AOQ Review 4-15: "This Year's Girl"
Arbitrar Of Quality
threads.
BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER
Season Four, Episode 15: "This Year's Girl"
(or "Five by five/hands of... uh, jive?")
Writer: Douglas Petrie
Director: Michael Gershman
The opening parts of this episode led to a fair amount of "fuck,
yeah"s in my part of town. Faith's back! Watching the pre-title
credits was the most fun it'd been since "Becoming": looks like
Sutherland is in this one, haven't seen her for awhile... hey, Harry
Groener, how cool! Plus, Faith's back!
So yeah, I was rather pleased to see us open with a dream (I suppose
dream sequences can be our friends, on occasion) that echoes
"Graduation Day II" in its crypticness. I wonder how often
they've shared these dreams, and how much Buffy remembers of them?
Here I was still inwardly squealing about the return of one of the
show's best villains; I'd have to rate the Initiative and Adam as a
mixed bag at best, so we've been starved for some good opposition
lately.
Riley's continuing to learn what it means to go outside his old chain
of command. Looks like it won't be long before he loses control of
Forrest and possibly the others too, but he's going to push it to its
limits: he has the scarf part of someone to return, after all. We get
some of the better B/R scenes this week, with the only weak one being
the bit with Buffy saying "psycho killer" about thirty times.
Overall, Soldier-boy works best for me when he's in self-deprecating
mode. Buffy tossing him the ball is a funny moment with a point. He
may not be quite the normal guy she was looking for, but he needs our
favorite Slayer as a Protector, more consistently than certain previous
boyfriends might have. I was going to say something about whether
she'll like letting the professional slip into the personal affairs,
but then I remembered that it's more an identity than a job, really.
The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign. In a second
interesting dream, Faith's good twin is cast as a relentless angel of
death, killing her "father" (after he was so nice to the cute
little snake too), and haunting her to the grave. I think it's a
clever idea to not present that in one chunk; TYG cuts back and forth
between that and other stuff, as if it were "really" happening.
Makes it more effective. There are some very well composed shots and
some cool music centered around Faith alone and walking, both before
and after her awakening. I don't know why she suddenly doesn't
look at all battered anymore after the coma - call it Slayer healing,
I guess. I like the flippant comments about trying to figure out
what's in style this year... and Voyeur Faith is pretty creepy while
leaving us, as always, intensely trying to figure out what she's
thinking.
Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
Meanwhile the nurse is also making a phone call, which has implications
later in the episode involving helicopters and Giles. I don't get
that either, but that's clearly intentional setup as opposed to ...
whatever the first thing is.
I initially took Buffy on her word when telling Willow about what she
said to Riley about Faith ("it's good you guys have such an honest
relationship"). Someone's slipping in his old age.
This brings us to B and F just meeting face to face without preamble.
Our hero has to quickly assess where Faith's head's at, and is
understandably disappointed that she's still dangerous. Slayerbash
Pt. III gives us some good action, some cutting remarks that hit a
little too close to home from the antagonist (ME shows really love to
do that, huh?)... and don't forget Willow trying to hit Faith with
her backpack! Doesn't deflate the tension, and I'm grinning just
thinking about it. Not so long afterward, Willow seems so capable when
more in her element, talking to a wild-eyed Tara about planning, even
when the plan she's proposing involves running and screaming.
Perhaps Mrs. Quality's favorite bit of the episode is "ooh, check
me out, I'm wicked cool, I'm five by five." "Five what by five
what?" "See, that's the thing! No one knows!" (it's all
about the inflections and hand gestures).
When I rewatch the series, I'll have to keep count of the appearances
of the WillowHats.
His best efforts notwithstanding, Spike can't seem to shake people
not only not fearing him, but expecting him to be one of the good guys.
His one scene reminds us that Petrie still seems to treat Xander (and
Giles to a lesser extent) as bumbling comic relief, more so than I'd
like. But at least Xander gets "I'd hate to see the pursuit of a
homicidal lunatic get in the way of pursuing a homicidal lunatic" and
"one word: evil" this time. Also looking for the chip in Riley's
brain, since that's not only funny but also sets up another little
scene later.
Faith gets herself a new weapon of sorts courtesy of Wilkins reaching
out from beyond the grave from right before the end of last season.
Making a videotape like this sounds like just the kind of thing we'd
expect from him. He's still magnetic, reminding us of a time when
the whole show was a little better. It's captivating to watch him
switch between capable authoritarianism, good-humored lame jokes, and
regretful sincerity. He makes Faith feel special, then hits her with
how alone she is, as he skillfully manipulates his protégé into one
more suicide run, or so it seems.
The confrontation between Faith and Joyce is another one of the
episode's highlights. Joyce seems convincingly alone, far from help.
Add the moment of silence at the "obvious" cue for Buffy to come
crashing in, so she can make her entrance a few minutes later. Faith
is saying enough things that're too true to be brushed aside, but Mom
at least appears to have her priorities straight. Two nice lines from
her, but they're all in the delivery: "Were you going to slit my
throat anytime soon?" and "hi, honey." I feel like Faith may
have unwittingly handed her the clue to deciphering what was really
happening at the very end - we shall soon see.
Slayerbash Pt. IV has a little too much girly namecalling and silly use
of props (sliding down the stairs? C'mon...) for my taste. Credit
for "Did it ever occur to you, Faith, that the reason we all forgot
you is because we wanted to?" at least. Lots of good lines this
week, huh?
And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
can I?
So...
One-sentence summary: Best episode in months, just a tick or two shy of
Excellent.
