[MiSTied] The "Saturn Myth" and modern science I
Keith Williams
Sorry, no invention exchange or titillating banter this time, just straight
into the pain.
Enjoy.
-K
--
"Maybe all I need / besides my pills / and surgery / is a new metaphor
for reality."
- Queensryche -- "Disconnected" -- Promised Land
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> The following will begin a series of posts offering an
MIKE: Inspired way to kill brain cells.
> introduction to
> what has been called the "Saturn Thesis,"
SERVO: By some, and a complete waste of time by others.
CROW: Namely us!
> using a question and answer
> format. Five successive posts will be included over the next five days.
CROW: We won't have to do them all, will we?
MIKE: I guess that depends on the mads.
CROW: [shuddering] I don't know if I can take this.
>
> To economize on the logistical requirements,
SERVO: I will rudimentize, and then compartmentalize the esphasmorial
temporal, gizmoffitalists.
> after the five initial posts
MIKE: You will be sufficiently comatose, that my minions will be able to
destroy you easily.
> the introduction will be continued only on the group talk.origins. If
> the ideas look interesting to you,
CROW: Get professional help...NOW!!!
> we hope to see you on talk.origins--a
> site of some interesting discussion--within the next few days.
SERVO: If you can't make it by then, don't bother showing up at all.
>
>
>
> WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT MYTH?
CROW: When we have all this delicious *cheese*?
>
> I think there's a very good reason to care about myth, even though myth
SERVO: Doesn't care about you.
MIKE: Myth isn't a very loving person, is he?
SERVO: Sadly, no.
> as a whole may seem to speak a language too obscure for rational,
> feet-on-the-ground folk.
CROW: Which is why you need *me* to translate them for you. Hi, my name
is Dave Talbott, and I'll be your host for the next sixty minutes of
adventure!
> Myth is, I believe, a window to early human
SERVO: Psychosis.
> history, a more intensely dramatic period than we've realized.
MIKE: I was not aware of that.
> The myths
> have their roots in a time of celestial catastrophe,
CROW: The opening of Ghostbusters II.
> and more often than
> not the appearance of confusion results from viewing myth as something
> other than what it is.
SERVO: It's a myth, treat it as such and it will respect you. Treat it as
fact, and it'll bite your shins.
>
> In the course of cultural evolution and scientific advance, we left
CROW: Our mark on many'a tree.
> behind the fabled "long ago,"
MIKE: In a galaxy far, far away...
> whose images seemed wholly out of touch
SERVO: Reality.
> with our own world. Yet my personal conviction is that ancient myth,
CROW: Is my father. Dad! When are you coming home?!!?
> when seen as a symbolic record of earth-shaking events in the sky, will
>
> with our own world. Yet my personal conviction is that ancient myth,
CROW: Is my father. Dad! When are you coming home?!!?
SERVO: What the...?
MIKE: Deja'vu?
> when seen as a symbolic record of earth-shaking events in the sky, will
> permanently change man's view of his celestial environment.
MIKE: What just happened there?
SERVO: Must have been a time bounce.
MIKE: Weird.
>
> BUT YOUR CONCLUSIONS ARE NOT THOSE OF OTHERS WHO DEVOTED LIFETIMES TO THE
> STUDY OF MYTH.
CROW: What a bunch of losers *those* guys must be.
> HOW DOES YOUR APPROACH TO MYTH PRODUCE SUCH SURPRISING
> CONCLUSIONS?
SERVO: Well, I like to sneak up behind it and then goose it.
>
> For many years now--22 to be exact--I've been working to solve a puzzle.
CROW: *Damn* that Rubik's Cube!!
> Why do ancient chronicles of celestial gods and heroes tell such similar
> stories?
MIKE: Because copyright laws were much more lax back then?
> Though the names differ, the various biographies of the gods
> reveal more parallels than I had ever believed possible.
SERVO: Yeah, who would have thought that, cultures, absorbing other cultures,
would keep the basic premise any only change the names to reflect
their different languages?
MIKE: Now that wasn't nice Tom.
CROW: Yeah, Tom, you just shot a hole through the middle of his whole
thesis.
