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KEB  
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From: bestere...@aol.com (KEB)
Date: 1999/11/10
Subject: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire
Burning down the house....

Gotta say the best part of the Ep was Blair's hat.  GM looks exactly like a
cocker spaniel.  And the music was cool.  And Deborah didn't have any
particular chemistry with Jim, but she was one of the less obnoxious BOTW's.
Still gotta say  I hate Sam's practical joke.  long hair and fireflares are not
a good combination.  But I liked the way Jim totally froze until he saw Blair
was ok.  

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Date: 1999/11/10
Subject: Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire
In article <19991109234507.02719.00002...@ng-cf1.aol.com>, bestere...@aol.com

(KEB) writes:
>Still gotta say  I hate Sam's practical joke.  long hair and fireflares are
>not
>a good combination.  But I liked the way Jim totally froze until he saw Blair
>was ok.  

I can't believe Sam didn't get some kind of lecture about not letting personal
feelings influence her work behavior...that was SO uncool to endanger somebody
like that.

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From: cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNT P_INEWS_DOMAIN ()
Date: 1999/11/10
Subject: Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire

...and jim's reaction to the hat, which was one of those adorable grins.

haven't gotten my tape of this ep from iffer yet (one more month until
my apartment complex gets sci-fi!) but i do recall some memorable
lines...this one had the "how's your beautiful wife?" "much better now
that she's divorced me and moved to san francisco, thanks," exchange,
right?  and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way", which is exactly
how i was thinking of detective kate lockley from "angel" last night.

come to think of it, "angel" is shaping up into some nice crossover
potential, isn't it?

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From: zaguil...@aol.com (ZAguilera)
Date: 1999/11/11
Subject: Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire

Eh, this episode was okay.  The only part I really liked was the Blair hat part
and the weird looks Jim got when he mentioned Dr. Zogs sex wax.  As for a
Sentinel/Angel crossover, that works.  Especially if it's slash.
Angel/Doyle=yum.  But then I'm biased.

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Date: 1999/11/11
Subject: Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire
In article <3829d0e...@nntp.okinfo.net>,
  cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN () wrote:

Jim's reaction to the hat was fun. Of course, it was a pretty silly
looking hat.
An Angel/Sentinal crossover has possibilities - Jim would be driving
himself crazy trying to figure out why there was no heartbeat when he
was around Angel (I expect some denial of the concept of vampires) and
Blair would just be plain facinated.
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From: cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNT P_INEWS_DOMAIN ()
Date: 1999/11/11
Subject: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

margot_iso...@my-deja.com wrote:
>In article <3829d0e...@nntp.okinfo.net>,
>  cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN () wrote:

>> and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way", which is exactly
>> how i was thinking of detective kate lockley from "angel" last night.
>> come to think of it, "angel" is shaping up into some nice crossover
>> potential, isn't it?

>An Angel/Sentinal crossover has possibilities - Jim would be driving
>himself crazy trying to figure out why there was no heartbeat when he
>was around Angel (I expect some denial of the concept of vampires) and
>Blair would just be plain facinated.

t'heck with angel.  jim would probably hate him just on general
vigilante principles alone.  i want jim to meet kate and doyle, and for
cordelia to run roughshod over him until blair comes to his rescue.  <g>
the amusing disbelief in vampires would come, imho, from poor simon.  by
this point i would *hope* that if blair said, "jim, that's a vampire,"
jim would reply, "okay, but i'm not wearing garlic, chief, because it
makes me sneeze too."

here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
human/demon crosses are genetically feasible:  what if sentinels and/or
guides are actually *not* full humans?  (we still know nothing about
jim's mom or blair's dad!)

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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

> >> and "she's cute -- in a pitbull sort of way",

LOL! Pit Bulls *are* cute :-)

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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

>here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
>human/demon crosses are genetically feasible:  what if sentinels and/or
>guides are actually *not* full humans?  (we still know nothing about
>jim's mom or blair's dad!)

>--cmshaw

Now that's an interesting thought.  I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
hybrid.  Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?  Naomi, sure, it's
all about the love.  Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.

