Dark Shadows on Bluray?
The Man From Mars
Kishin
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> Anyone know if Dark Shadows will be released on Bluray?
If I'm not mistaken, DVD gives you the maximum resolution available from an
old video source, so BluRay would be a waste of money.
--
Kishin
Paul Bearer
wrote:
Wouldn't it be pointless to have it on Blu Ray when the series was
made in the 1960s?
Isn't Blu Ray best for movies made to be viewed in Blu Ray?
Monkey in SF
wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:53:42 -0400, "Kishin" <notha...@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"The Man From Mars" <digby1NOS...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> >news:BfednXt_qf-ct-HX...@posted.hiwaay2...
> >> Anyone know if Dark Shadows will be released on Bluray?
>
> >If I'm not mistaken, DVD gives you the maximum resolution available from an
> >old video source, so BluRay would be a waste of money.
>
> Wouldn't it be pointless to have it on Blu Ray when the series was
> made in the 1960s?
>
> Isn't Blu Ray best for movies made to be viewed in Blu Ray?
Well, yes- definitely.
But we have recently purchased Blu Ray player (in the form of a PS3
that is) and i gotta say.. even my regular dvds look amazing on this
thing! Sharper and more brillliant and the sound quality is tops.
I've even watched some DS on it.. and there is slight, but very
noticeable, improvment in regard to colors and such. The colors really
pop.
That being said- it'd be a waste of resources to release them on Blu
Ray i think, being as it took quite a while for all to eventually come
to dvd.
Not to mention all the thousands of dollars some of us may have spent
buying said dvds. A Blu Ray release would be a waste, imo. There are
so many other things that have yet to come to BR let alone an entire
series of 1000 plus episodes.
Maybe many years down the road........ who can say. I wouldn't rule it
out completely.
Anim8rFSK
<832da356-7464-4ffc...@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
Monkey in SF <mnke...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 11:44?am, Paul Bearer <replyonuse...@emailprivate.com>
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:53:42 -0400, "Kishin" <notha...@nowhere.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"The Man From Mars" <digby1NOS...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> > >news:BfednXt qf-ct-HXnZ2dnUVZ uid...@posted.hiwaay2...
> > >> Anyone know if Dark Shadows will be released on Bluray?
> >
> > >If I'm not mistaken, DVD gives you the maximum resolution available from an
> > >old video source, so BluRay would be a waste of money.
> >
> > Wouldn't it be pointless to have it on Blu Ray when the series was
> > made in the 1960s?
> >
> > Isn't Blu Ray best for movies made to be viewed in Blu Ray?
Sort of. Film is still way higher quality than Blu-ray, so, for
instance, a 1960s TV show finished on film (Bonanza, real Star Trek) can
be remastered to look great. A TV show finished on standard def video
tape (Dark Shadows, Star Trek TNG) is already below the resolution
possible on standard DVD, and there's no reason to put it on Blu-ray
expecting a better visual. You could, however, put a ton of standard
DVD resolution Dark Shadows episodes on one Blu-ray disc, but that would
be about it.
>
> Well, yes- definitely.
> But we have recently purchased Blu Ray player (in the form of a PS3
> that is) and i gotta say.. even my regular dvds look amazing on this
> thing! Sharper and more brillliant and the sound quality is tops.
> I've even watched some DS on it.. and there is slight, but very
> noticeable, improvment in regard to colors and such. The colors really
> pop.
Yes, the PS3 rocks. But as you say, it will play your DVDs.
>
> That being said- it'd be a waste of resources to release them on Blu
> Ray i think, being as it took quite a while for all to eventually come
> to dvd.
> Not to mention all the thousands of dollars some of us may have spent
> buying said dvds. A Blu Ray release would be a waste, imo. There are
> so many other things that have yet to come to BR let alone an entire
> series of 1000 plus episodes.
> Maybe many years down the road........ who can say. I wouldn't rule it
> out completely.
I would. Long before they get around to putting DS on BR, we'll have
some other delivery method in place anyway.
--
Uncle Jack: "Will, you're invisible!"
Will: "Invisible? I can't be! I can touch myself!"
--actual dialog from third season LAND OF THE LOST
Monkey in SF
> In article
> <832da356-7464-4ffc-bf0f-93c32b6d6...@n2g2000vba.googlegroups.com>,
> �Monkey in SF <mnkeeb...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 7, 11:44?am, Paul Bearer <replyonuse...@emailprivate.com>
> > wrote:
> > > On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 10:53:42 -0400, "Kishin" <notha...@nowhere.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > >"The Man From Mars" <digby1NOS...@hiwaay.net> wrote in message
> > > >> Anyone know if Dark Shadows will be released on Bluray?