SERVO: Sorry.
> And the deeper
> I looked the more clear it became that ancient races around the world
CROW: Shared my fascination for polyester.
> recorded many identical experiences, even when they used different
> symbols to tell their stories.
SERVO: Not *everyone's* language is based on Arabic lettering, mister.
>
> Many common themes run through the folklore of diverse cultures. From
CROW: Aunt Whinny and the rogue stallion.
SERVO: To Typhoid Mary.
MIKE: To little Jackie Paper.
> ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia to the Americas, from India to China,
> Scandinavia, Africa, and the Pacific Islands,
SERVO: From east to west, north to south, DOS to Windows, OS/2 to Unix.
> one finds surprisingly
> similar accounts: celestial temples and cities, a lost paradise or
> "Garden of Eden," a cosmic mountain, a flaming serpent or dragon in the
>
> similar accounts: celestial temples and cities, a lost paradise or
ALL: Aaaahhhhhh!!!!
SERVO: It's happening again.
CROW: I feel all squishy inside.
> "Garden of Eden," a cosmic mountain, a flaming serpent or dragon in the
CROW: Is this going to happen throughout this entire post?
MIKE: I don't know, but I hope not.
SERVO: Do you think it might be intensional?
MIKE: How do you mean?
SERVO: Well, maybe the author is trying to create a mood of surrealism
through repetition.
MIKE: Ah, well, I think that might be stretching it a bit for this author.
> sky--and surprisingly similar stories of global calamity ranging from
CROW: The Cubs winning the World Series.
> wars of the gods, to a great flood or a devastating rain of fire and
> gravel.
SERVO: And I guess these things never happened, eh?
CROW: Yeah, when would it ever rain fire and gravel in the real world.
MIKE: Ignoring volcanoes, right?
CROW: Right.
MIKE: Well, then, almost never, I guess.
SERVO: The author is vindicated.
>
> If we'll look at these collective memories carefully, it will change our
CROW: Understanding of pudding.
> understanding of the past. Many of the myths concern planets, but the
MIKE: Real money is in merchandising.
> accounts make no sense to us in terms of the movement of these remote
> bodies today. Why did the planets, these little pinpricks of light,
SERVO: [as Jupiter] Hey! Who you callin' a "pinprick," little man?
> play
> such a powerful role in the mythical "age of the gods"?
CROW: All these questions and more will be answered in the next episode of
"Soap."
>
> Along with others working in this field, I've come to interpret the myths
SERVO: You mean this guy isn't alone?
MIKE: *That's* a scary thought.
CROW: Yeah, I always pictured him sitting alone in a basement, smoking.
With a naked 125 Watt bulb dangling from the ceiling, casting twisted
shadows on blood stained walls.
SERVO: Wow, that was more imagery than this entire post contains.
MIKE: [obviously impressed] Well done, Crow.
CROW: Thanks.
> and drawings and ritual practices from a new vantage point.
MIKE: Standing on my head!
> Here is
> the conclusion in a nutshell:
CROW: I am completely wack-o!!
> A few thousand years ago, the sky did not
> look anything like it looks today!
SERVO: How so?
CROW: Well, for starters, there was an ozone layer.
> Planets appeared as gigantic,
> sometimes terrifying bodies above the ancient stargazers.
MIKE: Wow, Dhalgren.
SERVO: This was caused by the incessant ingestion of various indigenous
plants.
CROW: Woo-hoo!! Co-caine!!!
> In periods of
> stability this involved incredible beauty, but there were also periods of
> mind-altering catastrophe--
MIKE: Like when "Full House" got renewed *again*.
> the most traumatic experiences in the history
> of man.
SERVO: Amen.
>
> WHAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR THIS?
CROW: I'll show you mine if you show me yours.
>
> The primary evidence comes from ancient chronicles,
MIKE: Which were the short stories that the "Martian Chronicles" were based
on.
> submitted to
> extensive cross-referencing. By comparing accounts from around the
SERVO: Office.
> world, one can begin to reconstruct the way the sky looked in ancient
> times.
CROW: [as detective] Okay, ma'am, how would you describe the sky?