AOQ rating: Good
[Season Four so far:
1) "The Freshman" - Good
2) "Living Conditions" - Decent
3) "The Harsh Light Of Day" - Good
4) "Fear Itself" - Decent
5) "Beer Bad" - Weak
6) "Wild At Heart" - Excellent
7) "The Initiative" - Decent
8) "Pangs" - Good
9) "Something Blue" - Good
10) "Hush" - Good
11) "Doomed" - Weak
12) "A New Man" - Decent
13) "The I In Team" - Good
14) "Goodbye Iowa" - Good
15) "This Year's Girl" - Good]
Mike Zeares
Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
> Season Four, Episode 15: "This Year's Girl"
> (or "Five by five/hands of... uh, jive?")
Heh.
> The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
> somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
> see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign.
I have to quibble with this -- these seem to be strictly Faith's
dreams. There was no indication that Buffy was sharing them that I
could see.
> Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
My guess would be the police. Buffy seemed to be answering a question
about whether she knew where Faith was. The police had questioned
both Buffy and Faith before, remember, so they knew that they knew each
other. It is just a theory, though. The shooting script doesn't say
who called her.
> Perhaps Mrs. Quality's favorite bit of the episode is "ooh, check
> me out, I'm wicked cool, I'm five by five." "Five what by five
> what?" "See, that's the thing! No one knows!" (it's all
> about the inflections and hand gestures).
I also liked her description of Faith as a cleavagey slut bomb.
> When I rewatch the series, I'll have to keep count of the appearances
> of the WillowHats.
Cool. You do Willow's hats, I'll do Buffy's coats.
> Faith gets herself a new weapon of sorts courtesy of Wilkins reaching
> out from beyond the grave from right before the end of last season.
> Making a videotape like this sounds like just the kind of thing we'd
> expect from him. He's still magnetic, reminding us of a time when
> the whole show was a little better.
Yeah. Good times.
> And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> can I?
Plus, Whedon and Co. have a habit of taking stock fantasy tropes and
finding new life in them. Plus-plus, it's Faith! In Buffy! It's
Fuffy!
> So...
>
> One-sentence summary: Best episode in months, just a tick or two shy of
> Excellent.
I concur.
-- Mike Zeares
jil...@hotmail.com
same episode* OH! With some vague wisdom, I've checked a transcript.
And just you wait!
Apteryx
news:1147495894.3...@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
>threads.
>The opening parts of this episode led to a fair amount of "fuck,
>yeah"s in my part of town. Faith's back! Watching the pre-title
>credits was the most fun it'd been since "Becoming": looks like
>Sutherland is in this one, haven't seen her for awhile... hey, Harry
>Groener, how cool! Plus, Faith's back!
I never watched BtVS 4 and AtS 1 together before (except for the
specifically episodes), so didn't realise before what a breath of fresh air
this episode is after a long dull period in both series. By Faith are we
saved.
>So yeah, I was rather pleased to see us open with a dream (I suppose
>dream sequences can be our friends, on occasion) that echoes
>"Graduation Day II" in its crypticness. I wonder how often
>they've shared these dreams, and how much Buffy remembers of them?
I don't think any of these dreams are shared. The GD II dream suggests
internally it is shared with Buffy's question "Is this your mind or mine",
but the difference in attitude between that dream's Faith and the awakened
Faith shows pretty clearly that that dream was just Buffy's. These are just
Faith's.
>His best efforts notwithstanding, Spike can't seem to shake people
>not only not fearing him, but expecting him to be one of the good guys.
>His one scene reminds us that Petrie still seems to treat Xander (and
>Giles to a lesser extent) as bumbling comic relief, more so than I'd
>like.
Love that scene
>Faith gets herself a new weapon of sorts courtesy of Wilkins reaching
>out from beyond the grave from right before the end of last season.
>Making a videotape like this sounds like just the kind of thing we'd
>expect from him. He's still magnetic, reminding us of a time when
>the whole show was a little better. It's captivating to watch him
>switch between capable authoritarianism, good-humored lame jokes, and
>regretful sincerity. He makes Faith feel special, then hits her with
>how alone she is, as he skillfully manipulates his protégé into one
>more suicide run, or so it seems.
Ah, good times. It's a shame he had to go get blown up.
>And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
>stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
>it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
>two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
>You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
>can I?
Agree on both points. Generally would be prety lame, but between Buffy and
Faith? Imagine the possibilities. Better, yet, go watch the possibilities.
>So...
>One-sentence summary: Best episode in months, just a tick or two shy of
>Excellent.
>AOQ rating: Good
Definitely Good. A fair way from excellent for me, but definitely a good
set-up for the 2nd part. For me, the 51st best BtVS episode, 11th best in
season 4
--
Apteryx
vague disclaimer
"Mike Zeares" <mze...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > When I rewatch the series, I'll have to keep count of the appearances
> > of the WillowHats.
>
> Cool. You do Willow's hats, I'll do Buffy's coats.
I assume Don and George are still on leather pant patrol?
--
A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend
Apteryx
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>
> I never watched BtVS 4 and AtS 1 together before (except for the
> specifically episodes)
um, that would be "specifically linked episodes".
That was a trial version of a new rot-13 where you leave out every 13th
word. It has a few problems.
--
Apteryx
BTR1701
wrote:
> "Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147495894.3...@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
> >threads.
>
> >The opening parts of this episode led to a fair amount of "fuck,
> >yeah"s in my part of town. Faith's back! Watching the pre-title
> >credits was the most fun it'd been since "Becoming": looks like
> >Sutherland is in this one, haven't seen her for awhile... hey, Harry
> >Groener, how cool! Plus, Faith's back!
