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Nov 26, 2001, 6:45:28 PM11/26/01
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Now available from www.play247.com
£31.99
Go get em!

Michael Pretlove

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Nov 26, 2001, 8:58:44 PM11/26/01
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"Link" <bill....@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Now available from www.play247.com
> £31.99
> Go get em!

Thats a pretty good price for all 3 of them... i thought it was £31.99 each!

Mike
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Dr Zoidberg

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Nov 27, 2001, 1:11:28 PM11/27/01
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"Michael Pretlove" <Martain...@wanker.com> wrote in message
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> "Link" <bill....@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:VstM7.28850$SJ3.289890@NewsReader...
> > Now available from www.play247.com
> > £31.99
> > Go get em!
>
> Thats a pretty good price for all 3 of them... i thought it was £31.99
each!


When the S1 simpsons came out recently on dvd play had the R2 at 30 quid and
teh R1 at 18.
Given the difference and the fact that I have them all on video and PC I'll
wait to see if an R1 set appears any time soon.

--
Alex

"Bloody hell , Sodding , Blimey , Shagging , Knickers , Bollocks"
"Oh god , I'm english"


Mirror Spock

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Nov 27, 2001, 2:11:59 PM11/27/01
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:45:28 -0800, "Link" <bill....@microsoft.com>
went upon the mount and spoke thus:

>Now available from www.play247.com
>£31.99
>Go get em!
>
>

Is there any place else that has these available for pre-order?
Specifically a place that would deliver to the United States.

* Robinson

luther miller

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Nov 27, 2001, 10:07:59 PM11/27/01
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I think Amazon.de has the German ones. I assume they include English, but
maybe not- its not listed! They are also R2. Of course, I prefer the
packaging and stuff to be in english.. I'm not even sure amazon.de ships to
the US, but I know amazon.com used to ship to Germany when I lived there.
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005TN9B

There must be some UK retailers that will carry it and ship to the US. Maybe
Blackstar.co.uk?

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luther miller

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Nov 27, 2001, 10:17:42 PM11/27/01
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blackstar does it have it listed for Jan 28th:
http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000067414

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Moon

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Nov 28, 2001, 5:34:20 AM11/28/01
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In article <1006884935.8707.1@iapetus>,
drzoi...@blueyonderNOOOOOOO.co.uk says...

>
> When the S1 simpsons came out recently on dvd play had the R2 at 30 quid and
> teh R1 at 18.
> Given the difference and the fact that I have them all on video and PC I'll
> wait to see if an R1 set appears any time soon.

Yeah, the European Comission is investigating this. They asked the film
industry why the heck an European DVD is so much more expensive
especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1 versions.

As long as paying customers are treated like that by a greedy industry
they don't have to be astonished about us copying ourselves to death!

-< Moon >-

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Michael Pretlove

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Nov 28, 2001, 5:48:53 AM11/28/01
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> > There must be some UK retailers that will carry it and ship to the US.
> Maybe
> > Blackstar.co.uk?

on this topic, does anyone know of any Australian online retailers that
would be good to keep an eye on for the release of local Futurama DVD's?

Martin Schmidt

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Nov 28, 2001, 6:12:51 AM11/28/01
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Moon <Mo...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:

> especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1 versions.

Buying RC1 DVDs is completely legal. It's just not legal to sell them in
Germany. It's not against the law to either bring RC1 DVDs from other
countries to Germany or to order them from somewhere outside Germany.
And even the fact that selling RC1 DVDs in Germany is illegal, is not a
fact. The GVU ("Gesellschaft zur Verfolgung von Urheberrechtsverletzungen")
says so, but many shops sued themselves and in every single case (according
to my information) the court turned it down because of insignificance.
Smaller shops are still/again selling RC1 DVDs.


Moon

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Nov 28, 2001, 12:14:20 PM11/28/01
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In article <9u2gn3$5qrrn$1...@ID-3854.news.dfncis.de>, Bd...@gmx.de says...
Gosh, did you really need the quotes? Ok, once again:

They asked the film industry why the heck an European DVD is so much

more expensive especially as we are "prohibited" from buying RC1
versions.

