Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire
KEB
Gotta say the best part of the Ep was Blair's hat. GM looks exactly like a
cocker spaniel. And the music was cool. And Deborah didn't have any
particular chemistry with Jim, but she was one of the less obnoxious BOTW's.
Still gotta say I hate Sam's practical joke. long hair and fireflares are not
a good combination. But I liked the way Jim totally froze until he saw Blair
was ok.
The Chopec Warrior Princess
Words of Wisdom: Experience is something you don't get until just after you
needed it.
Trillseekr
(KEB) writes:
>Still gotta say I hate Sam's practical joke. long hair and fireflares are
>not
>a good combination. But I liked the way Jim totally froze until he saw Blair
>was ok.
>
I can't believe Sam didn't get some kind of lecture about not letting personal
feelings influence her work behavior...that was SO uncool to endanger somebody
like that.
Trilly
"Hate is the safe expression of fear"
cmshaw@i_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_nntp_inews_domain
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>Gotta say the best part of the Ep was Blair's hat.
...and jim's reaction to the hat, which was one of those adorable grins.
haven't gotten my tape of this ep from iffer yet (one more month until
my apartment complex gets sci-fi!) but i do recall some memorable
lines...this one had the "how's your beautiful wife?" "much better now
that she's divorced me and moved to san francisco, thanks," exchange,
right? and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way", which is exactly
how i was thinking of detective kate lockley from "angel" last night.
come to think of it, "angel" is shaping up into some nice crossover
potential, isn't it?
cmshaw
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ZAguilera
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>haven't gotten my tape of this ep from iffer yet (one more month until
>my apartment complex gets sci-fi!) but i do recall some memorable
>lines...this one had the "how's your beautiful wife?" "much better now
>that she's divorced me and moved to san francisco, thanks," exchange,
>right? and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way", which is exactly
>how i was thinking of detective kate lockley from "angel" last night.
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>potential, isn't it?
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>cmshaw
>--
Eh, this episode was okay. The only part I really liked was the Blair hat part
and the weird looks Jim got when he mentioned Dr. Zogs sex wax. As for a
Sentinel/Angel crossover, that works. Especially if it's slash.
Angel/Doyle=yum. But then I'm biased.
Zenia
margot...@my-deja.com
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> my apartment complex gets sci-fi!) but i do recall some memorable
> lines...this one had the "how's your beautiful wife?" "much better now
> that she's divorced me and moved to san francisco, thanks," exchange,
> right? and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way", which is exactly
> how i was thinking of detective kate lockley from "angel" last night.
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> potential, isn't it?
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> cmshaw
> --
> ** for obvious reasons, you can't use the email in the headers **
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looking hat.
An Angel/Sentinal crossover has possibilities - Jim would be driving
himself crazy trying to figure out why there was no heartbeat when he
was around Angel (I expect some denial of the concept of vampires) and
Blair would just be plain facinated.
Margot
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Before you buy.
cmshaw@i_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_nntp_inews_domain
>In article <3829d...@nntp.okinfo.net>,
> cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN () wrote:
>>
>> and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way", which is exactly
>> how i was thinking of detective kate lockley from "angel" last night.
>> come to think of it, "angel" is shaping up into some nice crossover
>> potential, isn't it?
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>himself crazy trying to figure out why there was no heartbeat when he
>was around Angel (I expect some denial of the concept of vampires) and
>Blair would just be plain facinated.
t'heck with angel. jim would probably hate him just on general
vigilante principles alone. i want jim to meet kate and doyle, and for
cordelia to run roughshod over him until blair comes to his rescue. <g>
the amusing disbelief in vampires would come, imho, from poor simon. by
this point i would *hope* that if blair said, "jim, that's a vampire,"
jim would reply, "okay, but i'm not wearing garlic, chief, because it
makes me sneeze too."
here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
human/demon crosses are genetically feasible: what if sentinels and/or
guides are actually *not* full humans? (we still know nothing about
jim's mom or blair's dad!)
