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David / Amicus

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Oct 30, 2009, 9:38:53 PM10/30/09
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A Sacramento, California radio station had a contest. Drink lots of
water and see who could go the longest without urinating.

A woman died. The family sued. Jury awards millions of $$$$!!!!

Imo it should never have gone to court in the first place. Like people
who smoke for decades and then get cancer and sue the tobacco company!

David Johnston

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Oct 30, 2009, 9:49:07 PM10/30/09
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:38:53 -0700, Ami...@webtv.net (David / Amicus)
wrote:

The lethality of drinking too much water is well publicized so she'd
certainly know the danger, is it?

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theget

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Oct 30, 2009, 10:19:10 PM10/30/09
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On Oct 30, 9:57 pm, Babaganoosh <n...@spam.fried> wrote:
> In article <tl5ne5ptpgcq8g1ghdp18t9l34vealc...@4ax.com>,
> Nobody was forced to enter the contest, so I don't see the grounds for a
> lawsuit. Everybody knows, or should know, that overhydration can kill.


I'm not sure it matters if they know or not.

It seems from at least one news story that callers warned the radio
station that the contest could be dangerous. And they should have
known it was dangerous too, no? And they seem not to have had any
medical personal available during the contest.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/137227/-10m-damages-over-death-in-water-drinking-radio-contest-

I wonder if the law says something about enticing people to do
something dangerous -- life threatening -- for compensation.

Theget

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David Johnston

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Oct 30, 2009, 11:41:54 PM10/30/09
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:07:09 -0500, Babaganoosh <n...@spam.fried> wrote:

>In article
><17cb79d7-399c-4fe4...@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,


> theget <the...@bigmailbox.net> wrote:
>
>> I wonder if the law says something about enticing people to do
>> something dangerous -- life threatening -- for compensation.
>

>I still don't get it. Just because the radio station sponsored the
>contest means nothing - *they did not force anyone to enter*. Just
>because someone says "hey, drink a lot of water", doesn't mean anyone
>has to listen.

Suppose the radio station had just offered a prize of ten thousand
dollars to anyone willing to play a round of Russian Roulette. There
would be some takers. Should that be legal?

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theget

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Oct 31, 2009, 1:02:23 AM10/31/09
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On Oct 30, 11:41 pm, David Johnston <da...@block.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:07:09 -0500, Babaganoosh <n...@spam.fried> wrote:
> >In article
> ><17cb79d7-399c-4fe4-b1d4-29a6ad4f8...@l34g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,

> > theget <the...@bigmailbox.net> wrote:
>
> >> I wonder if the law says something about enticing people to do
> >> something dangerous -- life threatening -- for compensation.
>
> >I still don't get it. Just because the radio station sponsored the
> >contest means nothing - *they did not force anyone to enter*. Just
> >because someone says "hey, drink a lot of water", doesn't mean anyone
> >has to listen.
>
> Suppose the radio station had just offered a prize of ten thousand
> dollars to anyone willing to play a round of Russian Roulette.  There
> would be some takers.  Should that be legal?


No.

Although I can see some advantages to it being legal. 1) It would be
pleasing to Darwin.


BTW, how much money would you want as a prize before you'd play? What
if you were told by your doctor that you have a terminal disease that
is going to kill you before the day is out and you want to leave some
money to your loved ones.

What if they just rolled dice for the money? Should that be legal?

How about [a game of] Global Thermonuclear War?
Wouldn't you prefer a nice game of chess?
-- War Games.

Theget

Paul Bearer

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Oct 31, 2009, 1:47:43 PM10/31/09
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 01:49:07 GMT, David Johnston <da...@block.net>
wrote:

It's not well pusblicized, that is the problem.

As someone who works in Radio the station should loose it's liscense,

Paul Bearer

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Oct 31, 2009, 1:51:40 PM10/31/09
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:57:45 -0500, Babaganoosh <n...@spam.fried> wrote:
>Nobody was forced to enter the contest, so I don't see the grounds for a
>lawsuit. Everybody knows, or should know, that overhydration can kill.

