Hi, Marie. Welcome. Off and on for about 34 years. I was three years
old when I saw my first episode. What part of the country are you
from? Pacific NW here. We have people here from all over the U.S. and
Canada. We've had a few from other countries like France and the
Netherlands, too, over the years. Yeah, it would have been neat to see
Shane. He's cute as far as I'm concerned.
S*Babykins
hello to Marie as well.
I'm new-ish to daytime soaps. My wife got me hooked on Days about 4
or so years ago, during the Salem Serial killer -imprisioned on the
Island storyline. After that we moved on to the ABC soaps. We're not
quite as enthralled with the Days storylines these days, though better
than a couple of years ago.
But for me, it's the characters and occasionally the actors that
portray them. Even when the story's seem to... suck... I still like
the actors. They seem to transcend the soap... not always, not
routinely. But enough.
Having said that, I will confess that as a 12 or 13 year old, I did
run home from school to see. . . .
"Dark Shadows", back in the late '60s.
Oberon
Hi Marie and welcome. It's always nice to have some new blood in our
group.
I live in South Florida and I've been watching since 1969, uh, about
36 years. My mom used to watch it (I looked down my nose at people
who watched soaps except for old ladies like my mom). When she'd
leave for her Senior Citizens club she'd tell me to watch the last 15
minutes for her and tell her what happened. Well, of course I got
hooked.
Now I'm so addicted I watch every day without fail, good or bad.
Unlike Oberon, I'm really enjoying the show lately and think it has
improved greatly from the last 10 years or so.
Bonbon
I've been not watching it for the past 12 years now. I hate it. I think it's
an abomination...an affront to decency...and a scourge on the entertainment
landscape. Drake Hogestyn should be drawn and quartered; that's how bad of
an actor he is.
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Icebreaker
"Celie, you has my sympathy. Ain't many women allow they husband's ho to lay
up in they house."
I've been watching Days since Roman met Doc. Yep, I am a Wayne
Northrup fan. I like the old school style stories. The action and
mystery stuff. Favorite character on it now would probably be Tony,
though work has kept me from seeing much of Days in over a year.
Welcome to the group....
I live in Mississippi and I watched DOOL for about 3 years back in the 70's
then started back about 20 years ago.
Brenda
"Marie" <Tony-St...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3961-47C...@storefull-3158.bay.webtv.net...
To harrass people here...
Just like Eleanor Roosevelt said, Suzee, Nobody has the power to make
you feel inferior unless you *LET* them. Therefore, if you sense that
you've been "harassed" by Icebreaker, it honestly says a whole lot
more about you than it does about him. How on Earth does merely
disagreeing with you about whether or not a show is good equate to
"harassing" you? Please. Get a grip, Suzee. Seriously. You really need
to take a chill pill and begin to understand that just because people
don't agree with you, it doesn't mean they hate you or are evil
harassers. Pick yourself up by the boot straps already, grow a spine
and get over it.
The world would be a very mundane place if everybody just lied to save
face and simply smiled pleasantly with pursed lips and agreed with
everyone. If that were the case, how would we ever vote for a
President? It would be impossible. The candidates would NEVER have a
different stance on anything! Would we just vote based on their
clothes? Based on their smile and dimples (in Hillary's case)? Based
on the unique looking mole near their nose in Obama's case? Would a
strong jawline in McCain's case somehow make him the most appropriate
choice?
You live in a uniquely idealistic world, Suzee, if you think people
who merely disagree with you, but never threaten you in the least or
set out to hurt or harm you are "harassing" you. Very idealistic
indeed. What are you going to do one day when you actually *ARE*
harassed, God forbid? You'll probably completely freak and absolutely
lose it in front of at least fifty other people, so I sincerely wish
you luck ahead of time. You're gonna' need it...
S*Babykins
To offer an opposing view point, Cindi. When the writer's craft is
shot *THAT* much to hell, both sides need to be talking. Take for
example what they did with Rolfe's characther on today's episode. My
God, Cindi..... Never in a million years would that happen in real
life. There's gotta' be a voice of reason out there. You ought to be
thankful in my opinion. I was ashamed that they did that. It was also
shamefully pathetic how Morgan STOOD UP out of her seat so much during
her interview and Tony still gave her the job. It's things like this
that need to be discussed.