>
> I never watched BtVS 4 and AtS 1 together before (except for the
> specifically episodes), so didn't realise before what a breath of fresh air
> this episode is after a long dull period in both series. By Faith are we
> saved.
Best character the show ever produced. Fur fvatyr-unaqrqyl erfphrq gur
raq bs Frnfba 7 naq znqr vg ng yrnfg jngpunoyr.
Steve Schaffner
And the Faith/Mayor relationship was one of the most interesting of
the show.
--
Steve Schaffner s...@broad.mit.edu
Immediate assurance is an excellent sign of probable lack of
insight into the topic. Josiah Royce
John Briggs
> In article <1147500029.5...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mike Zeares" <mze...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> When I rewatch the series, I'll have to keep count of the
>>> appearances of the WillowHats.
>>
>> Cool. You do Willow's hats, I'll do Buffy's coats.
>
> I assume Don and George are still on leather pant patrol?
That would be the Leather Pants of Evil, of course.
--
John Briggs
One Bit Shy
news:1147495894.3...@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> The opening parts of this episode led to a fair amount of "fuck,
> yeah"s in my part of town. Faith's back! Watching the pre-title
> credits was the most fun it'd been since "Becoming": looks like
> Sutherland is in this one, haven't seen her for awhile... hey, Harry
> Groener, how cool! Plus, Faith's back!
On the whole BtVS does pretty well handling return appearances by old
characters. I'd consider it a series feature. Used effectively, but not
over done. I can think of a couple cases that fall a bit short, but they're
more than made up by others that are real season highlights - like Spike in
LW last year. And Faith right here.
> So yeah, I was rather pleased to see us open with a dream (I suppose
> dream sequences can be our friends, on occasion) that echoes
> "Graduation Day II" in its crypticness. I wonder how often
> they've shared these dreams, and how much Buffy remembers of them?
I continue to lean towards the idea that the GDII dream was shared in some
fashion, though a case can be made for it being Buffy's dream alone. Here,
however, I think it's pretty clearly Faith's dream alone. If for no other
reason than Buffy doesn't remember it at all.
Which I think makes it the first non-Buffy slayer dream. With that in mind,
do you suppose Faith's dreams are prophetic too?
> Riley's continuing to learn what it means to go outside his old chain
> of command. Looks like it won't be long before he loses control of
> Forrest and possibly the others too, but he's going to push it to its
> limits: he has the scarf part of someone to return, after all.
While Forrest essentially accuses Riley of letting his feelings for Buffy
undermine his military duty, I would like to point out that as far as we
know (and Riley knows), Riley is in command. Forrest is acting a lot more
emotional than Riley and is the one pushing the edge of insubordination.
That's not to say that Forrest is necessarily wrong, but it points to
Riley's own state of mind. Which comes up again later when Giles refers to
Riley as a man inside and Buffy calls him double agent guy. Riley backs
away from those descriptions and calls it just sharing information. From
his point of view I think he sees that as a command judgment on his part.
That's what needs to be done to get Adam.
Of course Riley *is* struggling with doubts about his military status.
Having the bad side of the Initiative exposed seriously undercut his place
in the world that he thought he understood. So we see him nervously looking
for Initiative surveilance when alone with Buffy, and practically pleading
for Buffy to give him an order because taking orders is what he knows how to
do.
Which leads me back to the Forrest confrontation when Forrest demands that
Riley keep it in the family and Riley responds, "Family? Is that what we
are?"
And therein lies the core of Riley's conflict.
> He
> may not be quite the normal guy she was looking for, but he needs our
> favorite Slayer as a Protector, more consistently than certain previous
> boyfriends might have. I was going to say something about whether
> she'll like letting the professional slip into the personal affairs,
> but then I remembered that it's more an identity than a job, really.
Suitable boyfriends for Buffy are hard to find aren't they? The
supernatural option seems pretty scant. Angel worked well in some ways, but
obviously with deadly dangers too. Normal guys can never fully share her
life - at least not without Buffy having to consume all her efforts
protecting them, which would probably impinge a bit on the romance of it.
Just being alone doesn't seem to suit her. Indeed, resisting that would
appear to be part of her slayer rebellion.
So what better compromise than somebody like Riley? Yeah, she may need to
protect him more than somebody like Angel. But at least they can really
fight together and have hot sex afterwards. Besides, Willow approves of
him. <g>
> The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
> somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
> see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign. In a second
> interesting dream, Faith's good twin is cast as a relentless angel of
> death, killing her "father" (after he was so nice to the cute
> little snake too), and haunting her to the grave. I think it's a
> clever idea to not present that in one chunk; TYG cuts back and forth
> between that and other stuff, as if it were "really" happening.
> Makes it more effective.
One of the reasons I tend to think Faith is part of the GD2 dream is the
continuation of its tone that you observe in the start of this dream. For a
moment their sense of sisterhood is continued. But there's a knife between
them and it's soon made clear that Faith has come to blame Buffy for what
has gone wrong in her life. Petrie emphasizes that in his commentary.
Especially pointing to the picnic scene representing Faith's yearned for
ideal that is ruined by the wicked Buffy's murderous intervention.
But just in centering all on Buffy, Faith can never completely remove that
sense of sisterhood.
Love the image of Faith looking up from the grave.
I also really like how they show the dangerous awakened Faith with Buffy's
voice saying, "Y'know, I never stopped thinking about you." And then cut to
Buffy and Riley showing that Buffy was talking about Riley and really *has*
stopped thinking about Faith. A theme to be continued. That's slick work.
