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Tyler Trafford
> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>
"The Scythe" looks nothing like a scythe.
--
Jim
> Is apparently "The Scythe".
Oh: http://geocities.com/josswhedon_fray/webpage/fray.html
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Tyler Trafford
> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>
>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>
> Oh: http://geocities.com/josswhedon_fray/webpage/fray.html
"Meanwhile Melaka Fray, a professional "grabber" for the underworld of
Haddyn, specifically Gunther the mutant fish, had just done her latest job,
robbing an ancient amulet from the wall safe of a senator."
--
Jim
> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>
Phppt. That's no scythe. If it is
then Death has been using the wrong instrument
for many, many years and as soon as someone points
that out to him, we all get to be immortal.
Scythe:
> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b9b85c$h4e4v$1
> @ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>
>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>
>
> Phppt. That's no scythe. If it is
> then Death has been using the wrong instrument
> for many, many years and as soon as someone points
> that out to him, we all get to be immortal.
Although it would probably piss Death off, and that can't be good...
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Jim
Hey, it's what it's called, not what it is.
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Tyler Trafford
These poor people! Twice now in the past week I've posted a link only
to have their bandwidth exceeded within 15 minutes.
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Tyler Trafford
You monster!
--
Jim
It's my job to get the missiles into the air, where they come down is
none of my business.
--
Tyler Trafford
>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
> Hey, it's what it's called, not what it is.
Ok, so it's the Scythe that looks like an Axe... but isn't.
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Rick S.
Calgary, Alberta
rick...@shaw.ca
No, it's "The Scythe". And it looks (to me) like long stake with a
bladed hand-guard.
In any case, I found this to be interesting:
<quote>
Urkonn on the Final Battle
Urkonn (Fray's guide, a strange goat-demon thingy) takes this
opportunity to fill Mel in on the history of demons, vampires, and the
Slayer. As Urkonn tells her, "There was once on this earth a thing
called magic. There were demons, monsters beyond imagination, most of
them pure evil." Then as humans evolved, most of these demons left this
earth for other dimensions. Others stayed - some lived in seclusion,
some assimilated into human culture, and others infected the humans who
had come to populate the earth...
"It is not known when they first appeared, but the vampires were a
plague.
The elders of several villages met, calling for action.
They invoked the strongest and most dangerous magicks they could summon,
to create a power.
A power that could fight the vampires.
A power that lived... in the body of a girl."
After some intervening action, during which Melaka is injured, Urkonn
continues the history lesson, some of which might be of particular
interest to Buffy fans...
Melaka: Good. Good. Tell me aboud the Slayers while I beed to deff. Dey
made dat first one...
Urkonn: She fought, and died, and was succeeded by another, throughout
time. Always a woman. Always a warrior... They were trained. Sought out
and guided by Watchers, descendants of the shamans who created the First
Slayer.
Melaka: ... Why don't you tell me what happened to the last one?
Urkonn: Because I don't know. It was some hundreds of years ago, in the
twenty-first century. What we do know is this -- there was a battle. A
Slayer, possibly with mystical allies, faced an apocalyptic army of
demons...
...and when it was done, they were all gone. All demons, all magicks,
banished from this earthly dimension.
Melaka: And the Slayer? Did she...
Urkonn: I do not know if she lived. But, the demons being gone, she was
the last to be called. The line continued - there were girls with the
power, but they were never called, never trained. Which may be why you
have no memory of your heritage. The Council of Watchers fell to ruin,
held together only by fanatics and fools. You met your Watcher
yesterday.
Melaka: I did? I didn't!
Urkonn: Did not one come to you, call you the chosen one?
Melaka: Nobody ever called me any oh my god you mean that guy that one
that set himself on fire!
Urkonn: As I said, fanatics.
Melaka: But he set himself on fire!
Urkonn: Centuries of useless, obsessive waiting. Makes a human--
Melaka: He set himself on fire!
Urkonn: Maybe he was cold.
