OT Tonight's GOOD WIFE
Jeff Gersten
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I was also confused. It was obvious he was only sending the black kids,
but somehow they discarded that and then came up with the bribery
motive. You were not the only one left in the dark as to why race no
longer was the determinate factor in his sentencing.
I thought it was the worst episode so far in the series. No Noth and the
lack of a logical explanation of why racism was discarded as a motive
made it so.
The best part was the way they skewered politicians and their back room
deals and total lack of any ethics.
David / Amicus
was sending kids to a private jail where s/he got kickbacks.
Vince
> I seem to remember one of the L&Os had a story about a corrupt judge who
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So what else is new?
I think I recall that one.
Anyway shows rip one another off all the time.
i.e.
"Stargate SGI" the crew becomes slaves on another planet.
Star Trek Voyager the next season, a like story.
Both "Matt Houston" & Starkey & Hunch had "Play Missy for Me/Fatal
Attraction" BTW both shows were from the same producers.
The above is bad enough, it ticks me off when the shows do this one
after the other.
"Sanctuary" a few weeks back a flash forward where Helen is in a world
of Zombies (something like "Last man on Earth")the next week on
Smallville Lois is in a like situation.
Another point a lot of shows this season are having pilots that start
off with one of the character in danger and then they flash back
to a few days ago, a few hrs ago etc.
Matter of fact a SVU rerun on USA the other day was the one where Eliot
is undercover and its starts off his being shot.
Ray O'Hara
"David / Amicus" <Ami...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>I seem to remember one of the L&Os had a story about a corrupt judge who
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yes, it's a RFTH story based on the case in Pa.
David Johnston
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>David / Amicus wrote:
>> I seem to remember one of the L&Os had a story about a corrupt judge who
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They don't have to. That's a real case. Given the lead up between
script and showing, they would have both been inspired by the same
newspaper articles.
David Johnston
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>>My question is why was it only the black kids,
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Not really. He probably really was a born-agan bigot after the
attack. But that isn't an indictable offense and taking kickbacks is.
Porter Smith
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After reviewing the stats they found that it was the kids from poor,
single family homes (who are more likely to be black). Those families are
less likely to appeal the sentence and/or call the mayor to complain.
David / Amicus
surname!
Michael Black
> I seem to remember one of the L&Os had a story about a corrupt judge who
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Yes, the episode of SVU where a teenage victim was sent up the river
for child pornography, having sent a naked picture of herself to someone.
I can't even remember the initial story, and then somehow the picture
came up and the judge sentenced her for that. Then they uncover that
she had a connection to the private facility, and was getting kickbacks.
Michael
Michael Black
Yes, the racism wasn't the cause of the act, it was the filtering system.
If he'd simply been sentencing black kids to longer periods, then it
would be racism.
But, his motive was to get the kickback. How he selected "candidates"
was irrelevant to that crime. That he chose black teenagers was "merely"
icing on the cake for him, he got the kickback and got to practice his
racism.
Michael
Hunter
JeffG...@webtv.net says...
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> I was also confused. It was obvious he was only sending the black kids,
> but somehow they discarded that and then came up with the bribery
> motive. You were not the only one left in the dark as to why race no
> longer was the determinate factor in his sentencing.
Cary Agos, "Stat boy" as the pretty Kalinda Sharma called him when he
didn't jump to conclusions about Judge Henry Baxter's so called
racism, found out that race WASN'T a determining factor as to who got
harsher sentencing when he controlled for family structure, namely
single parent and two parent families and age, namely under fourteen
and over fourteen. He used a larger sample, put both categories in
two separate piles. The two piles *remained interracial* as opposed
to near total segregated by race when race was only taken into
account in the sentencing in Alicia's original small sample (her
piles had a couple of black kids that got probation in the mostly
white 'probation/hand slap' pile, while a couple of white kids got
big sentences in the mostly black "up the river" pile). That means
while he was handing out harsher sentencing in June 2008, it wasn't
by race. Both races were given harsher sentencing on an equal level
Judge Baxter were taking advantage of kids on an equal basis since
the attack on his wife, which it turned out wasn't a rape.
He started sentencing harsher to so they would stay in the system
longer so he could send them to the Paul Grave "Academy" private jail
that handled the overflow from Cook County. The Judge could get his
kick back from them to pay off the bookie that attacked his wife
because the Judge wasn't paying up on his gambling debts. That is why
they dropped the charges. If he and his wife pursued it then the
story of his gambling would had came out.
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See above. The scene in which the determination of that the judge
wasn't a racist after all was shown about 42 minutes in (including
commercials), right after the scene Peter Florrik's mom Jackie turn
the hose on the wife of a convict that was sent away by her son.
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Kinda surprised that a person with an WASP-py English last name like
"Lockhart" still mattered to a lot of Irish Americans in Chicago,
enough to sway their electoral choice. But I guess a lot of old
timers from old middle age 55-65) and senior citizens (65+) do vote
for judge and comptroller and such while 18 year olds, young adults
(19-35) and young middle age (36-45?) generally ignore those
elections (for the record middle-middle age is 46-54 I think). I know
their are people who still take the old most Italian people are
involved with the Mafia prejudice seriously and heavens knows there
is still Anti-Semitism, but I though the "war" between WASP and Irish
Catholics was over. I guess there are still some Irish that are a bit
peeved over Northern Ireland and the British still being there.
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----->Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Jeff Gersten
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But, he had to realize that in the case in front of him, the youngster
though poor and from a single family home had a high powered law firm
behind him. He really could not afford to have his scheme unravel. If
your economic motive is the true motive behind which defendants he picks
for harsh treatment, this should have been a case to avoid. After all,
this was not an overworked public defender in front of him.
Porter Smith
@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net:
Yes, but he knew she would be unlikely to risk her job by challenging her
boss's pal.
People in power often think they can do whatever they want, And when the
sustem is rigged to protect them, they pretty much can.
Hunter
et...@ncf.ca says...
Actually it wasn't racism in any form. Cary found that his sending
the kids to the "Academy" was race neutral when he controlled for
family structure and age. The motivation was to pay off gambling
debts and of course he and his wife couldn't prosecute for her attack
in June 2008 because that would had led up to his gambling problem
being found out.
Hunter
my_por...@yahoo.com says...
No it wasn't. He was race neutral in sending those kids to the
private jail when Cary controlled for age and family structure. In
the two piles he made there was a very discernable racial mix in
both, in other words there were almost equal number of white and
black kids in both piles.
The guy used kids to get out from under his gambling debts but he
wasn't a racist.