One of many examples of confident crafting we see in this and coming
episodes. We're entering a period here where the M.E. production team, the
actors and the writers are all performing at a high level of professionalism
in my estimation.
> There are some very well composed shots and
> some cool music centered around Faith alone and walking, both before
> and after her awakening. I don't know why she suddenly doesn't
> look at all battered anymore after the coma - call it Slayer healing,
> I guess. I like the flippant comments about trying to figure out
> what's in style this year... and Voyeur Faith is pretty creepy while
> leaving us, as always, intensely trying to figure out what she's
> thinking.
Petrie emphasized the happy father and daughter crossing the street in front
of Faith and seeing the gang together as family in front of a fire in Giles
place as striking at Faith's yearnings.
> Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
That bothers me too. The best I can think of is the police alerting her.
But every time I imagine what would have led to that I keep running into
complications. (Why call Giles looking for Buffy? Why would the police
think Buffy needed special warning without them knowing things like Buffy
putting the knife in her to begin with?) On the other hand, the episode
does need to get the news out. And doing it without explanation may have
fewer problems (and be less boring) than constructing an explanation.
> Meanwhile the nurse is also making a phone call, which has implications
> later in the episode involving helicopters and Giles. I don't get
> that either, but that's clearly intentional setup as opposed to ...
> whatever the first thing is.
I'm surprised you didn't get that. Presumably that's clearer to you now.
> This brings us to B and F just meeting face to face without preamble.
> Our hero has to quickly assess where Faith's head's at, and is
> understandably disappointed that she's still dangerous. Slayerbash
> Pt. III gives us some good action, some cutting remarks that hit a
> little too close to home from the antagonist (ME shows really love to
> do that, huh?)... and don't forget Willow trying to hit Faith with
> her backpack! Doesn't deflate the tension, and I'm grinning just
> thinking about it.
Oooh. This scene alone is worth the price of admission. Buffy and Willow
just before it was one of the few kind of dull moments in the episode to my
eyes, but that only better served to set up the surprise of Faith turning
around and saying, "But you're not me." Yep, the cutting remarks do indeed
hit a little too close to home. And Willow does get in one good whack with
the backpack. (Go Willow!) Also serving to remind us how much Willow truly
loathes Faith.
> Not so long afterward, Willow seems so capable when
> more in her element, talking to a wild-eyed Tara about planning, even
> when the plan she's proposing involves running and screaming.
> Perhaps Mrs. Quality's favorite bit of the episode is "ooh, check
> me out, I'm wicked cool, I'm five by five." "Five what by five
> what?" "See, that's the thing! No one knows!" (it's all
> about the inflections and hand gestures).
Tara: You said "recon". You're like "Cool Monster Fighter"!
I'm not sure what I think of Tara in this scene. She is endearing and funny
in her way. But it's also kind of the extreme end of her slouching,
physically inept, in awe of Willow mode.
> His best efforts notwithstanding, Spike can't seem to shake people
> not only not fearing him, but expecting him to be one of the good guys.
I love Giles open mouthed expression as Spike mocks them.
But it's my suspicion that the scene was meant to remind the audience as
much as the characters of Spike's bad side.
> His one scene reminds us that Petrie still seems to treat Xander (and
> Giles to a lesser extent) as bumbling comic relief, more so than I'd
> like.
Do you mean like the gags with the blaster? I confess I couldn't help
laughing when everybody ignored him while he was nearly electrocuted.
> But at least Xander gets "I'd hate to see the pursuit of a
> homicidal lunatic get in the way of pursuing a homicidal lunatic" and
> "one word: evil" this time. Also looking for the chip in Riley's
> brain, since that's not only funny but also sets up another little
> scene later.
What I wonder is if Buffy was kidding about looking for a chip or if she
took Xander's notion seriously and was just deflecting Riley with humor.
> Faith gets herself a new weapon of sorts courtesy of Wilkins reaching
> out from beyond the grave from right before the end of last season.
> Making a videotape like this sounds like just the kind of thing we'd
> expect from him. He's still magnetic, reminding us of a time when
> the whole show was a little better. It's captivating to watch him
> switch between capable authoritarianism, good-humored lame jokes, and
> regretful sincerity. He makes Faith feel special, then hits her with
> how alone she is, as he skillfully manipulates his protégé into one
> more suicide run, or so it seems.
I'm glad you noted that manipulative element. The taped scene is wonderful.
Probably honest and heartfelt from Wilkins point of view. I was half
expecting Faith to cry there. But, of course, the Mayor's point of view is
a decidedly evil one and he does tell Faith that all she can do is lash out
in glorious fury as she dies.
> And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> can I?
All we get is "Five by five" for the moment - which is pretty good. But I
think conceptually it can't be considered a cheap stunt because of the
ongoing S3 question of whether Faith was a mirror to Buffy - what Buffy
would be under different circumstances with different choices. They were
always drawn to what the other had with a deep inner yearning. In other
words, switching selves is something a part of them always wanted. So, this
being Sunnydale and all, that's exactly what had to eventually happen.
> So...
> One-sentence summary: Best episode in months, just a tick or two shy of
> Excellent.