Melaka: Okay, I'm supposed to fight the coming onslaught of lurks and
I'm being taught by a sarcastic goat-thing whose idea of training is
throwing scrap metal at me because the actual good guys all went crazy
waiting for the monsters to come back.
Urkonn: Yes.
Melaka: Just checking.
Urkonn: Do not discount the Watchers completely.
Melaka: Right, 'cause if we need someone to light themselves on fire...
Urkonn: They're insane, I grant. But they were also right.
Fray's Weapon
In issue #6, Fray's guide, Urkonn, gives her a scythe, a mystical weapon
said to have been "for the slayer alone." It is through accepting and
weilding this scythe that Melaka finale accepts her destiny. She is the
chosen one. Urkonn says when he gives it to her:
"It is a weapon. Forged eons ago for the Slayer alone. Lost for
centuries. Carry it, for it is your sword and your scepter. Let it
proclaim you the hero - and the monster - that you will need to be. Make
your war."
</quote>
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Tyler Trafford
So, basically, what you're saying is that it's an axe.
--
Jim
>
> Rick S wrote:
>> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:b9b9ov$h6ol7$2...@ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>>
>>
>>>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>
>>> Hey, it's what it's called, not what it is.
>>
>> Ok, so it's the Scythe that looks like an Axe... but isn't.
>
> No, it's "The Scythe". And it looks (to me) like long stake with a
> bladed hand-guard.
>
> In any case, I found this to be interesting:
>
> <quote>
>
> Urkonn on the Final Battle
>
> Urkonn (Fray's guide, a strange goat-demon thingy) takes this
> opportunity to fill Mel in on the history of demons, vampires, and the
> Slayer. As Urkonn tells her, "There was once on this earth a thing
> called magic. There were demons, monsters beyond imagination, most of
> them pure evil." Then as humans evolved, most of these demons left this
> earth for other dimensions. Others stayed - some lived in seclusion,
> some assimilated into human culture, and others infected the humans who
> had come to populate the earth...
>
What is this from?
Maybe to some Hollywood weanie who has never seen, much less wielded, an
axe.
I say that if she takes a two handed grip on the long poley thing and
swings it, hitting her target with the sharp edge of the flat metally
thing, then it is an axe.
I've read enough.
I've been looking for a source to meet all my scything needs. Thanks Rick!
(Yay!)
May I vomit now?
Thanks, Tyler, this was very interesting.
Cass
> Rick S wrote:
>> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:b9b9ov$h6ol7$2...@ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>>
>>
>>>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>
>>> Hey, it's what it's called, not what it is.
>>
>> Ok, so it's the Scythe that looks like an Axe... but isn't.
>
> No, it's "The Scythe". And it looks (to me) like long stake with a
> bladed hand-guard.
Well, it's shaped like an Axe (and therefore looks like), but it also
looks like it could be used both ways, 'Axe' mode and 'Pointy stake with
hand guard' mode. I think it's a pretty cool tool for a Slayer.
> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b9bcev$h8ovv$1
> @ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>
>> Rick S wrote:
>>> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:b9b9ov$h6ol7$2...@ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>>
>>>> Hey, it's what it's called, not what it is.
>>>
>>> Ok, so it's the Scythe that looks like an Axe... but isn't.
>>
>> No, it's "The Scythe". And it looks (to me) like long stake with a
>> bladed hand-guard.
>
> Well, it's shaped like an Axe (and therefore looks like), but it also
> looks like it could be used both ways, 'Axe' mode and 'Pointy stake with
> hand guard' mode. I think it's a pretty cool tool for a Slayer.
>
I think that firearms would be more efficacious.
Whedon's comic _Fray_. Apparently came out in 2001, I think.
--
Tyler Trafford
I don't even remember that, I skimmed it for the good[1] parts.
[1] whatever
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Tyler Trafford
wooden bullets?
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Tyler Trafford
I think it's supposed to take place in the 26th century.
--
Tyler Trafford
large gauge, limb/head amputating, torso splitting, sawed-off shotgun-
type firearms. You don't need wood if you can blow them to smaller, more
manageable pieces.
