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Philip Akin on Warehouse 13; sword used in home defense

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Morty

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Sep 16, 2009, 2:19:52 AM9/16/09
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Philip Akin (Charlie DeSalvo from Highlander: the series) had a minor
role on tonight's Warehouse 13 (1x11, "Nevermore"). He plays the
principal. Not likely to be a recurring role. He looks the same, but
oddly, sounded different; I checked the credits to make sure it really
was him.

Michael Hogan from Battlestar also appears, and there is a good chance
he'll be back at some point. It's odd to see him without the eye
patch.

In different news, a student from Hopkins killed a burgular with a
samurai sword:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/15/samurai.sword.killing/

- Morty

Jerri

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Sep 17, 2009, 1:28:50 PM9/17/09
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Morty wrote:

> In different news, a student from Hopkins killed a burgular with a
> samurai sword:
>
>  http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/15/samurai.sword.killing/
>

We're not supposed to encourage this sort of thing, are we?
Jerri

Michael Koblic

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Sep 17, 2009, 9:19:20 PM9/17/09
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Having your arm chopped off pretty much discourages burglary. Or anything
else for that matter. A practical application of Sharia if there ever was
one.
Some of those who know about these things recommend sword as an optimal
weapon for home defense. I must go and buy one. Well, another one...

--
Michael Koblic
Campbell River, BC


AMc

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Sep 17, 2009, 9:54:11 PM9/17/09
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Morty posted:

> In different news, a student from Hopkins killed a burgular with a
> samurai sword:
>
> �http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/15/samurai.sword.killing/

Well, whaddya know. A co-worker told me about this story this
afternoon. I responded that, at one time, it would've definitely been
fodder for conversation on this newsgroup but that as deserted as it
has been of late, I wondered whether anyone would post.

Nice to see there's a little life in the old newsgroup yet. :-)


Alicia

Jimbo

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Sep 18, 2009, 4:10:33 PM9/18/09
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I'm not sure you'd get away with it in Canada. Seems from that
article that it was a bit excessive anyway. Also said they might yet
charge the kid. You're better off with a gun. Just make sure you
don't reload. Then you can't claim it was done in the heat of the
moment.

Jimbo

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Sep 18, 2009, 4:11:10 PM9/18/09
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The victim wasn't exactly Mr. Rogers. I wouldn't shed too many tears
for him.

Michael Koblic

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Sep 18, 2009, 9:18:37 PM9/18/09
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Jimbo wrote:
> On Sep 17, 9:19 pm, "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@uniserve.com> wrote:
>> Jerri wrote:
>>> Morty wrote:
>>
>>>> In different news, a student from Hopkins killed a burgular with a
>>>> samurai sword:
>>
>>>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/15/samurai.sword.killing/
>>
>>> We're not supposed to encourage this sort of thing, are we?
>>
>> Having your arm chopped off pretty much discourages burglary. Or
>> anything else for that matter. A practical application of Sharia if
>> there ever was one.
>> Some of those who know about these things recommend sword as an
>> optimal weapon for home defense. I must go and buy one. Well,
>> another one...

> I'm not sure you'd get away with it in Canada.

Depends on the definition of "it".

Seems from that
> article that it was a bit excessive anyway. Also said they might yet
> charge the kid. You're better off with a gun.

Yes, provided you can retrieve it from a "locked container not readily
broken into" and load it with ammunition "stored separately from the
firearm", all in time to use it.

Just make sure you
> don't reload. Then you can't claim it was done in the heat of the
> moment.

That is the beauty of a sword - no reloading! Although if presented with a
donner kebab instead of the burglar the officer's eyebrows might elevate
just a tad. Some judges have a weird idea of what constitutes a "reasonable
force".

I suppose taking a head would not be it either...

none Morty Abzug

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Sep 19, 2009, 3:25:00 PM9/19/09
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In article <bc675a3d-4254-4838...@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
"Jimbo " <james_j...@hotmail.com> spake thusly:

> I'm not sure you'd get away with it in Canada. Seems from that
> article that it was a bit excessive anyway. Also said they might
> yet charge the kid. You're better off with a gun.