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Date: 1999/11/12
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)
In article <382ad5b...@nntp.okinfo.net>,

cmshaw@I_should_put_my_domain_in_etc_NNTP_INEWS_DOMAIN () writes:
>here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
>human/demon crosses are genetically feasible:  what if sentinels and/or
>guides are actually *not* full humans?  (we still know nothing about
>jim's mom or blair's dad!)

<snickering>  And if this were the X-Files, Jim's mom and Blair's dad could
have been the same person....(remember those sex-changing aliens?)

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Date: 1999/11/12
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)
In article <19991111190854.23488.00000...@ng-fv1.aol.com>, zaguil...@aol.com

(ZAguilera) writes:
>Now that's an interesting thought.  I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
>hybrid.  Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?  Naomi, sure,
>it's all about the love.  Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.

Wait a minute, remember, human/ANGEL crossbreeds are possible too...and
wouldn't it be interesting to see how they relate to human/demon crossbreeds?
:)  Funny, nobody ever talks about anything except human/demon...not on tv, not
in Xanth....<big dramatic sigh>  Well there are constant references in Sendom
to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think.  So what if Naomi had
*that* sort of visitation some night?  LOL  Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna get
struck down for this...<watching the sky>

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Date: 1999/11/12
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

Trillseekr wrote in message

<19991112160156.25011.00000...@ngol04.aol.com>...

>Well there are constant references in Sendom to 'Angel Blair', referring to

his >appearance, I think.  So what if Naomi had *that* sort of visitation
some night?  LOL  >Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna get struck down for
this...<watching the sky>

Or maybe she was visited by the big guy himself?  I can see it all coming
back to Blair while he's touring with a roadshow production of "Jesus Christ
Superstar" after he got the boot from Rainier. Della Reese, as Mary
Magdalene, is on hand for support.

BTW, hi guys, I've missed you!

--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield, who's looking for an industrial strength lighting
rod right about now. Hey, Trilly, got a spare?


 
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Date: 1999/11/13
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)
In article <80ihau$454...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>, "Blair Kennedy"

<blai...@excite.com> writes:
>--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield, who's looking for an industrial strength lighting
>rod right about now. Hey, Trilly, got a spare?

Uh...sweetie I know you're on your honeymoon, but really, what use could you
find for a lightning rod??  <G>

Trilly

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Date: 1999/11/13
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

>port.

>BTW, hi guys, I've missed you!

>--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield,

Hey Blair.  Glad to see you back.  How are you doing?  It has been pretty quiet
around here, it is because we are all on a Tuesday high each week.  It takes me
about six days to come down off of it.  :O)I am seeing all these shows I have
never seen before, life is grand.  So how goes it with you?  <g>  
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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)
Looking for a copy of the ending of "Dead Drop" my tape quit at the
last 10+ minutes (boo hoo). Can anybody help me out?

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Date: 1999/11/18
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

ZAguilera (zaguil...@aol.com) wrote:
>cmshaw wrote:
>>here's an interesting thought, given that doyle has proven that
>>human/demon crosses are genetically feasible:  what if sentinels and/or
>>guides are actually *not* full humans?  (we still know nothing about
>>jim's mom or blair's dad!)
>Now that's an interesting thought.  I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
>hybrid.

i like that idea better myself.  feels like "cheating" to have sentinels
partially nonhuman.  <g>  (although, oh, the angst for jim if it were
so!  it's almost worth it just for that.  poor jim, so worried about being
a "freak" -- it would make him so *happy* to have a little brother who
turned green and spiky when he sneezed, because he wouldn't be the only
one in the family then.)

>  Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?

*snerk*  sure i can!  they'd get along famously, i'd imagine.

...actually, i was thinking accidentally, and the divorce was from the
discovery...but now that you mention it -- we don't really know *what*
ellison sr. does for a living, do we?  just that it involves lots of
travel.  he could very well be a silent backer to any number of demonic
or otherwise otherworldly consortiums.

wow.  look at those plot bunnies stampede.

>  Naomi, sure, it's
>all about the love.  Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.

...then again, it's jim who gets the regular visions (just like doyle),
not blair.  blair is more watcher material...watchers as demons?...or
demonologist...he'd be fascinated by that demon ethnographer, doyle's
ex...i bet he'd have the mind to be a truly impressive witch, if he got
access to the right books and encouragement to study them.

