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TMC

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Feb 20, 2012, 9:39:33 PM2/20/12
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As I observe the status of the SyFy channel today, including WWE
programming, I find myself yearning for the good old days. I remember
quite well the series of creepy, atmospheric ads from my childhood
that declared "its coming," advertising the impending launch of the
Sci-Fi Channel. As a lifelong fantasy and science fiction geek I was
more than interested, but my parents had little desire to pay the
extra money to get it. But AH!, in the mid 90's our basic cable
package got an upgrade, and we automatically got a number of new
channels, including Sci-Fi-how thrilled I was! I still remember fondly
my days in jr. high, before real world things like jobs and cars were
a factor, when I would spend my afternoons watching Dark Shadows
reruns.

Perhaps my fondest memory was the first anime-marathon they ever did
one summer when I was in high school; it was hosted by some hot,
blonde chick in a skintight outfit, and it was really my first
introduction to anime as a unique art style-I quickly became hooked.
And I especially remember the weird and creepy bumpers that they used
to run between programming; I recall one that featured a strange,
clock-like contraption with a staring eye and electric sparks coming
out of it, and another that had a clock turning into a demonic looking
monster.

Sadly, the network has just gone so far downhill for me. It really all
started when they began doing original programming and movies-don't
get me wrong, I loved the first season of Farscape and a few other
shows they came up with, but for the most part it seems they have just
gotten so utterly gratuitous about it. Anymore it feels as if they
ever show is one of a dozen different incarnations of Stargate, Ghost
Hunters, and WWE. And I will say for a fact that none was sadder than
I when they decided to officially break from the past and rename the
network SyFy-and yes, for a while I did think it was now meant to be
pronounced "siffy." Whatever happened to Night Gallery, Swamp Thing,
the original Stark Trek, and The Night Stalker? Where did my random,
out of nowhere bizarro movies go? When did science fiction become
reality TV? Oh days of my youth, where art thou!

Arthur Lipscomb

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:07:31 PM2/20/12
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On 2/20/2012 6:39 PM, TMC wrote:
> http://realwrestlecrap.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=display&thread=415030
>
> As I observe the status of the SyFy channel today, including WWE
> programming, I find myself yearning for the good old days. I remember
> quite well the series of creepy, atmospheric ads from my childhood
> that declared "its coming," advertising the impending launch of the
> Sci-Fi Channel.

I remember spending quite a bit of time watching those promos before the
channel officially launched.


As a lifelong fantasy and science fiction geek I was
> more than interested, but my parents had little desire to pay the
> extra money to get it. But AH!, in the mid 90's our basic cable
> package got an upgrade, and we automatically got a number of new
> channels, including Sci-Fi-how thrilled I was! I still remember fondly
> my days in jr. high, before real world things like jobs and cars were
> a factor, when I would spend my afternoons watching Dark Shadows
> reruns.
>
> Perhaps my fondest memory was the first anime-marathon they ever did
> one summer when I was in high school; it was hosted by some hot,
> blonde chick in a skintight outfit, and it was really my first
> introduction to anime as a unique art style-I quickly became hooked.


I had a similar experience. I didn't really become a fan of anime until
I first started to watch it on the Sci Fi channel.


> And I especially remember the weird and creepy bumpers that they used
> to run between programming; I recall one that featured a strange,
> clock-like contraption with a staring eye and electric sparks coming
> out of it, and another that had a clock turning into a demonic looking
> monster.
>
> Sadly, the network has just gone so far downhill for me. It really all
> started when they began doing original programming and movies-don't
> get me wrong, I loved the first season of Farscape and a few other
> shows they came up with, but for the most part it seems they have just
> gotten so utterly gratuitous about it.


I disagree. The early Scf-Fi shows like Farscape and Stargate were the
best shows the network had. Nothing they have now compare but in its'
heyday the shows were a positive sign. I think the main problem with
SyFy is the percentage of watchable programs has greatly diminished.
Back when they were the only game in town they could get away with
slumming but now there are too many better alternatives. For whatever
reason they seem to have embraced the low quality nature of much of
their programming and now intentionally programming for the lowest
common denominator.

Tom

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:48:11 PM2/20/12
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On Feb 20, 9:07 pm, Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org>
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> On 2/20/2012 6:39 PM, TMC wrote:
>
> >http://realwrestlecrap.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=offtopic&action=...
My cable provider at the time had Sci-Fi from nearly the beginning. It
started in 1992 and I got it in early '93. I remember things like the
oddball Trailer Park and other cultish original programming. The worst
things to happen to Sci-Fi were Barry Diller and Universal.