--cmshaw
DawnC
LOL! Pit Bulls *are* cute :-)
-DawnC-
ZAguilera
>human/demon crosses are genetically feasible: what if sentinels and/or
>guides are actually *not* full humans? (we still know nothing about
>jim's mom or blair's dad!)
>
>--cmshaw
Now that's an interesting thought. I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
hybrid. Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon? Naomi, sure, it's
all about the love. Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.
Zenia
Trillseekr
cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN () writes:
>here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
>human/demon crosses are genetically feasible: what if sentinels and/or
>guides are actually *not* full humans? (we still know nothing about
>jim's mom or blair's dad!)
<snickering> And if this were the X-Files, Jim's mom and Blair's dad could
have been the same person....(remember those sex-changing aliens?)
Trillseekr
(ZAguilera) writes:
>Now that's an interesting thought. I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
>hybrid. Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon? Naomi, sure,
>it's all about the love. Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.
>
Wait a minute, remember, human/ANGEL crossbreeds are possible too...and
wouldn't it be interesting to see how they relate to human/demon crossbreeds?
:) Funny, nobody ever talks about anything except human/demon...not on tv, not
in Xanth....<big dramatic sigh> Well there are constant references in Sendom
to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think. So what if Naomi had
*that* sort of visitation some night? LOL Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna get
struck down for this...<watching the sky>
Blair Kennedy
Trillseekr wrote in message
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>Well there are constant references in Sendom to 'Angel Blair', referring to
his >appearance, I think. So what if Naomi had *that* sort of visitation
some night? LOL >Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna get struck down for
this...<watching the sky>
Or maybe she was visited by the big guy himself? I can see it all coming
back to Blair while he's touring with a roadshow production of "Jesus Christ
Superstar" after he got the boot from Rainier. Della Reese, as Mary
Magdalene, is on hand for support.
BTW, hi guys, I've missed you!
--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield, who's looking for an industrial strength lighting
rod right about now. Hey, Trilly, got a spare?
Trillseekr
<bla...@excite.com> writes:
>--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield, who's looking for an industrial strength lighting
>rod right about now. Hey, Trilly, got a spare?
>
Uh...sweetie I know you're on your honeymoon, but really, what use could you
find for a lightning rod?? <G>
Patt Paulos
>
>BTW, hi guys, I've missed you!
>
>--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield,
Hey Blair. Glad to see you back. How are you doing? It has been pretty quiet
around here, it is because we are all on a Tuesday high each week. It takes me
about six days to come down off of it. :O)I am seeing all these shows I have
never seen before, life is grand. So how goes it with you? <g>
*** Patt ***
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cmshaw
>cmshaw wrote:
>>here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
>>human/demon crosses are genetically feasible: what if sentinels and/or
>>guides are actually *not* full humans? (we still know nothing about
>>jim's mom or blair's dad!)
>Now that's an interesting thought. I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
>hybrid.
i like that idea better myself. feels like "cheating" to have sentinels
partially nonhuman. <g> (although, oh, the angst for jim if it were
so! it's almost worth it just for that. poor jim, so worried about being
a "freak" -- it would make him so *happy* to have a little brother who
turned green and spiky when he sneezed, because he wouldn't be the only
one in the family then.)
> Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?
*snerk* sure i can! they'd get along famously, i'd imagine.
...actually, i was thinking accidentally, and the divorce was from the
discovery...but now that you mention it -- we don't really know *what*
ellison sr. does for a living, do we? just that it involves lots of
travel. he could very well be a silent backer to any number of demonic
or otherwise otherworldly consortiums.
wow. look at those plot bunnies stampede.
> Naomi, sure, it's
>all about the love. Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.
...then again, it's jim who gets the regular visions (just like doyle),
not blair. blair is more watcher material...watchers as demons?...or
demonologist...he'd be fascinated by that demon ethnographer, doyle's
ex...i bet he'd have the mind to be a truly impressive witch, if he got
access to the right books and encouragement to study them.
