Red Dwarf 6 - PSIRENS - MILD SPOILERS!
Jon Roch-berry
airing?! (Its a fair cop guv, I have dial-up access to the Internet!)
:-)
Well, I'm not entirely convinced that "Red Dwarf: The Search for Red
Dwarf" is such a hot idea, but I can't argue with the fact that it was
very, very funny in places. ("Starbug's crashed more times than a
ZX81").
I've got to say though that the way it ended gives me deep forebodings
along the lines of Quantum Leap, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc,
etc. Each episode is part of a quest - in this case to find the Short
Crimson One - "Its ongoing mission, to seek out large red mining ships,
to boldly go where lots of Sci-Fi has gone before". Still, if they can
get the gags in, I suppose it doesn't matter too much.
Just my opinion.
Jon
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Mr A.J. Mockler
: Am I the first to get a message out about Psirens after its UK 1st
: airing?! (Its a fair cop guv, I have dial-up access to the Internet!)
: :-)
:
: Well, I'm not entirely convinced that "Red Dwarf: The Search for Red
: Dwarf" is such a hot idea, but I can't argue with the fact that it was
: very, very funny in places. ("Starbug's crashed more times than a
: ZX81").
:
: I've got to say though that the way it ended gives me deep forebodings
: along the lines of Quantum Leap, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc,
: etc. Each episode is part of a quest - in this case to find the Short
: Crimson One - "Its ongoing mission, to seek out large red mining ships,
: to boldly go where lots of Sci-Fi has gone before". Still, if they can
: get the gags in, I suppose it doesn't matter too much.
:
: Just my opinion.
:
: Jon
Have to agree with you Jon. I had the same worries about the series.
These things have a tendency to become annoying very quickly.
It was a good episode though. I loved the scene with Lister snogging
the Psiren, and a few cracking lines - like the one you mention above.
Alan.
Mr. S.J. Wooding
: Am I the first to get a message out about Psirens after its UK 1st
: airing?! (Its a fair cop guv, I have dial-up access to the Internet!)
: :-)
It would seem so. I mean, only 22 minutes after it finished as well...
Actually, I rather enjoyed it, nay, loved it. Especially the ZX81 line.
Had me in pleats (I wonder how many of our US friends will appreciate that
reference to the Sir Clive's greatest achievement?)
OK, so the title ship isn't actually there. The characters are. Starbug is.
The weird aliens are. Unfortunately Hilly was absent, but that's a minor
(miner ? ;o) point.
I look forward to next weeks episode.
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>
>Well, I'm not entirely convinced that "Red Dwarf: The Search for Red
>Dwarf" is such a hot idea, but I can't argue with the fact that it was
>very, very funny in places. ("Starbug's crashed more times than a
>ZX81").
>
>I've got to say though that the way it ended gives me deep forebodings
>along the lines of Quantum Leap, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc,
>etc. Each episode is part of a quest - in this case to find the Short
>Crimson One - "Its ongoing mission, to seek out large red mining ships,
>to boldly go where lots of Sci-Fi has gone before". Still, if they can
>get the gags in, I suppose it doesn't matter too much.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>Jon
Stangely enough I disagree. The last series I found a bit wanting. Each
episode had them finding themselves in some opposite form, or fighting
some form of ego, etc.
Now at least it has a theme, the ablity to move on to better story lines.
so what if it does follow the Sci-fi format, that is what it is
parodying. (sp?)
More tabasco sauce on my cornflakes please...
Just my opinion etc
Paul.
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David Carter
> Well, I'm not entirely convinced that "Red Dwarf: The Search for Red
> Dwarf" is such a hot idea, but I can't argue with the fact that it was
> very, very funny in places. ("Starbug's crashed more times than a
> ZX81").
This was the one line that made us all laugh in my house. The rest was
greeted with a rather stony silence. Compared to the endless guffaws of
laughter that met the first few series, it felt rather tired. It didn't help
that they spent a lot of time reintroducing the characters [apart from the
magical reappearance of Cat].
I guess "what's a ZX81" is another few lines in the FAQ for our American
friends.
> I've got to say though that the way it ended gives me deep forebodings
> along the lines of Quantum Leap, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc,
> etc. Each episode is part of a quest - in this case to find the Short
> Crimson One - "Its ongoing mission, to seek out large red mining ships,
> to boldly go where lots of Sci-Fi has gone before". Still, if they can
> get the gags in, I suppose it doesn't matter too much.
I have this nasty feeling that it's a budget saving mechanism, and the
entire of the series is going to focus around Starbug. Is it my imagination
or have they added on a couple of extra rooms/sets to make it look larger.
Psirens looked very cheap and nasty. Yes, I know Red Dwarf is supposed to
look cheap and nasty, but this looked more like some of the infamous Dr. Who
episodes with Bonnie Langford.
Rather disappointed. Ok well, I suppose session V was a bit patchy, so can
hope to look forward to the odd gem yet.
Dave
BTW, how do you like Red Dwarf being described by the Guardian as "SciFi
comedy and geek magnet" !?
John J Smith
David Carter <car...@danno.compsci.bristol.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've got to say though that the way it ended gives me deep forebodings
>> along the lines of Quantum Leap, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc,
>> etc. Each episode is part of a quest - in this case to find the Short
>> Crimson One - "Its ongoing mission, to seek out large red mining ships,
>> to boldly go where lots of Sci-Fi has gone before". Still, if they can
>> get the gags in, I suppose it doesn't matter too much.
