Lost: The Story of the Oceanic 6 - 2009-04-22
thinbluemime
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The episode is narrated by Nestor Carbonell, the actor who portrays
Richard Alpert. Other Lost actors to narrate clip shows are Michael
Emerson and Doug Hutchison.
This is the first recap since Season 3's The Lost Survival Guide to
present a traditional, chronological ordering of events with no interview
segments.
The recap clarifies that the on-Island events in the present are happening
in 2007.
This show appears to give us an answer to one of the show's mysteries when
Carbonell states that it was Charles Widmore who faked the wreckage of
Flight 815.
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lost:_The_Story_of_the_Oceanic_6
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Takes a Village said...
You've heard of abc gum? Well this is ABC Lost.
sol...@aol.com
On Apr 23, 7:28�am, thinbluemime <thinbluem...@tbm.com> wrote:
> ...it was Charles Widmore who faked the wreckage of Flight 815.
>
> ----------------------
>
> The episode is narrated by Nestor Carbonell, the actor who portrays �
> Richard Alpert. Other Lost actors to narrate clip shows are Michael �
> Emerson and Doug Hutchison.
>
> This is the first recap since Season 3's The Lost Survival Guide to �
> present a traditional, chronological ordering of events with no interview �
> segments.
>
> The recap clarifies that the on-Island events in the present are happening �
> in 2007.
>
> This show appears to give us an answer to one of the show's mysteries when �
> Carbonell states that it was Charles Widmore who faked the wreckage of �
> Flight 815.
>
> http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lost:_The_Story_of_the_Oceanic_6
OK, this part of that Lostpedia synopsis is confusing:
"This show also confirmed that when Ajira flight 316 arrived on the
island, the year was 2007 & not 2008 (when the flight departed)."
What the hell is that supposed to mean? That both groups from A316
time-skipped? One to 1977 and the other a small hop back to 2007 !?
Hmmm... ;-)
-/< /\ />-
tdciago
> ...it was Charles Widmore who faked the wreckage of Flight 815.
How the hell did I miss that confirmation?
> The episode is narrated by Nestor Carbonell, the actor who portrays �
> Richard Alpert.
Thank you! I wondered who it was.
thinbluemime
>> http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Lost:_The_Story_of_the_Oceanic_6
>
> OK, this part of that Lostpedia synopsis is confusing:
>
> "This show also confirmed that when Ajira flight 316 arrived on the
> island, the year was 2007 & not 2008 (when the flight departed)."
>
> What the hell is that supposed to mean? That both groups from A316
> time-skipped? One to 1977 and the other a small hop back to 2007 !?
> Hmmm... ;-)
I don't know. It appears even after the recap show, that was meant to
clarify, there is still some confusion about the dates.
Additionally, I have spent the last week wondering, "Why?" .
"Why" stage a fake crash? Criminal law looks at motive, means and
opportunity. The motivation to stage a fake crash could NOT be to conceal
the island, because the island is already so difficult to find.
So why did Widmore spend so much time, money and resources to stage a fake
crash?
tdciago
> "This show also confirmed that when Ajira flight 316 arrived on the
> island, the year was 2007 & not 2008 (when the flight departed)."
>
> What the hell is that supposed to mean? �That both groups from A316
> time-skipped? �One to 1977 and the other a small hop back to 2007 !?
> Hmmm... � ;-)
Was it ever confirmed that flight 316 departed in 2008? Maybe they're
just playing fast and loose with the term "three years" since the O6
got back in January of 2005.
On the other hand, there was a bright light, and it went from night to
day, so it's certainly possible that those landing on Hydra skipped
back a bit.
sol...@aol.com
Yes, I noticed the switch from night to day. In retrospect, I think
it's fairly certain that that was supposed to be a subtle clue that
the rest of A316 had suffered some time displacement as well. =:-O
Who the hell knows!! ;-)
-/< /\ />-
thinbluemime
> On Apr 23, 8:28�am, thinbluemime <thinbluem...@tbm.com> wrote:
>> ...it was Charles Widmore who faked the wreckage of Flight 815.
>
> How the hell did I miss that confirmation?
>
I watched the recap online and missed it also...the feed was sporatic
though..
Looking for a recap download so I can rewatch...but not having much luck,
arghhhh
sol...@aol.com
It's a good question, although I think I can fanwank my way around
it. Even though the Island is difficult to find, it isn't
impossible. After all the Dharma Initiative found it.
And, Widmore had spent many years (and probably considerable resources
(the Black Rock first mate's journal, e.g.)) trying to find the
Island. He didn't want anyone searching for O816 because they might
accidentally find it.
Of course this generates an even greater mystery: How could Widmore
have known that O816 crashed on *the* Island?! =:-O
;-)
-/< /\ />-
verification word: later
Rick
"thinbluemime" <thinbl...@tbm.com> wrote in message
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Obviously he did it to make certain that no one else could find the island.
Yes, the island is hard to find, but this would be the first time that a
commercial airline had crashed in the area and would attract the attention
of authorities searching for the remains.
One thing I've always wondered about is the supply drops that we saw a few
seasons back. You would think that someone with Widmore's resources would
have tracked down who was running those flights and where they were
originating. It's obvious that the Dharma organization must still exist off
island somewhere with the knowledge of how to get to the island.