As someone who is an EMT i'd wager that of 100 people probably 90+
of them won't know that you can die from drinking too much water.

Also there is a implication that if the station is running
the contest that it is safe, that a doctor is standing
by, and that the station has adiquete insurance to cover them

Paul Bearer

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Oct 31, 2009, 1:55:38 PM10/31/09
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:19:10 -0700 (PDT), theget
<the...@bigmailbox.net> wrote:
>It seems from at least one news story that callers warned the radio
>station that the contest could be dangerous. And they should have
>known it was dangerous too, no? And they seem not to have had any
>medical personal available during the contest.
>
>http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/137227/-10m-damages-over-death-in-water-drinking-radio-contest-
>
>I wonder if the law says something about enticing people to do
>something dangerous -- life threatening -- for compensation.
>
>Theget
If the station "entices people to do

something dangerous -- life threatening -- for compensation."
potentially the owner/management could be charged
with manslaughter.

Also a prudent station would have had a doctor on
the premises and had an ambulance on the scene.

Paul Bearer

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Oct 31, 2009, 2:00:25 PM10/31/09
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:07:09 -0500, Babaganoosh <n...@spam.fried> wrote:

>In article

>> I wonder if the law says something about enticing people to do
>> something dangerous -- life threatening -- for compensation.
>

>I still don't get it. Just because the radio station sponsored the
>contest means nothing - *they did not force anyone to enter*. Just
>because someone says "hey, drink a lot of water", doesn't mean anyone
>has to listen.

But bear in mind the station obligated to serve the public interest,
running a contest that gets someone killed won't servet that
public interest.

"they did not force anyone to enter" well by 1. mentioning
it on the air and 2. offering prizes they "strongly" encouraged
it. And it could be argued that by doing so it implied that
contest was safe. AFter all they didn't run a
disclaimer that the contest could be harmful or fatal.

Paul Bearer

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Oct 31, 2009, 2:03:00 PM10/31/09
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:41:54 GMT, David Johnston <da...@block.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:07:09 -0500, Babaganoosh <n...@spam.fried> wrote:

Wasn't there a station a while back that did that?

I seem to recall a case where a station did exactly that.

My understanding is it would not be legal and station management/
owners would be charged.

Paul Bearer

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Oct 31, 2009, 2:07:55 PM10/31/09
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:02:23 -0700 (PDT), theget
<the...@bigmailbox.net> wrote:
>BTW, how much money would you want as a prize before you'd play? What
>if you were told by your doctor that you have a terminal disease that
>is going to kill you before the day is out and you want to leave some
>money to your loved ones.
But then if you had a terminal illness and were going to die today
would you spend your last few hours in some stupid contest? Probably
not.

I'd have to think you had higher priorities like being
with family, close friends, your sposue, etc.

BTW, doctors can't tell you exactly how much time you have left
if you have a terminal illness.

David Johnston

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Oct 31, 2009, 11:13:23 PM10/31/09
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I know. That was sarcasm.

Hunter

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Nov 3, 2009, 6:13:42 PM11/3/09
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In article <no-3CB999.20...@news.east.cox.net>,
n...@spam.fried says...
> In article <tl5ne5ptpgcq8g1gh...@4ax.com>,
> Nobody was forced to enter the contest, so I don't see the grounds for a
> lawsuit. Everybody knows, or should know, that overhydration can kill.
---
I think if you take a poll most people would not know that. Hell, I
don't think many people know and understand that if you drink too
much alcohol you can die of alcohol poisoning. Die by drinking too
much water? I don't think most people know that. I doubt the
contestant knew that and I doubt the radio shock jocks knew that. I
think most people belive water could be fatal to you is if you drown,
you fall into it when it is boiling, or if it is freezing or you slip
and fall on an ice sheet and bang your head or if it is in the form
of a block of ice the size of your head and it is dropped on your
head. Maybe briny salt water if you drink it you die.

But fresh water out of the tap? No. I think the shock jock ignored
the warnings because they simply couldn't believe it.
--
----->Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

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