>
> > > >If I'm not mistaken, DVD gives you the maximum resolution available from an
> > > >old video source, so BluRay would be a waste of money.
>
> > > Wouldn't it be pointless to have it on Blu Ray when the series was
> > > made in the 1960s?
>
> > > Isn't Blu Ray best for movies made to be viewed in Blu Ray?
>
> Sort of. �Film is still way higher quality than Blu-ray, so, for
> instance, a 1960s TV show finished on film (Bonanza, real Star Trek) can
> be remastered to look great. �A TV show finished on standard def video
> tape (Dark Shadows, Star Trek TNG) is already below the resolution
> possible on standard DVD, and there's no reason to put it on Blu-ray
> expecting a better visual. �You could, however, put a ton of standard
> DVD resolution Dark Shadows episodes on one Blu-ray disc, but that would
> be about it.
>
>
Ah, yes. That makes perfect sense now that you mention it. The dif
between "filmed" and "taped".
>
> > Well, yes- definitely.
> > But we have recently purchased Blu Ray player (in the form of a PS3
> > that is) and i gotta say.. even my regular dvds look amazing on this
> > thing! Sharper and more brillliant and the sound quality is tops.
> > I've even watched some DS on it.. and there is slight, but very
> > noticeable, improvment in regard to colors and such. The colors really
> > pop.
>
> Yes, the PS3 rocks. �But as you say, it will play your DVDs.
>
>
We have been SO lovin' our PS3! We'd been putting off getting one cuz
of the price and finally just did it. Best purchase of the year-
especially since my partner and i are gamers.
Been playing "Dead Space" recently. Spooooky ass game, honestly.
Nightmarish- but we love the horror survival games (Silent Hill,
etc.). Also "Little Big Planet" is tremendous fun. Limitless as your
imagination and cute without being sickeningly cute.
Add to that the fact that this thing has 80 gigs, plays and can store
music and pictures.. browse the web, watch dvd and BR discs.
It's pretty nice to be able to watch You Tube stuffs on my big tv i
must say. It's sort of an "all in one" entertaiment center in many
ways.
>
> > That being said- it'd be a waste of resources to release them on Blu
> > Ray i think, being as it took quite a while for all to eventually come
> > to dvd.
> > Not to mention all the thousands of dollars some of us may have spent
> > buying said dvds. A Blu Ray release would be a waste, imo. There are
> > so many other things that have yet to come to BR let alone an entire
> > series of 1000 plus episodes.
> > Maybe many years down the road........ who can say. I wouldn't rule it
> > out completely.
>
> I would. �Long before they get around to putting DS on BR, we'll have
> some other delivery method in place anyway.
>
True, that.
That was me being the "pessimistic optimist" as i call myself LOL.
Wiseguy
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> Anyone know if Dark Shadows will be released on Bluray?
>
>
>
Vampires can't be exposed to Blurays.
Monkey in SF
> "The Man From Mars" <digby1NOS...@hiwaay.net> wrote in news:BfednXt_qf-ct-
> HXnZ2dnUVZ_uidn...@posted.hiwaay2:
>
> > Anyone know if Dark Shadows will be released on Bluray?
>
> Vampires can't be exposed to Blurays.
i always hate to make an entire post for just for one word.. but...
HAH!
Good one.
Anim8rFSK
<d2680226-e781-4d7e...@j19g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Monkey in SF <mnke...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Yes, the PS3 rocks. ?But as you say, it will play your DVDs.
> >
> >
>
> We have been SO lovin' our PS3! We'd been putting off getting one cuz
> of the price and finally just did it. Best purchase of the year-
> especially since my partner and i are gamers.
>
> Been playing "Dead Space" recently. Spooooky ass game, honestly.
> Nightmarish- but we love the horror survival games (Silent Hill,
> etc.). Also "Little Big Planet" is tremendous fun. Limitless as your
> imagination and cute without being sickeningly cute.
>
> Add to that the fact that this thing has 80 gigs, plays and can store
> music and pictures.. browse the web, watch dvd and BR discs.
> It's pretty nice to be able to watch You Tube stuffs on my big tv i
> must say. It's sort of an "all in one" entertaiment center in many
> ways.
I'm loving the wireless media center part. It sees my Mac, and can
access my iTunes, photos, movies, everything.
Paul Bearer
<mnke...@aol.com> wrote:
>On Aug 7, 11:44?am, Paul Bearer <replyonuse...@emailprivate.com>
Isn't it true that you have to belong to some Dark Shadows club to
get Dark Shadows episodes 1-212 on DVD?
Paul Bearer
wrote:
>Yes, the PS3 rocks. But as you say, it will play your DVDs.
a huge hit in sales, as the bulk of games being purchased are not
for these sytemss but are for the Iphone.
