Holly in series v
Walrus
could not be present for this series?
Otherwise, why isn't Holly in Starbug? In previous series Holly was always
with them no matter where they were...
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> ..the fact that Hattie Hayridge (Holly) could not be present for this series?
Yeah, I thought that might be the case too. Trouble is, why? She's not been
in anything else on TV. I know she does standup, but hasn't for a year or two
I don't think. Maybe she dropped a sprog?
On a kinda roughly related note, anyone know if Norm might make a comeback?
After that totally abismal series "I, Lovett" I doubt he's exactly snowed under
with offers. And all it would take would be a simple one-liner to explain the
Holly (F) -> Holly (M) again.
Jer.
Paul Allen (PAC)
>> ..the fact that Hattie Hayridge (Holly) could not be present for this series?
>Yeah, I thought that might be the case too. Trouble is, why? She's not been
>in anything else on TV. I know she does standup, but hasn't for a year or two
>I don't think. Maybe she dropped a sprog?
i saw hattie hayridge last night, on stage that is not to speak to.
as this is southampton, which is not well known for being the centre
of the stand-up universe, i suspect she is on a tour of some sort. if
her material is anything to go by she is unmarried and sprogless.
paul
Patrick Scheele
>On a kinda roughly related note, anyone know if Norm might make a comeback?
>After that totally abismal series "I, Lovett" I doubt he's exactly snowed under
>with offers. And all it would take would be a simple one-liner to explain the
>Holly (F) -> Holly (M) again.
Personally, I would prefer Holly to remain female. I'm still waiting for an
episode in which Kryton declares his undying love for Holly (F). ;-)
Now *that* would be gross!
Patrick
J.M.King
>Is the reason that the guys are in Starbug and not Red Dwarf something to do with the fact that Hattie Hayridge (or whatever - the actress who plays Holly)
>could not be present for this series?
>
>Otherwise, why isn't Holly in Starbug? In previous series Holly was always
>with them no matter where they were...
No. Apparently Hattie Hayridge was very disappointed when Grant Naylor
told her she wasn't going to be in Series VI. It appears that they
thought that Kryten had superseded Holly, and that with Kryten being
the fount of all knowledge (bloody clever bogbot, that one!) they
no longer needed a computer. Holly's role had been diminishing since
Kryten first appeared regularly. Hopefully now they've realized the
error of their ways, and RD VII will be set back on Red Dwarf with
Holly (if either Hattie Hayridge or Norman Lovett agrees to come
back). After the dismal (compared to the others) Series VI they
need to go back to the old formula.
James.
Joe Hourcle
Walrus <s91...@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU> wrote:
>Is the reason that the guys are in Starbug and not Red Dwarf something to do
>with the fact that Hattie Hayridge (or whatever - the actress who plays Holly)
>could not be present for this series?
I thing this was covered a while back, but I can't remember what the
enlightened ones informed us as being the case.
>Otherwise, why isn't Holly in Starbug? In previous series Holly was always
>with them no matter where they were...
It seems like it, doesn't it? In Queeg and Thanks for the Memory, Holly
had his little TV on a cart. In Stasis Leak, he went back in time as
the wrist watch. He was in the watch again in Dimension Jump.
However, in Backwards, Holly was only on Starbug 1 with Kryten and
Rimmer, and was not with Cat and Lister in Starbug 2. Holly was still
on Starbug 1 after it went through the time hole, and we never saw her
rescued from the 'Bug. (But Lister did go down there, so we assume she
was, I guess)
There are also places where holly cannot scan, as he admitted in Waiting
for God, and I believe he also did in Stasis Leak.
Can anyone think of any of Holly's other limitations?
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: Personally, I would prefer Holly to remain female. I'm still waiting for an
: episode in which Kryton declares his undying love for Holly (F). ;-)
He can't! *I* love her! Waaaah!
Ha, Ying
What's a sprog?
A kid?
honpe
J.M.King
>
>What's a sprog?
>A kid?
>
You are absolutely correct. A sprog is a kid.
James.
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I always thought a kid was a baby goat :-)
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yoav
: Is the reason that the guys are in Starbug and not Red Dwarf something to do with the fact that Hattie Hayridge (or whatever - the actress who plays Holly)
: Otherwise, why isn't Holly in Starbug? In previous series Holly was always
: with them no matter where they were...
: - Wal
Holly is only present when she can preform a link-up with Starbug, and since
she is far away (and probably turned off, otherwise she would have stopped
whoever took Red Dwarf... unless it was all a practical joke (-:).
Yoav.
Shane Derek Killian
>Walrus <s91...@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU> wrote:
>>Is the reason that the guys are in Starbug and not Red Dwarf something to do
>>with the fact that Hattie Hayridge (or whatever - the actress who plays Holly
)
>>could not be present for this series?
>
>I thing this was covered a while back, but I can't remember what the
>enlightened ones informed us as being the case.
>
good for her to do RD--apparently w/o consulting her.
>>Otherwise, why isn't Holly in Starbug? In previous series Holly was always
>>with them no matter where they were...