--cmshaw, who really could use some bunny repellent here, folks
p.s. reading back over this, i thought i ought to make it clear that in
spite of my history of writing nc-17 fanfic, i don't mean that i "see",
in any literal visualize-in-my-head-for-fiction-purposes sense, ellison
sr. and nonhuman wife doing anything more than, oh, patting each other
on the shoulders. i'm too identified with jim not to have a "parents"
squick there. <eg>
ZAguilera
>partially nonhuman. <g> (although, oh, the angst for jim if it were
>so! it's almost worth it just for that. poor jim, so worried about being
>a "freak" -- it would make him so *happy* to have a little brother who
>turned green and spiky when he sneezed, because he wouldn't be the only
>one in the family then.)
>
Boy, would Ellison Sr. have a fit. Both his boys wind up being "freaks." What
would he tell his golf buddies? <g>
>> Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?
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>*snerk* sure i can! they'd get along famously, i'd imagine.
>
>...actually, i was thinking accidentally, and the divorce was from the
>discovery...but now that you mention it -- we don't really know *what*
>ellison sr. does for a living, do we? just that it involves lots of
>travel. he could very well be a silent backer to any number of demonic
>or otherwise otherworldly consortiums.
>
He could join Wolfram and Hart. Heck, for all we know he is a part of the law
firm.
>wow. look at those plot bunnies stampede.
>
>> Naomi, sure, it's
>>all about the love. Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.
>
>...then again, it's jim who gets the regular visions (just like doyle),
>not blair. blair is more watcher material...watchers as demons?...or
>demonologist...he'd be fascinated by that demon ethnographer, doyle's
>ex...i bet he'd have the mind to be a truly impressive witch, if he got
>access to the right books and encouragement to study them.
>
Blair as demonologist. Hmm, I could see it. That way Jim could have an angsty
Doyle-moment. Not that our boy doesn't do wonderful angst himself.
>--cmshaw, who really could use some bunny repellent here, folks
>
>p.s. reading back over this, i thought i ought to make it clear that in
>spite of my history of writing nc-17 fanfic, i don't mean that i "see",
>in any literal visualize-in-my-head-for-fiction-purposes sense, ellison
>sr. and nonhuman wife doing anything more than, oh, patting each other
>on the shoulders. i'm too identified with jim not to have a "parents"
>squick there. <eg>
I understand completely. Of course I don't wanna think about Ellison Sr. and
anybody, even that patting shoulders thing. Yick.
Zenia
cmshaw
>In article <19991111190854...@ng-fv1.aol.com>, zagu...@aol.com
>(ZAguilera) writes:
>>Now that's an interesting thought. I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
>>hybrid. Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon? Naomi, sure,
>>it's all about the love. Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.
>
>Wait a minute, remember, human/ANGEL crossbreeds are possible too...and
>wouldn't it be interesting to see how they relate to human/demon crossbreeds?
>:) Funny, nobody ever talks about anything except human/demon...not on tv not
>in Xanth....<big dramatic sigh> Well there are constant references in Sendom
>to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think. So what if Naomi had
>*that* sort of visitation some night? LOL Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna get
>struck down for this...<watching the sky>
hmm. in the buffyverse, *is* there a distinction between angels and
demons? in practical, physical terms, i mean. seems like "demons" get
send around to "bring balance" (to the force...oops, wrong fandom)
fairly often: whistler and doyle both had "assignments" from some
unspecified "higher power".
--cmshaw
KEB
they took the main joke of the movie that this blonde barbie-girl cheerleader
Valley princess was responsible for saving mankind and turned her into some
kind of geek-chic coolgal in a weird universe. And Angel sounds too much like
Forever Knight but with more dramatic cheekbones.
This said: Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell
fanfic? Particularly Lilith?
Suisan
>This said: Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell<BR>
>fanfic? Particularly Lilith? <BR>
><BR>
><BR>
Not only read it, but loved it! And her latest in the series as well! Man,
what a concept! If you haven't read it, run, don't walk to read Inferno! And
I really, really have just one more thing to say...
DL did a great job researching Lilith and understanding the "myths" behind her.