SERVO: Well, it was big, really big. And blue, definitely blue, but graying
at the temples.
> Is it possible that the myths and pictographs recorded, in a
> language unique to the starworshippers, large-scale events we've
> forgotten?
SERVO: [as Spicolli] No way, Mr. Hand. When was that?
MIKE: Tuesday.
SERVO: Were we on my time?
> By keeping that possibility firmly in mind,
CROW: And our common sense firmly in check.
> the researcher
> will begin to identify crucial themes of myth--
SERVO: Like Laura's Theme.
> themes found on every
> continent, but pointing to an alien sky.
CROW: Is he talking about McDonalds?
MIKE: I honestly don't know.
>
> As one begins to see the past differently, recent space age discoveries
MIKE: Like that pen that lets you write up-side-down.
> will take on a new significance. Our probes of other planets, such as
SERVO: That unfortunate incident with Venus last month.
CROW: Hey, she was askin' for it.
> the Mariner explorations of Mars, the Voyager missions to Jupiter and
MIKE: Joe Don Baker's Dairy Bar.
> Saturn, and more recently the Magellan mapping of Venus, have produced
CROW: Some *fascinating* braille etchings.
> many stunning images of the planets and their moons, together with
> undeniable evidence of large-scale catastrophe within the planetary
> system.
MIKE: Okay, that's enough about the Clinton administration.
> Taken as a whole, these stark profiles of our neighbors
SERVO: Indicate a post-modern influence.
> challenge traditional theories claiming slow and uneventful planetary
> system.
CROW: Move along, nothing t'see here.
> Taken as a whole, these stark profiles of our neighbors
SERVO: Indicate a post-modern influence.
> challenge traditional theories claiming slow and uneventful planetary
ALL: AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
> evolution. Moreover, a new possibility arises from a reconsideration of
> the historical material:
MIKE: That we really *are* stuck in some kind of time vortex.
CROW: It's sapping my will to live!
> the possibility that at least some of the
> horrendous scars on our planetary neighbors resulted from
SERVO: Poor hygiene practices as teenagers.
> events
> witnessed by man not all that long ago.
>
> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THE STATEMENT THAT THE PLANETS
> APPEARED AS "GIGANTIC" BODIES IN THE SKY?
CROW: I "mean" that "I" appeared "drunk" when I "said" that.
>
> At the core of the argument is the idea that
MIKE: *Nobody* shot J.R.
> several planets were once
> joined
SERVO: At the hip.
> in a spectacular gathering of planets,
CROW: Programs, get yer programs here! Can't tell the planets from the
moons without a program!
SERVO: Will you be attending the gathering, Mike?
MIKE: I think I have to wash my hair that night.
> together with gases and
> dust,
CROW: Phew! Did you get a whiff of that?!!?
> smaller moons and cosmic debris. For prehistoric man--who
SERVO: Liked to shop at Macy's during the Christmas season.
CROW: Prehistoric man was a masochist, eh?
MIKE: Must have been.
> witnessed all of this--the effect was a massive celestial display in the
> northern sky.
MIKE: Also known as Aurora Borealis.
> I've called this celestial assembly "the polar
CROW: Bears on Parade.
> configuration" because in its stable phases it was centered on the north
> celestial pole.
SERVO: In its unstable phases it tended to wander around the neighbourhood
muttering to itself.
> In the beginning,
MIKE: There was pinochle.
> the primary form was the planet
> Saturn, stationary but immense in the sky.
CROW: [as Saturn] Hi, I'm Saturn, and I'll be immense, but stationary, in
your sky tonight.
MIKE & SERVO: Hi, Saturn!
> Numerous lines of evidence
SERVO: Fall prey to my twisted logic.
> suggest that Saturn once towered over man and inspired the most dramatic
> leaps in human imagination the world has ever known.
CROW: [as Saturn] FEE, FI, FO, FUM, I SMELL THE BLOOD OF AN ENGLISHMAN!!
>
> Our work puts a new emphasis on the unusual celestial events reflected in
MIKE: The eyes of a deer, caught in our passing headlights.
