Babylon 5 vs Star Trek, Beatles vs Stone, Batman vs Superman, Nixon vs Kennedy, Bart vs Homer
David R. Caldwell
Opinions, opinions, opinions. Everyone has them. They all stink. You can never win
an agruement over opinions, so let those with time to waste and no sense debate them.
Now can we get back to B5 newsgroup issues. (I have noticed one thing, there seems to
be a lot of "B"s versing "S"s. Maybe it is a conspiracy, or maybe its BS)
ECCO/JP
In <31BCB3...@infinet.com> "David R. Caldwell"
This is a strange post. What is the problem with people expressing
what they like better than something else, what they prefer and
disagreeing about it? Sheesh! I thought good discussion was all about
differing opinions... I thought that's was netchatter was all about...
And not all opinions stink...some smell better than others...
Sandra N.
New York
R2Webb
Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
Colin
"Madness, total and complete madness!" - Londo, Severed Dreams
TrueJim
> Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
> comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
Of course they don't! That just shows why B5 is better. :-)
*snicker*
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ECCO/JP
>Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing
>or comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
>Colin
No, because I've grown weary of discussing a deteriorating Trek
universe. And I HAVE seen a lot of B5-bashing by Trek fans, in
letterzines, at cons and a couple of private Trek lists I've been on in
the past.
Sandra N.
New York
Pat Rahikainen
r2w...@aol.com (R2Webb) wrote:
>Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
>comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
>Colin
>"Madness, total and complete madness!" - Londo, Severed Dreams
NO!!!!!
I read nearly all the ST groups and I dont see this kind of
childishness in any of them.
Pat Rahikainen (khu...@netnet.net)
*An ye harm none, do as ye will*
TrueJim
In article <4q9gfn$7...@laslo.netnet.net>, khu...@netnet.net (Pat
Rahikainen) wrote:
> r2w...@aol.com (R2Webb) wrote:
>
> >Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
> >comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
>
> >Colin
>
> >"Madness, total and complete madness!" - Londo, Severed Dreams
>
> NO!!!!!
>
> I read nearly all the ST groups and I dont see this kind of
> childishness in any of them.
That's because B5 viewers generally also watch Trek for nostalgia's
sake, but pure Trek viewers don't enjoy or watch B5, and so have
no idea what they would bash about.
> NO!!!!!
"Ending a sentence with an exclamation point is like laughing
at your own jokes." -- F. Scott Fitgerald.
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Martin Hardgrave
In article <4q9gfn$7...@laslo.netnet.net>, Pat Rahikainen
<khu...@netnet.net> writes
>r2w...@aol.com (R2Webb) wrote:
>
>>Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
>>comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
>
>>Colin
>
>>"Madness, total and complete madness!" - Londo, Severed Dreams
>
>NO!!!!!
>
> I read nearly all the ST groups and I dont see this kind of
>childishness in any of them.
to B5. If one criticised ST on an ST group I believe you would be
told to go elsewhere; any rational criticisms being ultimately
countered by ignorant people who don't know how the caps lock key
is disabled.
The quality of the arguments in B5 groups is much higher, partly
because the background is so well done that one can argue without the
whole thing falling apart, but also because there are fewer
people who think that criticism of the subject of the newsgroup
is an act of heresy that should be punished by burning at the stake.
IMHO. So there.
--
Martin Hardgrave
Turnpike evaluation. For Turnpike information, mailto:in...@turnpike.com
Pat Rahikainen
Jim;
I happen to be one of the seemingly few people around who actually
enjoy both ST (all variations) AND Bab5.
A question? why are you dissing me for answering a question that
someone asked?
Oh, and I could give a fig about what F. Scott thinks of my use of
apostrophes to make a point emphatic.
David R. Caldwell
The arrogance of some people in this news groug is astounding. Any well written
criticism, constructively done of either show is acceptable. Yet even this is opinion.
No one is saying that type of criticism is bad. It is just the maturity (or lack
thereof) that is most irrating. The whole point of this thread is to lighten up.
Who or what is *better* is an opinion. Not a fact. Statisically speaking, 25% of
the TV viewing population probably thinks both shows are garbage. Some of those
people could probably publish very well written essays on that opinion. Do you want
to hear that. Why? Because it is a waste of time! Lighten up, life is too
short.
Dave Caldwell
dcal...@infinet.com
TrueJim wrote:
>
> In article <4q3prj$4...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, r2w...@aol.com (R2Webb) wrote:
>
> > Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
> > comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
>
> Of course they don't! That just shows why B5 is better. :-)
>
> *snicker*
>
RmadlloLvr
TrueJim
khu...@netnet.net (Pat Rahikainen) wrote:
> I happen to be one of the seemingly few people around who actually
> enjoy both ST (all variations) AND Bab5.
>
> A question? why are you dissing me for answering a question that
> someone asked?
Well, let's go back and read what you wrote, shall we?