And somehow, shooting the smugness off of Caleb's face scripture-warping
seems like it would be extraordinarily satisfying.
It's a little early for that, don't you think?
You make a very good point.
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Tyler Trafford
I should wait until tomorrow then?
--
Tyler Trafford
Okay John, something perhjaps more to your liking:
http://mtnexus.com/SpoilerCoffin/article-0004894.html
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Tyler Trafford
I just watch the show for the lesbian sex scenes. Which reminds me that I
am pissed they didn't bother to elaborate on the shenanigans amongst the
potentials during the time period I am going to call "the big cuddle".
I think it'd be a cool tool for some of my meetings.
So it's true! John is secretly Death!
> (Yay!)
>
I see. Well, here's something else, anyway.
http://mtnexus.com/SpoilerCoffin/article-0004532.html
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Tyler Trafford
Like, duh. As soon as I found out it was (incorrectly) referred to as a
"Scythe" all that stuff was evoked.
I think Buffy is sexier with a broadsword. That stupid axe is going to be
unwieldy.
I think that Faith would be hot with one of these (see 590A1 #51683):
> Is apparently "The Scythe".
I was thinking Soul Edge, myself... (As in the Namco fighting game
series.)
- Will, whose soul still burns
> I think that firearms would be more efficacious.
Firearms run out of ammo. Magic(*) weapons are the way to go, They never
run out.
* Not shown yet, but the Scythe is supposed to have other properties as
well.
> John Iwaniszek <n...@telling.com> wrote in
> news:Xns93748BBF0F...@130.133.1.4:
>
>> I think that firearms would be more efficacious.
>
> Firearms run out of ammo. Magic(*) weapons are the way to go, They never
> run out.
>
> * Not shown yet, but the Scythe is supposed to have other properties as
> well.
>
Axe.
And on TV guns are magic and never run out of ammo either.
Yes, especially that second one.
--
Tyler Trafford
> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>
>> John Iwaniszek wrote:
>>> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>>
>>>> John Iwaniszek wrote:
>>>>> Jim Larson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, basically, what you're saying is that it's an axe.
>>>>>
>>>>> May I vomit now?
>>>>
>>>> Okay John, something perhjaps more to your liking:
>>>>
>>>> http://mtnexus.com/SpoilerCoffin/article-0004894.html
>>>
>>> I just watch the show for the lesbian sex scenes. Which reminds me
>>> that I am pissed they didn't bother to elaborate on the shenanigans
>>> amongst the potentials during the time period I am going to call
>>> "the big cuddle".
>>
>> I see. Well, here's something else, anyway.
>>
>> http://mtnexus.com/SpoilerCoffin/article-0004532.html
>
>
> Like, duh. As soon as I found out it was (incorrectly) referred to as
> a "Scythe" all that stuff was evoked.
>
> I think Buffy is sexier with a broadsword. That stupid axe is going
> to be unwieldy.
Not so much unwieldy as ineffective. It can poke and swipe but it has
no ability to do damage at a distance. You have to get close in to use
the blade which could be dangerous. It would be better to be able to
swipe (at a neck, a hamstring, etc.), surprise and incapcitate with that
and then move in with the stake.
Held as an axe (swipe, swipe, swipe) then turn around and stake seems
a better use.
> I think that Faith would be hot with one of these (see 590A1 #51683):
Faith would be hot with a BB gun.
> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b9b85c$h4e4v$1
> @ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>
> - Will, whose soul still burns
They make medicine for that. Try some Pepcid.
> Bill Crawford <william...@sbcglobal.spam.net> wrote in
> news:Xns93748AE314F66...@151.164.30.42:
>
>> Tyler Trafford <tyler_t...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b9b85c$h4e4v$1
>> @ID-131008.news.dfncis.de:
>>
>
>> - Will, whose soul still burns
>
> They make medicine for that. Try some Pepcid.
>
>
>
Tums is cheaper and OTC
Well, on occassion. They are more magic in that they can put
20 clips worth of bullets into 1 clip. Some amazing storage
capability there.