> AOQ rating: Good
Best episode since Hush anyway. <eg> And soon to be surpassed by 3, maybe
4 of the remaining 7 episodes of the season. A generally good period for
the series. I'd rate it as Excellent myself, but not by a whole lot. Love
the dreams, Faith's walk through town, peering in at the gang, and her
wicked confrontations with Buffy and Joyce. Other dialog seemed a tad thin
to me - too much constructed conversation around Faith's movements. Though
the Spike scene and the Willow/Tara scene were good. The ending fight
wasn't too thrilling either, though I liked the smashing of the living room
door.
OBS
BTR1701
"One Bit Shy" <O...@nomail.sorry> wrote:
> "Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote in message
> > And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> > stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> > it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> > two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> > You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> > can I?
>
> All we get is "Five by five" for the moment - which is pretty good.
No, we also get "Sanctuary".
George W Harris
wrote:
:> Riley's continuing to learn what it means to go outside his old chain
:> of command. Looks like it won't be long before he loses control of
:> Forrest and possibly the others too, but he's going to push it to its
:> limits: he has the scarf part of someone to return, after all.
:
:While Forrest essentially accuses Riley of letting his feelings for Buffy
:undermine his military duty, I would like to point out that as far as we
:know (and Riley knows), Riley is in command. Forrest is acting a lot more
:emotional than Riley and is the one pushing the edge of insubordination.
For-rest luuuves Ri-ley.
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George W Harris
wrote:
:But, of course, the Mayor's point of view is
:a decidedly evil one and he does tell Faith that all she can do is lash out
:in glorious fury as she dies.
I don't think that's what he's telling her. He
*does* tell her that there's no place for her in this
world, yes, but as we find out, that's setting up his
giving her the means to be somebody *else*.
--
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Arbitrar Of Quality
> :But, of course, the Mayor's point of view is
> :a decidedly evil one and he does tell Faith that all she can do is lash out
> :in glorious fury as she dies.
>
> I don't think that's what he's telling her. He
> *does* tell her that there's no place for her in this
> world, yes, but as we find out, that's setting up his
> giving her the means to be somebody *else*.
It looks like he's sending her on a suicide run, until you know what
the weapon is. A good bit of writing misdirection.
-AOQ
Don Sample
> Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
>
> > Season Four, Episode 15: "This Year's Girl"
> > (or "Five by five/hands of... uh, jive?")
>
> Heh.
>
> > The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
> > somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
> > see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign.
>
> I have to quibble with this -- these seem to be strictly Faith's
> dreams. There was no indication that Buffy was sharing them that I
> could see.
>
> > Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
>
> My guess would be the police. Buffy seemed to be answering a question
> about whether she knew where Faith was. The police had questioned
> both Buffy and Faith before, remember, so they knew that they knew each
> other. It is just a theory, though. The shooting script doesn't say
> who called her.
Another question is: How'd whoever it was know to call her at Giles'
place?
> > And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> > stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> > it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> > two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> > You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> > can I?
>
> Plus, Whedon and Co. have a habit of taking stock fantasy tropes and
> finding new life in them. Plus-plus, it's Faith! In Buffy! It's
> Fuffy!
Don't forget Baith!
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> "Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > So yeah, I was rather pleased to see us open with a dream (I suppose
> > dream sequences can be our friends, on occasion) that echoes
> > "Graduation Day II" in its crypticness. I wonder how often
> > they've shared these dreams, and how much Buffy remembers of them?
>
> I continue to lean towards the idea that the GDII dream was shared in some
> fashion, though a case can be made for it being Buffy's dream alone. Here,
> however, I think it's pretty clearly Faith's dream alone. If for no other
> reason than Buffy doesn't remember it at all.
Plus, Buffy is shown to be awake at the time of Faith's dream about the
picnic, and running from Buffy into the cemetery, and stuff.
> Suitable boyfriends for Buffy are hard to find aren't they? The
> supernatural option seems pretty scant. Angel worked well in some ways, but
> obviously with deadly dangers too. Normal guys can never fully share her
> life - at least not without Buffy having to consume all her efforts
> protecting them, which would probably impinge a bit on the romance of it.
> Just being alone doesn't seem to suit her. Indeed, resisting that would
> appear to be part of her slayer rebellion.
>
> So what better compromise than somebody like Riley? Yeah, she may need to
> protect him more than somebody like Angel. But at least they can really
> fight together and have hot sex afterwards. Besides, Willow approves of
> him.
Willow approved of Owen, Angel, Scott, and Parker too. Has Buffy ever
expressed interest in a guy that Willow didn't approve of?
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I was referring to the closing line of this episode.
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> On Sat, 13 May 2006 14:59:38 -0400, "One Bit Shy" <O...@nomail.sorry>
> wrote:
>
> :> Riley's continuing to learn what it means to go outside his old chain
> :> of command. Looks like it won't be long before he loses control of
> :> Forrest and possibly the others too, but he's going to push it to its
> :> limits: he has the scarf part of someone to return, after all.
> :
> :While Forrest essentially accuses Riley of letting his feelings for Buffy
> :undermine his military duty, I would like to point out that as far as we
> :know (and Riley knows), Riley is in command. Forrest is acting a lot
> more
> :emotional than Riley and is the one pushing the edge of insubordination.
>
> For-rest luuuves Ri-ley.
Heh.
That hasn't come up much in the AOQ discussions, has it?
Well, he sure is jealous.
OBS
One Bit Shy
> On Sat, 13 May 2006 14:59:38 -0400, "One Bit Shy" <O...@nomail.sorry>
> wrote:
>
> :But, of course, the Mayor's point of view is
> :a decidedly evil one and he does tell Faith that all she can do is lash
> out
> :in glorious fury as she dies.
