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Starword

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Jun 24, 2008, 12:38:34 PM6/24/08
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Sometimes in the morning while I have coffee, I watch Frasier on Lifetime.
They are now in the 10th season, at the time Frasier starts getting close to
Julia, the b**ch at the radio station played by Felicity Huffman. I've been
noticing how all her clothes are fitted really tight, as though one size
small, and this is keeping in mind that Felicity is quite slim. She wears
skirts that I'm amazed she can walk in, but when she wears a blouse, that's
when the tightness is really noticeable. Her blouses are so tight on her, it
reminds me of my blouses when I gain some weight and can't fit into my
previous size anymore. But I force it on anyway, and the buttons straining
in the holes to pop out.

Why would the wardrobe people do this (unless it was Felicity's choice)? She
has such a trim figure, she could wear her rightful size and her slimness
would be quite apparent. I really find it unattractive. Did anyone else
notice this?

Nat
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manitou

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Jun 24, 2008, 8:32:26 PM6/24/08
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Nat,

I remember noting her ultra-slim body and form fitting clothes first
time round.

Typically ladies' suit tops (and more) are pinned at the back to
appear as tight looking as possible, and sometimes hasty camerawork
and editing shows the evidence. On one of the later eps of "Eli
Stone", the new series starring Jonny Lee Miller, the young woman
playing his assistant was cited as a witness in a bizarre law case,
and there were two 'behind' shots of her in the witness box revealing
the last-minute pin-stitch job to cinch her weight to the max.

Charles

Dorcie

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Jun 25, 2008, 1:59:33 AM6/25/08
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I noticed this as well. It's sad because there have been many
instances on television where a beautiful woman is shown wearing
clothes that are so tight they look terrible. Marg Helgenberger is
another actress, on CSI. I don't watch the show anymore, but when I
did I noticed that after the first couple of seasons her clothes kept
getting tighter and tighter. By the seventh season , she had gotten to
the point where she looked like a hooker in a few episodes. This is
almost tragic because she is very, very beautiful, especially for her
age.

On a similar topic, I found this site interesting:

http://www.iwanexstudio.com/

Go there, and then click on "portfolio" at the top of the screen.

The worst part of those, in my opinion, is that so many of these
people are absolutely gorgeous, but they do not fit the image of what
is considered perfect today. I would kill to look like some of them
actually do.

manitou

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Jun 25, 2008, 9:56:25 AM6/25/08
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On Jun 25, 1:59 am, Dorcie <moviemeiste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I noticed this as well. It's sad because there have been many
> instances on television where a beautiful woman is shown wearing
> clothes that are so tight they look terrible. Marg Helgenberger is
> another actress, on CSI. I don't watch the show anymore, but when I
> did I noticed that after the first couple of seasons her clothes kept
> getting tighter and tighter. By the seventh season , she had gotten to
> the point where she looked like a hooker in a few episodes. This is
> almost tragic because she is very, very beautiful, especially for her
> age.
>
> On a similar topic, I found this site interesting:
>
> http://www.iwanexstudio.com/
>
> Go there, and then click on "portfolio" at the top of the screen.
>
> The worst part of those, in my opinion, is that so many of these
> people are absolutely gorgeous, but they do not fit the image of what
> is considered perfect today. I would kill to look like some of them
> actually do.

Dorcie,

Most of the 'retouched' photos in the portfolio simply have brightness
levels pushed to eliminatre skin flaws etc. In fact, it's a lot
easier (and more professional) to get the makeup and lighting right
*before* the camera starts clicking away.

I'm reminded slightly of the before and after issues of Architectural
DIgest. Invariably the "before" pix are badly lit and badly composed,
so of course they look terrible. It would be more interesting IMO if
the magazine showed decent professional-quality pix for both sides of
the fence.

In truth, very few people have perfect faces (or bodies), though with
a bit of cultivation it's amazing what can be accomplished for many,
though there's usually a tradeoff of some kind. I've long thought
even the best nose jobs somehow looked suspicious, even when they were
improvements, eg Peter O'Toole, Sting and many more. There's a young
Canadian actor, Gianpaolo Venuta, who does a fair amount of TV work
(and theatre in Montreal) who had an obvious nose job about six years
ago --- his profile went _literally_ from Barbra Streisand to Jude
Law!