>
Cor don't all the brits come flying out of the woodwork when a new series of
the Dwarf comes on. bristol, glasgow, birmingham. All the americans must be
pretty bemused by the amount of smug gits sitting in this newsgroup at the
mo :>
I welcome the new Starbug format with open arms. A bit of a new setting
gives opportunity to try new things. Red Dwarf was too vast, but a
familiar setting for each episode may allow strange new ideas based on
objects you recognise from previous episodes, ie: garbage system fitted
in nicely, couldn't have seen it really work on the Dwarf, which was more
of a 'We've found a time machine on deck 234456.' typa thing.
Maybe Grant Naylor thought they were stagnating in the same setting.
> I have this nasty feeling that it's a budget saving mechanism, and the
>entire of the series is going to focus around Starbug. Is it my imagination
>or have they added on a couple of extra rooms/sets to make it look larger.
> Psirens looked very cheap and nasty. Yes, I know Red Dwarf is supposed to
>look cheap and nasty, but this looked more like some of the infamous Dr. Who
>episodes with Bonnie Langford.
You can't do much about budgets in the BBC if thats the case.
>
> Rather disappointed. Ok well, I suppose session V was a bit patchy, so can
>hope to look forward to the odd gem yet.
>
Yeah series 5 was a duffer, apart from Back to Reality.
>BTW, how do you like Red Dwarf being described by the Guardian as "SciFi
>comedy and geek magnet" !?
>
Cool line. Geek Magnet! ROTFL.
Smid
Warren Vonroeschlaub
Roch-berry) writes:
>I've got to say though that the way it ended gives me deep forebodings
>along the lines of Quantum Leap, Lost in Space, Land of the Giants, etc,
>etc. Each episode is part of a quest - in this case to find the Short
>Crimson One - "Its ongoing mission, to seek out large red mining ships,
>to boldly go where lots of Sci-Fi has gone before". Still, if they can
>get the gags in, I suppose it doesn't matter too much.
Well, it isn't like I saw it or anything (forgot to include proper postage)
but I understand what you mean.
I have always been torn between which I find worse: the show that always ends
with the beginning of the next show or the show that always ends with everything
exactly back the way it was at the beginning of the episode.
I think that's part of what I really liked about seasons I and II. They
actually developed and things really happened. Nothing about crappy Amerikan TV
shows annoys me more than the total lack of development (the Gilligan's Island
syndrom if you will) where everything ends exactly how it started so it doesn't
matter what order you watch the episodes in.
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Ron O'Dell
As for the comment saying, "Gee, it's Red Dwarf but the ship itself
isn't even there any more," I have two words: Blake's Seven.
As for "Americans won't understand jokes about the ZX81," I thought
Timex was an American company. I've seen and used plenty of ZX81s.
The only thing that'll confuse Americans is that funny pronunciation.
Really, I mean, you can't even even sing the A-B-C song in the UK,
because it wouldn't rhyme any more... Hmm, maybe that's why we say
the last letter differently -- for the rhyme!
Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
instead of "zed."
... I am correct in my memory of "Timex Sinclair ZX81," aren't I?
Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
product of British techonological might.
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Jon Roch-berry
>Timex was an American company. I've seen and used plenty of ZX81s.
>The only thing that'll confuse Americans is that funny pronunciation.
I was just about to pounce on you when you wrote...
>... I am correct in my memory of "Timex Sinclair ZX81," aren't I?
>Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
>product of British techonological might.
You're quite correct. The ZX-81 was designed by Sir Clive Sinclair (or Uncle
Clive to most of us), and Timex marketed it in the US.
James Hayes
|> Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
|> instead of "zed."
oh yeah! Who say's Kryten was made in America? Or that the British way of
pronouncing the letter "z" won't predominate by the 23rd or whatever century RD
is set in? OK, OK, possibly the Cat will but maybe the old American tv shows
that the cat's learned language from had been overdubed by the time of RD!?
Sorry if this is a flamer (I'm still not sure what this word means?!) but it had
to be said.
|> Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
|> product of British techonological might.
|>
Er... I think Timex bought out Sinclair when the latter got into financial
trouble and hence needed help. I think that Timex provided the chips for the
ZX81 but they didn't design the chips or the computer.
(If I'm wrong please tell me. I dislike living under false pretences!)
James
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Ron O'Dell
>oh yeah! Who say's Kryten was made in America? Or that the British way of
>pronouncing the letter "z" won't predominate by the 23rd or whatever century RD
>is set in? OK, OK, possibly the Cat will but maybe the old American tv shows
>that the cat's learned language from had been overdubed by the time of RD!?
Kryten says.
"I found it on Z (`zee') deck ... " --Meltdown
I can't remember -- was the line in Psirens about Starbug having crashed
more than a ZX81 spoken by Kryten? Which pronunciation did he use there?
And, of course, RD is set in the, er, 3.000.023rd-or-whatever century...!
But when was Kryten made? Well, that's never been documented.
Oh, hang on, you can add a couple of centuries to that now.
Silver Omega
> "I found it on Z (`zee') deck ... " --Meltdown
>
> I can't remember -- was the line in Psirens about Starbug having crashed
> more than a ZX81 spoken by Kryten? Which pronunciation did he use there?
I think he said "Zed", because I don't think I'd have recognised the
brand name otherwise. Or if I had, the "strange" pronunciation would
have stuck in my mind ... :-)
Oddly enough, I'd probably say `zee' deck as well (Sesame Street
strikes again!) but always `Zed-ex-eighty-one' (BTW, despite the
mail address, I'm from New Zealand).
Harry.
