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Shogun

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Jan 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/31/99
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This is probably a stupid question, but...

In an early episode Red Dwarf develops a stasis leak on Deck 16 (I think) and
Lister, Rimmer and Cat are able to return to the original Red Dwarf. In a
hotel, Lister and Cat find Kochanski and the old Dave in the Honeymoon Suite
and they are married. Lister keeps jabbering-on about is this or is this not
himself (Lister). Kochanski and the old Dave seem to know that Lister and the
old Dave are one and the same and say to Lister, "Wait five years and
everything will be made clear" (or words to that affect). This time line seems
really screwed-up since Lister is from 3,000,000 years in the future and may
never be able to get back in five years. And since, everyone was killed in the
radiation leak in the first place, how could this whole sequence even be
happening?

Am I just obtuse? Most of this episode doesn't make sense to me.

Addicted, but stupid!

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Lee Snaples

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On Mon, 1 Feb 1999 00:38:01 -0000, "Obscure Delusions"
<obscure....@virgin.net> wrote:

>
>nobody wrote in message <36B4F4...@nowhere.com>...
>>Obscure Delusions wrote:
>>>
>>> >I think the five years in question was five years in the life of the
>>> >Dave Lister that is on board RD with Cat, Kryten and the Hologram (as
>>> >was - haven't see RDVIII) of Rimmer. I bet he's hoping it's Claire
>>> >Grogan rather than that Chloe bird when he finally gets his end away.
>>>
>>> And just what the hell is wrong "that Chloe bird"?!?!?!
>>
>>I'd go with Chloe, But I'd be thinking of Claire.
>
>*LOL* Yeah I liked that one!!!
>


I have to agree that I like Claire better as Kochanski, but I
have another question about this episode. I showed it to a friend of
mine and he noticed that in the final scene Kochanski is on Lister's
arm but she keeps her head down the whole time and you never see her
face. Was Claire Grogan not there for that shot and somebody else
standing in for her?


Lee

nobody

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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Shogun wrote:
>
> This is probably a stupid question, but...
>
> In an early episode Red Dwarf develops a stasis leak on Deck 16 (I think) and
> Lister, Rimmer and Cat are able to return to the original Red Dwarf. In a
> hotel, Lister and Cat find Kochanski and the old Dave in the Honeymoon Suite
> and they are married. Lister keeps jabbering-on about is this or is this not
> himself (Lister). Kochanski and the old Dave seem to know that Lister and the
> old Dave are one and the same and say to Lister, "Wait five years and
> everything will be made clear" (or words to that affect). This time line seems
> really screwed-up since Lister is from 3,000,000 years in the future and may
> never be able to get back in five years. And since, everyone was killed in the
> radiation leak in the first place, how could this whole sequence even be
> happening?
>

I think the five years in question was five years in the life of the

Obscure Delusions

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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>I think the five years in question was five years in the life of the
>Dave Lister that is on board RD with Cat, Kryten and the Hologram (as
>was - haven't see RDVIII) of Rimmer. I bet he's hoping it's Claire
>Grogan rather than that Chloe bird when he finally gets his end away.

And just what the hell is wrong "that Chloe bird"?!?!?!

nobody

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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I'd go with Chloe, But I'd be thinking of Claire.

Obscure Delusions

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nobody wrote in message <36B4F4...@nowhere.com>...

*LOL* Yeah I liked that one!!!

DLister169

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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> showed it to a friend of
>mine and he noticed that in the final scene Kochanski is on Lister's
>arm but she keeps her head down the whole time and you never see her
>face. Was Claire Grogan not there for that shot and somebody else
>standing in for her?

yes. Apparently, Clare had left the building and was unaware that they needed
her for the last shot, so someone else was asked to stand in her place, which
is why you don't see her face.
- -
I never want to see or hear from that lying weasly scum-sucking smeghead again
in my entire life.

Garth

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Lee Snaples wrote:
<Snip>
> face. Was Claire Grogan not there for that shot and somebody else
> standing in for her?

Yes... Name escapes me, but I think she was one of the floor technical
staff... or something..


"Garth"
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Peter Chant

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In article <19990131225126...@ng-fc1.aol.com>,

dlist...@aol.comQ69 (DLister169) writes:
>
> yes. Apparently, Clare had left the building and was unaware that they needed
> her for the last shot, so someone else was asked to stand in her place, which
> is why you don't see her face.

Ah the old hiding one of the staff in a big hat because you've lost the
actress trick.
--
Peter Chant
pe...@neither.demon.co.uk

Steve

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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'Garth' wrote in message ...

>On Sun, 31 Jan 1999, Lee Snaples wrote:
><Snip>
>> face. Was Claire Grogan not there for that shot and somebody else
>> standing in for her?
>
>Yes... Name escapes me, but I think she was one of the floor technical
>staff... or something..


