Is anyone out there willing and able to cap and share these episodes online?
There is a group talking about this here:
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=528515
I might. I got a DVD recorder.
I dunno if this is legal or not though.
it's not.
(which is not to say I'd turn you in)
:-0
The question was "cap and share." save your hot air.
For
> instance, if I were to record a show on my PC and burn it to DVD, it's
> legal as long as I don't pass it around. But selling it, trading it or
> even sharing it is against the law. Giving a copy away is pretty much
> a gray area as far as the law is concerned.
no it isn't. who's gonna turn you in though?
But selling and trading it
> are definite no-nos. Just recording a copy for yourself on DVD or VHS
> was established legal many years ago when the first Betamax and VHS
> machines came out.
>
> Brian
>
response was to quote directly above, where you misinterpret the original
post.
>
> "this is the first time since it was originally on
> TV that it
> will be screened."
>
> And that is incorrect.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For
>>> instance, if I were to record a show on my PC and burn it to DVD, it's
>>> legal as long as I don't pass it around. But selling it, trading it or
>>> even sharing it is against the law. Giving a copy away is pretty much
>>> a gray area as far as the law is concerned.
>>
>>
>>no it isn't. who's gonna turn you in though?
>
> The courts disagree. They say it's legal, for personal use.
> This was brought into the courts many years ago, back when Betamax
> machines first came out.
response was to quote directly above, where you call giving away copies a
"gray area." that's NOT "personal use," and IS illegal.
>
> "The District Court concluded that noncommercial home use recording of
> material broadcast over the public airwaves was a fair use of
> copyrighted works and did not constitute copyright infringement. It
> emphasized the fact that the material was broadcast free to the public
> at large, the noncommercial character of the use, and the private
> character of the activity conducted entirely within the home.
> Moreover, the court found that the purpose of this use served the
> public interest in increasing access to television programming, an
> interest that "is consistent with the First Amendment policy of
> providing the fullest possible access to information through the
> public airwaves. Columbia Broadcasting System, Inc. v. Democratic
> National Committee, 412 U.S. 94, 102 ." Id., at 454. 8 Even when an
> entire copyrighted work was recorded, [464 U.S. 417, 426] the
> District Court regarded the copying as fair use "because there is no
> accompanying reduction in the market for `plaintiff's original work."
>
> Selling and trading IS illegal. Giving a copy to someone has never
> been addressed in the courts. It's the same as having someone come to
> your home and watching a show on Comcast's DVR recorder. It's legal to
> rent the DVR from Comcast and it's legal to play a recording when
> company is over. If these practices WERE illegal, it would be illegal
> for Comcast to lease the DVR boxes, for vendors to sell TV video cards
> for computers and for companies to even sell VCR machines.
>
>
> Here's a link to some court cases about recording TV. It's pretty much
> a gray area, like I said. Can I give away a recorded TV show, legally?
> Who knows? It's the same way with recording a show and going to
> someone's house and watching it. Is that legal? I'm sure some court,
> somewhere, has ruled on that, but the general public wouldn't know if
> it were legal or not.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.
"Brian Matthews" <noone...@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:36:19 -0500, "Bill Kawalec"
> <billk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>For
>>> instance, if I were to record a show on my PC and burn it to DVD, it's
>>> legal as long as I don't pass it around. But selling it, trading it or
>>> even sharing it is against the law. Giving a copy away is pretty much
>>> a gray area as far as the law is concerned.
>>
>>
>>no it isn't. who's gonna turn you in though?
>
> OK, a little more research turned this up;
>
> "It would indeed be illegal for you to lend a copy to your neighbor.
> Such an action would not be permitted under the fair use provisions
> for television broadcasts, since you would be doing much more than
> using a copy for your own "time-shifting" purposes. You and you alone,
> as the original receiver of the content, may use your personal copy of
> the TV show."
>
> And this is what puzzles most people. If it's legal for me to record a
> show, is it OK to be watching it when company comes over or do I need
> to shut it off the minute they arrive?
well, if they're going to try to control who can watch what inside my house,
there are several new cans-o-worms to open. it would now be illegal to rent
a movie at Blockbuster and watch it with non-residents in your house...
It's pretty confusing. But I
> think we all agree, that the original post about capping and seeding
> NYPD Blue episodes, without a doubt, IS illegal.
>
> Brian
>
>
"Brian Matthews" <noone...@ddd.com> wrote in message
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And I'm telling you, there's been many cases of illegal
> downloads (or copying) that have gone to court. And the defendants
> have had to pay out through the nose for breaking these laws.
>
> Brian
yeah I read
So all this means that what I record is for my eyes only and I should
shut it off if someone else comes into where I am?