Marko Renner
> Of course this generates an even greater mystery: How could Widmore
> have known that O816 crashed on *the* Island?! =:-O
Remember the videotape Ben showed to Locke (the former
Red Sox Tape)? Widmore probably interrogated the Other
before killing him.
And, as flight 815 mysteriously lost contact and
disappeared, the whereabouts of this plane would be a
good question.
Marko
Darren Delgado
I don't think the skipping and what happened to Frank, Ben, Sun etc.
are the same thing.
The Faraday rocket test established that things encounter a time
discrepancy when entering/leaving the Island's "space" at certain
angles. This is what happened to the majority of the Ajira
passengers. Arriving in 2007 from a flight that departed in 2008 is
right in line with what we saw earlier in the series, both with the
rocket and with Doc Ray's body washing up on shore before he was
killed on the boat.
But Jack, Sayid, Hurley and Kate were yanked into 1977 by whatever is
in charge of the yanking and needs them to do something there.
sol...@aol.com
On Apr 23, 9:12�am, "Rick" <r...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "thinbluemime" <thinbluem...@tbm.com> wrote in message
> > "Why" stage a fake crash? Criminal law looks at motive, means and
> > opportunity. The motivation to stage a fake crash could NOT be to conceal
> > the island, because the island is already so difficult to find.
>
> > So why did Widmore spend so much time, money and resources to stage a fake
> > crash?
>
> Obviously he did it to make certain that no one else could find the island.
> Yes, the island is hard to find, but this would be the first time that a
> commercial airline had crashed in the area and would attract the attention
> of authorities searching for the remains.
>
> One thing I've always wondered about is the supply drops that we saw a few
> seasons back. �You would think that someone with Widmore's resources would
> have tracked down who was running those flights and where they were
> originating. �It's obvious that the Dharma organization must still exist off
> island somewhere with the knowledge of how to get to the island.
Yes, I think Dharma still exists and is now (2007 ;-) represented by
Ilana and Bram on the Island and Hawking off the Island. But Hawking
had only recently determined the new location of the Island. The food
drops were made (disregarding any time travelling food drops ;-)
before the Island was moved. ;-)
-/< /\ />-
Darren Delgado
> "thinbluemime" <thinbluem...@tbm.com> wrote in message
Unless the supply drops were all sent at one time, at different
angles, set to arrive in different time periods, exploiting the
Island's weird time discrepancy.
sol...@aol.com
That's a good point, especially since we have no idea of exactly
*when* that videotape was made. ;-)
-/< /\ />-
Tikbalang
impossible to find the real crash and after a few weeks no one would
be looking for it anyway?
Tim
Maybe the island is putting them where it needs them, in time, too.
I assumed the change from day to night was similar to the rocket test
that Daniel did earlier, where the time from outside of the bubble to
inside it works in mysterious ways.
Tim
Somebody would sure need to know his angles for that to work.
thinbluemime
wrote:
> Looking for a recap download so I can rewatch...but not having much
> luck, arghhhh
Audio
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=6fb51a0f13eeeae97069484bded33bcd4efc3b957c61ec82
http://www.mediafire.com/file/1yl2yuifnjw/Lost The Story of the Oceanic
6_2009-04-23_AUDIO.mp3
Around 2 min in, is the segment where Widmore's responsibility for the
fake wreck is mentioned.
sol...@aol.com
Yes, that makes sense. The differences in the time shifts are
interesting. The rocket was only off by a few minues, and it moved
forward in time. Ray was off by around a day, and A316 was off by at
least several days, and they bot moved backward in time. =:-O
-/< /\ />-
sol...@aol.com
On Apr 23, 5:26�pm, Tim <jmeth...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> sol...@aol.com wrote:
> > Hi tdciago,
>
> > On Apr 23, 8:36 am, tdciago <tdci...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 23, 9:23 am, sol...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>> "This show also confirmed that when Ajira flight 316 arrived on the
> >>> island, the year was 2007 & not 2008 (when the flight departed)."
> >>> What the hell is that supposed to mean? That both groups from A316
> >>> time-skipped? One to 1977 and the other a small hop back to 2007 !?
> >>> Hmmm... ;-)
> >> Was it ever confirmed that flight 316 departed in 2008? Maybe they're
> >> just playing fast and loose with the term "three years" since the O6
> >> got back in January of 2005.
>
> >> On the other hand, there was a bright light, and it went from night to
> >> day, so it's certainly possible that those landing on Hydra skipped
> >> back a bit.
>
> > Yes, I noticed the switch from night to day. �In retrospect, I think
> > it's fairly certain that that was supposed to be a subtle clue that
> > the rest of A316 had suffered some time displacement as well. �=:-O
>
> > Who the hell knows!! �;-)
>
> Maybe the island is putting them where it needs them, in time, too.
> I assumed the change from day to night was similar to the rocket test
> that Daniel did earlier, where the time from outside of the bubble to
> inside it works in mysterious ways.
Yes, I have maintained from the very beginning of the time-skips that
they were deliberately planned by some intelligence (Jacob, the
Island ;-). I also think they all accomplished something that had to
be done *to change the past*. Only time will tell. ;-)
-/< /\ />-
Jim Gysin
Darren Delgado sent the following on 4/23/2009 9:44 AM:
Wouldn't the random nature of the island's movements make this a
crapshoot, though?
--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI