Lost
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Now With Superspoilage!!
I am - Hercules!!
Normally we wouldn't post something with so many punishingly gigantor
spoilers - but thousands saw the "Lost" season premiere Wednesday
night, so you can be certain all this stuff will be everywhere anyway.
BEWARE THE MANY MANY UNINVISOTEXTED SUPERSPOILERS!!
"tehstupid" says:
Hey Herc- Lucky to be living here in Hawaii, I was able to attend the
premiere of Lost's season 2 opener a week early. Some of the cast and
crew were there including Naveen Andrews, Dominic Monaghan, Josh
Holloway, Maggie Grace, Matthew Fox, Daniel Dae Kim, Harold Perrineau
were there also joined by newcomers Adewale Akinnouye-Agbaje, Michelle
Rodriguez, and Cynthia Watros. Producers Jack Bender and Jean Higgins
were also there.
The crowd turnout was huge despite the rainy weather. Before and during
the show, the rain came down hard but no one seemed to leave. It was
"end of the world type weather" I suppose.
After a short introduction by the mayor and Jack Bender (who asked for
us not to spoil the show for those who have to wait until next week),
the show kicked off.
Here's a summary of the episode for those who can't wait until next
week. All others turn away now.
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Okay, you have been warned.
The season opener starts with a "previously on Lost" recap of events
which happened last season. After that the buzzing of an alarm clock
goes off and we are in someones room. The unknown man wakes up and is
going about his morning routine of working out, making breakfast,
showering, etc. During his routine, an explosion is heard and the room
shakes. The man rushes to grab a gun as the camera moves away and out
of the room, down a corridor, and up a shaft to show Locke and Jack
peering down the hatch.
The flashbacks in this episode center around Jack in what seems to be
his earliest flashback to date, excluding the childhood ones. He is
sporting a new, longer, haircut and we see him in the emergency room
treating victims of a car crash. He is forced to decide between working
on the man who was hit or the woman who crashed her car into the other
guy. He chooses the woman and works his magic. After the emergency room
sequence we see that the woman is in fact Julie Bowen who played Jack's
wife last season. She needs an operation because her spine is crushed
and will almost certainly be permanently paralyzed for the rest of her
life. Jack isn't too optimistic about her situation.
Afterwards, Jack is called aside by his father who tells him that he
has to be optimistic at times even though it may be giving false hope.
Jack then promises Sarah that he will fix her before starting the
operation. Next we see Jack running up and down stairs in a stadium.
Jack slips on a stair and twists his ankle, but another runner comes
over and helps Jack. They get to talking and the other guy's name is
Desmund. He is an athlete training to go around the world. He talks to
Jack about his promise to fix Sarah and that he broke his promise and
they talk about miracles happening. Desmund gets up and before leaving
says, "see you in another life." Sarah wakes up after the surgery and
Jack is sititng by the bed. He tells her that he broke the promise and
that she is paralyzed from the waist down. She says that he must be
joking because she can wiggle her toes. They share a happy moment.
Note that this all takes place throughout the episode through several
flashbacks, not just one like I described it.
Back on the island, Hurley explains to Jack about the numbers being bad
luck and Jack replies, "they're just numbers." Seeing that the ladder
down the hatch is broken, Jack decides to go back to the others and
tell them that they need to find somewhere else to hide since they
can't lower everyone into the hatch one by one. Back at the camp,
Shannon has lost Vincent and goes off looking for him along with Sayid.
They are seperated and Shannon sees a drenched Walt standing in the
middle of the jungle. Sayid comes up behind Shannon and she turns back
but Walt is gone. Jack tells everyone that they can't go into the
hatch, but they can make cmap there and that they'll be fine. Locke
comes back to gather some cables because he is going into the hatch.
After talking with Jack, Kate decides to go along with Locke.
Locke lowers Kate into the hatch and at the bottom, she says that
theres something down there. Next thing you know white light is shining
out of the hatch and Locke pulls up a Kate-less cable. Locke decides to
go in after her. Jack goes after Kate and Locke and gets to the hatch
to see no one there. He uses the cable to descend into the hatch.
At the bottom is a long corridor, reminiscent of a submarine in the way
that there are pipes all over. There is a wall with a large mural
painted on the wall with the paints still on the ground next to it.
Then there is a sound of a motor which turns out to be something like a
surveilance camera. Jack pulls out the gun and all of a sudden loud
music starts playing and bright white light is shining down the
corridors. Jack turns down a hall away from the light and makes his way
into a large room with lots of computers and machinery. He is about to
press a button on one of the keyboards when, from behind, Locke says,
"you shouldn't do that." Jack turns around and pulls the gun on Locke.
Then a gun is pulled to the side of Locke and we see the mysterious man
from the beginning, but not much of his face. After some threats and a
false shot being fired, we see that the mysterious man is actually
Desmund, whom Jack met in his flashback. Jack says, "you...?" and the
episode closes with the trademark "LOST" and DOOSH sound.
So thats the first episode of the new season. No sight of anyone who
was on the raft. No sight of the new cast members. I found the episode
to be a little disappointing in the sense that not much was
accomplished, but then again it just makes me want more Lost. Seems
like we've got another winning season ahead of us.
After the show, we were asked to fill out surveys and as a gift for
doing so, we were given Lost license plate frames which say "I'd rather
be... LOST." And even more after that they also premiered the new ABC
show Invasion. Yes, Lost is a hard act to follow and not many people
stuck around for Invasion, or it could have been because to the rain.
Well I can't wait for more of Lost's second season.
if you use this, call me tehstupid.
"Lost" returns to ABC with new episodes on Wednesday.
P.I.M.P. DiBiase
trijcomm
season. This show is nothing but a cross between "Gilligan's Island"
and "Lost in Space." It was very boring. I'm surprised it made it
through one season.
T.U.T. v 5.0
I haven't seen the show but I heard there's nothing but beautiful
people trapped on an island and all of the ugly have either died or
been killed by drug runners.
----
The Urban Terrorist Version 5.0 - Besides, I like him better as Charlie
on Party of 5.
J.T.
. . . says the guy crossposting to the pro wrestling groups . . .
AnomUsrOv TheIntrnet
wrote:
>So thats the first episode of the new season.
>No sight of the new cast members.
Isn't Desmund a new cast member?
Thanks for the report, I'm anxiously awaiting next Wednesday night.
AUOTI
Hello Moto
tunnel, Dr. Jack Sheppard found himself bewildered and facing a
harrowing decision. His trust and character are tested again in ABC's
"Lost," which won the best drama series Emmy on Sunday and returns for
its highly anticipated second season on Wednesday.
"Anytime people are in very extreme circumstances, dealing with life
and death and dealing with survival - I think we can find truth in
those moments," said Matthew Fox, who plays the reluctant leader of a
group of plane crash survivors stranded on a mysterious island.
"Lost" fans, who have patiently waited all summer for answers following
last season's two-hour finale, will finally find out what's beyond the
metal hatch that leads deep into the earth.
The answer - while still cryptic - was revealed last week to thousands
of frenzied fans who turned out at Waikiki Beach for a special
screening of the new season's first episode and to catch a glimpse of
the "Lost" stars. It was a red carpet event like no other, complete
with screaming fans, crashing surf and a sunset over the Pacific Ocean.
It was in marked contrast to last year where the crowds who turned out
to see an unknown ABC pilot filmed in Hawaii didn't know who the actors
were.
"There is a slight difference, isn't there? It's quite shocking," said
Naveen Andrews, who plays former Iraqi soldier Sayid.
With thrilling twists, unpredictable story lines and a diverse cast,
"Lost" has attracted a loyal following. The official "Lost" magazine
comes out soon and the recently released DVD box set of the first
season is a top seller at Amazon.com.
"The success of a show to this level is always surprising. It takes on
a level of pop culture which you can never fully predict," said Dominic
Monaghan, who plays rock-star junkie Charlie. "Because of that, it's a
little trippy."
The show's first season was so well received, cast members realize they
must deliver a standout sophomore season.
"We're dealing with an immense kind of pressure to keep the quality
up," Andrews said. "It's make or break this season, quite frankly. ...
We have an audience now. We can't let them down."
Monaghan agrees.
"There's more pressure now because we're not the hot new show, we're
just the hot show," he said. "So we kind of have to back that up now
instead of being about the hype. We have to deliver."
