|> Just in case that nobody knows what a "Snark" is, in the last verse
|> there is written:

First of all, give us warnings before you're going to spoil the end of
one of the great (mock) epic poems of the English language, okay? Second,
the rest of poem should make it clear enough what a snark is. I'd recommend
that folks who are curious read the poem, although you know the ending by
now.
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Jacob Solomon Weinstein  
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 More options Feb 23 1993, 12:06 pm
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From: jac...@ernie.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein)
Date: 23 Feb 93 17:06:07 GMT
Local: Tues, Feb 23 1993 12:06 pm
Subject: Re: [9F11], [9F14] Selma's Lizard
In article <1993Feb22.133740.15...@email.tuwien.ac.at> a...@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Forst) writes:

Well, you're right, but Jubjub also appeared in _Through
The Looking Glass_, in Carroll's classic poem "Jabberwocky":

        Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
        The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
        Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
        The frumious Bandersnatch!      

"Jabberwocky" was based on a poem that Carroll wrote when he was a
teenager, so I would suggest that this is where Jubjub comes from
originally, not "The Hunting of the Snark."

I know, I know, it's an anal point, but I'm a big Lewis Carroll fan, and
I had to point it out.


 
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