S*Babykins
It's just that the two of you disagree in such a disagreeable way. I
have no problem with people who disagree with me in a civil manner.
> It's just that the two of you disagree in such a disagreeable way. I
> have no problem with people who disagree with me in a civil manner.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
The mere concept of a differing viewpoint is sometimes threatening to
have to hear or deal with. It's unfortunate that you view it that way.
For a person who's comfortable in their own skin, like Icebreaker or
myself it is refreshing and eye opening to either agree fully, agree
slightly or disagree...even vehemently. You ought to learn to not take
stuff so personally, Suzee.
S*Babykins
I don't as much as you think I do. Or do you just like to hurl accusations?
It looked to me like Tony was getting ready to throw her on the desk and
mount her.
> To harrass people here...
Look at the post below, people.
>>> I've been not watching it for the past 12 years now. I hate it. I think
>>> it's an abomination...an affront to decency...and a scourge on the
>>> entertainment landscape. Drake Hogestyn should be drawn and quartered;
>>> that's how bad of an actor he is.
Do you see me disparaging anyone? I"m stating a personal opinion of the
show and nowhere in the post is there an offensive or personal word directed
towards anyone in the group.
Cindi's question reminds me of a point that was made in the 1997 bio-pic of
Howard Stern called "Private Parts". In the film, the manager of the NBC
radio station gets some ratings reports from one of his employees that
seemed somewhat contradictory: people who claimed to love Stern's show were
averaging 45 minutes of listening per day, while people who stated that they
did not like Stern and hated his show averaged 80 minutes of listening per
day. In other words, people who hated the show were more inclined to tune in
and listen to what Stern said than Stern's own self-professed fans. I
suspect some of Rush Limbaughs viewers are the same way.
I don't watch the show. I hate it. I hate all soaps. Why do I come here? To
criticize the show and the general state of television. I also rail against
Hollywood in rec.arts.tv and alt.gossip.celebrities. I also own the 6-film
Ed Wood Collectors Edition of his truly horrible, awful movies. I loved
Grindhouse because the movies were intentionally bad. Hollywood Video is
going out of business in Atlanta, and they're selling their titles for 5$
(everything must go). I cleaned up on 12 movies that I would not normally
buy at full price; I'm talking Leviathan, Lifeforce, Dumb and
Dumberer.....not every film or television show has to have adequate acting
or directing or great special effects to be compelling. Anyone ever seen
Anna Nicole Smith's last film, ILLEGAL ALIENS? That was one of the worst
films ever made...in the entire history and future of filmmaking. Like
DrOOL, it was a trainwreck you couldn't take your eyes away from.
I admire ugliness and imperfection in its rawest forms. Suzee should feel
flattered, because I have a suspicion that she's a 3-bagger (one bag for
her, one bag for her boyfriend/husband, and one bag for the poor son of a
bitch that may be peeping in the windown and stumble upon Suzee bumping
uglies). Suzee was so ugly as a child that her mom had to tie a pork chop
around her neck just to get the dog to play with her.
You see, Suzee brought this upon herself. No one was talking about her, or
to her. She's bitter. She's angry at the world. She's got domestic issues.
All of her boyfriends have wiped their feet on her like a doormat. A few
have even beaten her (and though I don't condone domestic violence, I can
see why they'd hit her; hell, if Ghandi had been married to her he probably
would've thrown a few punches her way by now). She's an instigator around
her. She makes unprovoked personal attacks. And now she's trying to wreak
havoc upon this newsgroup.
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> It's just that the two of you disagree in such a disagreeable way. I have
> no problem with people who disagree with me in a civil manner.
No, you just have a problem with people who don't acknowledge you. You're
not just desperate for my attention; you're desperate for ANY male attention
that you can get. Okay babe, you win. Send me a picture of yourself and
we'll take it from there. I'll be your boyfriend (for a while), so quit
begging.