"Lost" co-creator Damon Lindelof said viewers can relate to the
characters, often picking their favorites.
"At the end of the day, the show at its core is about the characters,"
he said. "I think the reason people really love this show is they find
the island mysteries are compelling, but they watch every week because
they really bond with the people."
One of the most popular characters is the enigmatic outdoorsman Locke,
played by Terry O'Quinn, the oldest cast member at 53.
"One of the reasons I've been able to make it work is because I'm very
sympathetic with the character," O'Quinn said. "He's a seeker for
answers and for something to believe in. He's skeptical. He's dubious
and he's been burnt and I've been all those things."
Through flashbacks, viewers this season will see different sides of the
castaways, who may share more in common than just sitting in coach
seats on the ill-fated Oceanic Airlines flight No. 815.
Fox said his character is trying to rationalize the paranormal
experiences on the island.
"Jack is a very scientific man, very logical and obviously with
everything he has seen on this island, he's going to have to find a way
to snap out of this denial and start confronting this real reality he's
existing in," Fox said.
Evangeline Lilly, who plays sexy jailbird Kate, said viewers will see a
more aggressive character.
"I just think the environment she's in is very savage and eventually
the savage side of Kate is going to have to come out a little more than
we've seen so far," she said.
Michael, played by Harold Perrineau, struggles this season. In last
season's finale, Michael's young son Walt is kidnapped on the high seas
by a group of men. Walt makes a startling appearance in Wednesday's
episode.
"After the plane crash and all the other stuff, someone snatches your
kid. It can't get any worse than that," Perrineau said. "Michael goes
from bad to worse this year. You'll see him dig deep to really deal
with what's going on."
In all the madness, there will be some love on the island this season.
"We're in the 9 o'clock slot now," Andrews said, referring to the
show's new time. "Men and women alone on the island, they have needs.
Needs that must be fulfilled."
"Lost" has been a ratings winner for ABC, which took mostly unknown
actors cast by Lindelof and J.J. Abrams and created one of the
network's most expensive pilots ever around them.
Fans have also embraced the diversity of characters.
"That's what's great about it. Everyone is so different. Different
ages. Different nationalities," said Australian Emilie de Ravin
(Claire).
The characters include a young Korean couple who exclusively speak to
each other in their native language. Lindelof said English was not an
option for Jin and Sun.
"I think there's this sort of interesting American conceit, `Everybody
else on the planet should speak English,"' he said. "The fact that
there are people who don't speak English, we sort of demand they adapt
to us, as opposed to the other way around.
"So we wanted to make a commentary on language."
Lindelof said as long the characters "bounce off each other" in
interesting ways, have real conflicts and continue to develop, the show
will continue to be compelling.
"For how long? Who knows," he said. "But all I know is we write one
episode at a time and we've been doing OK so far."
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Hello Moto
'A liquid glowing ominously.'
FEAR NOW THESE SPOILERS!!
LOST 2.1!!
I am - Hercules!!
I got about a million emails over the summer from tough-talking AICN readers
yelling at me about how they're supposedly not watching "Lost" this season
because it was such a wiener-tease in the season finale.
Yeah, it was a wiener-tease, but it was one of the best wiener-teases ever.
Hurley's hilariously disoriented reaction to Arzt's bitching alone was worth
the tune-in. And then . other stuff happened .
Anyway, you're all big giant liars. Who's not going to tune in to see what's
in that fucking hatch? I'm not strong enough and you're not either, no
matter how strenuously you posture.
Today, at least, we are all the bitches of the newly-minted Emmy-winner.
Many thousands sat in the Oahu rain to watch the second-season premiere last
Wednesday, and I think everybody there wrote in about it. 2.1 sounds way too
good.
What follows is a giant set of spoilers for tonight's episode, so toxic they
had to be cloaked with double-secret invisotext. Do yourself a favor and don't
fucking read them. Don't be a little bitch like me. Be a man and wait till
tonight.
Here's "JV," who risked pneumonia to bring to you the most detailed summary
of 2.1 posted to this site so far:
. The episode begins (after a recap) with a glowing green cursor (early 80's
green monochrome) with an odd K-shape, and of course we are immediately
reminded of The Matrix. We hear some typing on what sounds to be an equally
ancient keyboard (sort of like the old IBM PC or Apple 2). Then some music
starts to play, it's the chorus to Cass Eliot's (Mama of the Mamas & Papas)
Make your own Kind of Music. Lyrics are here for those who want to assign
meaning: http://www.casselliot.com/lyrics.htm. It's very retro, very 70's,
very out of place. Take a listen at Amazon and youll see.
