Re: How can a vampire drink and talk at the same time?
Dukeabsinthe
As we saw when Buffy Drowned, Angel said he had no breath to revive
her so Xander gives her mouth to mouth.
Ok, if Vampires have no breath how can Spike smoke a cigarette and
inhale/exhale? For that matter with out breathing out air over the
vocal cords, you can't talk. Do the vampire talk via magic? Has the
show ever addressed this situation. Your thoughts.
Howe
-While some say that the blood is taken in through the fangs, I think
it could be different. Vampires anatomy could be different than human
anatomy so the pipes don't necessarily have to be going to the same
place. That's my theory. Maybe someone has a better answer. Also I
think it could be different than what the movies say as far as where a
vampire could drink from. Like this page says, there are better
places to feed for better results. http://www.vampiresdigest.com/2009/11/20/how-to-bite-like-a-vampire/
David Milligan
"Dukeabsinthe" <dukeab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bc38d7a7-cfb1-4866...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> Just curious as to what everyone thinks about this.
> As we saw when Buffy Drowned, Angel said he had no breath to revive
> her so Xander gives her mouth to mouth.
> Ok, if Vampires have no breath how can Spike smoke a cigarette and
> inhale/exhale? For that matter with out breathing out air over the
> vocal cords, you can't talk. Do the vampire talk via magic? Has the
> show ever addressed this situation. Your thoughts.
>
> Howe
They don't have to breathe to "live." But obviously they have to
take in air and expel it to talk and to smoke.
Not sure why Spike was in such agony when the Turok Han was
"drowning" him.
>
> -While some say that the blood is taken in through the fangs, I think
> it could be different. Vampires anatomy could be different than human
> anatomy so the pipes don't necessarily have to be going to the same
> place. That's my theory. Maybe someone has a better answer. Also I
> think it could be different than what the movies say as far as where a
> vampire could drink from. Like this page says, there are better
> places to feed for better results.
> http://www.vampiresdigest.com/2009/11/20/how-to-bite-like-a-vampire/
I think the fangs are to puncture the jugular vein so they can just
suck the blood down.
You'd think they would hit the jugular (in the front of the neck and
not the side) more often. Maybe they can still suck all the blood from the
veins in the side of the neck.
--
David E. Milligan
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DavidW
> "Dukeabsinthe" <dukeab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bc38d7a7-cfb1-4866...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> Just curious as to what everyone thinks about this.
>> As we saw when Buffy Drowned, Angel said he had no breath to revive
>> her so Xander gives her mouth to mouth.
>> Ok, if Vampires have no breath how can Spike smoke a cigarette and
>> inhale/exhale? For that matter with out breathing out air over the
>> vocal cords, you can't talk. Do the vampire talk via magic? Has the
>> show ever addressed this situation. Your thoughts.
>>
>
> to take in air and expel it to talk and to smoke.
In that case Angel could have revived Buffy after all. In fact, he would have
been the best choice, since his air woud not have been deoxygenated at all.
Ben Morrow
Quoth "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>:
This has been gone over before. A: CPR is at least as much about getting
CO2 into the lungs as O2, since the CO2 triggers the natural breathing
response and B: the entire scene is *symbolic*.
Angel can't perform CPR on Buffy because CPR is giving life (or rather
breath) and he is not alive. In this one moment when Buffy needs him
(and how often, actually, does she need help, rather than unwillingly
accepting it? IIRC the *only* occasion where Angel gets to rescue Buffy
is in 'Angel' (the episode).) he cannot help because of what he is, and
it falls to Xander, the one who's useless and scared and gets in the way
to actually revive her.
Ben
DavidW
> Quoth "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>:
>> David Milligan wrote:
>>> "Dukeabsinthe" <dukeab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:bc38d7a7-cfb1-4866...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Just curious as to what everyone thinks about this.
>>>> As we saw when Buffy Drowned, Angel said he had no breath to revive
>>>> her so Xander gives her mouth to mouth.