> In article <4q9gfn$7...@laslo.netnet.net>, Pat Rahikainen writes
> >r2w...@aol.com (R2Webb) wrote:
> >
> >>Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
> >>comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
> >
> >NO!!!!!
> >
> > I read nearly all the ST groups and I dont see this kind of
> > childishness in any of them.
Here you've decided that all of this Trek discussion is "childish",
but when somebody has the -audacity- to disagree, you decide you
are being "diss'd" and start whining like a child yourself.
I can't imagine why I "diss'd" you Pat. It's a total mystery.
(Duh.)
TrueJim
First I wrote this:
> TrueJim wrote:
> >
> > r2w...@aol.com (R2Webb) wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone ever go into the Star Trek newsgroup and find them bashing or
> > > comparing B5 like some people like to do here?
> >
> > Of course they don't! That just shows why B5 is better. :-)
> >
> > *snicker*
And then David wrote this:
In article <31CA0F...@infinet.com>, "David R. Caldwell"
<dcal...@infinet.com> wrote:
> The arrogance of some people in this news groug is astounding....
> It is just the maturity (or lack thereof) that is most irrating.
> Lighten up, life is too short.
Which makes one wonder who needs to lighten up here.
Pat Rahikainen
Excuse me Martin but which Star Trek groups do you read? They always
seem to be bashing one of the other of the ST series in virtually
every group I read. As for comparisons to Bab5, I have not seen any
but just maybe thats because they are more interested in discussing
something they like than in bashing something they may not. BTW: I see
many of the same people posting in both the ST groups and in this one.
And, one question, to all who have done so, why am I getting flamed
simply for answering a question that someone asked? If no one else
wanted to be civil and answer the persons question thats their
business. I chose to do otherwise and have been turned into a crispy
critter for my troubles.
Pat Rahikainen (khu...@netnet.net)
Martin Hardgrave
In article <4qfrot$l...@laslo.netnet.net>, Pat Rahikainen
<khu...@netnet.net> writes
>
>snip
>
>*An ye harm none, do as ye will*
>
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TrueJim
In article <4qfrot$l...@laslo.netnet.net>, khu...@netnet.net (Pat
Rahikainen) wrote:
> And, one question, to all who have done so, why am I getting flamed
> simply for answering a question that someone asked?
Well, hypothetically, it could be because you decreed us all
to be childish.
Naw...that can't be it.
(Duh.)
The Legate
It's the Wiccan Creed. Kind of a "Golden Rule" thing.
Legate
Pat Rahikainen
tru...@aol.com (TrueJim) wrote:
> (Duh.)
I maintain that bashing something just to prove yours is better IS
indeed childish and it makes me embarrassed to read that kind of crap
on this group. If *that other* SF TV series was never mentioned on
this group like this one is never mentioned in the other groups I
would be more than happy.
Pat Rahikainen (khu...@netnet.net)
TrueJim
In article <4qia4h$s...@laslo.netnet.net>, khu...@netnet.net (Pat
Rahikainen) wrote:
> I maintain that bashing something just to prove yours is better IS
> indeed childish and it makes me embarrassed to read that kind of crap
And I still maintain you're a nitwit. What you call "bashing"
the rest of us call "critique". It's fun, it's harmless, and
it raises some interesting issues.
> on this group. If *that other* SF TV series was never mentioned on
> this group like this one is never mentioned in the other groups I
> would be more than happy
The "Trek" threads in this newsgroup are well marked. If you
don't want to read them, then don't.
Or, on the other hand, you could whine like a petulant child.
(But wouldn't it be simpler to just not -read- them?)
Pat Rahikainen
The Legate <rand...@inlink.com> wrote:
>Legate
Thanks for answering the question Legate. I guess my newsreader
mustve eaten the post it appeared in, at least I never saw it.
To RmadlloLvr: not only is it the Wiccan creed it is the main
philosophy of my life.
Pat Rahikainen
Jim;
As I have said to you before; (several times as a matter of fact)
I am of the opinion that those who find it necassary to point out how
bad ST is simply to PROVE that Bab5 is better are being childish. I
dont mind seeing the intelligent, thoughtful comparisons but that is
not what I am reading in most cases.
As for whining: I ASKED why I was being shot down simply for answering
a question. I personally dont give a fig what YOU think of me.
Now, would you mind allowing me to go on reading in this group without
having to constantly answer this kind of crapola from you everytime I
open it up?
RBowling
In article <4qd6lp$3...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, rmadl...@aol.com
(RmadlloLvr) writes:
>
>*An ye harm none, do as ye will*...Pat, I really like this quote. What is
>it from?
>Rmadl...@aol.com
Actually it is the Wiccan Rede and the very basic tenet and only commonly
accepted dogma of the Wiccan/Pagan religious system.
"I'm sorry sir but my Karma ran over your Dogma"
RBowling