The point is that the fucking industry does not want us customers to buy
and watch RC1 DVDs when we live elsewhere and vice versa. We Europeans
are supposed to buy RC2 DVDs

- later than US releases
- twice as expensive as US releases (not to mention posting and
packaging)
- missing tons of extras
- having tons of ridiculous user prohibitions

I WANT to spend my money on films but I'm not allowed to do it the way I
want. Thus the industry has a problem cause I don't spend my money at
all (except for CD-R's of course).

Moon

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Nov 28, 2001, 12:15:51 PM11/28/01
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In article <Ah3N7.37230$li3.3...@ozemail.com.au>,
Martain...@wanker.com says...

> > > There must be some UK retailers that will carry it and ship to the US.
> > Maybe
> > > Blackstar.co.uk?
>
> on this topic, does anyone know of any Australian online retailers that
> would be good to keep an eye on for the release of local Futurama DVD's?

http://www.dvdplanet.com.au/index2.htm
http://www.ezydvd.com.au/

Martin Schmidt

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Nov 28, 2001, 12:43:42 PM11/28/01
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Moon <Mo...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:

> Gosh, did you really need the quotes? Ok, once again:

Gee, don't you know what you write?

OK, once again: you wrote "especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1
versions". And that's wrong. Plain and simple.

> - later than US releases

So what? We get the films later in theatres (because of the dubbing), so we
get them later on DVD. And in case of Star Wars episode 1 we got the DVD at
the same time, despite we had the film 3 months later in theatres.

> - twice as expensive as US releases (not to mention posting
> and packaging)

Twice as expensive? Definitely more expensive, but not even close to twice
as much.

> - missing tons of extras

That isn't the case anymore. Most new DVDs have the same extras. In case of
"Any given Sunday" (just as example) we even got a 2 DVD edition, while the
US only got 1 DVD with less extras. Now they also have the double DVD, but
AFAIK only available in the Oliver Stone box.

> - having tons of ridiculous user prohibitions

Only in Europe? (Just asking.)

> I WANT to spend my money on films but I'm not allowed to do it the way I
> want. Thus the industry has a problem cause I don't spend my money at
> all (except for CD-R's of course).

I want American maple syrup for the same price as European maple syrup. But
no, the motherfucking stores sell the American stuff for much higher prices
than the European bottles. When will the EU fight for maple syrup fans?

What's your problem? You can order RC1 DVDs legally on the internet and you
can buy them in many shops here in Germany. OK, the big stores (WOM, Saturn,
etc) don't have them, but they also don't sell NTSC video cassettes, do
they?


Michael Pretlove

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Nov 28, 2001, 9:49:06 PM11/28/01
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> > on this topic, does anyone know of any Australian online retailers that
> > would be good to keep an eye on for the release of local Futurama DVD's?
>
> http://www.dvdplanet.com.au/index2.htm
> http://www.ezydvd.com.au/

thanks moon.

damn... none of them have it listed in the 'comming soon' sections...

what was the release date for Aussie dvd's???

Moon

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Nov 29, 2001, 3:32:00 AM11/29/01
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In article <9u37js$5slf3$1...@ID-3854.news.dfncis.de>, Bd...@gmx.de says...

> Moon <Mo...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:
>
> > Gosh, did you really need the quotes? Ok, once again:
>
> Gee, don't you know what you write?
>
> OK, once again: you wrote "especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1
> versions". And that's wrong. Plain and simple.

Obviously noone ever told you the meaning of putting a word in double-
quotes.

> I want American maple syrup for the same price as European maple syrup. But
> no, the motherfucking stores sell the American stuff for much higher prices
> than the European bottles. When will the EU fight for maple syrup fans?

Ridiculous, seems you're one of that guys that do think that prices like
60,- DM for a DVD is justified. The industry loves ya.

Charles Astwood

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Nov 29, 2001, 6:02:26 AM11/29/01
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> >
> > > Gosh, did you really need the quotes? Ok, once again:
> >
> > Gee, don't you know what you write?
> >
> > OK, once again: you wrote "especially as we are prohibited from buying
RC1
> > versions". And that's wrong. Plain and simple.
>
> Obviously noone ever told you the meaning of putting a word in double-
> quotes.
>
> > I want American maple syrup for the same price as European maple syrup.
But
> > no, the motherfucking stores sell the American stuff for much higher
prices
> > than the European bottles. When will the EU fight for maple syrup fans?
>
> Ridiculous, seems you're one of that guys that do think that prices like
> 60,- DM for a DVD is justified. The industry loves ya.
>
> -< Moon >-
>


Isn't another reason that sometimes the distributor for the R1 and R2
versions are sometimes completly different losing them money if people
import the R1 version.
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Martin Schmidt

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Nov 29, 2001, 9:16:22 AM11/29/01
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Moon <Mo...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:

> Ridiculous, seems you're one of that guys that do think that prices like
> 60,- DM for a DVD is justified. The industry loves ya.