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Your personal opinions usually wind up harrassing people.
I have a boyfriend and several men who do like and pay attention to me.
Not interested.
Yeah, Drake Hogestyn....
But really, if you don't disparage people, how do you explain the words
you use to title your posts?
Whoa, score a BIG one for Suzee! :o)
Bonbon
>> Do you see me disparaging anyone?
>
> Yeah, Drake Hogestyn....
First of all, I was referring to *anyone on the newsgroup*
Secondly, Drake Hogestyn isn't vertebrate; his dragging knuckles, coupled
with his low-sloping forehead, lack of intelligence, and increased body hair
makes him more simian than human.
> But really, if you don't disparage people, how do you explain the words
> you use to title your posts?
God, you really are this dense aren't you? It's not an act. I don't attack
people with disparaging remarks until after they've attacked me.
Still need all that man-attention, don't you? Still can't live without me,
can you? You need a bad-boy in your life, eh? Well, send me an email with
pix to: gravitys_...@yahoo.com. Seriously, I'll look over your email
and give it some consideration. As long as you're not a total bowser....
> Whoa, score a BIG one for Suzee! :o)
Ah yes...Mother Bonnicott....a beacon of light, hope....a voice of
reason...a champion of intellect...a real Saint. Always taking the high
road, and never missing an opportunity to lead by example with her dignity,
humility, respect, and maturity.
> I have a boyfriend and several men who do like and pay attention to me.
You're lying. You're a liar. This directly contradicts what you said just a
few weeks ago. And if you did, I'm sure your "boyfriend" wouldn't appreciate
the "several men" who do "pay attention" to you.
You know, I pretty much skipped that entire thread where Spangles talked
about your interesting sex talk in those porno newsgroups, but I'm thinking
now that I might revisit. I don't usually like to play Freud or armchair
psychologist, but you're a piece of work Suzee.
> Not interested.
Yes you are. And just like Richard Marx, I'll be right here waiting for you
> I have a boyfriend and several men who do like and pay attention to me.
> Not interested.
He wasn't talking about stuffed animals. He meant real people. Your
Snoopy and Woodstock, your Garfield, your Opus from Bloom County, your
Winnie The Pooh, your Piglet, and your Paddington who sit on a shelf
across from the bed and greet you each morning with their hand and
machine sewn smiles don't count even though they are "male" and "pay
attention to you". Nice try, but no dice.
S*Babykins
No, it's not necessarily aknowledge, Ice, it's validate. We don't
validate her point of view, give her a head nod and a pat on the back,
respond with a frequency of "ITA!!!" posts to make her feel like she's
got a good point and knows what she's talking about, so now we're "not
civil" and we're "negative" and "disagreeble".
We've noticed that she's here. We've addressed and aknowledged her,
Ice, we just don't lick her boots and act like her dependable dog that
she can always rely on, so she's pouting. We don't make Suzee feel
like she's got anything important to say. We don't compliment and
reinforce her with encouragement. She's the type of person where if
you're sorry enough for her, you tow her along. She's not a leader of
the pack. Therefore, her personality type is pretty much foreign to
you and to me. She's a "latcher on". She's a needy person who sucks
others dry if they keep her around long enough.
She needs to be reminded that she's in another person's corner. She's
not comfortable enough standing on her own. If she had anything
interesting, intelligent, important or spoken with reasonably sound
judgment to say in the first place she would not be in this boat.
Nobody's winding her up to get her to this thoroughly unenthralled and
mundane state of being, she's just bland and whiney to begin with.
S*Babykins
Interesting sex talk? LOL! It wasn't interesting at all. It was
pathetic and lame reading, but it's a good litmus test at any rate. It
shows where her mind's at. It's in the gutter, but in an "I wish I was
a bad girl" type of way. Everyone knows that Suzee doesn't have the
guts to put on a corset or stockings with seams up the back, she just
likes to go online to these dopey groups and pretend that she's some
kind of dominator babe who shouts out orders to men who grovel at her
feet.
That's the most interesting part of this whole thing. She plays like
she's all whiney and sensitive here, but elsewhere online she's
playing like she's a Ms. Sexual Know It All and a relationship healer.