Now, where did I shove that copy of the Gnostic Text......
Suisan "Sue" R.
LMDARLING
writes:
>Well there are constant references in Sendom
>>to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think. So what if Naomi
>had
>>*that* sort of visitation some night? LOL Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna
>get
>>struck down for this...<watching the sky>
>
I thought the 'angel' references were in regard to what are typically called
'angel shots' in film production -- where an actor or actress happens to be lit
and lensed from angles that lend them even more 'beauty' than they inherently
have. For TS, there are certain shots of Blair/Garrett that really emphasize
his hair and eyes, for example, and I was told that's what is meant by angel
shots -- nothing to do with supernatural beings.
cmshaw
>In article <3834d...@nntp.okinfo.net>, cmshaw@nospam_lambda.net (cmshaw)
>writes:
actually, i think you dropped an attribution there. trilly said this:
well, that's what is *usually* meant by "angel shots" -- but who knows
how or why a muse latches onto a particular phrase? <g>
Blair Kennedy
Speaking of Angel Blair, did you all see the Angel Blair Mrs. Fish made?
It's very.
--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield
Blair Kennedy
Patt Paulos wrote in message
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>So how goes it with you? <g>
Hey Patt! Congrats on catching up with TS. Not a bad way to spend a few
hours is it? The drama, the action, the guys.
Speaking of guys, mine's leaving me all ready. No, I'm not that heinous!
It's just hunting season is starting and my honey, brother, brother-in-law
and the twins on the corner are all very outdoorsy. But, if they think I'm
frying up that deer they've got another think coming. I'm a married gal now
and I'm getting a maid.
--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield
Blair Kennedy
Trillseekr wrote in message >
>Uh...sweetie I know you're on your honeymoon, but really, what use could
you
>find for a lightning rod?? <G>
>
Just covering my bases!
--Blair Kennedy
Blair Kennedy
KEB wrote in message <19991119003035...@ng-cj1.aol.com>...
>And Angel sounds too much like Forever Knight but with more dramatic
cheekbones.
Oh, I don't know. I watched FK and I didn't think it was all that. I mean,
despite Catherine Disher who was great as the evil alien leader Mana on War
of the Worlds. As for Angel, it's a decent series even if it is a bit
directionless. Too bad about Doyle, though, especially since Cordelia was
just warming up to him--even though she was banging him on the head with a
tray.
Then again, maybe I can just relate more to a character like Cordelia. I
just loved her when she finally faced off with the ghost lady.
--Blair Kennedy
cmshaw
>Haven't seen an episode of Buffy The Series or Angel, from what I understand
>they took the main joke of the movie that this blonde barbie-girl cheerleader
>Valley princess was responsible for saving mankind and turned her into some
>kind of geek-chic coolgal in a weird universe.
yes, in a good way. <g> kind of like how ts takes this uptight
by-the-book cop and sends him crazy visions of jungle animals. if
they ever got over the age thing jim and buffy would get along
famously (although preferably at a distance, since they're both
highly territorial).
> And Angel sounds too much like
>Forever Knight but with more dramatic cheekbones.
...and a little less violin music, again yes. it's also got a better
(imho) cast of supporting characters and does a better job of
acknowledging how silly its angst can get (witness spike's monologue,
which is a far better parody than i have *ever* seen before, of
*anything*). i grant you, i'm a big fan of fk and its violin music.
>This said: Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell
>fanfic? Particularly Lilith?
yummy. some of my favorite gen stories. <g> much more solemn than the
buffyverse, though.
KEB
>>they took the main joke of the movie that this blonde barbie-girl
>cheerleader
>>Valley princess was responsible for saving mankind
>and turned her into some
>>kind of geek-chic coolgal in a weird universe.
>
>yes, in a good way.
I kinda liked the movie Buffy. (stakes a vamp. "Oh Gross, I broke a ~nail~!)
But then I like Maureen Birnbaum Barbarian Swordsperson in the stories by
George Alec Effinger better than Xena. From what I've heard of the hype for
the TV Buffy she reminds me of Tim Desmond in Esther Friesner's books Gnome
Man's Land, Harpy High, Unicorn U-- "Champion of the Fey...I don't know, dear.