>
> I don't think that's what he's telling her. He
> *does* tell her that there's no place for her in this
> world, yes, but as we find out, that's setting up his
> giving her the means to be somebody *else*.
And that her days are numbered. And that she can go out with a bang.
That's a fair point, but I'm not entirely convinced he believed it would
work as a permanent solution.
Be that as it may, the greater manipulation is simply keeping Faith aligned
with her dark impulses and pre-empting any possible notion of turning
herself in or redemption or any other hopeful solution. He lays it out as
nothing but death and/or whatever this extravagant magical device
represents - which can't be something good.
As it happens, that may have backfired. But we already know that Wilkins
didn't always plan correctly.
OBS
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She wouldn't dare.
heh. Actually, in a way, there's some truth to that. I don't remember the
sequence with Owen, but as I recall, Willow actively pushed Buffy towards
the other three - and Riley too.
The only other guy I can think of right now is Cameron from Go Fish - which
couldn't last a single car ride. I don't believe Willow ever had the
opportunity to express her opinion about him.
OBS
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> expressed interest in a guy that Willow didn't approve of?
i dont recall her being too thrilled about spike and buffy
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body, doing Buffy in Faith's body and visa versa....
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One Bit Shy wrote:
> "Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147495894.3...@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > may not be quite the normal guy she was looking for, but he needs our
> > favorite Slayer as a Protector, more consistently than certain previous
> > boyfriends might have. I was going to say something about whether
> > she'll like letting the professional slip into the personal affairs,
> > but then I remembered that it's more an identity than a job, really.
>
> Suitable boyfriends for Buffy are hard to find aren't they? The
> supernatural option seems pretty scant. Angel worked well in some ways, but
> obviously with deadly dangers too. Normal guys can never fully share her
> life - at least not without Buffy having to consume all her efforts
> protecting them, which would probably impinge a bit on the romance of it.
> Just being alone doesn't seem to suit her. Indeed, resisting that would
> appear to be part of her slayer rebellion.
>
> So what better compromise than somebody like Riley? Yeah, she may need to
> protect him more than somebody like Angel. But at least they can really
> fight together and have hot sex afterwards. Besides, Willow approves of
> him. <g>
And anything Willow approves of is good enough for me.
Mel
Don Sample wrote:
> In article <1147500029.5...@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>,
> "Mike Zeares" <mze...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Season Four, Episode 15: "This Year's Girl"
>>>(or "Five by five/hands of... uh, jive?")
>>
>>Heh.
>>
>>
>>>The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
>>>somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
>>>see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign.
>>
>>I have to quibble with this -- these seem to be strictly Faith's
>>dreams. There was no indication that Buffy was sharing them that I
>>could see.
>>
>>
>>>Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
>>
>>My guess would be the police. Buffy seemed to be answering a question
>>about whether she knew where Faith was. The police had questioned
>>both Buffy and Faith before, remember, so they knew that they knew each
>>other. It is just a theory, though. The shooting script doesn't say
>>who called her.
>
>
> Another question is: How'd whoever it was know to call her at Giles'
> place?
They tried her at home and Joyce told them to try Giles' number?
Mel
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> > In article <126cb4t...@news.supernews.com>,
> > "One Bit Shy" <O...@nomail.sorry> wrote:
> >
> >> "Arbitrar Of Quality" <tsm...@wildmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >> > And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> >> > stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> >> > it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> >> > two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> >> > You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> >> > can I?
> >>
> >> All we get is "Five by five" for the moment - which is pretty good.
> >
> > No, we also get "Sanctuary".
>
> I was referring to the closing line of this episode.
Ah, I get it now.
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"DysgraphicProgrammer" <Matthew...@gmail.com> wrote:
that would be wrong
and just disturbing
- gur gjb knaqref
hopelessly devoted
Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
> A reminder: Please avoid spoilers for later episodes in these review
> threads.
>
>
> Season Four, Episode 15: "This Year's Girl"
> (or "Five by five/hands of... uh, jive?")
> Director: Michael Gershman
>
> The opening parts of this episode led to a fair amount of "fuck,
> yeah"s in my part of town. Faith's back! Watching the pre-title
> credits was the most fun it'd been since "Becoming": looks like
> Sutherland is in this one, haven't seen her for awhile... hey, Harry
> Groener, how cool! Plus, Faith's back!
>
> dream sequences can be our friends, on occasion) that echoes
> "Graduation Day II" in its crypticness. I wonder how often
> they've shared these dreams, and how much Buffy remembers of them?
> show's best villains; I'd have to rate the Initiative and Adam as a
> mixed bag at best, so we've been starved for some good opposition
> lately.
Once again on first viewing basis only. There was something very sweet
and fantastic about seeing Faith on the screen again. I think "fuck
yeah" covers it pretty well. The making of the bed together was very
nice imagery and my take, at the time and today, "It's what you do."
The bed needs to be made. Put back together. Fixed after the tossing
and the turning. Made right.
The stabbing at the end of the teaser was a clear indication of whose
head I was in and the final evil twist of B....... FAITH'S BACK!!!!!!!
Time to do the Buffy Dance. Cue the Music!!!!
Ah, the Orgasminator! 'nuf said.
Why is Giles folding laundry in Xander's basement????
Interesting that B is putting the Slayer thing first
"Perhaps you could use some".............Adam. "Are you
sure"......................................Adam. All slay all the time
Buffy. Amazing that those closest to her don't see it. More
later......
Xander gets fried, LMAO Still!!!!
> Riley's continuing to learn what it means to go outside his old chain
> of command. Looks like it won't be long before he loses control of
> Forrest and possibly the others too, but he's going to push it to its
> limits: he has the scarf part of someone to return, after all.