THAT is the part that I find haunting and can't seem to wash away.
Anybody who acts ONE way around one group of people and entirely
ANOTHER way around another is a dichotomy that I just have difficulty
letting go of all at once. It's a sign that there's *soooooooo* much
more there than meets the eye. Sure, she's as dopey as a box of rocks,
but what makes her act ONE way over here and ENTIRELY another over
there is indeed a mindbender...
S*Babykins
> It's just that the two of you disagree in such a disagreeable way. I
> have no problem with people who disagree with me in a civil manner.- Hide quoted text -
>
So, people are only allowed to disagree with you mildly and never
challenge or oppose your points of view? Nobody's allowed to take it
to a debate level with you, in other words, they are just merely
supposed to say "Well, I disagree, but we're still cool, right Suzee?
Right? Yup, you're my girl! We're cool."....
My, God, you have some real control issues that I hadn't even fully
realized the capacity of until now. This is real life, Suzee. It's not
practice. You don't get to decide how people are going to address you
and how supposedly gentle or firm their tone is with you. You just
have to take it as it comes like a big girl instead of a little
child.
If you feel sensitive toward somebody's approach, it's high time that
you just turned and walked away instead of BLAMING THEM for how YOU
FEEL, which winds up escalating everything and drawing more attention
to you; which winds up turning things antagonistic, personal and
accusatory. (Which I'm sure is what you're seeking in the first
place....ATTENTION....but you're doing it in a very backwards and
pathetically caustic type of way.) Nobody's going to stand around and
apologize to you for your over sensitivity. It's your baggage, not
theirs.
You can't control another's approach. This isn't preschool. It's grown
up life. If somebody's personality is too strong for you, you have to
just have the good sense to intuitively know inside that it's not
going to do you any good to shine a bad light on them when it's your
OWN feelings that are so fragile. You are what many people I know
would regard as "a project". That's a person who's so much of a waste
of time to try and come to the table and work things out with that the
situation is best left untouched. You are not going to change your
mind or even OPEN it UP to begin with. What makes you feel sensitive
will always be regarded as scary, "Disruptive" and negative to you
because you REFUSE to take ownership of what you could FIX on your
OWN. It's always "their fault", in other words.
You're not the first person I've ever met who is this way and sadly,
you'll not be the last. You've got one hell of a martyr syndrome that
it's up to you to come to terms with. Nobody else can fix it for you.
You EXPECT them, too, but just like a train, they're just going to
keep passing you right on by...
I mean this in the kindest of ways, but really.....FIX this. It's
going to get the better of you. People are people. Nobody's going to
be less dramatic, more tender and gentle than razor edged and
thoughtful, less precise or less colorful in their approach towards
disagreeing with you or challenging your opinions. Quit INTERNALIZING
it. Stop letting your feelings override your discussions with folks,
Suzee. Just take it for what it is! People are different! It's what
makes the world go 'round and keeps things fresh and interesting! It's
100% nothing personal. It's just different people's different
approach. Some are mild and calming, some are driven and passionate.
It's life.
S*Babykins
"Marie" <Tony-St...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3961-47C...@storefull-3158.bay.webtv.net...
> Hi everyone, I never thought to check and see if there was a message
> board for my favorite soap!! I started watching Days when I was 13 and
> almost 30 years later I still love it! I loved it when Soap Net had it
> on everyday at 7 p.m. Now its not on until 11 or 12 midnight so now Im
> back to taping it again. It was really good to see KImberly last week at
> the funeral. I almost forgot about her and Shane its been so long. How
I knew you'd say this.... Blame me all you want, you just show yourself
for what you are with every post you make.
Go ahead, say it: Bonbon and Suzee. I guess Bonbon, realizing that death is
at her doorstop due to her old age, has decided to mentor Suzee in the
tricks of her trade. You know...being bitter, cranky, and constantly
mean-spirited...sitting around the house all day, never getting a job,
eating a quart of Haagen-Dasz, and watching soaps all day while neglecting
her housework and personal appearance. I guess Suzee is going to carry
Bonbon's mantle and legacy as Bonbon passes from this world into the next. A
passing of the broom, you might say.