The Man From Mars
> Wouldn't it be pointless to have it on Blu Ray when the series was
> made in the 1960s?
>
> Isn't Blu Ray best for movies made to be viewed in Blu Ray?
As was mentioned in the other posts, film quality is actually better than HD
so any series could be released on Bluray. Several old movies, even Robin
Hood from the 1940s, have been released and look fantastic. Wizard of Oz
comes out next month on Bluray so Dark Shadows, like the original Star Trek
(which is released on Bluray in 2009 and the first season on HD DVD in '07),
would benefit greatly from an HD release. It's just about numbers...Are
there enough people that would buy it? People said the same thing about VHS
after spending all their money on video tape copies but the DVDs have sold
well. I think there are enough Dark Shadows fans who have money that it
would sell well on Bluray.
Hope so.
<><
The Man From Mars
>
> If I'm not mistaken, DVD gives you the maximum resolution available from
> an old video source, so BluRay would be a waste of money.
You are mistaken. Film quality is better than HD. Best example is
comparing Star Trek TOS on standard DVD to the Bluray release. I have both
and there is no comparison, Bluray wins by a landslide. TOS is stunning on
Bluray. I think with Dark Shadow's exuberant colors that it would also look
stunning on Bluray. Like with DVD, hopefully it will happen. If there are
enough buyers, it will.
Kishin
news:oiop75915c1jvc21a...@4ax.com...
> Isn't it true that you have to belong to some Dark Shadows club to
> get Dark Shadows episodes 1-212 on DVD?
They were released first to fan club members, but are now available for all.
Check out Amazon and you'll see.
--
Kishin
Kishin
I suppose you're talking about the remake, which was filmed? The original
series was videotaped, and would not benefit much from being put onto
BluRay.
--
Kishin
Anim8rFSK
"The Man From Mars" <digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> > Wouldn't it be pointless to have it on Blu Ray when the series was
> > made in the 1960s?
> >
> > Isn't Blu Ray best for movies made to be viewed in Blu Ray?
>
> As was mentioned in the other posts, film quality is actually better than HD
> so any series could be released on Bluray.
Only series shot and FINISHED on film.
Several old movies, even Robin
> Hood from the 1940s, have been released and look fantastic. Wizard of Oz
> comes out next month on Bluray so Dark Shadows, like the original Star Trek
> (which is released on Bluray in 2009 and the first season on HD DVD in '07),
> would benefit greatly from an HD release.
Nope, it wouldn't benefit at all; Dark Shadows wasn't shot on film, it
was shot on video tape.
Now, the Dark Shadows MOVIES might look better. :)
It's just about numbers...Are
> there enough people that would buy it? People said the same thing about VHS
> after spending all their money on video tape copies but the DVDs have sold
> well. I think there are enough Dark Shadows fans who have money that it
> would sell well on Bluray.
>
> Hope so.
>
> <><
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Anim8rFSK
"The Man From Mars" <digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, DVD gives you the maximum resolution available from
> > an old video source, so BluRay would be a waste of money.
Correct.
>
> You are mistaken.
No, he's not.
> Film quality is better than HD.
Dark Shadows wasn't shot on film. It exists only on tape.
> Best example is
> comparing Star Trek TOS on standard DVD to the Bluray release.
Nope. Trek TOS was film. Dark Shadows was tape.
> I have both
> and there is no comparison, Bluray wins by a landslide. TOS is stunning on
> Bluray. I think with Dark Shadow's exuberant colors that it would also look
> stunning on Bluray.
Nope. It would look like it does now. The quality of the DS masters is
below the level of current DVD tech.
> Like with DVD, hopefully it will happen.
Hopefully not, as there's no reason to it or benefit to be derived from
it.
> If there are
> enough buyers, it will.
--
Paul Bearer
<digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>Wizard of Oz
>comes out next month on Bluray so Dark Shadows, like the original Star Trek
>(which is released on Bluray in 2009 and the first season on HD DVD in '07),
after an eextinsive refurbishing of the epioodes.
They spent millions of dollars retooling those episodes.
If you saw the refurbished episodes they look much
different than the originals.
It was those refurbished episodes that made on to the HD dvds.
John
quality than HD is not true. Ever see a Super 8 home movie?
Yes, showing a Super 8 home movie in BluRay would provide the highest
resolution of a grainy film, better than a regular DVD, making it worth
it, as it would be with any film. Providing the best film and sound
sources is essential, and restoring the film first is an important
option.
Yes, it's true, putting standard resolution video tape sources onto
BluRay is a waste of time and will not provide a true HD picture. Filmed
episodes of a show that was filmed (and the original film still exists,
not videotapes of the filmed show) should be remastered in HD and put on
BluRay if there is a market for it.
