Project Nipple is Press Your Luck!
Adam Kendall
Fremantle has produced two pilots of a new version of Press Your Luck
for Game Show
Network----one with Todd Newton as emcee and the other with Peter
Tomarken. No one can talk on the record about the shows and a number of
decisions are yet to be made concerning them.
I'm really excited about this!
Adam Kendall
Minneapolis, Minnesota
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FaceTheUnashuflr
>
>Fremantle has produced two pilots of a new version of Press Your Luck
>for Game Show
>Network----one with Todd Newton as emcee and the other with Peter
>Tomarken
SB just had to post this, didn't he :) But I agree that Todd Newton should get
another show. Wonder if Fremantle would consider him for Feud next season if
Louie gets shoved off.
Brandon Brooks
> This is from GSCC. Mandel was right, either host will work just fine:
>
> Fremantle has produced two pilots of a new version of Press Your Luck
> for Game Show
> Network----one with Todd Newton as emcee and the other with Peter
> Tomarken. No one can talk on the record about the shows and a number of
> decisions are yet to be made concerning them.
>
> I'm really excited about this!
You're a little late...
Brandon Brooks
Kevin Nagle
> SB just had to post this, didn't he :) But I agree that Todd Newton should
get
> another show. Wonder if Fremantle would consider him for Feud next season
if
> Louie gets shoved off.
I agree that Todd should get another show, but if there's a PYL revival,
there's only one man that I'd like to see host it, and his name ain't
Newton. PYL is Peter's show, and I think he still has it in him.
-Kevin Nagle
Greg Diener
>
> Fremantle has produced two pilots of a new version of Press Your Luck
> for Game Show
> Network----one with Todd Newton as emcee and the other with Peter
> Tomarken. No one can talk on the record about the shows and a number of
> decisions are yet to be made concerning them.
>
> I'm really excited about this!
>
Wanna bet $10 who Beverly wants to host NPYL?
Greg
Proud Uncle of Carole Ann Since 1/16/02, 10:31 AM (EST)
>
> Fremantle has produced two pilots of a new version of Press Your Luck
> for Game Show
> Network----one with Todd Newton as emcee and the other with Peter
> Tomarken. No one can talk on the record about the shows and a number of
> decisions are yet to be made concerning them.
>
> I'm really excited about this!
Me too...and judging by what Mandel had to say, I think this could very well
get back Freemantle the respect they lost following CS2K1...and then some!
Personally, while I'd love to see Petie back doing "his" game, I think Todd
could do a pretty good job, as well...what do y'all think?
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Jason
> there's only one man that I'd like to see host it, and his name ain't
> Newton. PYL is Peter's show, and I think he still has it in him.
Yes, I totally agree. Why should they not go with the original (and
much better) host if he's available? Besides, it would look rather
cheap if Todd was the host of most of the GSN originals on the air.
-Jason
Kevin Nagle
> Personally, while I'd love to see Petie back doing "his" game, I think
Todd
> could do a pretty good job, as well...what do y'all think?
As I said before, I'd like to see Peter host this. I *do* think that Todd
could do one hell of a job with it, just as Ray Combs did for Feud, but I
still would rather see Peter back for PYL, and give Todd another equally
good show...
-Kevin Nagle
Seth Thrasher
Agreed. It just wouldn't be the same.
Another semi-important question. Who will announce.
Dan Berger
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess Burton Richardson.
-Dan Berger
Brett A. Pasternack
I agree. And I just don't see Newton as being the right guy for PYL even
if Tomarken was unavailable or whatever. Not that Newton isn't good at
what he does; PYL just doesn't seem to fit his style. IMHO.
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Brad Garrett? :-)
Just $10, Greg? I'd put every cent in my bank account on it!
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Dan Berger
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fan he is, I doubt this show's format is going to be messed up.
In my opinion I also think that deep down inside, he wasn't too thrilled
about last year's revival of Card Sharks.
-Dan Berger
Jamey Greek
make a show just like the original!
Jamey Greek
>
> -Kevin Nagle
brettley
(me). Even if it was to air late night on PAX, I would be happy.
Brett Odom
MSTieScott
> get back Freemantle the respect they lost following CS2K1...and then some!