You pay 60 DM for a DVD? You definitely don't know much about "DVD
shopping". (I usually don't pay more than 45,- DM for a DVD)


Martin Schmidt

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Nov 29, 2001, 9:22:09 AM11/29/01
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Hundsfurtz <hunds...@NOSPAMlasvegas.com> wrote:

> A simple, logical solution for this would be one single DVD version,
> instead of this nonsense - which is just a scheme to scam more money
> out of the public. I don't see various standards for LP's, cassette
> tapes, CDs and any other media is universal more-or-less.

Duh! LPs, cassettes, tapes and CDs are *audio*. What about the only
comparable media: videos? There are three different standards - PAL, SECAM
and NTSC. Just because some nations were to pride to adapt a working system.
Same nonsense.
Have you ever tried to get NTSC videos in Germany? Very difficult. And when
you find them in a small hidden store, they are more expensive than German
videos (and German videos have - in contrast to RC2 DVDs - no English
language track).

> It's all about the almighty buck, nothing more.

You want that to change? Vote PDS. I do that, because I want a change, but
as long as you don't, you have to live with the power of the "almighty
buck".


Larry

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Nov 30, 2001, 2:26:00 AM11/30/01
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:22:09 +0100, "Martin Schmidt" <Bd...@gmx.de>
wrote:

>
>Duh! LPs, cassettes, tapes and CDs are *audio*. What about the only
>comparable media: videos? There are three different standards - PAL, SECAM
>and NTSC. Just because some nations were to pride to adapt a working system.
>Same nonsense.


There is some technical reasons for the format differences. Electrical
current in North America is 60HZ, whereas Europe uses 50HZ. The early
TV used that frequency as a clock to refresh fields (half screens).
So, European TV would only have 25 full frames per second to North
America's 30. The solution was the PAL system which improves quality.

When the TV systems were first developed, no one predicted VCRs /
DVDs, so no one saw a major advantage to standardizing.

BTW There is actually a fourth standard called MESECAM. I don't what
it is or where it's used, but I did see a VCR that claimed it could
play them. I don't know why there are four formats rather than just
one for each frequency. You may be right about it being pride.
Hopefully, as TV goes fully digital, they will adapt a single
standard.

--Larry


Moon

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Nov 30, 2001, 5:59:11 AM11/30/01
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In article <3c0930b0...@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>,
residen...@bigfoot.com says...

> Hopefully, as TV goes fully digital, they will adapt a single
> standard.

"dream on, skin tube"!

SCNR.

Moon

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Nov 30, 2001, 5:59:10 AM11/30/01
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In article <9u5fvr$6aosb$1...@ID-3854.news.dfncis.de>, Bd...@gmx.de says...

Neither me. Nevertheless 45,- is still too much for a movie (just as is
35,- for a CD)...

Martin Schmidt

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Nov 30, 2001, 7:02:41 AM11/30/01
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Moon <Mo...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:

> Neither me. Nevertheless 45,- is still too much for a movie
> (just as is 35,- for a CD)...

Videos cost 40 DM. And with all the additional stuff on a DVD, 45 DM is a
fair price.


Halo-

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Nov 30, 2001, 2:51:34 PM11/30/01
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:14:20 +0100, Moon <Mo...@Uni-Duisburg.de> wrote:


>Gosh, did you really need the quotes? Ok, once again:
>
>They asked the film industry why the heck an European DVD is so much
>more expensive especially as we are "prohibited" from buying RC1
>versions.
>
>The point is that the fucking industry does not want us customers to buy
>and watch RC1 DVDs when we live elsewhere and vice versa. We Europeans
>are supposed to buy RC2 DVDs
>
>- later than US releases

Not always, as seen recently by the Family Guy and Futurama DVD's.