> the myths. When you first dive into world mythology,
CROW: Wear a suit, since the water's very cold.
> all of your prior
> training will tell you to dismiss the myth-makers as fabricators or
> victims of hallucination.
CROW: Cool, man, do it again.
SERVO: No way, man, ya' gotta take it sloooow the first time.
CROW: Ahh, come on, man, I can take it.
SERVO: Okay, man, it's *your* head.
> But there's another way to see the myths.
MIKE: Now playing, at a theatre near you.
> Ancient man experienced extraordinary events,
CROW: Thanks to the ready availability of numerous psychoactive drugs.
> then strove to remember and
> to reenact them in every way possible.
SERVO: It became an obsession, really.
> The result was not only a global
> mythology, but entirely new
ALL: CAR!!
> forms of human expression. And the whole
MIKE: Thing is just a load of crap. Sorry, folks! Enjoy your parting
gifts.
> range of expressions--sacrifices to the gods, wars of conquest,
> monumental construction, pictographic representations,
CROW: Roseanne in syndication.
MIKE: The Power Rangers in prime time.
ALL: NOT THAT!!!
> and endless
> celebrations of the lost age of the gods--
SERVO: [as cop] Now, where did you last see this "age of gods."
MIKE: Well, I had it with me when I was taking a shower.
> left us a massive reservoir of
> evidence.
CROW: Unfortunately, someone left the lid ajar, so it all spoiled.
> These highly novel expressions are,
SERVO: Complete and utter fabrication!! Heh, I made it all up!!
> in fact, the
> distinguishing characteristics of the first civilizations.
CROW: Were moles in the most unsightly of places.
>
> BUT WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THE SKY HAS CHANGED SO DRASTICALLY?
SERVO: You don't have to believe *me*, but the guy holding the gun would
be *very* upset if you disagree with him.
>
> The best I can ask for is a willingness to consider an argument.
CROW: Is that the *best* you can do?
MIKE: [sobbing] I tried.
CROW: And it just wasn't good enough, was it?
> I could
> show you,
SERVO: Hey, hey, calm down. None of us want to see *that*!
> for example, that certain celestial images preoccupied ancient
> man to the point of an obsession.
CROW: Like, "how can I get my very own Elvis painting on black velvet?"
> A great cosmic wheel in the sky.
ALL: THE WHEEL OF FORTUNE!!
> The
> pyramid of the sun. The eye of heaven.
CROW: I *see* you.
MIKE: I'm not touching you.
CROW: I *see* you.
MIKE: I'm not touching you. Does this bother you?
CROW: I *see*...
SERVO: We get it.
> Also the ship of heaven, a
CROW: 747 with racing stripes!
> spiraling serpent, the raging goddess,
MIKE: It's that time of the month.
> and four luminous "winds" of the
CROW: Phew! Who let that one go?
> sky. The problem for conventional perspectives is that these images are
SERVO: Only on Beta.
> far, far removed from anything we see in the heavens today. But that is
CROW: Okay, since nobody really cares, anyway.
> only the beginning of the theoretical challenge. As soon as you realize
MIKE: That you've lost your mind completely.
> that far-flung cultures, though employing different symbols, tell a
> unified story, all of the previous "explanations" of myth collapse.
SERVO: Like "a" house "of" cards.
>
> Of course the point will not be proven in a few sentences,
CROW: Or in a few *thousand* sentences, as we've already seen.
> and not in a
> few pages. But the more you learn on this subject, the more compelling
> the collective memory becomes.
SERVO: Loook *deeeeply* into my eyes... Tell me, what do you see?
CROW: [hypnotized] A twisted man who wants to inflict his pain upon others.
SERVO: Not that deeply.
CROW: A new car?
>
> SO YOU ARE CHALLENGING THE IDEA THAT THINGS HAVE
MIKE: A mind of their own.
> NOT REALLY CHANGED THAT MUCH WITHIN THE SOLAR
> SYSTEM.
>
> Yes, we
SERVO: And by "we," I mean "me," only more so.
> are challenging an intellectual system as a whole.
CROW: I'll take the whole system with me, if I have to! Just *try* me!!