I'm still uneasy. From Mandel's page about the 25 best game shows in
his opinion, on "Card Sharks:"
"I can't really talk too much about the current version since I helped
with developing it, but we made sure in doing so that we modernized
the show without losing the heart of the game: the simple high/low
format. Pat Bullard really does an excellent job of moving the show
along with his dry, quick sense of humor and Tami Anderson is one of
the best hostesses to come in a long time. Add to that the new
potential payoff of over $50,000 and you have a pretty decent revival
of a proven classic."
And here's what he says about Nipple:
"The general consensus is that the show is distinct from the original,
BUT there are a lot of nods both in the set design and the game itself
to give it a real connection with original. The game is essentially
the same. There weresome additional little bonuses here and there
which we've thrown in, but they all fit organically into the game
without disrupting the feel of the original show."
Given what we know about the recent "Card Sharks" revival, I have
great reservations about this. I'd love this to be the first really
good revival Fremantle has made. But reading these similar statements,
I'm bracing myself for the worst.
--
Scott Robinson
(if e-mailing a reply, please replace "my-deja" with "hotmail")
"The set design"? You mean the fact that the cards were on the same
side of the stage?
General Blitz
>with developing it, but we made sure in doing so that we modernized
>the show without losing the heart of the game: the simple high/low
>format
Excuse? This from Mandel? He helped create that piece of shit? And defended
it?
Mandel just dropped a lot in my eyes, as is anyone who could say that they
didn't lose "the heart of the format" which was MORE than the high/low.
Mandel: Say it isn't so, if you still think that show should have continued,
you sir are on that list with Fleming and Tauber.
Chuck
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William S. Davis
Thrasher) wrote:
>Another semi-important question. Who will announce.
Well, I hear Todd Newton is available! :)
Anyone who watches E! for any length of time has been subjected to Mr.
Newton's voiceovers...
Bill Davis
alphabetics
Any reason why Rod can't do it? He did double-duty on TPIR and PYL after
he inherited Johnny O.'s announce booth.
Zach Horan
Rod could do it if GSN/Fremantle asked him, but I have a feeling it'll be
Burton RIchardson who gets the gig if it's Syndicated, Randy West would be a
likely candidate if it's for GSN.
Gene Platt
inflated his asking price nicely, whereas Burton is often still considered
(unfairly) a bit of a journeyman
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Zach Horan
>inflated his asking price nicely, whereas Burton is often still considered
>(unfairly) a bit of a journeyman
Once PYL ended, Rod never did another show as full time announcer other than
TPIR. He did sub for a couple of weeks in 1994 on COmbs Feud for Gene Wood.
ITSBRY
defended
> it?
>
> Mandel just dropped a lot in my eyes, as is anyone who could say that they
> didn't lose "the heart of the format" which was MORE than the high/low.
At the risk of being flogged...the more I watched Card Sharks 2k, the more I
liked it. (OK, I only saw two episodes!) I'm not saying it was "good", but
it wasn't as horrible as everyone makes it out to be. I think a neat set
and a jazzy theme could have done wonders for the show. I thought it was
kind of exciting to watch a hand get passed back and forth between players,
but the clips were the killer IMO.
I agree that it all comes down to the adage, "if it ain't broke...". I hope
Fremantle has finally figured out that changing the format drastically is
not working...if they don't, they're clueless. Of the four revivals they've
done, it's interesting that the only one to "stick" is the one that's almost
completely true to the original format.
Having said that, I must say that crappy formats aren't the only things to
blame here. I think the game show genre is waning again after the fall in
popularity of WWTBAM. The key demographics would rather watch Jerry
Springer and Fear Factor as sad as that is! I think even "good" game shows
are going to have a tough time. I'm crossing my fingers for "Pyramid", but
I have a bad feeling it won't last long.
ITSBRY
its...@juno.com
Zach Horan
>done, it's interesting that the only one to "stick" is the one that's almost
>completely true to the original format.
Actually, To Tell the Truth was/is even more true to the original format than
Feud is. The "ask the audience" to pick the real person on TTTT was used for a
time in the 60s.
Robb Baum
I think it was also on the Mike Wallace hosted pilot for the show.