Someone also needs to inform the wrestler "The Rock" that he needs to
change his name since he is not actually a rock.
--
Tyler Trafford
I agree. (What are we talking about again?)
I haven't really been paying attention.
Very nice weather here today. God bless springtime and the sunbathing
it inspires...
--
Tyler Trafford
It is a purty day here too. It finally warmed up enough so that the epoxy
on the hull of my boat would cure.
Secretly?
--
Beau
In the words of Ghandi.....Eat a candy bar out of my ass.
Is?
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Tyler Trafford
Not to be a dork or anything, but the "axe" which is also called a "scythe"
is actually a halberd.
http://members.aol.com/dargolyt/TheForge/halberb.htm
Neener, neener, neener...
The turkey?
--
Jim
Hmmm interesting, there are similarities, but the 'Scythe' is held
differently than these since it has a hand hold where the blade is and
the shaft isn't as long as on these either. Not sure I'd say they were
in the same category.
Fearsome, is it not?
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Tyler Trafford
It's a halberd if there's a point on the axe end. The point seems to be on
the other end.
--
Jim
Nope. It doesn't look the same and it isn't used the same. Sorry, not
halberb.
There's no such thing as a halberB. It either is or isn't a halberD.
--
Jim
Axe.
...and you shall receive.
--
Jim
I would say "Axe", but that would be repetitious.
It is halberb-like. Probably the thing it is most unlike is a scythe.
You can bet the wankers are picking themselves up off the floor after
shaking off the near-fatal attack of cognitive dissonence brought on by
seeing an ax called "The Scythe". It will be years before any of them
refer to a real axe with the correct terminology. Longer still for
those fleshy, pink-palmed ones who have never even touched one.
"halberd".
Yes - I am tired and the good old dyslexia is making it's appearance.
Worm weenie...
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Jim
There is a farmer over in Pomfret who has one of his hay fields custom
cut by hand - hires Amish farmers who use scythes.
It's pretty neat to watch.
Why yes - yes I am.
Manage to get to techtv yet?
Is it just to torture the Amish?
Actually, they hire out to do this kind of thing. They have a condition
though. You have to provide two meals (depending on when they arrive,
could be breakfast, lunch dinner or a combination) or the ingredients.
They arrive in a couple of busses, hop off and get to work. They usually
are finished with the field in about 10 hours.
It is very interesting to watch. You could put a laser level on the cut
field it's that even. All the hay is cut long and lies in perfect rows.
It is a very nifty thing. I'll get some pictures this summer.
Shut up! <mutter> <grumble>
--
Jim
> It is halberb-like. Probably the thing it is most unlike is a scythe.
>
> You can bet the wankers are picking themselves up off the floor after
> shaking off the near-fatal attack of cognitive dissonence brought on
> by seeing an ax called "The Scythe". It will be years before any of
> them refer to a real axe with the correct terminology. Longer still
> for those fleshy, pink-palmed ones who have never even touched one.
I had no idea this meant that much to you.
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Tyler Trafford
I just saw an opportunity to ride some wankers. Yee haw!
I thought they were walk'n funny.
--
Tyler Trafford
It's because of where they keep their time pieces.
("walk'in". get it? <snicker>)
> Is apparently "The Scythe".
FYI...I'm viewing this thread with much disdain.
--
RR
"Too much is ALWAYS better than not enough."
http://www.subgenius.com/
Okay Ke.. er, Ross.
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Tyler Trafford
:)
--
Tyler Trafford
> It is a halberb.
You better ask Jim about that.
> "Rural Knight" <halfwav...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:b9c60e$hu6ne$1...@ID-36512.news.dfncis.de:
>
>> It is a halberb.
>
> You better ask Jim about that.
>
Axe.
>> Axe.
>
> ...and you shall receive.
Or maybe he's just make an axe of himself.
>
> There's no such thing as a halberB. It either is or isn't a halberD.
It isn't.
