This is the final paragraph of the article, and it made me giggle.
============
13th St.: What are your plans for the off-season? Anything lined up?
Sorbo: I'm still looking. I kind of had a movie that looked like it was
going to happen. I got okayed by the studio. I got okayed by the
director, okayed by the producers, by everybody, and then the star nixed
me at the last minute. I won't say his name, but suffice it to say I
wasn't surprised, because there are a lot of insecure people in this
business, and I think he was afraid I might upstage him to some degree
on the set. [That's] my opinion and my agent's opinion. It's the
business. A lot of actors don't want to work with me because I'm 6'3"
and they're 5'7". That's the way it is. So, we'll see.
===============
--
Regards, Podkayne Fries
"WebTV is for people who think game shows are too hard." - Kibo
So, I guessing that Sorbo will never appear with Pee-wee Herman?
--
Carl cf...@prodigy.net
ICQ #:9262629
Â
October 2001
Taliban Leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar: "The situation where
we are now, there are two thing: either death or victory. To those
who
are fighting and bombarding us, they should understand the Afgan man
is a fighter willing to die for jihad."
Â
June 1944
General George S. Patton: "I want you to remember that no
bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making
the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country. . ."
Â
Or with you!
Sounds like Sorbet has a little ego problem...
David B. <both...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3C70747A...@hotmail.com...
>This URL is going to wrap badly, so you'll need to cut-and-paste it.
>The article has some minor spoilers, but I think they're things we've
>all heard before.
>
>This is the final paragraph of the article, and it made me giggle.
>
>============
>
>http://13thstreet.com/site/common/view-content.jsp?section=Features&id=d494e-b410c-f87f0-d8324&C_N=1700&R_N=9900
>
Heres the one before it...
>13th St.: When it comes to the action and stunts, do you ever say, "I'm getting too old for this shit?"
>Sorbo: I said that during the third season of Hercules! The good thing
>is that, once again, I'm sharing the screen with a bunch of other
>actors. Tyr [Keith Hamilton Cobb ] will have a lot more action next
>season. He's the beefcake of the show now, and I'm just trying to play
>the brains to his brawn. I'll still do some fights, but I think
>there's going to be more hand-to-hand stuff, the Jackie Chan style of
>fighting. It's not old yet for people. And we'll mix in the right
>amount of explosions to keep all the sci-fi geeks happy.
I think he's saying here that he likes the Jackie Chan style of
fighting (yea like Jackie hasn't been doing it for 20 years!) . Is
hand to hand not fighting? But I think that he is the one pushing
this "Hercules In Space Kung Fu Hour!" I saw this comings when Rommie
had BIONIC sound effects! DUH
He thinks that Sci-Fi people WANT the explosions. Now this looks bad.
I don't know if anyone on that show knows what Sci-Fi is! I think
Tribune should hire some Sci-Fi fans for all of their shows, to tell
them their friggin stupid!
I like explosions When their needed.
I like T & A within limits...it's a lot less that they probably
believe! I was happy with the ladies as they were.
I want an intelligent story that is based on what's possible. I guess
looking for that on TV is laughable!
>>[Sorbo] It's not old yet for people. And we'll mix in the right
>>amount of explosions to keep all the sci-fi geeks happy.
"Sci-fi geeks"? Excuse me?
> He thinks that Sci-Fi people WANT the explosions. Now this looks bad.
> I don't know if anyone on that show knows what Sci-Fi is! I think
> Tribune should hire some Sci-Fi fans for all of their shows, to tell
> them their friggin stupid!
Right, it's not fans of sci fi, but fans of *action* that like explosions,
which is a lot of people. E.g., the Die Hard series. But I don't think he's
wrong that a lot of people do like explosions. He's just wrong about which
crowd it is.
Me, I love a well-crafted explosion, with plenty of fire and bits flying.
>
> Sounds like Sorbet has a little ego problem...
What's with all the Sorbo bashing?
If the director and the studio greenlighted him, then who else but the star
would veto Kevin?
--
Stranger- Impulse's #1 fan, next to Max of course.