> will have something to say about my comments.
As long as you don't go personal on anyone posting, you shouldnt' receive
any criticism. I say "shouldn't" because even though I didn't go personal or
attack anyone in the group, Suzee felt it necessary to attack me and accuse
me of harassing people. Suzee needs to see a psychiatrist, because it's not
normal to just jump in and attack a man (or woman) for no good reason. Suzee
likes to interrupt weeks of peace and trainquility with a pointed barb or an
insult. She's desperately craving attention, validation, and
acknowledgement. Usually I don't go for the chicks with low self-esteem, but
I'm kind of feeling charitable today, so I'm willing to take on Suzee's
case.
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Icebreaker
"Boy, you goin' let this ol' nappy-headed girl cuss you out like that? You
sittin' at the head of your own dinner table and actin' like a waiter."
No, my bf doesn't mind, I'm not flirting with them, nor having cybersex
with them. There's a lot of inbetween all or nothing.
Our comments are quite mild compared to the vitriol you spew out...
No, that's wrong. I didn't bring up "several people", I brought up
maybe two or three and not any larger of a number. I mainly focused on
the one poster who admitted that he had real life experience with
being a pedophile and then went on to be a pedophilic fiction writer.
Beats the can off of me why you'd EVER even speak to a guy like that
and give him the time nor the hour of the day, truthfully. Don't you
care about little kids and their safety even a *tiny*, teensy weensy
bit, Suzee?
S*Babykins
Little kids huh? Are 16 year olds little kids?
And in actuality, I think you only mentioned, or focussed, on one
person. And outside of a few replies in general to posts he made (most
having to do with writing, which btw is the main topic for that group),
I have had no other contact with.
> Our comments are quite mild compared to the vitriol you spew out...
I freely admit that the "he/she started it first" defense is not very mature
of me. However, I've never represented myself to be a paragon of virtue on
this newsgroup. I don't hold myself up as the standard bearer for decency
among the members here. I also have a lower burden of proof, since
reactionaries such as yourself and Bonbon like to refer to me as a "troll"
or "shit disturber". So, you know, if I come in here and talk trash, that's
to be expected of me by some people.
Meanwhile, people such as yourself and Bonbon hold yourselves up as the
"good people" on the newsgroup, yet you constantly attack me first. I gave a
personal experience about why I do not like DrOOL, and you, being the savage
opportunist that you are, used it as a pathway to launch a personal attack
against me. That's fairly SOP for you; you take a benign thread, do a
drive-by shooting of someone's character or reputation, then sit back and
watch the newsgroup implode and the carnage begin.
Did my comment about Drake Hogestyn and this show require a response from
your fat mouth? Was anyone even talking about you? Nooooooooooooo.
The first time you even came onto my radar was when you took offense to my
comment that Ken Corday treats his audience like a bunch of abused
housewives. Damn if you didn't get your granny girdle in a bunch over that
comment. And I'm the first person you single out when you are having a
particularly bad day. Clearly you've got "man issues". You're not getting
much attention from the BF at home, or else you'd not feel the need to come
in here and start savaging me everyday.
> Our comments are quite mild compared to the vitriol you spew out...
Why are you even making any 'mild comments'? Shouldn't you, the better and
more mature person, not even be engaging me at all with rude remarks?
Shouldn't you be showing me the true path to maturity and harmony by
refusing to engage in such gutterball tactics? Shouldn't you be above the
fray? Well guess what babe: you're not.
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Icebreaker
"You don't want to beat me or screw me? What kind of a marriage is this?"
Wrong.
> Wrong.
Yep, you've clearly learned well at the feet of The Master. Bonbon has
taught you well. You take a 500 word post and respond to it with ONE WORD
and no editing. You're as intellectually lazy as Bonbon. Of course. What am
I saying?! You sit around the house all day and watch slop operas. It's only
natural that your brain has turned to mush. If you don't use it, it begins
to atrophy, and obviously you haven't it used it for some time.