>>>> Ok, if Vampires have no breath how can Spike smoke a cigarette and
>>>> inhale/exhale? For that matter with out breathing out air over the
>>>> vocal cords, you can't talk. Do the vampire talk via magic? Has the
>>>> show ever addressed this situation. Your thoughts.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They don't have to breathe to "live." But obviously they have
>>> to take in air and expel it to talk and to smoke.
>>
>> In that case Angel could have revived Buffy after all. In fact, he
>> would have been the best choice, since his air woud not have been
>> deoxygenated at all.
>
> This has been gone over before. A: CPR is at least as much about
> getting CO2 into the lungs as O2, since the CO2 triggers the natural
> breathing response
Interesting. I didn't know that.
> and B: the entire scene is *symbolic*.
> Angel can't perform CPR on Buffy because CPR is giving life (or rather
> breath) and he is not alive. In this one moment when Buffy needs him
> (and how often, actually, does she need help, rather than unwillingly
> accepting it? IIRC the *only* occasion where Angel gets to rescue
> Buffy is in 'Angel' (the episode).) he cannot help because of what he
> is, and it falls to Xander, the one who's useless and scared and gets
> in the way to actually revive her.
I know it's a silly discussion, but a response was made and I just responded
along the same lines.
Don Sample
Ben Morrow <b...@morrow.me.uk> wrote:
> This has been gone over before. A: CPR is at least as much about getting
> CO2 into the lungs as O2, since the CO2 triggers the natural breathing
> response and B: the entire scene is *symbolic*.
The CO2 thing is a *myth*! Your body is producing lots of CO2 of its
own to stimulate the breathing reflex. You don't want any more in the
air that you're breathing in.
>
> Angel can't perform CPR on Buffy because CPR is giving life (or rather
> breath) and he is not alive. In this one moment when Buffy needs him
> (and how often, actually, does she need help, rather than unwillingly
> accepting it? IIRC the *only* occasion where Angel gets to rescue Buffy
> is in 'Angel' (the episode).) he cannot help because of what he is, and
> it falls to Xander, the one who's useless and scared and gets in the way
> to actually revive her.
Personally, I think he was just too embarrassed to say that he didn't
know how. Even if he has no breath, there was nothing stopping him from
doing the chest compression part. (And actually, that's the only bit
that's really necessary. CPR works just as well, and maybe even better,
with the rescue breathing part removed.)
--
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Don Sample
"DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
> Ben Morrow wrote:
> > Quoth "DavidW" <n...@email.provided>:
> >> David Milligan wrote:
> >>> "Dukeabsinthe" <dukeab...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:bc38d7a7-cfb1-4866...@v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> Just curious as to what everyone thinks about this.
> >>>> As we saw when Buffy Drowned, Angel said he had no breath to revive
> >>>> her so Xander gives her mouth to mouth.
> >>>> Ok, if Vampires have no breath how can Spike smoke a cigarette and
> >>>> inhale/exhale? For that matter with out breathing out air over the
> >>>> vocal cords, you can't talk. Do the vampire talk via magic? Has the
> >>>> show ever addressed this situation. Your thoughts.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> They don't have to breathe to "live." But obviously they have
> >>> to take in air and expel it to talk and to smoke.
> >>
> >> In that case Angel could have revived Buffy after all. In fact, he
> >> would have been the best choice, since his air woud not have been
> >> deoxygenated at all.
> >
> > This has been gone over before. A: CPR is at least as much about
> > getting CO2 into the lungs as O2, since the CO2 triggers the natural
> > breathing response
>
> Interesting. I didn't know that.
That's because it isn't true. Any EMT or hospital is going to use a
mechanical device to push the air, or pure oxygen into your lungs.
Mouth to mouth is only used when you don't have the right equipment.
Ben Morrow
Quoth Don Sample <dsa...@synapse.net>:
OK, well, in my defense I read it here last time this question came up.
:)
Ben
Jillun
> That's because it isn't true. Any EMT or hospital is going to use a
> mechanical device to push the air, or pure oxygen into your lungs.
> Mouth to mouth is only used when you don't have the right equipment.
Cool enough. And they didn't.