> What is at
> stake here are the pillars of the modern world view.
MIKE: Good thing Sampson got that trim.
> How could it be
> that the sky has completely changed in a few thousand years?
SERVO: Thanks to Miracle Shine 2000 and its space-aged polymer formula!!
> Our
> textbooks do not talk about such a thing.
MIKE: The printed word is like that, sometimes.
CROW: Mute, you might say.
MIKE: I might at that.
> When instructing us on the
> history of the solar system,
SERVO: People tend to leave out the story of the littlest planet.
> the evolution of our planet, the birth of
> man, the origins of civilization, no one speaks of an unstable solar
> system, of interplanetary upheaval, or of wholesale changes in the
> celestial order.
CROW: No, that would just make people worry.
>
> When the popular astronomer Carl Sagan presented his impressive
SERVO: Inflection on the word "billions."
> exposition on the nature of things, called Cosmos, he didn't ask if we
CROW: Wanted to know, he just went ahead and did it. What a pushy
scientist!
> may have misunderstood our past. Rather, Sagan's expressed view--
MIKE: Tastes just like chicken.
> the
> official view of science for many years--fits comfortably within the
> textbooks on astronomy,
CROW: Right there next to the picture of Galileo.
> geology, biology, anthropology, and ancient
> history.
>
> When we launched the U.S. Space program in the late 50s,
SERVO: And by "we," I mean people other than myself.
> then devoted
> billions of dollars to exploring neighboring planets, no one thought to
CROW: Ask if *I* might like to go.
> ask if the planets might have followed different courses in earlier
> times, whether recent disturbances of the planetary system might have
SERVO: Oh, give it a rest!! The planets did *not* parade around in skimpy
underwear to the delight and wonderment of ancient man! They
just didn't!
MIKE: Thank you, Tom.
SERVO: No problem.
> left their tell-tale marks on these remote bodies. So when our cameras
CROW: Turned to the mysterious place we call Burbank.
> and measuring devices reached the planets Mars and Venus, and the Voyager
> probes provided spectacular glimpses of Jupiter and Saturn--well, we were
> left with a hundred enigmas and unanswered questions.
CROW: We were?
MIKE: We sure were.
CROW: Like what?
MIKE: You wouldn't understand.
>
> And yes, there's a certain irony to this.
SERVO: Sweet, sweet irony, how bitter is thy kiss.
> The prevailing view of myth
> proclaims that, through science, man escaped the bonds of superstition
CROW: When he actually had a key hidden in his shorts all the time.
> and make believe. But now, in the twentieth century--the age of science
> and reason--
SERVO: Also known as the age of Ben and Jerry's.
> there is every reason to believe that myth and symbol will
> provide the lost key to the past, the key to a new understanding of the
> solar system, of planet Earth, and of man himself.
CROW: Whoa. Deep.
SERVO: But don't forget. This guy's a ninny.
CROW: Oh, right, he almost had me going there for a second.
>
> HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH THESE IDEAS ABOUT "PLANETARY"
> MYTH FROM THE IDEAS OF OTHER RESEARCHERS SUCH AS
> JOSEPH CAMPBELL, CARL JUNG AND MIRCEA ELIADE?
MIKE: I sprinkle them with gladness.
>
> Each of these impressive scholars came to
CROW: An unfortunate end when they called me a lunatic!
> discern certain unified layers
> of myth, layers our traditional cynicism about myth never anticipated.
SERVO: I just hate when a layer of cynicism fails to anticipate where a
myth is leading it.
> Perhaps the greatest contribution of these pioneers is their
MIKE: Curly fries.
> acknowledgment that the common view--seeing myth as random
> absurdity--will not suffice to explain the subject.
CROW: But that's how they explain the Three Stooges, isn't it?
>
> I think the late Joseph Campbell has done the most to awaken popular
> interest in myth, and he is one of my own favorites too.
MIKE: I like to dress him up and introduce him to Barbi.
> Following a
> comparative approach, Campbell brought to light quite a number of global
> themes.
CROW: Like Global Warming?
SERVO: And Global Thermonuclear War?