. We see someone with blond long hair, fairly muscular, going through a
morning routine that includes lots of excercise? Is it Sawyer? Nope it
isn't, but we don't see a face. He's surprised by a shaking explosion.
. Then we see him inject a drug intravenously, a liquid that is glowing
ominously. Then things seem to go in fast forward and the theme changes away
from excerise to something more sinister, we hear creaking chains and gears
similar to the black smoke monster, he gets a gunand then the camera moves
upward and we see a shaft, it leads up, and of course ends at hatch entrance
with Jack & Locke peering down like owls.
. It's dark at night, and with torches, Locke, Jack, and Kate are looking
down into the hatch, with Hurley standing back. The entire rest of the
episode other than flashbacks will be dark because it all happens at night.
. Jack sees the broken ladder and announces their plan to hide everyone
won't work. Locke & Kate ignore him and examine the bottom, dropping a rock,
and hearing a splash, causing them to conclude there's a shallow water
puddle about 40 feet down, Locke: 50 feet tops. Locke thinks they can rig a
harness using cable from the fuselage, but Jack want to go back to the cave,
and so does Hurley.
. Locke says 'we went through a lot to get here', but Jack is seriously
skeptical and impatient and announces that we are done and everyone's
heading back to the cave. He's almost itching for an argument with Locke,
who thinks for a while, then surprisingly concedes defeat, but keeps bugging
him and says: Why don't you want to go down there, Jack?
. Flash back to Jack's past. He has lots of hair and looks like a young Tom
Cruise. He's in the ER, two patients from a car accident come in. One a
woman, another a man. Jack tends to the woman, and is in cool control, as we
hear the other patient dying, as Jack clearly hears but continues working.
There's a long back story where this of course is his fiancée/wife to be,
"Sarah" (Julie Bowen from last season). But the first thing he hears is the
woman whisper tragically that she has to dance at her wedding, so she's
already engaged to someone else at this point.
. Back at camp in the caves, Charlie and the survivors are arguing about the
french woman and his skepticism of her claim that the Others are coming to
kill them all. Shannon comes in stressed, and is looking for the dog, the
only thing really entrusted to her: i lost the damn dog.
. Meanwhile the hatch crew are about to walk back, and Hurley is arguing
with Locke! Whoa he's really mad! Hurley's really mad at Locke for lighting
the fuse as Hurley was running toward the hatching shouting don't do it.
Locke doesn't give a damn, and almost amused, and carelessly dismissive.
Locke claims he was just excited, everyone was excited right? Excited to get
inside!
. Jack corrects him: to get inside, to save everyone's life, or maybe it was
just our destiny, right Locke? Tension. Kate also discovers the hatch door,
which had blown off into the jungle. She calls everyone to look, because it
says QUARANTINE on the inside!
. Back at the caves, Shannon is increasingly stressed about the dog and
explains to Sayid: watching the dog was the only thing anyone asked me to
do! Sayid protests that she's too exhausted, but she is determined to go
searching for Vincent out in the jungle in the middle of the night. There's
Vincent! Then dog runs off. She gets separated, falls, then hears
whispering, and the camera angle is from above her, as if something is
watching her. She gets up and sees... Walt (could be Michael, screen was
dark) standing distressed in front of her, ghost like with arms down and
palms out, much like Locke's old vision of bloody Boone. He looks totally
solid.
. Sayid soon finds her, and the vision is gone, and she is very spooked.
Walking back to camp, Kate & Locke are now discussing the hatch, and he
tries to convince her that weird stuff is going on in the island, because
everyone saw the black smoke. Locke says Jack saw it too, so how does he
explain that? You can tell Kate is sympathetic.
. Meanwhile, Jack and Hurley are talking at length. These two talking so
deeply is unusual too. Hurley says Jack should be more chipper, then Jack
confronts him on why Hurley ran in toward the dynamite saying the numbers
are bad the numbers are bad! Hurley is reluctant, thinking Jack will think
hes crazy, then begins with: well I was in this psych ward, and there was
this guy repeating these numbers.