Here's a spotty history of the channel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy

Also, take a gander at these program schedules:

http://www.innermind.com/sfc/index.html

Brings back memories...

Tom

Duggy

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Feb 21, 2012, 1:20:38 AM2/21/12
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Surely this is in the FAQ.

===
= DUG.
===

dx...@albury.nospam.net.au

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Feb 21, 2012, 6:12:55 AM2/21/12
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TMC wrote:

<Snip>

> The Night Stalker?

Was this a series I sort of remember, about a hard working newspaper
reporter who always go the unusual story about weirdo monsters which he
defeated but rarely got a newspaper story he could use?? Starred Darren
?????.

Those were the days!

Daniel

MRDIGGS00

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Feb 21, 2012, 12:27:05 PM2/21/12
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On Feb 20, 6:39 pm, TMC <tmc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I agree. This channel has just gone down hill. Not even close to what
it used to be. Thats why I"ve always said they should have a SYFY 2,
which shows more of the original programming.

Dano

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Feb 21, 2012, 2:18:49 PM2/21/12
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I agree. This channel has just gone down hill. Not even close to what
it used to be. Thats why I"ve always said they should have a SYFY 2,
which shows more of the original programming.

============================================

Yeah. You tell 'em! Let's get back to that "Golden Age" of the Sci-Fi
Network. :/

Jerry Heyman

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Feb 21, 2012, 5:45:18 PM2/21/12
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Dani...@teranews.com wrote:

> TMC wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>> The Night Stalker?
>
> Was this a series I sort of remember, about a hard working newspaper
> reporter who always go the unusual story about weirdo monsters which he
> defeated but rarely got a newspaper story he could use?? Starred Darren
> ?????.

Kolchak: The Night Stalker

Darren McGavin starred as the newspaper reporter

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071003/

Chris Carter (X-Files) said that Kolchak: the night stalker was his
inspiration in creating the X-Files.

>
> Those were the days!
>
> Daniel

jerry
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sci-fi...syfy...orsissy???

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Feb 21, 2012, 5:42:48 PM2/21/12
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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:39:33 -0800 (PST), TMC <tmc...@gmail.com>
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Sci-Fi...SyFy...or SissY, as I call it now, went the route of MTV.

MTV was GOD when it first started. It LED the music industry, CREATED
music videos going mainstream, ran by the seat of its pants and a "I
don't give a fuck" attitude that kept it fresh, hip, new, relevant.

Then MTV decided it had an addicted audience and you can't run
advertising in the middle of a music video. (product placement?)

So MTV created VH1 to play music and MTV became boring reality
horseshit where grubworm teens can pick up their latest life strategy
or phrase or hostile act to show everyone at school.

In the same manner, SissY is about wrestling, ghosts, BBC reruns.

It is too cool for nerds now...well it's for nerds who don't think
they are nerds.

dx...@albury.nospam.net.au

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Feb 22, 2012, 5:35:36 AM2/22/12
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Jerry Heyman wrote:
> Dani...@teranews.com wrote:
>
>> TMC wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>> The Night Stalker?
>>
>> Was this a series I sort of remember, about a hard working newspaper
>> reporter who always go the unusual story about weirdo monsters which he
>> defeated but rarely got a newspaper story he could use?? Starred Darren
>> ?????.
>
> Kolchak: The Night Stalker
>
> Darren McGavin starred as the newspaper reporter
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071003/
>
> Chris Carter (X-Files) said that Kolchak: the night stalker was his
> inspiration in creating the X-Files.
>
>>
>> Those were the days!
>>
>> Daniel
>
> jerry

Good memories!!

Daniel

MITO MINISTER

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Mar 20, 2012, 8:46:45 AM3/20/12
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You grew up in the 90s? What a friggin' douchebag! The 60s were the
glory days of science-fiction!

Jerry Heyman

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Mar 20, 2012, 5:39:52 PM3/20/12
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MITO MINISTER wrote:

> On Feb 21, 11:39 am, TMC <tmc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
... [ reminiscing about 1990s scifi deleted for brevity ] ...

> You grew up in the 90s? What a friggin' douchebag! The 60s were the
> glory days of science-fiction!

Irwin Allen!