The only time the original Dark Shadows episodes made in 1966 to 1971
would benifit a little for a remastering in HD would be the kinoscopes,
as long as they went to the actual reels of film and did it directly
from them, NOT videotapes of the kinoscopes. All you would be getting
are slightly clearer pictures of poorly shot film in black and white of
a TV screen.
Anim8rFSK
West1...@webtv.net (John) wrote:
And that original TV screen was below DVD resolution to start with. A
decent remaster of the kinescope isn't going to give you anything more
than a DVD can handle.
The Man From Mars
release the whole series of Dark Shadows on 10 volumes of Bluray instead of
the 33 DVD volumes. Maybe less than that. They could probably still
remaster Dark Shadows and upconvert it to make it look better than it does
on DVD but if nothing else I do know it would save us all some space in our
DVD holders to release the series on Bluray. I would buy it for that as
well as all the extras they could fit on each one, and with BD live, the
possibilites are endless especially with the new Burton film on the horizon.
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Anim8rFSK
"The Man From Mars" <digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> You are forgetting how much capacity a bluray has. You could probably
> release the whole series of Dark Shadows on 10 volumes of Bluray instead of
> the 33 DVD volumes.
I mentioned that some time ago.
> Maybe less than that. They could probably still
> remaster Dark Shadows and upconvert it to make it look better than it does
> on DVD but if nothing else I do know it would save us all some space in our
> DVD holders to release the series on Bluray.
You're gonna spend hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars to save some
space on discs?
The Man From Mars
>
> You're gonna spend hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars to save some
> space on discs?
>
Anim8rFSK
"The Man From Mars" <digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
Yeah, and they've already got them.
Joe
wrote:
>In article <2MCdnfSOGbQeJuLX...@posted.hiwaay2>,
> "The Man From Mars" <digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > You're gonna spend hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars to save some
>> > space on discs?
>> >
>> Thousands? Not likely but some people spent thousands on the VHS tapes.
>
>Yeah, and they've already got them.
I cant see anybody enhancing a show like DS. If it is released on Blu
Ray it probably will be as is. By the way Blu Ray may be all that
exists in the years to come so it might get the treatment by default
The Man From Mars
>> > You're gonna spend hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars to save some
>> > space on discs?
>> >
>> Thousands? Not likely but some people spent thousands on the VHS tapes.
>
> Yeah, and they've already got them.
>
I'll spend $500 for the series on Blurays...
Wiseguy
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246 to get all unedited episodes.
Anim8rFSK
"The Man From Mars" <digby1...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
And I said hundreds to start with, and $20 is a ridiculously low price
for jam packed Blu-rays. Do you even have a point, or do you just enjoy
being wrong?
The Man From Mars
>
> And I said hundreds to start with, and $20 is a ridiculously low price
> for jam packed Blu-rays. Do you even have a point, or do you just enjoy >
> being wrong?
Wrong about what you miserable asshole?
LRESA
wrote:
> > You're gonna spend hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars to save some
> > space on discs?
>
> Thousands? �Not likely but some people spent thousands on the VHS tapes.
Wow. I wonder if people who bought all the vhs tried to dub to
dvd....or purchased
the dvds as well.
LRESA
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:52:15 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <2MCdnfSOGbQeJuLXnZ2dnUVZ_r-dn...@posted.hiwaay2>,
> > "The Man From Mars" <digby1NOS...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>
> >> > You're gonna spend hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars to save some
> >> > space on discs?
>
> >> Thousands? �Not likely but some people spent thousands on the VHS tapes.
>
> >Yeah, and they've already got them.
>
> I cant see anybody enhancing a show like DS. If it is released on Blu
> Ray it probably will be as is. �By the way Blu Ray may be all that
> exists in the years to come so it might get the treatment by default
I estimate you could get DS on blu-ray with about 10-12 volumes.
Probably a slight enhancement but not much.
Blu-Ray players had come down in retail price quite a bit but their
sales are slow. Probably because DVDs are downwardly compatible and
you really need a Hi-Def tuner and programming to really appreciate
blu-ray.... for starters. If and when stand-alone, table-top blu-ray
recorders hit the market then blu-ray will reaally begin to take off.
vince garcia
years ago, i was fortunate enough to buy all the episodes on VHS from
someone here. Some episodes had commercials on them, and i actually
appreciate that because I like seeing commercials I remember from many
years ago.
Kishin
news:4A9417...@ix.netcom.com...
One of two of the early episodes have commercials on DVD.
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Kishin
Wiseguy
news:h737q0$4i2$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
The same episodes as on VHS?