> Jim Larson <larso...@earthlink.net> wrote in
> news:Xns9374A9D628A3A3v...@130.133.1.4:
>
>>
>> There's no such thing as a halberB. It either is or isn't a halberD.
>
> It isn't.
>
Correct. It is an axe.
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Jim
Yay!
(?)
>>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>>
>>> FYI...I'm viewing this thread with much disdain.
>>
>> Okay Ke.. er, Ross.
>
> :)
What can I say? The guy rubs off. Like fungus.
> Tyler Trafford wrote:
>
>>>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>>>
>>>> FYI...I'm viewing this thread with much disdain.
>>>
>>> Okay Ke.. er, Ross.
>>
>> :)
>
> What can I say? The guy rubs off. Like fungus.
He was going to say Kermit, right? Right?!?
--
Jim
>>>>>> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI...I'm viewing this thread with much disdain.
>>>>
>>>> Okay Ke.. er, Ross.
>>>
>>> :)
>>
>> What can I say? The guy rubs off. Like fungus.
>
> He was going to say Kermit, right? Right?!?
Kermit is back home where he belongs. I hope. He's not *technically* a
Sesame Street character, right?
An axe doesn't have a pointed wood thing on the end.
It's a halberd.
Which, now that I think about it, is a kind of an axe.
Sort of.
Which end are you talking about?
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Tyler Trafford
Not the axe end, obviously.
> Rural Knight wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rick S" <rick...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9374A3C454D...@24.71.223.159...
>>> "Rural Knight" <halfwav...@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>> news:b9buki$catn6$1...@ID-36512.news.dfncis.de:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > "John Iwaniszek" <n...@telling.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:Xns9374838899...@130.133.1.4...
>>> >> Jim Larson wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Tyler Trafford wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Is apparently "The Scythe".
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "The Scythe" looks nothing like a scythe.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Maybe to some Hollywood weanie who has never seen, much less
>>> >> wielded, an axe.
>>> >>
>>> >> I say that if she takes a two handed grip on the long poley thing
>>> >> and swings it, hitting her target with the sharp edge of the flat
>>> >> metally thing, then it is an axe.
>>> >
>>> > Not to be a dork or anything, but the "axe" which is also called a
>>> > "scythe" is actually a halberd.
>>> >
>>> > http://members.aol.com/dargolyt/TheForge/halberb.htm
>>> >
>>> > Neener, neener, neener...
>>>
>>> Hmmm interesting, there are similarities, but the 'Scythe' is held
>>> differently than these since it has a hand hold where the blade is
>>> and the shaft isn't as long as on these either. Not sure I'd say
>>> they were in the same category.
>>
>> It is a halberb.
>>
>>
>>
>
> It's a halberd if there's a point on the axe end. The point seems to
> be on the other end.
>
I missed the point.
It's on the top of your head.
BBAAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAAAA!!!!!
Get it - top of your head?
BBBAAWWWWAaaahhhaa..........................
Ahem...
Never mind.
It could be a pizza too, but it's not.
mmmmmmmmysticalvampirefightingpizzammmmmmmm
--
Jim
I'd just like to point out that "Mystical Vampire Fighting Pizza"
would be a good name for an anime series. Thank you.
Cap.
--
"I am a citizen of the moment, I've built my white picket fence around
'the now', with a commanding view of 'the soon to be.' Does it really
matter? Does it really anti-matter?" - The Tick
Operation: Nerdwatch - http://www.nerdwatch.com
What about "Mystsical Vampire, Fighting Pizza"?
--
Jim
> Captain Nerd wrote:
>
>> I'd just like to point out that "Mystical Vampire Fighting Pizza"
>> would be a good name for an anime series. Thank you.
>
> What about "Mystsical Vampire, Fighting Pizza"?
>
Ignoring the obvious spelling error: when you consider the natural martial
skills of your average vampire, a pizza would certainly not be much of a
challenge. That sort of takes the suspense out of the (apparent) premise
of your scenario's title.
I am suitably chastened...and now I'm off to sell the concept to Fox and make
millions.
--
Jim