So what happens when the secret govt org with the brain washy things
stop liking "his behavior"? Perhaps B is having flashbacks to B2?
Clearly Riley was once "in charge" but his order to stand down proves
that maybe his position, and certainly his reputation are in jeopardy.
With an organization that has "different" priorities, putting those
priorities second, and for an outsider no less, is grounds for
subordination, or possibly mutiny. Forrest speaks, not as a friend,
but as a subordinate clearly unhappy with the way his Commanding
Officer is now running ship.
We get
> some of the better B/R scenes this week, with the only weak one being
> the bit with Buffy saying "psycho killer" about thirty times.
> Overall, Soldier-boy works best for me when he's in self-deprecating
> mode. Buffy tossing him the ball is a funny moment with a point. He
> may not be quite the normal guy she was looking for, but he needs our
> favorite Slayer as a Protector, more consistently than certain previous
> boyfriends might have. I was going to say something about whether
> she'll like letting the professional slip into the personal affairs,
> but then I remembered that it's more an identity than a job, really.
How can anyone say that Riley is boring???? Look at his chest!! I
know, I know. But, isn't that what she needs at this point. No magic,
not demons, no vices, no death wishes. The everyday, ordinary, home
grown Joe. It's perfect!!! However, in retrospect......
> The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
> somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
> see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign. In a second
> interesting dream, Faith's good twin is cast as a relentless angel of
> death, killing her "father" (after he was so nice to the cute
> little snake too), and haunting her to the grave. I think it's a
> clever idea to not present that in one chunk; TYG cuts back and forth
> between that and other stuff, as if it were "really" happening.
> Makes it more effective. There are some very well composed shots and
> some cool music centered around Faith alone and walking, both before
> and after her awakening. I don't know why she suddenly doesn't
> look at all battered anymore after the coma - call it Slayer healing,
> I guess. I like the flippant comments about trying to figure out
> what's in style this year... and Voyeur Faith is pretty creepy while
> leaving us, as always, intensely trying to figure out what she's
> thinking.
I love the fact that it's now Faith in the innocent pink and blue. And
the snake, funny as hell. B doing the typical monster walk while F
runs was classic. Faith falling into her own grave....more later....
The whole scene was absolutely fabulous. The battle off screen and
Faith's pulling herself out. Stand up and Cheer! Oh Yeah! Beck
Rules! And Faith awakes exactly where we left her in GD1, with one
thought in mind. Fighting her Nemesis. This ep, for her at least,
happened in GD2, the very next day. Hate and Loathing fully intact.
The dream sequence was not only brilliant, but also necessary. Faith
is exactly where we left her. And you can see the absolute confusion
and anger in her face when she wakes up. And of course, beat up the
girl with the Teddy Bear. Nice Touch. Well she did mention the
Mayor's demise. Why is it that the clothes always fit????
While there were many reminders (the Father Daughter and The friends)
to remind F of everything that she doesn't have there is something else
in that scene that is very disturbing, she is one of just a handful of
people who is ALONE.
> Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
> Meanwhile the nurse is also making a phone call, which has implications
> later in the episode involving helicopters and Giles. I don't get
> that either, but that's clearly intentional setup as opposed to ...
> whatever the first thing is.
They mysterious phone call didn't bother me as much as it did some.
The Nurse and "The Team" were very interesting indeed.
> I initially took Buffy on her word when telling Willow about what she
> said to Riley about Faith ("it's good you guys have such an honest
> relationship"). Someone's slipping in his old age.
So much more later......
> This brings us to B and F just meeting face to face without preamble.
> Our hero has to quickly assess where Faith's head's at, and is
> understandably disappointed that she's still dangerous. Slayerbash
> Pt. III gives us some good action, some cutting remarks that hit a
> little too close to home from the antagonist (ME shows really love to
> do that, huh?)... and don't forget Willow trying to hit Faith with
> her backpack! Doesn't deflate the tension, and I'm grinning just
> thinking about it. Not so long afterward, Willow seems so capable when
> more in her element, talking to a wild-eyed Tara about planning, even
> when the plan she's proposing involves running and screaming.
> Perhaps Mrs. Quality's favorite bit of the episode is "ooh, check
> me out, I'm wicked cool, I'm five by five." "Five what by five
> what?" "See, that's the thing! No one knows!" (it's all
> about the inflections and hand gestures).
>
> When I rewatch the series, I'll have to keep count of the appearances
> of the WillowHats.
>
> His best efforts notwithstanding, Spike can't seem to shake people
> not only not fearing him, but expecting him to be one of the good guys.
> His one scene reminds us that Petrie still seems to treat Xander (and
> Giles to a lesser extent) as bumbling comic relief, more so than I'd
> like. But at least Xander gets "I'd hate to see the pursuit of a
> homicidal lunatic get in the way of pursuing a homicidal lunatic" and
> "one word: evil" this time. Also looking for the chip in Riley's
> brain, since that's not only funny but also sets up another little
> scene later.
>
> Faith gets herself a new weapon of sorts courtesy of Wilkins reaching
> out from beyond the grave from right before the end of last season.
> Making a videotape like this sounds like just the kind of thing we'd
> expect from him. He's still magnetic, reminding us of a time when
> the whole show was a little better. It's captivating to watch him
> switch between capable authoritarianism, good-humored lame jokes, and
> regretful sincerity. He makes Faith feel special, then hits her with
> how alone she is, as he skillfully manipulates his protégé into one
> more suicide run, or so it seems.