- Time Tunnel
- Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
- Lost in Space
- Land of the Giants

also

- Star Trek

and possibly UFO (need to check imdb on that)

jerry
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Arthur Lipscomb

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Mar 20, 2012, 10:43:36 PM3/20/12
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On 3/20/2012 2:39 PM, Jerry Heyman wrote:
> MITO MINISTER wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 11:39 am, TMC<tmc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> ... [ reminiscing about 1990s scifi deleted for brevity ] ...
>
>> You grew up in the 90s? What a friggin' douchebag! The 60s were the
>> glory days of science-fiction!
>
> Irwin Allen!
>
> - Time Tunnel
> - Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea
> - Lost in Space
> - Land of the Giants
>
> also
>
> - Star Trek
>
> and possibly UFO (need to check imdb on that)
>
> jerry


90s sci-Fi ruled!
60s only had 1 Star Trek series. The 90s had multiple Star Trek Series!

Babylon 5 and the PTEN line up.

X Files
Farscape
Stargate
Sliders' first couple of seasons
Lexx
Dark Skies
The Outer Limits
Red Dwarf's best seasons
Earth Final Conflict's first season




walter torres

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Mar 20, 2012, 11:41:58 PM3/20/12
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On 20/03/2012 10:43 PM, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> 90s sci-Fi ruled!
>
> X Files
> Farscape
> Stargate
> Sliders' first couple of seasons
> Lexx
> Dark Skies
> The Outer Limits
> Red Dwarf's best seasons

Nice...

> Earth Final Conflict's first season

Wait, what?

One of these things is not like the others...

Arthur Lipscomb

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Mar 21, 2012, 12:09:49 AM3/21/12
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At least I didn't say season 5. ;-)

Adam H. Kerman

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Mar 21, 2012, 12:22:50 AM3/21/12
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Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>90s sci-Fi ruled!
>60s only had 1 Star Trek series. The 90s had multiple Star Trek Series!

>Babylon 5 and the PTEN line up.

Time Trax was terrific.

>X Files
>Farscape
>Stargate
>Sliders' first couple of seasons
>Lexx
>Dark Skies
>The Outer Limits
>Red Dwarf's best seasons
>Earth Final Conflict's first season

Don't forget UPN.

Nowhere Man, Legend, The Sentinel

Bob (not my real pseudonym)

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Mar 21, 2012, 5:00:16 AM3/21/12
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 17:39:52 -0400, Jerry Heyman <hey...@acm.org>
wrote:

>MITO MINISTER wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 11:39 am, TMC <tmc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>... [ reminiscing about 1990s scifi deleted for brevity ] ...
>
>> You grew up in the 90s? What a friggin' douchebag! The 60s were the
>> glory days of science-fiction!
>
>Irwin Allen!
>
>- Time Tunnel

Cookie cutter plot each week, with only the costumes changed. Make
sure to have one of the locals accidentally brought through the Time
Tunnel while the female scientist whines that she is "doing the best I
can!" as General Scowl leans over her shoulder.

>- Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea

Rock the camera back and forth for an hour. Use lots of sparklers.

>- Lost in Space

Giant carnivorous carrots.

>- Land of the Giants

Lets spend most of the show walking back and forth through the woods
between the ship and someplace with very large paper clips.

>also
>
>- Star Trek

"City on the Edge of Forever", "The Way to Eden" - even Minnie
Ripperton didn't have that great a range between high and low.

Sigh...

erilar

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Mar 21, 2012, 11:31:27 AM3/21/12
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Babylon 5, Farscape, SG1. . . sigh. . .

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


Adam H. Kerman

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Mar 21, 2012, 12:04:01 PM3/21/12
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erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

>Babylon 5, Farscape, SG1. . . sigh. . .

2nd run syndication, original, started by Showtime

You're giving SciFi Channel way too much credit.

Adam H. Kerman

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Mar 21, 2012, 12:06:07 PM3/21/12
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Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>90s sci-Fi ruled!

Which reminds me:

Showtime used to have original Science Fiction series:

Stargate SG-1
Lexx
Odyssey 5

anim8rFSK

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Mar 21, 2012, 2:05:09 PM3/21/12
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In article <jkcu9f$8o8$4...@news.albasani.net>,
The 'SG' stood for: STARGATE!!!

Adam H. Kerman

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Mar 21, 2012, 4:28:27 PM3/21/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>>>90s sci-Fi ruled!

>>Which reminds me:

>>Showtime used to have original Science Fiction series:

>>Stargate SG-1

>The 'SG' stood for: STARGATE!!!