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Duncan Ferguson
SPOILER ALERT
> I think that's part of what I really liked about seasons I and II. They
> actually developed and things really happened.
There is a little more developement in the new series, like having laser capabilites
built onto starbug by Legion, and an AR suite (used in Gunmen of the Apocolypse), and
Rimmers hard-light capability.
This new series does have to flow in a particular order for most of the episodes,
and whatever people think of the first episode, it can only get better.
Remember what people said about Holoship when RDV was first show. The series improved
all the time as Lister, Rimmer, the cat and Kryten got back into the acting side
of the series.
One thing I can say about the new series is that the special effects are a lot better
even if you did just about get to see Starbugs supporting string in one scene.
I am all for the new series. Wouldn't be without it.
Cat: There is a cat phrase i think suits this situation - its better to live an hour
as a tiger then a life as a worm.
Rimmer: There is a human saying as well, who has ever heard of a worm skin rug?
(sorry if its slightly mis-quoted, but its from memory :O) )
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>In article <2951e6$c...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, kee...@cats.ucsc.edu (Ron O'Dell) writes:
>
>|> Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
>|> instead of "zed."
I remember at the time of the Gulf Conflict BBC News had to decide whether to
pronounce Patriot Missile as "pattriot" (proper English) or "paytriot"
(bastardised American slang English), and the outcome was that it was an
American trade name they decided to use "paytriot". Perhaps Kryten is just
following this convention.
Then again, do americans say "zed ex 81"? Do Brits say "diynasty"? Where is my
purple-edged underwater chocolate mincer?
Charlie
Greg O'Rear
>Then again, do americans say "zed ex 81"? Do Brits say "diynasty"?
Americans, as a rule, do not pronounce "Z" as "zed"; we call it "zee".
We also call "0" "zero" or "oh", not "nought".
Remember in "Camille" when Kryten is expressing his love for Camille, he says
something like "Converting to hexidecimal [sic; it should be hexadecimal] to
an ASC-2 code [sic; it should be ASCII, pronounced "asskee" (he apparently
thought "II" was a Roman numeral)], I ?? ?? ?? ?? you." I don't know what
the codes were he gave, but I'm pretty sure the first one was "E5", which is
unprintable! He should have said "I 6C 6F 76 65 you", but that was probably
too repetitious for TV.
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Freddie
In article <29bpgc$l...@bigguy.eng.ufl.edu>, gr...@irl.ise.ufl.edu (Greg O'Rear) writes:
|> c...@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce) writes:
|> >Then again, do americans say "zed ex 81"? Do Brits say "diynasty"?
|>
|> Americans, as a rule, do not pronounce "Z" as "zed"; we call it "zee".
|> We also call "0" "zero" or "oh", not "nought".
|> Remember in "Camille" when Kryten is expressing his love for Camille, he says
|> something like "Converting to hexidecimal [sic; it should be hexadecimal] to
|> an ASC-2 code [sic; it should be ASCII, pronounced "asskee" (he apparently
|> thought "II" was a Roman numeral)], I ?? ?? ?? ?? you." I don't know what
|> the codes were he gave, but I'm pretty sure the first one was "E5", which is
|> unprintable! He should have said "I 6C 6F 76 65 you", but that was probably
|> too repetitious for TV.
Don't forget "/". In the States its "slash", in the UK its "stroke".
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I dunno, ZX81 is pronounced more like a name than a serial number....
Anyway, I've still got both my ZX81's, although one is currently being
butchered and made to look like a cybermodem for live roleplaying Shadowrun....
Steve.
Warren Vonroeschlaub
(Silver Omega) writes:
>> I can't remember -- was the line in Psirens about Starbug having crashed
>> more than a ZX81 spoken by Kryten? Which pronunciation did he use there?
>
>I think he said "Zed", because I don't think I'd have recognised the
>brand name otherwise. Or if I had, the "strange" pronunciation would
>have stuck in my mind ... :-)
I would have trouble recognizing the name if it wasn't a `Zee-ex-eighty-one'
> Oddly enough, I'd probably say `zee' deck as well (Sesame Street
> strikes again!) but always `Zed-ex-eighty-one' (BTW, despite the
> mail address, I'm from New Zealand).
Don't you mean New Zedland?
Jeff Lee
> In <CEp4J...@festival.ed.ac.uk> p91...@cplab.ph.ed.ac.uk (James Hayes) writes:
>
>>oh yeah! Who say's Kryten was made in America? Or that the British way of
>>pronouncing the letter "z" won't predominate by the 23rd or whatever century RD
>>is set in? OK, OK, possibly the Cat will but maybe the old American tv shows
>>that the cat's learned language from had been overdubed by the time of RD!?
>
> Kryten says.
>
> "I found it on Z (`zee') deck ... " --Meltdown
However, in `Camille', when Kryten says:
Okay. In Z80012, using hex rather than
binary, and converting to a basic ASC-2 code:
Camille, I think I E5 A9 08 B7 you.
he definitely pronounces it as `zed'.
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He used the standard english pronunciation -Zed.
But Kryten is meant to sound like the DJs who try to put on Ammericanised
accents to make them sound cool to audiences of below average intelegence.
(I can't believe I started all that again) As in a Mid-Atlantic, i.e not
quite all the way to the US accent.
BTW why do Ammericans have trouble with Standard English and British slang
words when we have no trouble with Ammerican English or Ammerican Slang.
Or indead why do Australasians have so little trouble either? (i'm posting
this to the wrong group arn't I).