> He noted, for example, the myths of the central sun, the world
CROW: Seen it.
> mountain, the flowering of creation through sacrifice, the birth of the
MIKE: Done it.
> hero, the terrible goddess, and so on.
SERVO: Doin' it this weekend.
>
> Any one of these themes,
CROW: Is enough to bore you to death.
> when explored in its full context, could open
> the door to incredible discovery.
SERVO: Or the loony bin, if you choose door number three.
> But Campbell, like so many others,
MIKE: Liked booze a little too much.
> stopped short of asking the most important question of all:
ALL: WHY ARE WE STILL READING THIS?!!?
> if the
> celestial references of the myths are absent today, is it possible that
> they were present in a former time?
SERVO: Nope, not a chance. Couldn't happen. Next question.
>
> WHAT IS THE REAL MESSAGE OF MYTH, IN YOUR VIEW?
MIKE: It is a message of racial harmony and singing and holding midnight
vigils and...
SERVO: Uh, Mike, that's a Coke commercial.
MIKE: Oh, sorry.
>
> The mythmakers are telling us
CROW: To go make our own myths!
> we've forgotten the very thing they
> regarded as most vital--
MIKE: Jelly beans.
> in fact, the source of all meaning to the first
> starworshippers. We've forgotten the age of the gods. We've assumed
SERVO: That it was all a bunch of poppy-cock.
> that as long as man has journeyed on our planet the world looked and
> behaved almost exactly as it does today. And that is the fundamental
> error of modern perception.
CROW: Well, there *was* that time when they thought the world was flat.
SERVO: According to this guy, the world probably *was* flat. It probably
only became round around 800 B.C.
MIKE: Oh, around the time of the first explorations?
SERVO: Right, until then, the world was flat.
CROW: So, you mean, before investigation.
SERVO: Ding, ding! We have a winner.
>
> The answer to that error is to re-envision the past.
CROW: I think he meant "re-invent" there.
MIKE: Or "revision."
SERVO: Yeah, history v2.0.
> With the help of the
> ancient chroniclers,
MIKE: And my Pocket Fisherman.
> its time to bring the forgotten dramas--both the
> beauty, and the nightmare scenarios--into the light of day.
ALL: CLOSE THE DOOR!!
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
CROW: Hey, that was the the most coherent thing in this entire post.
SERVO: It was probably an accident.
>
> The Saturn thesis and many other areas of research growing out of the
> pioneering work of Immanuel Velikovsky,
SERVO: Including dream interpretation.
MIKE: And phrenology.
CROW: And the disposal of misbegotten gains.
> will be the subject of an
> international symposium, "Velikovsky, Ancient Myth, and Modern Science,"
> November 25-27, in Portland, Oregon.
>
> For information contact e...@pi.eai.com
SERVO: I think it's safe to say that, if you want more information, you
should check yourself into a hospital as soon as possible.
>
> Copyright 1994, David Talbott
>
>
CROW: Like anyone else would take credit for it.
SERVO: Let's go.
[ ...6...5...4...3...2...1...<> ]
CROW: How many of these articles *are* there?
MIKE: Five, I think.
CROW: And this was the second, right?
MIKE: Well, the second for us, but the first in the series.
SERVO: Right, our first was the fourth.
CROW: Uhh, right. So there are six more?
[ Mike and Tom stare at each other with blank looks on their faces. ]
MIKE: That sounds about right.
SERVO: Yeah.
MIKE: What do you think, sirs?
[ Deep 13 ]
DR. F: I think we're missing a Jerry Mathers marathon on account of you.
Push the button, Frank.
FRANK: Okay-doke!
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> I think there's a very good reason to care about myth, even though myth
> as a whole may seem to speak a language too obscure for rational,
> feet-on-the-ground folk.
lammey bart t
MSTed?
I swear it gets repost every other week, and now here's a new
version.
Not that I'm complaining...they
are all funny...
Oh well.
Bart T. Lammey
"Fifteen Locations to serve you, now in Altuna!"
Keith Williams
I wasn't aware that anyone else had done this one. I got permission from the "dibs" list before starting it, so...
-K (don't ask me, I'm new in town)