Joel Cairo
-Joel Cairo
John Isles, iv
>I'm still uneasy. From Mandel's page about the 25 best game shows in his
>opinion, on "Card Sharks:"
>"...Pat Bullard really does an excellent job of moving the show along with his
>dry, quick sense of humor..."
The Sahara Desert seems like an oasis in comparison to Bullard's dry sense
of humor. Bullard's antics practically rubbed off on me as annoying.
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Robair
coming, didn't you? It's almost like Fremantle wasn't even
CONSIDERING Tomarken!
By the way, if you want a print copy of this story, Steve
will send it to you...on a moebius strip.
--Robair
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Matt Ottinger
"Robair" <rwma...@earthlink.net> wrote ...
> Judging from the recent lead story on the site...you saw it
> coming, didn't you? It's almost like Fremantle wasn't even
> CONSIDERING Tomarken!
I think this is one of those times when you really can't trust what Beverly
has to say. His fondness for Newton has been well-documented, much better
documented than the THREE unnamed "sources" he used for that story. What's
more, his "well-placed sources" may have their own agenda in leaking the
suggestion that Newton will get the nod over Tomarken. My understanding is
that most truly well-placed professionals have been told specifically not to
even acknowledge Steve's site.
--Matt
otti...@acd.net
Mark Jeffries
> >"I can't really talk too much about the current version since I helped
> >with developing it, but we made sure in doing so that we modernized
> >the show without losing the heart of the game: the simple high/low
> >format
>
> Excuse? This from Mandel? He helped create that piece of shit? And defended
> it?
>
> Mandel just dropped a lot in my eyes, as is anyone who could say that they
> didn't lose "the heart of the format" which was MORE than the high/low.
>
> Mandel: Say it isn't so, if you still think that show should have continued,
> you sir are on that list with Fleming and Tauber.
In Mandel's defense, I have the feeling that that his bosses fully
know that he has a web site and that he's doing a weblog touching on
what he does for a living on it. Under the circumstances, I can't
imagine him being able to be too critical of anything work-related.
Also, one of the people who developed "CS2001" is (last I heard)
technically still a Fremantle employee, even though he was working for
another packager for a brief period. And considering how tightly-knit
the biz is (and in particular, I would imagine, the game show biz is,
since there are far fewer people doing it now than there used to be),
it's not particularly advantageous to be critical of someone or
sompelace you could be working for in another situation.
Robair
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>
> "Robair" <rwma...@earthlink.net> wrote ...
> > Judging from the recent lead story on the site...you saw it
> > coming, didn't you? It's almost like Fremantle wasn't even
> > CONSIDERING Tomarken!
>
> I think this is one of those times when you really can't trust what
Beverly
> has to say. His fondness for Newton has been well-documented, much better
> documented than the THREE unnamed "sources" he used for that story.
What's
> more, his "well-placed sources" may have their own agenda in leaking the
> suggestion that Newton will get the nod over Tomarken. My understanding
is
> that most truly well-placed professionals have been told specifically not
to
> even acknowledge Steve's site.
Y'know, do you think for one second that GSN would have gone to
all that trouble to woo back Peter Tomarken under their wing,
have him produce a brand new promo, and just basically present
the fact that it would be Tomarken back on GSN with an all-new PYL
if it was going to be ordained that Pete would lose the gig to
Todd Newton in the first place? GSN wants Tomarken -- it's his
baby, really, he can still turn it out, and his energy and enthusiasm
for this show is what made it work in the first place...I guess Newton
winds up being nothing more than a control factor here, who will
get more chances to shine with a new GSN original (he'd probably
get "Telepathy" at this point)...but there's something telling me that
the PYL fans want the show back -- with Tomarken.
--Robair
General Blitz
>In Mandel's defense, I have the feeling that that his bosses fully
>know that he has a web site and that he's doing a weblog touching on
>what he does for a living on it.
It's like being a Radio DJ, you get on the air, tout the song as a hit, talk it
up. But in reality you'd like to hurl the CD into the Atlantic Ocean.
The Program Director of the rock station in my building uses this tactic: He'll
just mention, Song, Band, and nothing else and segway right into the next song.