--cmshaw, who really could use some bunny repellent here, folks

p.s.  reading back over this, i thought i ought to make it clear that in
spite of my history of writing nc-17 fanfic, i don't mean that i "see",
in any literal visualize-in-my-head-for-fiction-purposes sense, ellison
sr. and nonhuman wife doing anything more than, oh, patting each other
on the shoulders.  i'm too identified with jim not to have a "parents"
squick there.  <eg>
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Date: 1999/11/19
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

>i like that idea better myself.  feels like "cheating" to have sentinels
>partially nonhuman.  <g>  (although, oh, the angst for jim if it were
>so!  it's almost worth it just for that.  poor jim, so worried about being
>a "freak" -- it would make him so *happy* to have a little brother who
>turned green and spiky when he sneezed, because he wouldn't be the only
>one in the family then.)

Boy, would Ellison Sr. have a fit.  Both his boys wind up being "freaks."  What
would he tell his golf buddies? <g>

>>  Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?

>*snerk*  sure i can!  they'd get along famously, i'd imagine.

>...actually, i was thinking accidentally, and the divorce was from the
>discovery...but now that you mention it -- we don't really know *what*
>ellison sr. does for a living, do we?  just that it involves lots of
>travel.  he could very well be a silent backer to any number of demonic
>or otherwise otherworldly consortiums.

He could join Wolfram and Hart.  Heck, for all we know he is a part of the law
firm.

>wow.  look at those plot bunnies stampede.

>>  Naomi, sure, it's
>>all about the love.  Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.

>...then again, it's jim who gets the regular visions (just like doyle),
>not blair.  blair is more watcher material...watchers as demons?...or
>demonologist...he'd be fascinated by that demon ethnographer, doyle's
>ex...i bet he'd have the mind to be a truly impressive witch, if he got
>access to the right books and encouragement to study them.

Blair as demonologist.  Hmm, I could see it.  That way Jim could have an angsty
Doyle-moment.  Not that our boy doesn't do wonderful angst himself.

>--cmshaw, who really could use some bunny repellent here, folks

>p.s.  reading back over this, i thought i ought to make it clear that in
>spite of my history of writing nc-17 fanfic, i don't mean that i "see",
>in any literal visualize-in-my-head-for-fiction-purposes sense, ellison
>sr. and nonhuman wife doing anything more than, oh, patting each other
>on the shoulders.  i'm too identified with jim not to have a "parents"
>squick there.  <eg>

I understand completely.  Of course I don't wanna think about Ellison Sr. and
anybody, even that patting shoulders thing. Yick.

Zenia


 
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Date: 1999/11/19
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

Trillseekr (trillse...@aol.comsnlybs) wrote:
>In article <19991111190854.23488.00000...@ng-fv1.aol.com>, zaguil...@aol.com
>(ZAguilera) writes:
>>Now that's an interesting thought.  I'd go for guides as maybe a human/demon
>>hybrid.  Can you see William Ellison sleeping with a demon?  Naomi, sure,
>>it's all about the love.  Besides, Doyle can be Angel's guide.

>Wait a minute, remember, human/ANGEL crossbreeds are possible too...and
>wouldn't it be interesting to see how they relate to human/demon crossbreeds?
>:) Funny, nobody ever talks about anything except human/demon...not on tv not
>in Xanth....<big dramatic sigh>  Well there are constant references in Sendom
>to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think.  So what if Naomi had
>*that* sort of visitation some night?  LOL  Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna get
>struck down for this...<watching the sky>

hmm.  in the buffyverse, *is* there a distinction between angels and
demons?  in practical, physical terms, i mean.  seems like "demons" get
send around to "bring balance" (to the force...oops, wrong fandom)
fairly often:  whistler and doyle both had "assignments" from some
unspecified "higher power".

--cmshaw

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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)
Haven't seen an episode of Buffy The Series or Angel, from what I understand
they took the main joke of the movie that this blonde barbie-girl cheerleader
Valley princess was responsible for saving mankind and turned her into some
kind of geek-chic coolgal in a weird universe.  And Angel sounds too much like
Forever Knight but with more dramatic cheekbones.