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Icebreaker
"But i'm not like you. I'm white. The only thing Indian about me is my
underwear, and it's creeping up the trail."
Yes, I think teenagers are definitely kids and that they are more
impressionable than adults. When I said little, I was referring to his
comment that he had real life experience, so we don't know *ALL* of
the ages of all of his real life experiences, now do we? Since the
poster admitted he was into pedophilia, it's safe to think that some
of his focus group would be even younger than 16, even though 16 is
still pretty gross for a grown man.
WHY would you even SPEAK to an admitted pedophile in the FIRST place
and give them the time of day, though? You never answered that and
it's probably because you're embarassed.
S*Babykins
> The first time you even came onto my radar was when you took offense to my
> comment that Ken Corday treats his audience like a bunch of abused
> housewives. Damn if you didn't get your granny girdle in a bunch over that
> comment. And I'm the first person you single out when you are having a
> particularly bad day. Clearly you've got "man issues". You're not getting
> much attention from the BF at home, or else you'd not feel the need to come
> in here and start savaging me everyday.
>
> -------------------------------------
> Icebreaker
> "Boy, you goin' let this ol' nappy-headed girl cuss you out like that? You
> sittin' at the head of your own dinner table and actin' like a waiter."
I've actually thought for a long time that her anger towards you and
her jumping to conclusions and calling you a harasser all of the time
is sort of a sign of her not necessarily having boyfriend/man issues,
but certainly having Daddy issues. She's got this bizarre push/pull
struggle with control, that's for damn sure, especially exhibited in
her changing header lines in threads to "I will NOT LEAVE, Ice and
JN!!!" and stuff like that. Sure, we don't like her, but we didn't
tell her has to leave. She just automatically FLEW off the handle and
said that. Control issues for that one. Big time, Ice. Somehow,
somewhere somebody threw her out and she had to fend for herself or
something and is still pissed off about it. WHY else would she get so
in our faces when we NEVER said she was going to be thrown out of
here?
S*Babykins
I've actually thought for a long time that her anger towards you and
her jumping to conclusions and calling you a harasser all of the time
is sort of a sign of her not necessarily having boyfriend/man issues,
but certainly having Daddy issues. She's got this bizarre push/pull
struggle with control, that's for damn sure....
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But people with "daddy issues" often end up having "man issues" later in
life. So, in Suzee's case, it's all one and the same. I still think she's
got a boyfriend that abuses her. He probably gets a bit rough with her at
times. He's probably hit her on a few occasions. Probably grabbed her by the
wrists so tight that it left bruises, then slammed her up against the wall.
She keeps taking him back because she a) has little or low self-esteem and
b) saw her mother take her cheating, abusive, drunken father back time and
time again.
Suzee is also a major follower. Notice how she's picked up Bonbon's bad
habit of quoting a 1000 line disseration on the need for nuclear
disarmament, only to respond with "I agree"? Suzee needs someone to do the
thinking for her. She's not that bright, and that's why she's easily
maninpulated by svengalis such as Bonbon and her boyfriend (not Bonbon's
boyfriend, but Suzee's boyfriend because, well, obviously Bonbon doesn't
have a boyfriend; what man would want her?).
So you think it's a man issue and not JUST simply a daddy issue, eh? I
cannot respond in full with an open mind and a whole heart to this
post. Not yet at least. It's just that when you disagree with me, Ice,
you disagree so disagreeably, which in turn makes me feel so very
harassed. And *THAT* makes me bound up with a considerable amount of
constipation because it is then that I am reminded that you're nothing
but a huge shit disturber and it's stopping me from being able to go.
Once I visit a few free Usenet sexual discussion generalized chats and
sexual fiction Usenet chats, I *might* feel more at ease. I'm also
going to try to do some yoga, eat some of that Activia yogurt (for the
shit disturbing that I already mentioned) to get my digestive tract
and the irregularity more in order, and of course, play disc #4 of my
Enya CD boxed set while I light a chakra candle. I might also go for a
15 minute chair massage at the local mall.