(He especially can't stand Creed.) So Mandel didn't have to write how "Great"
it is. He could have made it a very general reference, unless that how he
really feels, in which case, he doesn't know how to revive CS properly.
Just my three cents.
Dave Mackey
> he inherited Johnny O.'s announce booth.
I read Rod's interview on the Price Is Right site on CBS, and
apparently he is still quite weak from his colon cancer surgery. I
doubt he'd want to take another show at this time.
Dave
unMUNGED!
> another show. Wonder if Fremantle would consider him for Feud next season if
> Louie gets shoved off.
At the risk of being called a Tomarkenite, it does certainly seem like a
big waste to even consider Peter if they're not going to put him in, and
with all due respect to Todd, it just wouldn't be the same without Peter
at the helm.
Todd does certainly deserve to host something decent, and I hope they kick
Louie to the curb and put Todd in as host of the Feud. (That would get
him in a G-T frame of mind should he be considered to succeed Bob Barker
down the road!)
One more fringe benefit of keeping Peter as host: if NPYL does turn out
to be "a piece of shit," he'll let you know the day it gets pulled off the
air. :)
David E. Nelson
announcer.
Any objections?
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David E. Nelson
> As I said before, I'd like to see Peter host this. I *do* think that Todd
> could do one hell of a job with it, just as Ray Combs did for Feud, but I
> still would rather see Peter back for PYL, and give Todd another equally
> good show...
Yeah, Second Chance!
Patrick Patterson
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I realize your arguement about this probably being largely a Fremantle Media
decision, but why would they have BOTH Tomarken and Newton host a pilot if
(in your opinions) they already had their mind made up when they had
Tomarken do the commercial for GSN. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to have
only had Tomarken host a pilot?
Cody Horton
comments:
Host-
Peter Tomarken all the way!! Press Your Luck is really not Press Your
Luck without the wit and energy of Tomarken. Todd Newton does need to
get himself a better game than Hollywood Showdown, I agree there, and
if there is absolutely NO WAY at all that Tomarken can host I would
want Newton to take over. I can picture him being an OK emcee, but no
one will ever be able to fill Tomarken's shoes.
Announcer-
Once again, I've got to go back to the original. Rod Roddy is the
ultimate announcer for that show. The show takes on a completely
differnent feel when you don't hear Roddy's voice saying "From
Television City in Hollywood...it's time to PRESS YOUR LUCK!!" I
definitely do agree with you though that one person that does have
about as much energy as Roddy is Burton Richardson. I know he is
swamped announcing...um...ABOUT EVERY GAME FREMANTLE DOES... I think
he can manage. Hearing his voice at the beginning of each show would
be bearable. But just listening to Randy West every day would
eventually get annoying...
$$ Ammounts-
You guys are on a roll! Stick w/ the original $$ values. They should
be able to work with $5000 + ONE SPIN as their highest $$, assuming
they dont set up a board that will give them another Michael Larsen...
They should leave lots of room for creativity in new bonus spaces.
Those kinds of things always keep the audiences attention.
WHAMMIES-
The Whammies are the most important factor of PYL. If they take out
the whammy animations they better kiss their show GOODBYE. There is NO
WAY IN HELL that show would stay on the air if they did away with
those little animations. Even though they arent much they still are
one of the biggest parts of the show. And about the suggestion for 3-D
Whammy animations--I know this is 2002 but, CAN YOU PICTURE WHAT A 3-D
WHAMMY WOULD LOOK LIKE?? I shudder to think... I think the simple
drawn cartoon whammies would give a more original effect.
MUSIC-
I think the old electronic theme song should DEFINITELY STAY. I mean,
come on, what game show theme is catchier than PYL? If they are
against that idea, I think they should either keep the song but jazz
it up, or go back to the theme from the pilot. It reflects the theme
known throughout the 80s.
...WELL I guess the basis of my entire analysis of NPYL is
ORIGINALITY. The show has to be based almost entirely on the
orignal...with updated sets and music perhaps...i always thought more
neon in the set would be cool...but however the new PYL comes out I'm
sure, whether it bites the big one or not, true PYL fans will watch
adoringly. I know I will.
- Cody J. Horton