. He continues to relate his story about the lottery win and how his life
had become cursed, and that the numbers and therefore the hatch are cursed.
Jack is unimpressed, and Hurley is angry Jack doesn't believe him and tells
Jack his sympathy sucks.
. Back to more flashback on the Jack's history with the patient, and how he
tells her her back is hopelessly fractured, and that her chances for walking
are pretty close to zero. His father soon talks to him and tells him that
even in hopeless cases, he should give his patients hope, some hope. Jack
says he's a realist, and that to give hope would be false hope. His dad says
that's fine, because it's still hope.
. Back at the camp, Shannon is still spooked about the whispering and her
vision, and concludes that something happened to the boat party, and Sayid
thinks she's just exhausted, and that the boat is fine. The hatch party
returns to the caves. Everyone crowds in to listen.
. Jack relates to the survivors that don't already know that there is in
fact a hatch in the jungle, and they had just returned to open it to hide
everyone inside, and that the plan is now axed, and that Arzt didn't make
it, and the survivor mob gets frenzied, asking about the Others. Confusion.
. Jack shouts, leader style, and tells everyone that everythings going to be
okay. They have four guns, they'll stay together, post lookouts, and wait
for sunrise in three hours. He promises they'll be ok. Jack then spots Locke
getting cable to go back to the hatch. Jack tells him that's not smart. But
Locke says that Jack is probably right, its probably safer to wait, wait for
morning, wait for the raft people to get help, wait wait wait, etc, but that
hes just tired of waiting. Hes going to do things himself.
. Jack & Kate start joking about the glass half full thing, (he tries a
joke: there's a glass?) then she announces what shes really trying to say:
shes going to the hatch, and says she understands Jack has to stay. Kate
says shes going to go help Locke in case Locke falls or gets in trouble.
Jack says right.
. Back to flashback. Jack meets with the patients fiance, and tells him how
bad it is. The fiance is really unhappy that she might not be able to go the
bathroom herself, make love with him, and so forth. It's clear to Jack that
the fiance will bail. Jack later meets with the patient, and they have a
chat, and she lets him off the hook, he doesn't mention the fiancé.
. Back at the hatch Kate catches up with Locke, she's surprised he isn't
down there already. He proposes that he lower Kate on a cable. She's iffy,
but he says she's lighter in weight. He lowers her down, his hands slip and
she falls and drops her flashlight, but his now bloodied hands manage to
catch the cable and arrest her fall.
. She's all right, and before she decides what to do, Locke lowers her
again, and she shrugs her shoulders and says nothing as she goes deeper.
Looking down, she can see the flashlight at the bottom of the shaft, and
there's clearly a cave or passageway. It is horror movie spooky, and you
expect someone to pick up the flashlight. Right on cue there is a bright
light from the cave leading to the shaft, and as Kate screams, Locke wonders
what to do. Locke sees a blindingly bright light shoot out from the shaft
and the cable is suddenly pulled hard, and his bloody hands can't stop it.
The chain goes slack, and the light shuts off with a slam. He pulls up the
cable which is empty, and there is no reply from the now dark shaft.
. This might be out of order, but there is more flashback. Jack is running
up and down to all the steps of a huge stadium. He see someone else doing
the same thing one section over, and he is driven to compete, and runs
harder, as if punishing himself. Then Jack stumbles and falls. The other man
runs over and they chat and decide it is a sprain. The other man has an
accent, and says he was almost a doctor, his name is Desmond. Desmond is
training for an event but he gets out of Jack that Jack seems to be
punishing himself for something. Its weird he seems to see inside Jack's
head and teases him that Jack seemed to be trying to compete with him, and
on and on they have a double conversation about Jack and his promise he
can't keep to his patient, or is it the story about his sprained ankle.
Desmond says miracles can happen. Hes almost talking like an evangelist. The
other man offers him some water, and after more chatting, he leaves, saying
very clearly, see you in the next life brother or something like that. Jack
is bemused and watches him run off.
. After he returns to the hospital, he is still sweaty and Sarah mentions
that he stinks as a joke. He says he was doing the stadium steps running
thing and explains it when she doesn't know the term for it. He starts to
cry and says that he failed her and that the operation was a failure. He
couldn't fix her and that shell never walk again, shes paralyzed.