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|> In article <29a3a9$r...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, kee...@cats.ucsc.edu (Ron O'Dell) writes:
|> >
|> > I can't remember -- was the line in Psirens about Starbug having crashed
|> > more than a ZX81 spoken by Kryten? Which pronunciation did he use there?
|> >
It was Kryten. He said "zed".
TM
Greg O'Rear
>BTW why do Ammericans have trouble with Standard English and British slang
>words when we have no trouble with Ammerican English or Ammerican Slang.
Well, we AMERICANS (that's one "m", not two), in general, get less exposure
to British culture than you do to ours. In the US, to hear British English
being spoken, one must watch PBS (either Masterpiece Theatre or comedy shows).
In the UK, don't you get several US import shows (Dallas and Quantum Leap and
Star Trek, etc.)? If the UK has more exposure to American idiom, I guess it's
reasonable to expect you to become familiar with it.
And we don't have anything like cockney rhyming slang here. It's hard enough
to understand some of the accents, let alone accents in code. I mean, even
an English friend had trouble understanding Jimmy in "Quadrophenia":
"...all that greasy hair and dirty clobber...it's diabolical!", which sounded
more like "ooo da greezy hair and dirrie clo-uh...iss duhbuhhhcoo!" Now,
if he was also trying to say things like "Do what? Knock it on the head,
as it happens, my little thunderbird puppet!", you can imagine the difficulty.
The Sandman
> In article <CEp4J...@festival.ed.ac.uk> p91...@cplab.ph.ed.ac.uk (James Hayes) writes:
> >In article <2951e6$c...@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, kee...@cats.ucsc.edu (Ron O'Dell) writes:
> >
> >|> Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
> >|> instead of "zed."
No way! It's a ZedEx81 wherever you're from. How could anyone say 'Zee Ex 81'?
It just doesn't work..
Jim
"I'm almost annoyed!" - Kryten
Chris Jerram
|> Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
|> instead of "zed."
>oh yeah! Who say's Kryten was made in America? Or that the British way of
>pronouncing the letter "z" won't predominate by the 23rd or whatever century RD
>is set in? OK, OK, possibly the Cat will but maybe the old American tv shows
>that the cat's learned language from had been overdubed by the time of RD!?
|> Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
|> product of British techonological might.
|>
>Er... I think Timex bought out Sinclair when the latter got into financial
>trouble and hence needed help. I think that Timex provided the chips for the
>ZX81 but they didn't design the chips or the computer.
Sinclair sold out to Amstrad. He still produces new designs, but sells
them to other companies to marufacture and Market. Amstrad is a very
british company, even if they use foriegn manufacturers.
The Z80 chip was made by Zilog.
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|>
|> Don't forget "/". In the States its "slash", in the UK its "stroke".
|>
Er, I'm English and I have always said "slash".
Ian J
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DF>There is a little more developement in the new series, like having laser
DF>capabilites built onto starbug by Legion,
They make any reference to the SSS Esperanto during any of this?
DF>Remember what people said about Holoship when RDV was first show. The
Hey! Holoship is tied for my favorite of Season 5. I like Holoship and
Back to Reality the best from that season (You Twonk! - Great line)
That reminds me. Another rumour I'm hearing is that when Season V is
released on vids in the UK, Holoship is to have extra footage that
wasn't originally broadcast. Anyone know anything about that?
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>As for "Americans won't understand jokes about the ZX81," I thought
>Timex was an American company. I've seen and used plenty of ZX81s.
>The only thing that'll confuse Americans is that funny pronunciation.
>Really, I mean, you can't even even sing the A-B-C song in the UK,
>because it wouldn't rhyme any more... Hmm, maybe that's why we say
>the last letter differently -- for the rhyme!
>Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
>instead of "zed."
Try to remember who actually "invented" the English alphabet. You yanks just
modified it to your own liking. *smirk*
>... I am correct in my memory of "Timex Sinclair ZX81," aren't I?
>Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
>product of British techonological might.
The Sinclair ZX81 was designed and built by Sir Clive Sinclair who is very
much an Englishman.
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>
> BTW why do Ammericans have trouble with Standard English and British slang
> words when we have no trouble with Ammerican English or Ammerican Slang.
Probably because a lot more American movies and TV shows (er, programmes)
make it over to England than the other way around.
The only ones I usually have trouble with are Cockney rhyming slang (when
spoken, rather than printed) and things like `Bob's your uncle', but I can
generally figure them out from the context.
Jeff Lee
Americans do. Well, *most* Americans do. Also, the old processor chip
is pronounced `zee-eighty' rather than `zed-eighty'; the transfer protocol
is `zee-modem', and the alphabet rhymes.
John J Smith
Apogee Software <apogee....@canrem.com> wrote:
>
>DF>There is a little more developement in the new series, like having laser
>DF>capabilites built onto starbug by Legion,
>
>They make any reference to the SSS Esperanto during any of this?
Nope, but it is supposed to be 200 years later so I suppose lasers could have
been added. Mind you, sounds a bit of a cop out really.
>
>DF>Remember what people said about Holoship when RDV was first show. The
>
>Hey! Holoship is tied for my favorite of Season 5. I like Holoship and
>Back to Reality the best from that season (You Twonk! - Great line)
>
>That reminds me. Another rumour I'm hearing is that when Season V is
>released on vids in the UK, Holoship is to have extra footage that
>wasn't originally broadcast. Anyone know anything about that?
Not heard about it. Think V might have been out on vid for a while now,
but I've lost touch with the Smegazine because I got bored with it...
Smid
Duncan Ferguson
>That reminds me. Another rumour I'm hearing is that when Season V is
>released on vids in the UK, Holoship is to have extra footage that
>wasn't originally broadcast. Anyone know anything about that?
From various sources I have heard there _MAY_ be another extra 10 minutes
for holoship. I dont know why they dont do it for the whole series, and replace
the bits that they couldnt fit into the 30 minutes. Much more watchable then.
---
Ah-ha - I have found my .sig thingy. Here is a sig for your enjoyment.
Cat: There is a Cat proverb that says 'Better to live an hour as a tiger, rather than
a life as a worm`.
Rimmer: There is a human proverb as well - who ever heard of a worm skin rug?
(Red Dwarf, Series 6, Psirens)
Duncan Ferguson
SPOILER.....
In article 3...@fulcrum.co.uk, sm...@fulcrum.co.uk (John J Smith) writes:
>In article <60.5392.29...@canrem.com>,
>Apogee Software <apogee....@canrem.com> wrote:
>>
>>DF>There is a little more developement in the new series, like having laser
>>DF>capabilites built onto starbug by Legion,
>>
>>They make any reference to the SSS Esperanto during any of this?
>
>Nope, but it is supposed to be 200 years later so I suppose lasers could have
>been added. Mind you, sounds a bit of a cop out really.
>
The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
hard light capability as well.
---
Ah-ha - I have found my .sig thingy. Here is a sig for your enjoyment.
Cat: There is a Cat saying that says 'Better to live an hour as a tiger, rather than
a life as a worm.
Rimmer: There is a human saying - who ever heard of a worm skin rug?
aka. Zunt the Hairy.
>
> |> Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
> |> product of British techonological might.
> |>
>
> Er... I think Timex bought out Sinclair when the latter got into financial
> trouble and hence needed help. I think that Timex provided the chips for the
> ZX81 but they didn't design the chips or the computer.
>
> (If I'm wrong please tell me. I dislike living under false pretences!)
>
The ZX81 was designed by Sir Clive (God bless him), and was manufactured
and sold in the US by Timex. As I remember the Timex version was slightly
more stable than the UK version for various reasons (better glue I think).
However it was Amstrad (spit) who bought out Sinclair when they ran out of
money, a sad day in the world of computing that I will always remember (unless
my 16k RAM pack falls off).
If this message appears all wrong then it is probably because this is my first
ever posting to a newsgroup, with a newsreader that has limited help, and with
an editor I have never used. Thank you for your patience.
Jon Roch-berry
>However it was Amstrad (spit) who bought out Sinclair when they ran out of
>money, a sad day in the world of computing that I will always remember (unless
>my 16k RAM pack falls off).
ROTFL! `I laughed and laughed until I stopped'.
Regards
Jon
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Ron O'Dell
>BTW why do Ammericans have trouble with Standard English and British slang
>words when we have no trouble with Ammerican English or Ammerican Slang.
>Or indead why do Australasians have so little trouble either? (i'm posting
>this to the wrong group arn't I).
Probably because of the number of television channels. The average
American household receives about 35 television channels, and more and
more locations are getting more than 60 channels. Americans just don't
bother watching British things when there's so much domestic crap to
view.
Pat Berry
>Ron O'Dell (kee...@cats.ucsc.edu) theorised:
>>Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
>>instead of "zed."
>Try to remember who actually "invented" the English alphabet. You yanks just
>modified it to your own liking. *smirk*
Better wipe off that smirk. You're using the Roman alphabet. Most of the
letters are derived from symbols invented by the Phoenicians around 1000 BC,
when the English were still living in trees.
--
Pat Berry | "It's football season again, and I know I speak
Cary, North Carolina, USA | for everybody in North America when I make the
Happy user of OS/2 2.1 | following statement: rah." -- Dave Barry
but...@waikato.ac.nz
>> No way! It's a ZedEx81 wherever you're from. How could anyone say 'Zee Ex 81'?
>> It just doesn't work..
>
> Americans do. Well, *most* Americans do. Also, the old processor chip
> is pronounced `zee-eighty' rather than `zed-eighty'; the transfer protocol
> is `zee-modem', and the alphabet rhymes.
Ah, but does it terminate?
--
Bryce Utting ()Z | Life is short.
University of Waikato |
Apothecary Computers | Pray hard.
Stuart Foster
In article <669-JN...@smylex.UUCP> jl...@smylex.UUCP writes:
> Also, the old processor chip is pronounced `zee-eighty' rather than
> `zed-eighty'
Funny.. Always thought of that as the 'zed-80'
> the transfer protocol is `zee-modem'
and 'zed-modem'. (Too bloody english down-under, even colour has a 'u' in it)
> and the alphabet rhymes.
only in triplets.
if you try saying it in 13 letter lots you end up with m not rhyming with z
:-)
kew@pinn
David K Fraser
>SPOILER.....
>The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
>simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
>He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
>hard light capability as well.
Um... I think you've gotten a bit mixed up here. The info I have states that
the laser capability was added by then rogue simulants in "Gunmen Of The
Apocolypse". Legion had nothing to do with it... but he did give Rimmer his
hard-light form, as well as curing Lister's appendicitis(sp).
-- David F.
--
David K Fraser | "It will be happened; it shall be going to be
Computing Science Student | happening; it will be was an event that could
Glasgow University | will have been taken place in the future."
e-mail: fras...@dcs.gla.ac.uk | --time travel explained by Rimmer (Red Dwarf)
Freddie
In article <CEw2x...@newcastle.ac.uk>, a.g.j...@durham.ac.uk (A G Jackson) writes:
|> In article <CEvpK...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, fras...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David K Fraser) writes:
|> |> ferg...@cs.aston.ac.uk (Duncan Ferguson) writes:
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> >SPOILER.....