This was in Maryland. In MD, self-defense is not always an excuse,
whether with gun or with sword.

- Morty

none Morty Abzug

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Sep 19, 2009, 3:28:29 PM9/19/09
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In article <e8106bc2-701a-4784...@d4g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
"Jerri " <jerri....@gmail.com> spake thusly:

> We're not supposed to encourage this sort of thing, are we?

I don't know about *killing* the guy, but using swords for home
defense? Sure. When my wife wakes me up in the middle of the night
and tells me she heard a noise from the first floor, I typically take
along a sword. Typically a knock-off katana, as a matter of fact --
wouldn't want to do any damage to one of the antiques.

[The noise is, of course, typically the cat.]

- Morty

crquack

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Sep 19, 2009, 9:53:57 PM9/19/09
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On Sep 19, 12:28 pm, morty@red-sonja.(none) (Morty Abzug) wrote:
> In article <e8106bc2-701a-4784-8067-ba0eab34d...@d4g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
> "Jerri " <jerri.lapo...@gmail.com> spake thusly:

>
> > We're not supposed to encourage this sort of thing, are we?
>
> I don't know about *killing* the guy, but using swords for home
> defense?  Sure.  When my wife wakes me up in the middle of the night
> and tells me she heard a noise from the first floor, I typically take
> along a sword.  Typically a knock-off katana, as a matter of fact --
> wouldn't want to do any damage to one of the antiques.
>
> [The noise is, of course, typically the cat.]
>

Getting a cat with a katana can be tricky. Also quite messy.

Also the use of katana can be quite awkward depending on what kind of
home you live in. I find it is too long (as is the 1796 British
cavalry sabre BTW).

A wakizashi or a pinuti are less likely get caught on the door jamb.
The 1917 naval cutlass is also fine but heavy and horribly balanced.
Oddly enough an assegai (with a short shaft) is quite handy - allows
one-handed or two handed use and can be used over quite a range of
distances.

Of course if the burglar is on a horse a whole different approach is
required...

MK

Jerri

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Sep 20, 2009, 4:41:05 PM9/20/09
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On Sep 19, 2:28 pm, morty@red-sonja.(none) (Morty Abzug) wrote:

> I don't know about *killing* the guy, but using swords for home
> defense?  Sure.  When my wife wakes me up in the middle of the night
> and tells me she heard a noise from the first floor, I typically take
> along a sword.  Typically a knock-off katana, as a matter of fact --
> wouldn't want to do any damage to one of the antiques.

I won a rather heavy stage sword that now hangs [autographed by a
bunch of sword masters] in the spare bedroom. It has neither point nor
edge to speak of. But if I could lift the darned thing, I could
certainly beat a foul miscreant about the head and shoulders with it.
Or I could throw it. I also have some rolls of quarters in case I ever
get to the laundromat someday. After some initial barking, I fear my
dogs would all welcome a foul miscreant into the house and offer him
some slippers, a snifter of brandy, and the remote control for the
tv. As long as he kept petting them in turns, he'd be as safe as that
dead mouse was on the kitchen floor this morning. They took turns
barking at him, but never so much as picked him up to carry him
around, much less savaged him.
Jerri

bc

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Sep 20, 2009, 1:38:39 PM9/20/09
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:53:57 -0700 (PDT), crquack
<mko...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Of course if the burglar is on a horse a whole different approach is
>required...

Good point. I shall have to keep that in mind.
--
Bruce Davidson Cantor, CPA, JD
Admitted in Colorado

Christine from BC

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Sep 20, 2009, 9:46:46 PM9/20/09
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Jerri wrote.....

As long as he kept petting them in turns, he'd be as safe as that
>dead mouse was on the kitchen floor this morning. They took turns
>barking at him, but never so much as picked him up to carry him
>around, much less savaged him.
>Jerri

Then whe would have been in prime condition to slow roast or braise!!! A
breakfast treat for all.

