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FIVE STAR POLL - Once Upon a Time Ep 19 "The Return" 4/22/12 (Spoilers)

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Remysun

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Apr 23, 2012, 9:17:47 PM4/23/12
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Sorry for the delay. Wiki made me think this week was a rerun. Then I
got busy.

As Mr. Gold attempts to uncover August's true identity, Emma confronts
Regina about her involvement in Kathryn's disappearance and David
attempts to reconcile with Mary Margaret. Meanwhile, Rumpelstiltskin's
backstory continues to be revealed along with his attempt to transform
back into a human and restart living a normal life with his son.

5 Stars -- Second Coming
0 Stars -- Store Credit Only

tdciago

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Apr 23, 2012, 10:16:37 PM4/23/12
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On Apr 23, 9:17 pm, Remysun <remysun2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 5 Stars -- Second Coming
> 0 Stars -- Store Credit Only

3.5 stars. Solid episode, but it teased more than it delivered. We
did discover the original purpose of the curse, though, and what's in
it for Gold. Until he finds his son, he can't really be rooting for
Emma, yet he's not on Regina's side either.

David B

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Apr 23, 2012, 11:47:30 PM4/23/12
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4.25, I really thought that August would turn out to be both Baelfire and
Pinocchio and now I'm thinking he's just Pinocchio. Once again Robert
Carlyle shows how good of an actor he is.

tdciago

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Apr 24, 2012, 12:16:53 AM4/24/12
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On Apr 23, 11:47 pm, "David B" <bothec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 4.25, I really thought that August would turn out to be both Baelfire and
> Pinocchio

How could he have been both? We saw Pinocchio in the pilot, and he
was younger than Baelfire and looked very different.

> and now I'm thinking he's just Pinocchio.

Well, they're certainly trying to make us think that, both within the
show and in the promo for next week, where they put together a couple
of scenes and dialogue to connect the two of them. August definitely
has a problem with his legs. Are they turning back into wood? If you
look at the promo photos for the next episode, you can see that there
may also be a connection to the leg problem he had when he approached
the shoreline with Emma in an earlier episode:
http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Pinocchio/Gallery

I was wondering if the little dog figurine that August used as a
paperweight was some kind of clue. At least I think it was a dog. It
was hard to see clearly because the room was dark.

When we first saw Pinocchio in the pilot, he was sanding a whale
carving (http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Pinocchio ), a reference
to Monstro. I think Dr. Whale looks more like young Pinocchio than
August does, although the hair color is still different.

Professor Bubba

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:07:49 AM4/24/12
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In article
<b1dd44a0-3730-4993...@z3g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
tdciago <tdc...@aol.com> wrote:

> I was wondering if the little dog figurine that August used as a
> paperweight was some kind of clue. At least I think it was a dog. It
> was hard to see clearly because the room was dark.

It was a donkey. That would be appropriate for Pinocchio, of course.

tdciago

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:45:35 AM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 1:07 am, Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:
> tdciago <tdci...@aol.com> wrote:
> > I was wondering if the little dog figurine that August used as a
> > paperweight was some kind of clue.  At least I think it was a dog.  It
> > was hard to see clearly because the room was dark.
>
> It was a donkey.  That would be appropriate for Pinocchio, of course.

Ah, thank you very much. Can they really be giving away August's
identity in such a blatant way? That's rather disappointing.

Professor Bubba

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Apr 24, 2012, 6:11:29 AM4/24/12
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<3f722d5f-ef99-4cff...@v22g2000vby.googlegroups.com>,
Yes. My wife (who, unlike me, reads about this show endlessly) says
that there's been a lot of fannish speculation that August is
Pinocchio, but I don't know how that idea arose. The only thing I'd
ever noticed is that August's typewriter is the colors of a tree: brown
with green keys. (I remember those. They were Remingtons, I think; a
bit different from the usual industrial colors.)

suzeeq

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:43:18 AM4/24/12
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It's probably a red herring. They've hinted strongly in previous
episodes that August was Baelfire and now he turns out not to be. So
they may be dropping too many clues now pointing to Pinnochio, but he
won't be.

Arthur Lipscomb

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Apr 24, 2012, 9:47:13 AM4/24/12
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On 4/23/2012 9:16 PM, tdciago wrote:
> On Apr 23, 11:47 pm, "David B"<bothec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 4.25, I really thought that August would turn out to be both Baelfire and
>> Pinocchio
>
> How could he have been both?


Not that I think this is the case but he could have been turned into the
puppet by his father (to keep him from leaving), the blue fairy (per his
request), or any other number of magics.

I was thinking he was going to be Jack after he was handed the magic bean.

thinbluemime

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Apr 24, 2012, 5:08:15 AM4/24/12
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Pinocchio was the wooden son of a toy wood carver. Carver-Surgeon. Dr
Whale's pursuit of all the female patrons of Storybooke may be a
indication that Pleasure Island reform school P attended didn't have a
lasting effect into adulthood, and that lying Dr Whale is still an ass.

This is just a guess, even the spoilers out there don't point in this
direction with most fan posts indicating August is Pinocchio.
I have read that Pinocchio's ID won't be revealed until season 2. But with
the fake DNA evidence of Katheryn coming to light, if Whale is involved,
his woody driven tail chasing ways may soon be cut short.


I watched the Disney animated Pinocchio film a couple weeks ago. When P
and Jiminy first begin their search underwater for Geppetto they spent
what seems like hours in the ocean talking to the fish.

And then near the movie climax, Pinocchio drowns! Say What?

suzeeq

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Apr 24, 2012, 10:19:03 AM4/24/12
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Oooh, maybe that's who August is - Jack.

tdciago

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Apr 24, 2012, 1:12:29 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 5:08 am, thinbluemime <thinbluemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But with
> the fake DNA evidence of Katheryn coming to light, if Whale is involved,
> his woody driven tail chasing ways may soon be cut short.

That reminds me, Sydney's confession included something about getting
a heart from the hospital. Say what? Does this mean that Storybrooke
residents are starting to die off since Emma got the clock moving?
And which employee gave him the heart? I thought that was a bizarre
detail.


Remysun

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Apr 24, 2012, 3:10:12 PM4/24/12
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On Apr 24, 5:08 am, thinbluemime <thinbluemi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I watched the Disney animated Pinocchio film a couple weeks ago. When P
> and Jiminy first begin their search underwater for Geppetto they spent
> what seems like hours in the ocean talking to the fish.
>
> And then near the movie climax, Pinocchio drowns! Say What?

Baptism/salvation theme.

David B

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Apr 25, 2012, 12:05:45 AM4/25/12
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:16:53 -0700, tdciago <tdc...@aol.com> wrote:

> On Apr 23, 11:47 pm, "David B" <bothec...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 4.25, I really thought that August would turn out to be both Baelfire
>> and
>> Pinocchio
>
> How could he have been both? We saw Pinocchio in the pilot, and he
> was younger than Baelfire and looked very different.

I had a weird theory that Baelfire at some point got turned into a tree
and then years later Gepetto used wood from that tree to create Pinocchio.
So he'd be both.
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