Donna Di Stefano, IIRC.

Steve

Tony Gilbert

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Feb 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/4/99
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Peter Chant writes

>> yes. Apparently, Clare had left the building and was unaware that they needed
>> her for the last shot, so someone else was asked to stand in her place, which
>> is why you don't see her face.
>
>Ah the old hiding one of the staff in a big hat because you've lost the
>actress trick.

The age old story:

Actor finds actress, actor losses actress, actor finds actress is turned
into a member of staff, actor losses member of staff, actor finds new
actress in series 7.


--
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DLister169

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Feb 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/6/99
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>The age old story:
>
>Actor finds actress, actor losses actress, actor finds actress is turned
>into a member of staff, actor losses member of staff, actor finds new
>actress in series 7.

We'll always have Parrot's.
- -
Sould I have a curry or a vindaloo as my first entree? Hmmmm....

Lee Weinert

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Don't touch that dial, dlist...@aol.comQ69 (DLister169) just wrote:

>Sould I have a curry or a vindaloo as my first entree? Hmmmm....

Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.

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other people, this sort of thing wouldn't happen.'

Peter Chant

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In article <36bf0b6a...@news.netlink.net.au>,

epi...@usa.net (Lee Weinert) writes:
> Don't touch that dial, dlist...@aol.comQ69 (DLister169) just wrote:
>
>>Sould I have a curry or a vindaloo as my first entree? Hmmmm....
>
> Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.
>

And of course phalls (spelling?) are a pleaseant and mild dish, suitable
for the first timer. ;-)

--
Peter Chant
pe...@neither.demon.co.uk

Lee Weinert

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Don't touch that dial, pe...@neither.demon.co.uk (Peter Chant) just
wrote:

>And of course phalls (spelling?) are a pleaseant and mild dish, suitable
>for the first timer. ;-)

Just remember that pride comes before a phall.

DLister169

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Feb 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/7/99
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> Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
>> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
>> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.

Thanks for the advice, guys. We stood in line at the restaurant for 30 minutes,
didn't get a table, so we went to someplace else. Maybe next time. . .
- -
Saving my tastebuds for a later experience.

Garth

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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999, Lee Weinert wrote:

> Don't touch that dial, dlist...@aol.comQ69 (DLister169) just wrote:
>
> >Sould I have a curry or a vindaloo as my first entree? Hmmmm....
>

> Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can

^^^^^^^
Balgies. Or my local indian restaurant can't spell.

> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.

meat can be dodgy.. esp. when you notice there don't appear to be any dogs
about... ;-)

Garth

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On 7 Feb 1999, DLister169 wrote:

> > Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can

> >> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
> >> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.
>

> Thanks for the advice, guys. We stood in line at the restaurant for 30 minutes,

Line? restaurant? I'm sorry, you've lost me.. Curry houses up here are
usually near empty when I go with other people... 'course we don't go till
about 10.30pm... ;-)

"Garth" - Play that funky music!

nobody

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Feb 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/8/99
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'Garth' wrote:
>
> On 7 Feb 1999, DLister169 wrote:
>
> > > Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
> > >> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
> > >> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.
> >
> > Thanks for the advice, guys. We stood in line at the restaurant for 30 minutes,
>
> Line? restaurant? I'm sorry, you've lost me.. Curry houses up here are
> usually near empty when I go with other people... 'course we don't go till
> about 10.30pm... ;-)
>

Bradford curries are without doubt the best on the planet.

Garth

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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Steve B wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:59:59 +0000, 'Garth'
<snip>

> >Line? restaurant? I'm sorry, you've lost me.. Curry houses up here are
> >usually near empty when I go with other people... 'course we don't go till
> >about 10.30pm... ;-)
> Well, when you live in the middle of America (like DLister169 and I do
> - not exactly a mecca for East Indian culture), curry houses are few
> and far between.

ah.. That was the slight snag in an otherwise faultless plan... you could
always try opening your own, but that might not be wise... not 'till you
get 3 cooks, tons of money, and a place to set it up..

> In my city of +/- 3 million people, there are only a handful of places
> that serve Tandoori. With only a few places to go, and lotsa people,
> I'd imagine lines build up rather quickly.

Can't you like, ring them up and book a table then? or is that a silly
question?

"Garth"

Steve B

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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 23:59:59 +0000, 'Garth'
<gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> typed this:

>On 7 Feb 1999, DLister169 wrote:
>
>> > Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
>> >> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
>> >> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.
>>
>> Thanks for the advice, guys. We stood in line at the restaurant for 30 minutes,
>

>Line? restaurant? I'm sorry, you've lost me.. Curry houses up here are
>usually near empty when I go with other people... 'course we don't go till
>about 10.30pm... ;-)

Well, when you live in the middle of America (like DLister169 and I do
- not exactly a mecca for East Indian culture), curry houses are few
and far between.

In my city of +/- 3 million people, there are only a handful of places


that serve Tandoori. With only a few places to go, and lotsa people,
I'd imagine lines build up rather quickly.

--
It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh
at that man.

Tony Gilbert

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Feb 8, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/8/99
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Steve B writes

>Well, when you live in the middle of America (like DLister169 and I do
>- not exactly a mecca for East Indian culture), curry houses are few
>and far between.
>
>In my city of +/- 3 million people, there are only a handful of places
>that serve Tandoori. With only a few places to go, and lotsa people,
>I'd imagine lines build up rather quickly.
>

Major opposite here ( Royal Leamington Spa, England )

In one small road there are 3 curry Houses, in the next small road
another 2, I'll have to do a full count of the town.

I wonder how many are in Coventry ?

Lee Weinert

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Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
wrote:

>> Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can

> ^^^^^^^
>Balgies. Or my local indian restaurant can't spell.

Most Indian Restaurants can't spell. You must have seen how the
spelling on menu's varies so much. Balgie? Balgie?? No way.

>> get it.) My advice is go for a chicken or meat tikka. Build your way
>> up to a vindaloo. It is rather hot.
>

>meat can be dodgy.. esp. when you notice there don't appear to be any dogs
>about... ;-)

and the passing by of a dog on a lead proves what exactly? All the
meat dishes I've had, have tasted of lamb.

Lee Weinert

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Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
wrote:

>Line? restaurant? I'm sorry, you've lost me.. Curry houses up here are


>usually near empty when I go with other people... 'course we don't go till
>about 10.30pm... ;-)

Depends. Of the 6 curry houses in Potters Bar; 3 were nearly always
empty, 2 have average custom and one 'Potters Bar Tandoori' was nearly
always packed. Excellent food and service.

Garth

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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Lee Weinert wrote:
> Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
> wrote:
> >Line? restaurant? I'm sorry, you've lost me.. Curry houses up here are
> >usually near empty when I go with other people... 'course we don't go till
> >about 10.30pm... ;-)
> Depends. Of the 6 curry houses in Potters Bar; 3 were nearly always
> empty, 2 have average custom and one 'Potters Bar Tandoori' was nearly
> always packed. Excellent food and service.

hmm, I'd prob. go in one of the average customs, or stand outside it,
'till the really good one has a table free.. or the sneeky one, and don't
try this... 'cause I only just thought of it..

if the curry house is a large one, wait for a someone who's just got out
their car (best round a corner or two, or at least not within visible
range of the curry place) then run up to them and tell them their car's
been nicked/towed away or something.. Then, as they (best to do it on
someone who's on their own.) go to check on their car, you nip and take
the place they were about to have...

failing that.... book a place in advance.. it is a restaurant as well, no?

Garth

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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Lee Weinert wrote:
> Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
> wrote:
<snip>

> >Balgies. Or my local indian restaurant can't spell.
> Most Indian Restaurants can't spell. You must have seen how the
> spelling on menu's varies so much. Balgie? Balgie?? No way.

Balgi... or at least that's what I could make out last time I checked..
;-)

<snip>


> >meat can be dodgy.. esp. when you notice there don't appear to be any dogs
> >about... ;-)
> and the passing by of a dog on a lead proves what exactly?

I meant, around here... there doesn't seem to be many dogs, stray or
otherwise round here.. (That's what I've been told... but I tend to stick
to Chicken anyway..)

> All the meat dishes I've had, have tasted of lamb.

lamb? so why do they call 'em Meat then?

Gimbal

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'Garth' wrote in message ...
>
>"Garth" - Play that funky music!

In an Indian restaurant, shouldn't that be "play that plunky music"?

Ian
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Lee Weinert

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Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
wrote:

>lamb? so why do they call 'em Meat then?

Pork ain't kosher and Cow is sacred. What have you got left? I do
prefer restaurants where it's called Lamb curry rather than meat
curry.

Lee Weinert

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Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
wrote:
>> Depends. Of the 6 curry houses in Potters Bar; 3 were nearly always
>> empty, 2 have average custom and one 'Potters Bar Tandoori' was nearly
>> always packed. Excellent food and service.
>
>failing that.... book a place in advance.. it is a restaurant as well, no?

We always booked a place.

Red Horus

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Lee Weinert <epi...@usa.net> writes

>Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
>wrote:
>

>>> Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
>> ^^^^^^^

>>Balgies. Or my local indian restaurant can't spell.
>
>Most Indian Restaurants can't spell. You must have seen how the
>spelling on menu's varies so much. Balgie? Balgie?? No way.

I think it must be to do with the transliteration from the Indian
alphabet into the Western one - I've seen it spelt "bhaji" amongst other
variations...

I've also seen "Poppodoms", "Papadoms" and probably a couple of
others...