Christine from BC - I know, Jerri, but I just couldn't resist it......

Christine from BC

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Sep 20, 2009, 9:50:55 PM9/20/09
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In article <457a83be-9198-4af0...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
mko...@gmail.com says...

>
>Of course if the burglar is on a horse a whole different approach is
>required...
>
>MK

I knew I shouldn't have let him watch a re-run of Taras Bulba on TV - not
every burglar is a Cossack.

"He unhorsed a Cossack" - good grief have I inadvertently made a Highlander
quote and got totally "on topic"?

Christine from BC

Jimbo

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Sep 21, 2009, 9:47:12 AM9/21/09
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On Sep 18, 9:18 pm, "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> Jimbo wrote:
> > On Sep 17, 9:19 pm, "Michael Koblic" <mkob...@uniserve.com> wrote:
> >> Jerri wrote:
> >>> Morty wrote:
>
> >>>> In different news, a student from Hopkins killed a burgular with a
> >>>> samurai sword:
>
> >>>>http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/15/samurai.sword.killing/
>
> >>> We're not supposed to encourage this sort of thing, are we?
>
> >> Having your arm chopped off pretty much discourages burglary. Or
> >> anything else for that matter. A practical application of Sharia if
> >> there ever was one.
> >> Some of those who know about these things recommend sword as an
> >> optimal weapon for home defense. I must go and buy one. Well,
> >> another one...
> > I'm not sure you'd get away with it in Canada.
>
> Depends on the definition of "it".

Well, you know, call me crazy but I don't see how I could be any
clearer on my definition of "it" here.

>   Seems from that
>
> > article that it was a bit excessive anyway.  Also said they might yet
> > charge the kid.  You're better off with a gun.
>
> Yes, provided you can retrieve it from a "locked container not readily
> broken into" and load it with ammunition "stored separately from the
> firearm", all in time to use it.

Here I am talking about in the U.S. In this same situation, the
student was probably better off owning a gun. In Canada even if you
get it out of that locked container, etc., you're probably still in
trouble if you kill or even wound the guy. Could be wrong about that,
but I don't think so.

>   Just make sure you
>
> > don't reload.  Then you can't claim it was done in the heat of the
> > moment.
>
> That is the beauty of a sword - no reloading! Although if presented with a
> donner kebab instead of the burglar the officer's eyebrows might elevate
> just a tad. Some judges have a weird idea of what constitutes a "reasonable
> force".

No reloading, but what makes me think it was excessive is that he
didn't stop with cutting the man's hand off. That would have been
enough to eliminate him as a threat, and would also I think have
likely ended his career as a burglar.

> I suppose taking a head would not be it either...

If he had taken the head, I think a lot of us would have shit our
pants. Especially if the other students started talking about a guy
glowing in the dark, and the police commenting on electrical damage to
the garage. The article might have contained a line similar to:
"also left a man's decapitated body lying on the floor next to his own
severed head. The head which in this case *has* a name."

> -

Jimbo

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Sep 21, 2009, 9:48:37 AM9/21/09
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On Sep 20, 1:38 pm, bc <cant...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:53:57 -0700 (PDT), crquack
>
> <mkob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Of course if the burglar is on a horse a whole different approach is
> >required...
>
> Good point. I shall have to keep that in mind.
> --
> Bruce Davidson Cantor, CPA, JD
> Admitted in Colorado

Anyone who sleeps naked should also study the Methos Method of Naked
Swordfighting.

bc

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Sep 21, 2009, 1:01:16 PM9/21/09
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Got to be VERY careful where you swing that thing.

Grey

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Sep 22, 2009, 7:19:08 AM9/22/09
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Is there an instructional video available?

Grey

Susan

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Sep 22, 2009, 5:57:38 PM9/22/09
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That sound you hear is all the Methosians on the group thunking. ;-)

Susan
(remember me?)


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