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Can anyone cap and seed the TNT episodes?

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dave

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Jan 9, 2008, 10:48:34 PM1/9/08
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I've purchased all the DVDs so far and was really disappointed to learn the
season 5 release has been postponed indefinitely. It would be great to see
these episodes again. And if Fox isn't willing to take my hard earned, I'll
find an alternative.

Is anyone out there willing and able to cap and share these episodes online?

There is a group talking about this here:
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthread.php?p=528515

sammy_sa...@yahoo.com

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Jan 10, 2008, 8:53:32 AM1/10/08
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I might. I got a DVD recorder.


I dunno if this is legal or not though.

Bill Kawalec

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Jan 10, 2008, 1:18:00 PM1/10/08
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<sammy_sa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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it's not.
(which is not to say I'd turn you in)


:-0


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Bill Kawalec

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Jan 11, 2008, 4:36:19 AM1/11/08
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"Brian Matthews" <noone...@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> From that link;
>
> "From Wednesday, January 16, 3:00AM ET the US TV Channel TNT will
> start screening
> Season 5 onwards...this is the first time since it was originally on
> TV that it
> will be screened."
>
>
> That is just plain WRONG. Court TV and TNT have been thru the ENTIRE
> series, many times. As for the legality of recording it to VHS or DVD?
> I believe it's legal, as long as you don't distribute the shows.

The question was "cap and share." save your hot air.


For
> instance, if I were to record a show on my PC and burn it to DVD, it's
> legal as long as I don't pass it around. But selling it, trading it or
> even sharing it is against the law. Giving a copy away is pretty much
> a gray area as far as the law is concerned.


no it isn't. who's gonna turn you in though?

But selling and trading it
> are definite no-nos. Just recording a copy for yourself on DVD or VHS
> was established legal many years ago when the first Betamax and VHS
> machines came out.
>
> Brian
>


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Bill Kawalec

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Jan 12, 2008, 3:32:34 PM1/12/08
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"Brian Matthews" <noone...@ddd.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:36:19 -0500, "Bill Kawalec"
> I was just pointing out the inaccurate part of the article, it's NOT
> the first time seasons 5 thru 12 have been reran. From the web
> article;


response was to quote directly above, where you misinterpret the original
post.

>
> "this is the first time since it was originally on
> TV that it
> will be screened."
>

> And that is incorrect.


>>
>>
>>
>>
>>For
>>> instance, if I were to record a show on my PC and burn it to DVD, it's
>>> legal as long as I don't pass it around. But selling it, trading it or
>>> even sharing it is against the law. Giving a copy away is pretty much
>>> a gray area as far as the law is concerned.
>>
>>
>>no it isn't. who's gonna turn you in though?
>

> The courts disagree. They say it's legal, for personal use.
> This was brought into the courts many years ago, back when Betamax
> machines first came out.


response was to quote directly above, where you call giving away copies a
"gray area." that's NOT "personal use," and IS illegal.


>
> "The District Court concluded that noncommercial home use recording of
> material broadcast over the public airwaves was a fair use of
> copyrighted works and did not constitute copyright infringement. It
> emphasized the fact that the material was broadcast free to the public
> at large, the noncommercial character of the use, and the private
> character of the activity conducted entirely within the home.
> Moreover, the court found that the purpose of this use served the
> public interest in increasing access to television programming, an
> interest that "is consistent with the First Amendment policy of
> providing the fullest possible access to information through the
> public airwaves. Columbia Broadcasting System, Inc. v. Democratic
> National Committee, 412 U.S. 94, 102 ." Id., at 454. 8 Even when an
> entire copyrighted work was recorded, [464 U.S. 417, 426] the
> District Court regarded the copying as fair use "because there is no
> accompanying reduction in the market for `plaintiff's original work."
>
> Selling and trading IS illegal. Giving a copy to someone has never
> been addressed in the courts. It's the same as having someone come to
> your home and watching a show on Comcast's DVR recorder. It's legal to
> rent the DVR from Comcast and it's legal to play a recording when
> company is over. If these practices WERE illegal, it would be illegal
> for Comcast to lease the DVR boxes, for vendors to sell TV video cards
> for computers and for companies to even sell VCR machines.
>
>
> Here's a link to some court cases about recording TV. It's pretty much
> a gray area, like I said. Can I give away a recorded TV show, legally?
> Who knows? It's the same way with recording a show and going to
> someone's house and watching it. Is that legal? I'm sure some court,
> somewhere, has ruled on that, but the general public wouldn't know if
> it were legal or not.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Universal_City_Studios,_Inc.

Bill Kawalec

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Jan 12, 2008, 3:35:28 PM1/12/08
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"Brian Matthews" <noone...@ddd.com> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:36:19 -0500, "Bill Kawalec"
> <billk...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>For
>>> instance, if I were to record a show on my PC and burn it to DVD, it's
>>> legal as long as I don't pass it around. But selling it, trading it or
>>> even sharing it is against the law. Giving a copy away is pretty much
>>> a gray area as far as the law is concerned.
>>
>>
>>no it isn't. who's gonna turn you in though?
>

> OK, a little more research turned this up;
>
> "It would indeed be illegal for you to lend a copy to your neighbor.
> Such an action would not be permitted under the fair use provisions
> for television broadcasts, since you would be doing much more than
> using a copy for your own "time-shifting" purposes. You and you alone,
> as the original receiver of the content, may use your personal copy of
> the TV show."
>
> And this is what puzzles most people. If it's legal for me to record a
> show, is it OK to be watching it when company comes over or do I need
> to shut it off the minute they arrive?


well, if they're going to try to control who can watch what inside my house,
there are several new cans-o-worms to open. it would now be illegal to rent
a movie at Blockbuster and watch it with non-residents in your house...

It's pretty confusing. But I
> think we all agree, that the original post about capping and seeding
> NYPD Blue episodes, without a doubt, IS illegal.
>
> Brian
>
>


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Bill Kawalec

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Jan 13, 2008, 4:29:35 AM1/13/08
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"Brian Matthews" <noone...@ddd.com> wrote in message

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And I'm telling you, there's been many cases of illegal
> downloads (or copying) that have gone to court. And the defendants
> have had to pay out through the nose for breaking these laws.
>
> Brian

yeah I read


sammy_sa...@yahoo.com

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Jan 16, 2008, 6:38:07 AM1/16/08
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On Jan 13, 3:29 am, "Bill Kawalec" <billkawa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Brian Matthews" <nooneca...@ddd.com> wrote in message

So all this means that what I record is for my eyes only and I should
shut it off if someone else comes into where I am?

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