I'll get back to you when I feel less harassed and shit disturbed by
you, unless you pick on Drake Hogestyn, screw up HIS bowel movement
schedule and antagonize HIM first. In which case, I will showcase your
inapproprite behavior for all to see with an immediate response, and
THEN I will go back to my yoga, my tai kwan do and perhaps listen to
track #3 on my Gregorian Chants CD, too.
You'll hear from me either way. I just have to get regular again so
that I can feel more agreeable around you. I just have to give you the
appropriate SPACE in which to feel like you can be yourself around me
and not so much of a harasser. We used to have some good times
together, Ice. I used to not feel so harassed. I used to crap three
times a day. Now everything is so disturbed and off kilter between us.
I hope we can back back on track, Babe. I'm gonna' miss you. Until
then....
S*Babykins
I've never spoken to that person, that's why...
Wrong, completely wrong....
Wrong, absolutely wrong....
> Wrong, completely wrong....
Thank you for adding so much to the discussion.
And yes, we're right and you're loathe to admit it.
You misspelled my name...
> You misspelled my name...
No I didn't.
I fixed it...
I'm sure he's stuck in a corner slitting his wrists over this at this
very moment. Accept his heartfelt apology on my behalf. How dare
anyone spell your name wrong and break your heart that way. I have
spelled your name wrong on countless occassions, too.
Every single time I noticed, I slapped myself, pulled out some of my
hair and then poured hot candle wax between my toes as a punishment.
How dare anyone do that to you. It's just such a horrid, terrible
thing that it pains me to even visualize accidentally doing this to
you again. That's YOUR name, damn it. Nobody's allowed to do that. You
get in their face and tell them to step off and start busting some ass
whenever that happens or else I'll bust the moves and do it for you.
You better start kicking ass and taking names, Suzee. This incorrect
name shit has simply GOT TO STOP. You better do something about it. I
mean it. Hurry up. Come up with a plan.
S*Babykins
Or what?
> You misspelled my name...
That's wrong. Totally wrong. So erroneous. As incorrect as can be.
That's wrong. So wrong. Wrong.
...Did I fail to mention how wrong that is? W-R-O-N-G.
;-)
S*Babykins
This is the SECOND (or maybe the third?) time tonight that you've
posted a blank post with no response, Suzee. Stop it. If you're not
able to post properly tonight for whatever reason, please, just don't
post or at least aknowledge that you did this verbally and try to not
do it anymore.
S*Babykins
Like I said, I didn't misspell your name. The header was changed by someone
else and I simply responded to it with the header intact. Again, just
something else that you're wrong about and make no attempt to correct.
I change the subject line... that's my reply.
Ok, Rad. Cool. He's WAY super massively different than you. His
"colors" that he shows of himself and his personality in "every post
he makes" come through loud and clear and are definitely felt because
he's an honest guy who explains himself VERY well; he's a good writer
that way. Can you finally start to accept that about him, NOT take it
personally and move on? That's just Ice. That's just who and what he
is. It doesn't come with a "Screw You, Suzee!" tag attached to it.
Please, can you just not attach an "Anti-Suzee" vibe to everything he
says and just shrug your shoulders, tell yourself "Oh, well" and move
ON from this, Suzee?
I have asked you.
Dana has asked you.
Becky has asked you.
Cindi has asked you.
Marie is new here and I'm sure doesn't want any of this.
Bonbon has scoffed that it will never end, so why not prove her wrong?
Show her that she need not think that way. Same with Watcher Mom. Make
them proud of you.
Please stop attaching something personal to everything that Ice or I
say to you. (Or anybody else where it feels that way to you.) It's not
personal. Nobody here is trying to mess with you or make you sad.
Promise.
S*Babykins
>
> Little kids huh? Are 16 year olds little kids?
>
Don't get so upset and personally defensive, okay Suzee? Just because
somebody says something that sounds disagreeable to you, they're not
trying to hurt you or mess with you personally. Chill. Peace handshake
with them in your mind before speaking out of turn. No "Huh"s or
defensiveness, ok? TRY to debate freely without putting immediate
labels on things and taking an IMMEDIATE "You are against me so I must
shield myself from you!" stance. 9/10 times in life, it's not that the
person is against you, it's just a knee jerk reaction and it's just
your emotions going into "Yuck, this person hates me, I have to have
to have a plan of action when I speak to them!" mode. This is what I
mean by internalizing everything and this example above is the perfect
one to use. You immediately got defensive with me, and FOR WHAT?