>
>It seems like it, doesn't it? In Queeg and Thanks for the Memory, Holly
>had his little TV on a cart. In Stasis Leak, he went back in time as
>the wrist watch. He was in the watch again in Dimension Jump.
>
>However, in Backwards, Holly was only on Starbug 1 with Kryten and
>Rimmer, and was not with Cat and Lister in Starbug 2. Holly was still
>on Starbug 1 after it went through the time hole, and we never saw her
>rescued from the 'Bug. (But Lister did go down there, so we assume she
>was, I guess)
>
No, after Rimmer and Kryten resirface, Holly is seen in the little bubble
thingy on Kryten's stomach, so apparently she was downloaded into Kryten.
Remember? She was talking with them about the Big Crunch and time running
backwards and all that.
>There are also places where holly cannot scan, as he admitted in Waiting
>for God, and I believe he also did in Stasis Leak.
>
>Can anyone think of any of Holly's other limitations?
>
I would think that Holly could go anywhere there was a computer for her to
download herself into. There probably aren't any good reasons for having
a computer terminal in a storage bay, despite what you see on ST:TNG...
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Shane Derek Killian
>episode in which Kryton declares his undying love for Holly (F). ;-)
>
>Now *that* would be gross!
>
to speak) and reveal that he's been having a sordid love affair with Talkie
Toaster. :^)
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yoav
: In article <2jnodc$a...@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au>,
: Walrus <s91...@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU> wrote:
: >Is the reason that the guys are in Starbug and not Red Dwarf something to do
: >with the fact that Hattie Hayridge (or whatever - the actress who plays Holly)
: >could not be present for this series?
: I thing this was covered a while back, but I can't remember what the
: enlightened ones informed us as being the case.
: >Otherwise, why isn't Holly in Starbug? In previous series Holly was always
: >with them no matter where they were...
: It seems like it, doesn't it? In Queeg and Thanks for the Memory, Holly
: had his little TV on a cart. In Stasis Leak, he went back in time as
: the wrist watch. He was in the watch again in Dimension Jump.
: However, in Backwards, Holly was only on Starbug 1 with Kryten and
: Rimmer, and was not with Cat and Lister in Starbug 2. Holly was still
: on Starbug 1 after it went through the time hole, and we never saw her
: rescued from the 'Bug. (But Lister did go down there, so we assume she
: was, I guess)
Well, since things can go two ways through the time hole, I would assume that
Holly's transmitions to Red Dwarf would have continued, so she could have told
cat and Lister everything...
Hmm...
: There are also places where holly cannot scan, as he admitted in Waiting
: for God, and I believe he also did in Stasis Leak.
: Can anyone think of any of Holly's other limitations?
Well, I doubt he/she can exist too far away from Red Dwarf... what do you mean
by limitations? (Holly can't make matter (-:).
Yoav.
Brett Scantlebury,,,Honours,exp199412
No she wasn't! What about in backwards? Where Rimmer and Kryten crash land on
'Backwards Earth'. How come she couldn't tell Lister and the cat where the other
two had gone? In fact after they (Rimmer & Kryten) crash we don't see Holly with
the other guys at all! Surely this doesn't mean that she transferred herself
totally into starbug? And so after the crash could only remain with Rimmer and
Kryten. Technically speaking she should have been transmitting from RD to starbug
and therfore should be able to do the same with the Starbug that Lister and the cat
were in. But she didn't, and therefore in series VI, if they lose RD there is a
chance they may lose Holly as well
Brett
"It is better to have loved and lost, then to have listened to
an album by Olivia Newton-John. Well anything's better than
listening to an album by Olivia Newton-John"
Holly -- RD II
Richard Birchall
Scantlebury,,,Honours,exp199412) wrote:
>
> No she wasn't! What about in backwards? Where Rimmer and Kryten crash land on
> 'Backwards Earth'. How come she couldn't tell Lister and the cat where the other
> two had gone? In fact after they (Rimmer & Kryten) crash we don't see Holly with
> the other guys at all! Surely this doesn't mean that she transferred herself
> totally into starbug? And so after the crash could only remain with Rimmer and
> Kryten. Technically speaking she should have been transmitting from RD to starbug
> and therfore should be able to do the same with the Starbug that Lister and the
...
I think that Holly/Hilly/Queeg could be thought of as AI's, similar to
those in "Neuromancer" by William Gibson. In that book the software
process(es) that made up an AI could run on different systems around
the world, with a main server in some secure location (in orbit, etc).
Perhaps when Hilly would want to maintain a precence in some remote
location (say through a time-hole or on WaxWorld) it could 'calve' off
a version of itself that would fit on the local processor (Starbug,
Lister's
watch) and later update the files on the main server when the 'boys from
the Dwarf' return for lunch.
A couple thoughts:
- Is this a similar concept to a software 'agent'?
- This would make Lister's watch quite a machine!
Tony Stott
> : Is the reason that the guys are in Starbug and not Red Dwarf something to do
> : with the fact that Hattie Hayridge (or whatever - the actress who plays Holly)
> : could not be present for this series?
>
"change of pace"
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