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> >The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
|> |> >simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
|> |> >He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
|> |> >hard light capability as well.
|> |>
|> |> Um... I think you've gotten a bit mixed up here. The info I have states that
|> |> the laser capability was added by then rogue simulants in "Gunmen Of The
|> |> Apocolypse". Legion had nothing to do with it... but he did give Rimmer his
|> |> hard-light form, as well as curing Lister's appendicitis(sp).
|>
|> he was dating Lise Yates (sp?).
|>
|> Adrian
Good point! Remember in "Thanks for the Memory", Lister downloaded his
summer with her into Rimmer's memory? And when he told Rimmer, he said it
explained a lot of things...like how he was an orphan, yet both his parents
were still alive and how he had has his appendix removed...twice. Ergo, Lister
must have had his appendix removed as well.
A G Jackson
|>
|>
|> >SPOILER.....
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|> >The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
|> >simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
|> >He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
|> >hard light capability as well.
|>
|> Um... I think you've gotten a bit mixed up here. The info I have states that
|> the laser capability was added by then rogue simulants in "Gunmen Of The
|> Apocolypse". Legion had nothing to do with it... but he did give Rimmer his
|> hard-light form, as well as curing Lister's appendicitis(sp).
How can Lister have appendicitis? He already had his appendix taken out when
he was dating Lise Yates (sp?).
Adrian
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Pat Berry
>In <935312...@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> Chris Jerram<EEE9...@IBM3090.Bham.AC.UK> writes:
>>BTW why do Ammericans have trouble with Standard English and British slang
>>words when we have no trouble with Ammerican English or Ammerican Slang.
>>Or indead why do Australasians have so little trouble either? (i'm posting
>>this to the wrong group arn't I).
>Probably because of the number of television channels. The average
>American household receives about 35 television channels, and more and
>more locations are getting more than 60 channels. Americans just don't
>bother watching British things when there's so much domestic crap to
>view.
Heh. I work at a company that's developing the technology to provide you
with 1500 channels. Really.
David K Fraser
>In article <CEw2x...@newcastle.ac.uk>, a.g.j...@durham.ac.uk (A G Jackson) writes:
>|> In article <CEvpK...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, fras...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David K Fraser) writes:
>|> |> ferg...@cs.aston.ac.uk (Duncan Ferguson) writes:
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |> >SPOILER.....
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |>
>|> |> >The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
>|> |> >simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
>|> |> >He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
>|> |> >hard light capability as well.
>|> |>
>|> |> Um... I think you've gotten a bit mixed up here. The info I have states that
>|> |> the laser capability was added by then rogue simulants in "Gunmen Of The
>|> |> Apocolypse". Legion had nothing to do with it... but he did give Rimmer his
>|> |> hard-light form, as well as curing Lister's appendicitis(sp).
>|>
>|> How can Lister have appendicitis? He already had his appendix taken out when
>|> he was dating Lise Yates (sp?).
>|>
>|> Adrian
> Good point! Remember in "Thanks for the Memory", Lister downloaded his
>summer with her into Rimmer's memory? And when he told Rimmer, he said it
>explained a lot of things...like how he was an orphan, yet both his parents
>were still alive and how he had has his appendix removed...twice. Ergo, Lister
>must have had his appendix removed as well.
I'm having this horrible feeling of deja vu... we've discussed all this before!
OK, OK, here's an idea: at the time of "Thanks For The Memory", Lister was not
exactlt the most technically competent character in the world. Yet here he is,
mucking around in Rimmer's memory, sticking in bits of his own.
Now, memories are tricky things. Nobody is quite sure how they are stored, but
the best guess at the moment is that they are stored as a series of associationsnot facts, scattered around the brain, for purposes of redundancy. What if, in
all his mucking around, Lister caused a chunk of Rimmer's memory - the one
containing his appendix operation - to repeat itself?
Mik Stevens
|>
|>
|> >SPOILER.....
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|>
|> >The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
|> >simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
|> >He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
|> >hard light capability as well.
|>
|> Um... I think you've gotten a bit mixed up here. The info I have states that
|> the laser capability was added by then rogue simulants in "Gunmen Of The
|> Apocolypse". Legion had nothing to do with it... but he did give Rimmer his
|> hard-light form, as well as curing Lister's appendicitis(sp).
Davis is, of course, correct. Helps that I'm his info source. But of course
we'll all know this after watching Legion last night. I don't believe in a
big discusion about this episode because it was just soooooo funny. Those
chopsticks, I was dying.
mik
Mik Stevens
This point can be easily resolved as this was mentioned to Grant Naylor at the
RD convention this year. I refered to it in the resume I posted. They looked a
bit confused for a couple of seconds and then said "Well errrr, humans may have more
than one appendix in the future !!!" SO, basically, they messed up, but they don't
care about continuity.
mik
Mario Gianota
>In <1993Oct13.0...@aurora.dar.csiro.au> spm@atmos (McEWAN Shane) writes:
>>Ron O'Dell (kee...@cats.ucsc.edu) theorised:
>
>>>Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
>>>instead of "zed."
>
>>Try to remember who actually "invented" the English alphabet. You yanks just
>>modified it to your own liking. *smirk*
>
>Better wipe off that smirk. You're using the Roman alphabet. Most of the
>letters are derived from symbols invented by the Phoenicians around 1000 BC,
>when the English were still living in trees.