Suicide run? I never saw that. It may simply be "it's too early for
an apocalypse".
> The confrontation between Faith and Joyce is another one of the
> episode's highlights.
Punching Joyce in the face. NOW THAT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG! God I miss
Faith.
Joyce seems convincingly alone, far from help.
And interesting how even though she was not tied up, the danger with F
is just as real, and probably imminent, than with Kralik.
> Add the moment of silence at the "obvious" cue for Buffy to come
> crashing in, so she can make her entrance a few minutes later. Faith
> is saying enough things that're too true to be brushed aside, but Mom
> at least appears to have her priorities straight. Two nice lines from
> her, but they're all in the delivery: "Were you going to slit my
> throat anytime soon?" and "hi, honey." I feel like Faith may
> have unwittingly handed her the clue to deciphering what was really
> happening at the very end - we shall soon see.
Faith's little speech actually says it all. Sinking (into her own
grave), Alone (without the Mayor, Family or Friends, Forgotten (as she
lay in a coma). But the real question is, Is this how psychos are
made? The answer is no. As I've said before, I've come to the
conclusion that she knows exactly what she's doing. It's her choice to
be as she is. Faith seems to be perfectly content to stay there.
Sinking. Alone and Forgotten.
> Slayerbash Pt. IV has a little too much girly namecalling and silly use
> of props (sliding down the stairs? C'mon...) for my taste. Credit
> for "Did it ever occur to you, Faith, that the reason we all forgot
> you is because we wanted to?" at least. Lots of good lines this
> week, huh?
Watching F and B beating the crap out of each other is always fun, but
for the first time I felt myself actually feeling sorry for the house.
"No!!! No!!! Not the Bookcase. Watch the Table. Ohhhhh!" I sure hope
the stunt doubles got hazard pay. The body switch at the end was a
nice twist, but the Psycho look at the end just didn't do it for me.
Cutting in the middle to Giles and the Ominous Team.....I can actually
go either way.
> And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> can I?
> One-sentence summary: Best episode in months, just a tick or two shy of
> Excellent.
> 15) "This Year's Girl" - Good]
I can live with that.
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Nor was she exactly overjoyed by Xander's lustful/romantic
feelings toward Buffy, though fortunately for Willow the
feelings were not mutual.
Jeff
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<excerpt adapted from http://bdb.vrya.net/bdb/clip.php?clip=1483>
Evil WILLOW (coaxing): What do you say?
[Words cannot possibly capture the next little scene as she slurps on
Willow's neck ... Re-watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7da1d5MPK7A]
Evil WILLOW (enticingly): Wanna be bad?
WILLOW (completely unnerved): This just can't get more disturbing. Ack! Ew!
No more! You're really starting to freak me out!
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>
> Arbitrar Of Quality wrote:
>
> > Season Four, Episode 15: "This Year's Girl"
> > (or "Five by five/hands of... uh, jive?")
>
> Heh.
>
> > The shared Slayerdream would seem to imply a continuation of the
> > somewhat reserved friendship between Slayers seen in GD2, but we then
> > see that some of the visions of Buffy aren't so benign.
>
> I have to quibble with this -- these seem to be strictly Faith's
> dreams. There was no indication that Buffy was sharing them that I
> could see.
>
> > Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
>
> My guess would be the police. Buffy seemed to be answering a question
> about whether she knew where Faith was. The police had questioned
> both Buffy and Faith before, remember, so they knew that they knew each
> other. It is just a theory, though. The shooting script doesn't say
> who called her.
>
> > me out, I'm wicked cool, I'm five by five." "Five what by five
> > what?" "See, that's the thing! No one knows!" (it's all
> > about the inflections and hand gestures).
>
>
> > When I rewatch the series, I'll have to keep count of the appearances
> > of the WillowHats.
>
>
> > out from beyond the grave from right before the end of last season.
> > Making a videotape like this sounds like just the kind of thing we'd
> > expect from him. He's still magnetic, reminding us of a time when
> > the whole show was a little better.
>
>
> > And as for our cliffhanger? On the one hand, body-switching is so
> > stock-fantasy. Seems kinda like a cheap stunt. On the other hand,
> > it's less random given the nature of past interactions between the
> > two characters, and it did indeed make me want to watch "Who Are
> > You?" as soon as possible, so I can't criticize it too much, now
> > can I?
>
> Plus, Whedon and Co. have a habit of taking stock fantasy tropes and
> finding new life in them.
>
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>
> > Um, so who calls Buffy to tell her about Faith? I don't get that.
>
> That bothers me too. The best I can think of is the police alerting her.
> But every time I imagine what would have led to that I keep running into
> complications. (Why call Giles looking for Buffy? Why would the police
> think Buffy needed special warning without them knowing things like Buffy
> putting the knife in her to begin with?) On the other hand, the episode
> does need to get the news out. And doing it without explanation may have
> fewer problems (and be less boring) than constructing an explanation.
>
>
their "informant" who called Buffy first, or just one of the hospital's
other nurses on regular duties. I tend to think the latter, assuming that
Buffy had visited the unconscious Faith in the hospital many times and had
gotten to know the nurses pretty well. Perhaps Buffy had listed herself as
Faith's local family contact person? It seems reasonable to think that the
hospital would call the patient's "family" right away when the patient
suddenly woke up (and walked away) from her coma.
==Harmony Watcher==
One Bit Shy
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Family contact. I like that. They probably would have had to finesse the
police some on that too. But that seems doable and in the past. It's not
like anybody would have stepped up to object.
OBS