It was redundant because the series had double the goodness of the film.

erilar

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Mar 21, 2012, 4:39:12 PM3/21/12
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In article <jkcu5h$8o8$3...@news.albasani.net>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

Not all of us had premium channels then. I still don't.

--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist


Adam H. Kerman

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Mar 21, 2012, 4:48:56 PM3/21/12
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erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

>>>Babylon 5, Farscape, SG1. . . sigh. . .

>>2nd run syndication, original, started by Showtime

>>You're giving SciFi Channel way too much credit.

>Not all of us had premium channels then. I still don't.

I didn't watch Showtime shows until they were in second run, either.

For its first four seasons, Babylon 5 was on broadcast channels, although
if you were watching a Chris-Craft owned station, they had all affiliated
with UPN and dropped PTEN shows (including new Babylon 5 and some reruns
of Kung Fu: The Legend Continues). PTEN had oddball calendar year seasons,
instead of September-August. So the final five episodes weren't
broadcast in those markets.

Chris-Craft was fuckin' pissed at Warner Brothers for screwing them over
with The WB, hence the UPN affiliation. They had put up actual cash for
PTEN programming and wanted it to become a fifth network.

Stan Brown

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Mar 21, 2012, 7:12:53 PM3/21/12
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That was back when the Food Network had shows that taught you to
cook, wasn't it?


--
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http://OakRoadSystems.com
"Children -- so adorable. In a way they're like people."
-- Veronica, on /Better Off Ted/

anim8rFSK

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Mar 21, 2012, 9:23:19 PM3/21/12
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In article <MPG.29d42a81d...@news.individual.net>,
Stan Brown <the_sta...@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> That was back when the Food Network had shows that taught you to
> cook, wasn't it?

And why don't they rerun the damn things? You'd think there would
always be a new audience for HOW TO BOIL WATER>

Bob (not my real pseudonym)

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:36:27 AM3/22/12
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:23:19 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
First rule of bachelorhood:

Tupperware isn't supposed to burp when you open it.

shawn

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Mar 22, 2012, 8:20:27 AM3/22/12
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:23:19 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

Because they are all about selling products now so they want shows on
that they have all rights to any related products. It's why they have
slowly gotten rid of most of their Celebrity Chefs because the chefs
wanted to keep the rights to the products that go out under their name
and FN wasn't having that.

Eddie Grove

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Mar 22, 2012, 11:50:52 AM3/22/12
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Reruns of lots of cooking shows are on the Cooking Channel.
Around here, there is a PBS digital affiliate that shows
lots reruns of PBS cooking shows.


Eddie

anim8rFSK

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:23:26 PM3/22/12
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In article <h56mm7ts4r5dc63c7...@4ax.com>,
I watch virtually nothing on it any more; does Iron Chef America have
products?

COOKING seems to be picking up the FOOD rejects. But I still want HOW
TO BOIL WATER and TASTE.

~consul

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Mar 22, 2012, 12:35:34 PM3/22/12
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'tis on this 3/22/2012 9:23 AM, wrote anim8rFSK thus to say:
> In article<h56mm7ts4r5dc63c7...@4ax.com>,
> shawn<nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
>>> And why don't they rerun the damn things? You'd think there would
>>> always be a new audience for HOW TO BOIL WATER>
> I watch virtually nothing on it any more; does Iron Chef America have
> products?
> COOKING seems to be picking up the FOOD rejects. But I still want HOW
> TO BOIL WATER and TASTE.

I think there was a contest show still that took the "worst cooks" and taught them basic stuff. It had two folks, I forget the guy but the girl had short white blond hair. I watched a little of it, but it was really close to boiling water and what to put in it basics, and then some minor stuff like finger foods.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

Jerry Heyman

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Mar 24, 2012, 2:20:26 PM3/24/12
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It was also the designation of the team lead by Col Jack O'Neill.
Don't forget that PCV Valve in your automobile is the Pollution Control
Valve Valve :-)

Ashton Crusher

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Oct 10, 2015, 9:55:00 PM10/10/15
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Almost every new SF show is really just a recycled western or recycled
police procedural with some little SF nonsense thrown in to make it
easy to find the bad guy and solve the murder.

I just finished reading Solow and Justman's book and they relate how
the first thinking for the premise was "wagon train in space" but they
quickly realized that was entirely wrong for what they wanted to do.
Unfortunately, Wagon Train/Police story in space is almost all we get
these days.
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