Charles

Dorcie

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Jun 25, 2008, 4:41:19 PM6/25/08
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The brightness is worrisome because it is such a distortion of
reality, but I can at least understand that. Women use makeup to try
and achieve the same thing. There is one picture, Justin Timberlake's,
where you can see that all they did was adjust the brightness. Though,
I have to say some of those people have faces so bright they look like
ethereal creatures.

For the male actors, there is very little change. Most are to remove
blemishes and a little extra weight. There is one picture where an
actor's shoulder is raised, which I think is weird. But most of the
women, especially the full-body shots, have been completely changed.
This upsets me because I think all of these women are absolutely
beautiful, except for Cameron Diaz, who looks dagerously anorexic.
Most of their faces, hips, stomachs, necks, shoulders, arms, and
thighs have been altered. They even added weight to Diaz so she
doesn't look so unhealthy.

I wonder what this does to these actors, knowing that they are not
perfect enough to have their pictures taken without computer touchups.
Psychologically, that can't be pretty. On the flip side, all of these
celebrities are potrayed as looking like these pictures in real life.
Now, I think most people are aware that brightness is adjusted to
remove wrinkles, blemishes and unflattering shadows. But I don't think
everyone realizes that even their bodies are fake. I can't imagine
what it must be like for American children growing up today being
inundated with fake representations of what is considered beautiful,
something none of them will ever be able to achieve.


Dorcie

Starword

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Jun 26, 2008, 12:38:21 PM6/26/08
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"Dorcie" wrote:
> I noticed this as well. It's sad because there have been many
> instances on television where a beautiful woman is shown wearing
> clothes that are so tight they look terrible.

This is how it was for Felicity Huffman IMO. She has such a beautiful
figure, all that needs to be done to flatter it to its best advantage is an
outfit that fits her properly.

The "too-tight" blouses and skirts look unflattering. It looks like she
doesn't know how to dress herself. The overly tight blouses in her scenes
give the impression she is just about to split them down the middle in a big
rip. In the ep. today, when Frasier discovers his accountant who is married
is fooling around with Julia, in the scene in which Frasier confronts them
in the accountant's office, Felicity is wearing a black outfit, a top and a
skirt. For once, the top looks pretty good, a v-neck, thin-knit sweater that
fits nicely and flatters her trim figure. But the black skirt is so tight,
it's a wonder she could walk in it. She should've won an Emmy just for that!
I admit the tightness did accentuate her back end particularly well, but
given what an attractive woman she is, I don't see why that's necessary.

abc

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Jul 6, 2008, 9:16:54 PM7/6/08
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Could it be that the producers / writers considered this style of clothes
intentionally and integrated as part of her character on the show? i.e.
flirtatious and uptight? just a thought....very intelligent writing on the
series

Starword

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Jul 10, 2008, 12:11:59 AM7/10/08
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"abc"wrote:

Yes, very intelligent writing, but I don't buy Huffman's tight clothing was
intended to portray some quality in the character's personality. In a couple
of other ep after the one I posted about, I saw how FH's blouses in
different scenes were so tight, her nipples were outlined faintly.

Also noted Daphne's clothes were sometimes pretty tight too. Most
unflatteringly when she was pregnant. As a rule, pregnant women wear clothes
that tend to be loose rather than tight, partly for comfort, but partly not
to call more attention than necessary to the "baby bump". In the ep where
Daphne and Niles think their fabulous cleaning lady is stealing, Daphne has
a shirt on so tight it clings to her every curve, even outlining her "outie
bellybutton" women get in their last months of pregnancy. LOL, sort of a
"below-the-border" version of the nipple outline in Huffman's scenes.

That ep did not do Jane Leeves any favors, that's for sure. She's a
beautiful woman, and so is Felicty Huffman, but no one likes to look like
they are wearing clothes one or two sizes too small.

Paul Hyett

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Jul 10, 2008, 3:55:42 AM7/10/08
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On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 at 23:11:59, Starword <star...@global.net> wrote in
alt.tv.frasier :

>
>That ep did not do Jane Leeves any favors, that's for sure. She's a
>beautiful woman, and so is Felicty Huffman, but no one likes to look like
>they are wearing clothes one or two sizes too small.

Tell that to Pamela Anderson... :)
--
Paul 'Charts Fan' Hyett

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