S*Babykins
I'm asking for the childishness to stop. What should I expect with 16 year
olds? No wonder!!! Case closed!
>
> I'm asking for the childishness to stop. What should I expect with 16 year
> olds? No wonder!!! Case closed!
Ok, this is just a bizarre posting (above.) We're not sixteen and you
know we're not. Stop that or just don't post on the thread, please.
S*Babykins
Chill. Calm down with all of the exclamation points, please. Our
problems with Suzee can't be *THAT* big of a deal to you, Cindi. C'mon
already. Easy does it. It's not a flash flood. It's just a television
show. Besides, I don't think anyone here really and truly acts
sixteen. (I mean I don't listen to Marilyn Manson while chewing bubble
gum and trying to skateboard as I post, do you?) Some people here just
don't see eye to eye, that's all. Nobody's gotten mean with you about
it, though, or has resorted to calling you an old lady or anything, so
there's no sense in calling anyone else a young teen. You seem pretty
cool and open minded so far, Cindi, so let's not resort to that,
ok? :-)
S*Babykins
We're not the 16 year olds I referred to. Try to keep up, deary.
See, now that was 100% flip and uncalled for, Suzee. Cindi wants for
this place to run more smoothly and more on topic so she got a little
testy with us both and used some exclamation points and said that she
thought we were acting like teenagers. No sense in getting huffy and
calling her "Deary", though. No sense in possibly creating an enemy.
PUHLEEZE stop personalizing and internalizing everything.
That's not necessary to call her "Deary", but as you wish. I can't
wave a wand above your head and change you. This is what I mean by the
Smart Alec posts, though, Suzee. Especially to a newbie. She's sorta'
new here. Let's not make her feel unwanted before she even decides
whether or not she wants to stay, alright?
:-(
S*Babykins
Nope, not true Cindy. I'm not going there again. You'll see...
Yes, that's what I meant. I said I would not say anything to start
things, even if other people try to goad me into it.
By EJ? I dunno. It could be a ploy to delay the anulment, but I haven't
been watching this week so haven't seen his reactions to everything.
> What do you think Chloe is hiding?
I think the writers haven't figured which direction to take this yet....
I wish it were, because that would mean EJ isn't as sickeningly sweet as
he's acting and a bit of his deviousness is still there. However, he
did ask her one last time to sign the annulment papers before he would
open the letter. She wouldn't.
Poor Suzee. She's on five different NG people's shit list today. Maybe
at the end of the week we can throw her a pinata party to make her
feel better? Sucks right now to be Suzee. Anybody know a guy named
Guillermo or Francisco that I can get a Pinata from for cheap? I want
one that has those edible sucker candy pacifiers in it. They always
make Our Little Suzee feel better. It's the only candy that her
starving maturity level can truly relate to.
S*Babykins
Yeah, you'll see Cindi. Suzee said so. Better mark it on your calendar
and prepare yourself. She means business. She's all about warnings.
Suzee's the NG queen of the warnings.... "He's a troll."...."She's a
troll and is showing her true colors!"......"I'm not going there!
You'll see!"....."I post at TWO different sex NGs, Spangles, don't get
them mixed up or interchange them! That's not FAIR! I'm not going to
explain this again! You'll see!"
;-)
S*Babykins
I think that maybe the storyline is a twist and that the immigration
letter WAS somehow real, but somebody like Regal Roman or Honest Abe
is going to try and convince their sweet girl Sami that EJ was
bullshitting her, she'll believe them, then she will find out EJ was
being honest and will feel guilty. She'll be guilted into getting
closer to him while Lucas is in jail. She will feel terrible that she
didn't trust in his ability to change.
JMO...
**As for where he really *WAS* born and the writers rearranging
things, I think they're hoping we forgot? **
S*Babykins