-- And the 'Americans' were living in Britain. Remember the Mayflower?
I have always had a particularly strong aversion to those who promote and
maintain racial prejudice. Whether this prejudice is exhibited through innoccuous comments or violence is immaterial. This news group is here to discuss Red Dwarf and comments from American subscribers such as the one above are totally unecessary and serve only to incur the wrath of the British readers. Give it a rest, Ok?
--Mario >:-(
ma...@fronta.aber.ac.uk
Comp Sci
Aberystwyth University
David Crowson
-->
-->In article <CEw2x...@newcastle.ac.uk>, a.g.j...@durham.ac.uk (A G Jackson) writes:
-->|> In article <CEvpK...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, fras...@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David K Fraser) writes:
-->|> |> ferg...@cs.aston.ac.uk (Duncan Ferguson) writes:
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |> >SPOILER.....
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |>
-->|> |> >The laser capability wasnt added by the crew, Legion did it (namely a rogue
-->|> |> >simulant) because he wanted someone to fight, but the 'bug wasnt armed.
-->|> |> >He wanted some competition. I think this is where Rimmer gets his
-->|> |> >hard light capability as well.
-->|> |>
-->|> |> Um... I think you've gotten a bit mixed up here. The info I have states that
-->|> |> the laser capability was added by then rogue simulants in "Gunmen Of The
-->|> |> Apocolypse". Legion had nothing to do with it... but he did give Rimmer his
-->|> |> hard-light form, as well as curing Lister's appendicitis(sp).
-->|>
-->|> How can Lister have appendicitis? He already had his appendix taken out when
-->|> he was dating Lise Yates (sp?).
-->|>
-->|> Adrian
-->
--> Good point! Remember in "Thanks for the Memory", Lister downloaded his
-->summer with her into Rimmer's memory? And when he told Rimmer, he said it
-->explained a lot of things...like how he was an orphan, yet both his parents
-->were still alive and how he had has his appendix removed...twice. Ergo, Lister
-->must have had his appendix removed as well.
Well He does have it removed and Rimmer does get Hard Light and Legion doesn't give
Starbug any weapons. Nuff said.
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ajmor...@happy.uccs.edu
>
>
>
> As for the comment saying, "Gee, it's Red Dwarf but the ship itself
> isn't even there any more," I have two words: Blake's Seven.
>
> As for "Americans won't understand jokes about the ZX81," I thought
> Timex was an American company. I've seen and used plenty of ZX81s.
> The only thing that'll confuse Americans is that funny pronunciation.
If I can remember back to the mists of my pre-teen years, I think I had a ZX81.
It was a little flat black thing with no keys. just the flat thing with the
letters printed on it. I used to sign on Compuspend with it, Using our
"Volksmodem". I think this was even before I had that huge crush on Sting when
I was 13. (smacking herself for engaging in such an Xer cliche display of '80s
nostalgia.)
> Really, I mean, you can't even even sing the A-B-C song in the UK,
> because it wouldn't rhyme any more... Hmm, maybe that's why we say
> the last letter differently -- for the rhyme!
It's funny, I bought an alphabet program for my 4 year old, and it has the
option to change the pronunciation from "ZEE" to "Zed". However, it sounds
extremely weird in the high pitched American accent of whoever they hired to do
the voice for it.
> Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
> instead of "zed."
Kryten says "zed" in Camille. He's supposed to sound Canadian--do Canadians
say "zee" or "zed"?
>
> ... I am correct in my memory of "Timex Sinclair ZX81," aren't I?
>
> Perhaps Timex only was the American distributor of that wonderful
> product of British techonological might.
>
Yeah, I think that was it.
> --
> Ron O'Dell `Keeper' kee...@armory.com kee...@cats.ucsc.edu kee...@ucscb.ucsc.edu
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Amy Morrison-- ajmor...@uccs.edu
"For was it not written in the Electronic Bible (Authorized Panasonic Version):
'And some will come among ye, and yea, from their mouths shall come doubts. But
turn ye from them; heed them not. For it is harder for a 'droid who
disbelieveth to pass through the gates of Silicon Heaven than it is for a
DIN-DIN coaxial cable to connect up to a standard European SCART socket.'"
--Grant Naylor, "Better Than Life"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ajmor...@happy.uccs.edu
> In article <+KJvsAF...@berry.Cary.NC.US> p...@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>>In <1993Oct13.0...@aurora.dar.csiro.au> spm@atmos (McEWAN Shane) writes:
>>>Ron O'Dell (kee...@cats.ucsc.edu) theorised:
>
>>>modified it to your own liking. *smirk*
>>
>>Better wipe off that smirk. You're using the Roman alphabet. Most of the
>>letters are derived from symbols invented by the Phoenicians around 1000 BC,
>>when the English were still living in trees.
>
> -- And the 'Americans' were living in Britain. Remember the Mayflower?
> I have always had a particularly strong aversion to those who promote and
> maintain racial prejudice. Whether this prejudice is exhibited through
innoccuous comments or violence is immaterial. This news group is here to
discuss Red Dwarf and comments from American subscribers such as the one
above are totally unecessary and serve only to incur the wrath of the British
readers. Give it a rest, Ok?
>
> --Mario >:-(
> ma...@fronta.aber.ac.uk
> Comp Sci
> Aberystwyth University
>
YOU give it a rest. By the same token, it is very prejudicial and ethno-centric
of you to assume that all future Americans ancestors were living in Britian.
Most of my ancestors were living in Sicily, despite my Scottish last name.