I always expected that you'll come to work with me here at McDonald's if you
ever got a part time job."
>> And Angel sounds too much like
>>Forever Knight but with more dramatic cheekbones.
>.and a little less violin music, again yes. it's also got a better
>(imho) cast of supporting characters and does a better job of
>acknowledging how silly its angst can get (witness spike's monologue,
>which is a far better parody than i have *ever* seen before, of
>*anything*).
Oh, yeah. Forever Knight did get a bit overblown at times. Nick took big
chunks out of the scenery because he wasn't allowed to bite anything else.
Liked mainly because it did show the vampirism as an allegory for alcoholism
instead of the gothic undead-soulless-monsters they'd been before.
My point, from what I've heard of the hype, Angel, a 200 yr old vampire who now
feels guilty about the murders he commited, becomes a detective in LA. Nicolas
DeBrabant, a 800yr old vampire, who feels guilty about the murders he commited,
becomes a detective in Toronto.
>>This said: Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell
>>fanfic? Particularly Lilith?
Spoilers for above:
I mentioned this, in this thread about Sentinels and Human/Demon crossovers,
because, I haven't printed Lilith out yet, and I don't want to risk the
freeserver freezeout to check...after Jim slept with Lilith didn't Blair tease
him about a basket showing up at the doorstep with a baby with the cutest
little horns and hooved toesies...or did my own deranged imagination create
that?
Patt Paulos
>Hey Patt! Congrats on catching up with TS. Not a bad way to spend a few
>hours is it? The drama, the action, the guys.
Can't think of anything better. LOL :)
Arcayne1
>just loved her when she finally faced off with the ghost lady.>>
It was great!! "I'm not some little crybuffy, I'm the nastiest girl at
Sunnydale High". Cordy had her mojo working big time:)
I LIKE Angel. I loved FK, but Angel isn't as dark, and while the title
character does his share of brooding, he's got nothing on NickAngst. sheesh,
Nick could give you a contact depression, just by hanging out with him.
Arcayne
"She stood very still, neither weeping nor laughing,
for her joy was too great for her body to understand."
ZAguilera
>despite Catherine Disher who was great as the evil alien leader Mana on War
>of the Worlds. As for Angel, it's a decent series even if it is a bit
>directionless. Too bad about Doyle, though, especially since Cordelia was
>just warming up to him--even though she was banging him on the head with a
>tray.
>
I loved that scene. As for Doyle <sigh>, what's there left to do if it's true.
On one of my lists we've been talking about setting up a denial group.
>Then again, maybe I can just relate more to a character like Cordelia. I
>just loved her when she finally faced off with the ghost lady.
>
>--Blair Kennedy
>
I didn't much like Cordy in Buffy, but I'm growing to like her more and more in
Angel. There's just something about her honest that gets to me.
Zenia, who's gonna be a member of Coven Denial soon.
ZAguilera
tiny spoiler space
>>This said: Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell
>>fanfic? Particularly Lilith?
>
>yummy. some of my favorite gen stories. <g> much more solemn than the
>buffyverse, though.
>
>--cmshaw
>
>
Oh yeah, love that series. I read everything she puts out. No BabyBlairs or
JerkyJims in the bunch. Plus Michael (the angelic one) puts in a few cameos.
An angel with a sword, yummy.
Zenia, who knows she's sick.
Trillseekr
(LMDARLING) writes:
>
>I thought the 'angel' references were in regard to what are typically called
>'angel shots' in film production -- where an actor or actress happens to be
>lit and lensed from angles that lend them even more 'beauty' than they
inherently
>have. For TS, there are certain shots of Blair/Garrett that really emphasize
>his hair and eyes, for example, and I was told that's what is meant by angel
>shots -- nothing to do with supernatural beings.
Yeah as far as I know that's what they refer to...I was just taking it in
another direction, since the supernatural was being discussed already here. :)