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Garth

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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Gimbal wrote:

> 'Garth' wrote in message ...
> >
> >"Garth" - Play that funky music!
>
> In an Indian restaurant, shouldn't that be "play that plunky music"?

'suppose so..

dsp

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In article <6XpJJCAB...@nephthys.demon.co.uk>, Red Horus

<redh...@nephthys.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Lee Weinert <epi...@usa.net> writes
>
> >Don't touch that dial, 'Garth' <gw...@dcsun4.comp.brad.ac.uk> just
> >wrote:
> >
> >>> Try papadoms and onion bargies. (bindi bargie is also nice, if you can
> >> ^^^^^^^
> >>Balgies. Or my local indian restaurant can't spell.
> >
> >Most Indian Restaurants can't spell. You must have seen how the
> >spelling on menu's varies so much. Balgie? Balgie?? No way.
>
> I think it must be to do with the transliteration from the Indian
> alphabet into the Western one - I've seen it spelt "bhaji" amongst other
> variations...
>
> I've also seen "Poppodoms", "Papadoms" and probably a couple of
> others...
>

Considering the fact that the Sub Indian continent has many languages and
dialects, its no surprise that there are many translations/spellings of the
various dishes.
In fact the English word *curry* doesn't exist in Indian, (in fact the
concept of curry is English anyway) its Khari to them and that was just one
variation of a type of dish. So who's got the spelling wrong? Us or the
creators?

DAVE OF SMEG - I'm back!

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On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 16:37:09 -0000, "Gimbal" <gim...@globalnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>'Garth' wrote in message ...
>>
>>"Garth" - Play that funky music!
>
>In an Indian restaurant, shouldn't that be "play that plunky music"?

I once sat in an Indian restaurant where their CD player got stuck and
we listened for half an hour(!) to the same fifteen seconds of plinkty
plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg
pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad
bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*..
well, I think you get the point :-)

The staff hadn't even noticed !!!!!!

Neither had my friends at the table, who asked me what I was going to
complain about... does this say something about Indian restaurant
music?

It was in every way the worst service in a restaurant ever.. we were
already sitting at a table eating the cardboard and chutney when they
decided that some other guests should have our table and we could move
to the back of the restaurant (still don't know why); they buggered up
our orders; they took hours to serve us and then forgot about our
desserts and when we left we pointed out that one of their table
displays under a candle was on fire... went down in history amongst my
friends.

Actually, unlike the rest, I quite like those kind of evenings -
variety is the spice of life!

--
Geoff

ChrisG

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Feb 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/10/99
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dsp wrote:
> In fact the English word *curry* doesn't exist in Indian

Wasn't "curry" some english military bod who got associated with indian
food, much like "sandwich"?

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Garth

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Geoff Morris wrote:
<snip>

> pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad
> bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*..
> well, I think you get the point :-)
>
> The staff hadn't even noticed !!!!!!

well, maybe they just didn't care... or they really liked that track..

> Neither had my friends at the table, who asked me what I was going to
> complain about... does this say something about Indian restaurant
> music?

strange friends you have..

<snip>


> desserts and when we left we pointed out that one of their table
> displays under a candle was on fire... went down in history amongst my
> friends.

oh, so it's worse than the ones round here... although as I said
previously, the later in the night you go, the better off you might be..
esp. when in a party of more than 6.. They'll even re-arrange the tables
for you, if needs be..

Peter Chant

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In article <36c14780.428526578@news>,

g.m.m...@lr.tudelft.nl (Geoff Morris) writes:
>
> I once sat in an Indian restaurant where their CD player got stuck and
> we listened for half an hour(!) to the same fifteen seconds of plinkty

> plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg
> pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad
> bada pliinnggg pl*!*.. plinkty plunkty bad bada pliinnggg pl*!*..
> well, I think you get the point :-)
>

That reminds me of when I was in an Indian in Cardif, after a while
I realised that I knew the tune that was being played, it was an
Indian resturant version of 'The Final Countdown'. Spooky.

--
Peter Chant
pe...@neither.demon.co.uk

Chaplain Doakes

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He's not kidding. There's no Indian restaurants where I live. I had to
make a trip to the big city for an Indian buffet. Well, I went to some
strip clubs and a massage parlor too, but I made a special effort to make
sure there was an Indian restaurant in town as well.

Garth

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Feb 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/11/99
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what have people told you about mixing business with pleasure? (that
said, I don't know of any strip clubs/ dodgy massage parlour's round
here...)

Chris Hughes

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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You want to stay at home, and have a triple fried egg sandwich, with
Chile sauce and chutney.


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Chris Hughes

Garth

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Feb 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/16/99
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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Chris Hughes wrote:

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> You want to stay at home, and have a triple fried egg sandwich, with
> Chile sauce and chutney.

with pancakes? hmm, maybe..

fridge, no space, dodgy cooker, no frying pan... arse.

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