>- twice as expensive as US releases (not to mention posting and
> packaging)

I'll give you that, but we have the choice whether to buy R2 DVD's or not,
afterall? If it's that unreasonable then you don't buy it.

>- missing tons of extras

See above. Also, usually they do actually come with Full Extra's or at the very
least the equavilent to R4 extra's.

>- having tons of ridiculous user prohibitions

Do you mean BBFC cuts? You are going to have that problem when you buy UK
video's and DVD's. Not a problem usually for DVD as companies are less likely to
be bothered about a higher age rating (Look at Family Guy again).

>I WANT to spend my money on films but I'm not allowed to do it the way I
>want. Thus the industry has a problem cause I don't spend my money at
>all (except for CD-R's of course).

Or, on the other hand, you don't feel like supporting the people who created the
show, and these so-called "opinions" are actually an excuse for pirating movies.
If you are going to do it, don't try and make excuses.
--
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# URL: www.pocketheaven.com
# Annoying Thing No. 8: Army Men games.

Michael Herzog

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Nov 30, 2001, 7:37:40 PM11/30/01
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"Halo-" <Hal...@Pocketheaven.com> schrieb

> >- having tons of ridiculous user prohibitions
>
> Do you mean BBFC cuts? You are going to have that problem when you buy UK
> video's and DVD's. Not a problem usually for DVD as companies are less
likely to
> be bothered about a higher age rating (Look at Family Guy again).

He means user prohibitions set by the authors of the DVD. An example are
subtitles, that are not hardcoded but can't be disabled because the authors
want you to watch them. Or five-minute copyright warnings you can't skip
because of user prohibitions.


Martin Schmidt

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Dec 1, 2001, 3:05:11 AM12/1/01
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Halo- <Hal...@Pocketheaven.com> wrote:

> Or, on the other hand, you don't feel like supporting the people who
> created the show, and these so-called "opinions" are actually an
> excuse for pirating movies. If you are going to do it, don't try and
> make excuses.

ACK

A friend of mine always says "Who has the right to say, how much music is
worth? Nobody. That's why I only copy CDs." It's always interesting to hear
all the excuses for actually stealing things.

"Sir, I think nobody has the right to say, how much the work of an Asian
child is worth. That's why I'm now stealing these Nike shoes." ;-)


Moon

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Dec 1, 2001, 7:27:09 PM12/1/01
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In article <9ua2vl$749ls$1...@ID-3854.news.dfncis.de>, Bd...@gmx.de says...

> Halo- <Hal...@Pocketheaven.com> wrote:
>
> > Or, on the other hand, you don't feel like supporting the people who
> > created the show, and these so-called "opinions" are actually an
> > excuse for pirating movies. If you are going to do it, don't try and
> > make excuses.
>
> ACK
>
> A friend of mine always says "Who has the right to say, how much music is
> worth? Nobody. That's why I only copy CDs." It's always interesting to hear
> all the excuses for actually stealing things.

Ridiculous! Fortunately I am the sovereign and can decide wether to buy
it or not. If the industry wants too much money for a DVD I just don't
buy it. Obviously a lot of ppl think the prices are justified (tell me
the difference between US and European DVDs result from localization and
shipping <- LOL) which I do consider as an lame excuse for their
obedience to greedy authorities. But that's only me...

Corey Barnes

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Dec 10, 2001, 7:59:09 PM12/10/01
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> Yeah, the European Comission is investigating this. They asked the film
> industry why the heck an European DVD is so much more expensive
> especially as we are prohibited from buying RC1 versions.
>
> As long as paying customers are treated like that by a greedy industry
> they don't have to be astonished about us copying ourselves to death!
>
> -< Moon >-

Oh, be happy there IS a Futurama DVD over there, AND a Family Guy DVD.
There's no Futurama DVD here, or a Family Guy DVD. FOX has announced
zero plans for either series.

Those are just 2 of the series FOX is slowly trying to drive into
cancellation.

Mirror Spock

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Dec 11, 2001, 9:45:36 AM12/11/01
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On 10 Dec 2001 16:59:09 -0800, omniw...@ppgworld.com (Corey Barnes)

went upon the mount and spoke thus:

>> Yeah, the European Comission is investigating this. They asked the film

They must not be trying all that hard with Family Guy, considering
it's been on again, off again since '99 or so.

* Robinson

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