This said:  Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell
fanfic?  Particularly Lilith?  

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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

><BR>
>This said:  Any of you on this thread read DL Witherspoon's Gates of Hell<BR>
>fanfic?  Particularly Lilith?  <BR>
><BR>
><BR>

Not only read it, but loved it!  And her latest in the series as well!  Man,
what a concept!  If you haven't read it, run, don't walk to read Inferno!  And
I really, really have just one more thing to say...

DL did a great job researching Lilith and understanding the "myths" behind her.
 Now, where did I shove that copy of the Gnostic Text......

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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)
In article <3834dcc...@nntp.okinfo.net>, cmshaw@nospam_lambda.net (cmshaw)
writes:

>Well there are constant references in Sendom
>>to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think.  So what if Naomi
>had
>>*that* sort of visitation some night?  LOL  Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna
>get
>>struck down for this...<watching the sky>

I thought the 'angel' references were in regard to what are typically called
'angel shots' in film production -- where an actor or actress happens to be lit
and lensed from angles that lend them even more 'beauty' than they inherently
have.  For TS, there are certain shots of Blair/Garrett that really emphasize
his hair and eyes, for example, and I was told that's what is meant by angel
shots -- nothing to do with supernatural beings.

 
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Date: 1999/11/19
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

LMDARLING (lmdarl...@aol.com) wrote:
>In article <3834dcc...@nntp.okinfo.net>, cmshaw@nospam_lambda.net (cmshaw)
>writes:

actually, i think you dropped an attribution there.  trilly said this:

>>Well there are constant references in Sendom
>>>to 'Angel Blair', referring to his appearance, I think.  So what if Naomi
>>had
>>>*that* sort of visitation some night?  LOL  Oh boy, I just know I'm gonna
>>get
>>>struck down for this...<watching the sky>
>I thought the 'angel' references were in regard to what are typically called
>'angel shots' in film production -- where an actor or actress happens to be lit
>and lensed from angles that lend them even more 'beauty' than they inherently
>have.  For TS, there are certain shots of Blair/Garrett that really emphasize
>his hair and eyes, for example, and I was told that's what is meant by angel
>shots -- nothing to do with supernatural beings.

well, that's what is *usually* meant by "angel shots" -- but who knows
how or why a muse latches onto a particular phrase?  <g>

--cmshaw

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From: "Blair Kennedy" <blai...@excite.com>
Date: 1999/11/19
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

Speaking of Angel Blair, did you all see the Angel Blair Mrs. Fish made?
It's very.

--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield


 
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Date: 1999/11/19
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

Patt Paulos wrote in message

<19991112232653.07216.00000...@ng-cl1.aol.com>...

>So how goes it with you?  <g>

Hey Patt! Congrats on catching up with TS. Not a bad way to spend a few
hours is it? The drama, the action, the guys.

Speaking of guys, mine's leaving me all ready. No, I'm not that heinous!
It's just hunting season is starting and my honey, brother, brother-in-law
and the twins on the corner are all very outdoorsy. But, if they think I'm
frying up that deer they've got another think coming. I'm a married gal now
and I'm getting a maid.

--Blair Kennedy-Sheffield


 
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Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

Trillseekr wrote in message >
>Uh...sweetie I know you're on your honeymoon, but really, what use could
you
>find for a lightning rod??  <G>

Just covering my bases!

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Date: 1999/11/19
Subject: Re: Sentinel/Angel (was Re: Scifi Rerun: Light My Fire)

KEB wrote in message <19991119003035.23899.00000...@ng-cj1.aol.com>...
>And Angel sounds too much like Forever Knight but with more dramatic

cheekbones.

Oh, I don't know. I watched FK and I didn't think it was all that. I mean,
despite Catherine Disher who was great as the evil alien leader Mana on War
of the Worlds. As for Angel, it's a decent series even if it is a bit
directionless. Too bad about Doyle, though, especially since Cordelia was
just warming up to him--even though she was banging him on the head with a
tray.

Then again, maybe I can just relate more to a character like Cordelia. I
just loved her when she finally faced off with the ghost lady.

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