. She says, youre yanking my chain right doctor? Jack thinks that this is
even more tragic, and is about to confirm that, indeed he is not joking and
she will never walk again. But at that moment she says that Jack must be
joking because she can wiggle her toes, watch! Jack watches in growing
disbelief as she can wiggle her toes, and he cries even more as he gives
more doctor-like tests: can you feel this? he press on her leg again, can
you feel this? this? It's a miracle.
. Back at camp, Hurley is surprised that Jack has changed his mind and has
decided to go back to the hatch. Jack finds the hatch area dark and
deserted, and he climbs down the cable. He seems a gloomy passageway with
old containers of cement, a mysterious painting painted on the wall, and
various lighted switches and pipes. He enters into a large domed geodesic
like room with some ancient computers, its so silent and so weird! And
suddenly that Cass Eliot song from the beginning begins to play, really
loud. It's totally loud, totally out of place, and he's totally scared as he
tries to stay calm. He sees the green computer cursor and is about to touch
it, when you hear , I wouldn't do that. It's Locke. Locke has a gun to his
head around a corner, and another voice says drop your gun or he dies. Jack
doesn't seem to give a damn as he has been angry and suspicious of Locke all
episode. The other guy comes into view and fires a shot into the ceiling to
say he's serious, but Jack doesn't budge. He doesn't trust Locke and is
willing to take the chance that Locke will get shot. Eventually we see them
pointing guns at each other with the other guy holding Locke hostage. His
face comes into view, and Jack's jaw drops. YOU!
. Its the guy from the stadium.
. L O S T
Eeeee-wah eeeee-wah eeeee-wah .
9 p.m. Wednesday. ABC.
Mottola Inside The Hatch
adversaries Jack and Locke peering down an eerie shaft sunk deep into
the earth. For fans who waited all summer for answers, the wait may be
over - but the questions are just beginning.
In Wednesday night's second-season premiere of the Hawaii-filmed
castaway drama, Jack, Locke and Kate separately descended into the
shaft after blowing the metal hatch.
Keeping with "Lost" tradition, what lies beneath was as perplexing as
it was revealing - electricity, plumbing, a computer room and a man
with a thick accent living a subterranean existence. Surprisingly, Jack
had met the man before.
The man's intentions weren't divulged in the episode, which ended in a
tense scene with him pointing a gun at the head of Locke and ordering
Jack to lower his firearm.
Jack didn't know who or what to believe. All he knew is that Kate is
missing.
"I think when people watch this show and get to the end of the episode,
they're dying to find out what's going to happen next week and they
really don't have any idea," said Matthew Fox, who plays Jack, a doctor
who has emerged as the unofficial leader of the plane-crash survivors.
Walt, the screaming youngster who was kidnapped at sea by a group of
men, made a startling appearance. Shannon stumbled across the boy in
the woods after being separated from Sayid.
Walt told Shannon to be quiet - then disappeared upon a second look.
When Shannon told the other castaways that she saw Walt, she
immediately was met with suspicion.
Was Shannon hallucinating? Was Walt hiding? Or is Walt a ghost?
Those answers will be divulged in later episodes.
As the castaways became separated and their number dwindled during the
night, they grew increasingly impatient and distraught. But Jack
stepped up his leadership role, becoming the voice of hope.
"We're all going to be safe as long as we stay together," Jack said.
"The sun comes up in three hours and we're all going to be here to see
that happen."
In an emotional flashback, viewers also saw how Jack met his future
wife, Sarah.
Sarah, who's engaged to another man, seriously injured her spine in a
car accident and is believed to be paralyzed from the waist down. She
told Jack that she wants to "dance at her wedding," and needs his help.
While performing surgery, Jack promised to fix her, which later
troubled him. After Jack informed the fiance that Sarah most likely
will be paralyzed, the fiance panicked.
"Lost" addicts remain left with many questions. But as Daniel Dae Kim,
who plays Korean tough guy Jin, put it:
"Our writers are incredibly smart. I'm sure once they start answering
questions for the audience, they'll be asking five more for every one
they answer.
"They'll have a lot more to think about."
09/21/05 22:16 EDT