What about the Native Americans--who were in fact living in America at that
time, and not on the Mayflower as you seem to think? American's ancestors came
from every conceivable place around the world, or perhaps you think only those
of British ancestry count?
Don't try to politcally correct me, boyo--I'll give it back to you in spades!
Timothy John Walls
|> YOU give it a rest. By the same token, it is very prejudicial and ethno-centric
|> of you to assume that all future Americans ancestors were living in Britian.
[... blather removed ...]
|> Don't try to politcally correct me, boyo--I'll give it back to you in spades!
Marvellous! Just so long as we are all using the correct newsgroup to discuss
our ancestry and related political correctness...
Umm. alt.tv.red-dwarf _is_ the right newsgroup, isn't it?
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Pat Berry
>In article <+KJvsAF...@berry.Cary.NC.US> p...@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>>In <1993Oct13.0...@aurora.dar.csiro.au> spm@atmos (McEWAN Shane) writes:
>>>Ron O'Dell (kee...@cats.ucsc.edu) theorised:
>>
>>>>Of course, if Kryten or Cat is saying `ZX81', they'll say "zee"
>>>>instead of "zed."
>>
>>>Try to remember who actually "invented" the English alphabet. You yanks just
>>>modified it to your own liking. *smirk*
>>
>>Better wipe off that smirk. You're using the Roman alphabet. Most of the
>>letters are derived from symbols invented by the Phoenicians around 1000 BC,
>>when the English were still living in trees.
>-- And the 'Americans' were living in Britain. Remember the Mayflower?
Contrary to popular belief, not all Americans are descended from the folks
who came over on the Mayflower. Some of them aren't even descended from
English ancestors at all, if you can imagine such a thing.
> I have always had a particularly strong aversion to those who promote and
>maintain racial prejudice. Whether this prejudice is exhibited through
>innoccuous comments or violence is immaterial.
I agree. But none of that is happening here.
>This news group is here to
>discuss Red Dwarf and comments from American subscribers such as the one
>above are totally unecessary and serve only to incur the wrath of the
>British readers. Give it a rest, Ok?
I suggest that you get a sense of humor. Mr. McShane made a tongue-in-cheek
comment about the inventors of "the English alphabet," and I simply responded
by pointing out that there is no such thing. My reference to the English
living in trees was meant to be humorous, although it isn't very far from the
truth -- most of Europe was in a pretty barbarous state at the time.
And I certainly mean nothing personal. My own ancestors were living in
trees in Ireland at the time. So chill out!
C D'Aubergine
:
: |> c...@cs.nott.ac.uk (Charlie Pearce) writes:
:
: Don't forget "/". In the States its "slash", in the UK its "stroke".
Is it?? That's news to me! Maybe I 'm in the wrong country!
Well according to the weather it's pretty Englandy out there...
'Brits' also tend to say "dinnasty" although some pronounce it
"die-nasty" out of spite (Moi? How could you possibly suspect me?).
Aub,
Shane Derek Killian
>friends.
>
Note to whomever puts this in the FAQ: The Sinclair ZX-80 and ZX-81 were
sold in America. In fact, a friend of mind has both. Later, it (the ZX-81)
was resold as the Timex-Sinclair 1000. This, if memory serves, was the
early '80s.
Those things made excellent door-stops...
TheMad...@cup.portal.com
LAURINBURG, NC USA
-----
Gravity really brings me down.
Shane Derek Killian
>actually developed and things really happened. Nothing about crappy Amerikan
T
>V
>shows annoys me more than the total lack of development (the Gilligan's Island
>syndrom if you will) where everything ends exactly how it started so it doesn'
t
>matter what order you watch the episodes in.
>
Fortunately, that trend seems to be abating in America. NYPD Blue, for
example, follows a larger plot line while still having each episode self-
contained.
Babylon 5 promises to be the same thing. They're all individual stories,
but they have everything planned out for five years.
TheMad...@cup.portal.com
LAURINBURG, NC USA
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anal region, chin absent presumed missing, genetalia small and inoffensive.
Of no value or interest." Lister, Red Dwarf: "Holoship"
Shane Derek Killian
>|> instead of "zed."
>
>pronouncing the letter "z" won't predominate by the 23rd or whatever century R
D
>is set in? OK, OK, possibly the Cat will but maybe the old American tv shows
>that the cat's learned language from had been overdubed by the time of RD!?
>
In one of the episodes, Cat says "zed" while playing Scrabble. It was
something like: JOZXQYK--The sould you make when you get your genitals
stuck in your zipper, or something like that.
TheMad...@cup.portal.com
LAURINBURG, NC USA
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Xolf
|> Note to whomever puts this in the FAQ: The Sinclair ZX-80 and ZX-81 were
|> sold in America. In fact, a friend of mind has both. Later, it (the ZX-81)
|> was resold as the Timex-Sinclair 1000. This, if memory serves, was the
|> early '80s.
Or, to be really precice and exacting, the ZX80 came out in, uhm, 1980,
and the ZX81 came out in... wait for it.. 1981. Anyone care to guess where the
numbers in the machine 'names' come from? :)
Cheers,
Xolf.
A G Jackson
|> Or, to be really precice and exacting, the ZX80 came out in, uhm, 1980,
|> and the ZX81 came out in... wait for it.. 1981. Anyone care to guess where the
|> numbers in the machine 'names' come from? :)
|> Cheers,
|> Xolf.
Certauinly would. The 80 came from the processor used in the machine - the Z80.
The 81 was because 81 is one greater than 80.
Adrian (ex-ZX80 owner)