Sci-fi geeks = all those people who like the show, and who are short, unlike
massive Mr. Sorbo, who's hulking size intimidates 5'7 "shorties" into
dumping him from their movies.
In other words, I dunno. I'm not sure what's going on in Sorbo's mind (not
just this, the whole thing).
>13th St.: What are your plans for the off-season? Anything lined up?
>
>Sorbo: I'm still looking. I kind of had a movie that looked like it was
>going to happen. I got okayed by the studio. I got okayed by the
>director, okayed by the producers, by everybody, and then the star nixed
>me at the last minute. I won't say his name, but suffice it to say I
>wasn't surprised, because there are a lot of insecure people in this
>business, and I think he was afraid I might upstage him to some degree
>on the set. [That's] my opinion and my agent's opinion. It's the
>business. A lot of actors don't want to work with me because I'm 6'3"
>and they're 5'7". That's the way it is. So, we'll see.
>
I can actually see this happening. I'm no expert, but shooting a
film with a tall actor (and apparently most male actors are shorter
than you'd think) is problematic for everyone technically as it is (I
recall a film set in Viet Nam with Sean Penn and Michael J. Fox where
they had to dig trenches everywhere to bring the taller actors into
the shots with Fox. I also notice that Tom Willig in Smallville starts
looking for someplace low to perch if he's got a scene with Kristin
Kreuk that last longer than 15 seconds - she seems really short).
If it were an action movie, I can see a shorter star not wanting to
be upstaged by someone bigger and taller - that only works if the
other actor is the villain.
That's not to say Sorbo doesn't have something of an ego - the
direction seems to be heading to "Hunt sleeps with various babes all
over the universe" since he got creative input.
Emanuel
"Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car;
most people settle for the car." Chris Titus
http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/1966-rolls.jpg
http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/1983-porsche.jpg
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Constantinople wrote:
> spooge...@earthlink.com wrote in news:thh17ukdcokc08ng9ud09ji8jacf376o8p@
> 4ax.com:
>
> >>[Sorbo] It's not old yet for people. And we'll mix in the right
> >>amount of explosions to keep all the sci-fi geeks happy.
>
> "Sci-fi geeks"? Excuse me?
Fine, he chronically misunderstands a significant percentage of
Andromeda's fans.
> > He thinks that Sci-Fi people WANT the explosions. Now this looks bad.
> > I don't know if anyone on that show knows what Sci-Fi is! I think
> > Tribune should hire some Sci-Fi fans for all of their shows, to tell
> > them their friggin stupid!
>
> Right, it's not fans of sci fi, but fans of *action* that like explosions,
> which is a lot of people. E.g., the Die Hard series. But I don't think he's
> wrong that a lot of people do like explosions. He's just wrong about which
> crowd it is.
>
> Me, I love a well-crafted explosion, with plenty of fire and bits flying.
Me too, but an explosion for an explosion's sake is absolutely pointless.
I don't mind explosions when they fit into a well crafted plot - I
positively like them - but when the show just degenerates into 'Things
Exploding in Space' then it's time to jump ship.
Die Hard works because of the good story rather than the explosions. I've
nothing against things blowing up, but anyone who thinks it can carry a
show should be banned from producing.
David Patrick
Actually there are many who argue that fans of "scifi" would indeed like
things that blow up good--while fans of "sf", while appreciating fx, action,
and Splosions, also want characterization so we'll CARE about those involved
in the actions and plot development to appreciate WHY things had to Xplode.
As much as we like sf, there are plenty who like scifi. For every trekker
there is a trekkie (if not several).
-- Ken from Chicago
Lee Ann
>I think he's saying here that he likes the Jackie Chan style of
>fighting (yea like Jackie hasn't been doing it for 20 years!) .
Chan has always done his own stunts, and continues to do so. Does
Sorbet do his own stunts?
>What's with all the Sorbo bashing?
It amuses us. Sorbet has shown that he has all the intelligence of a
small soap dish. We can't do anything about ANDROMEDA's horrible
changes, but we can all amuse ourselves by making fun of someone who's
so deeply stupid.
I wonder what Sorbet will do in a few years when his age really starts
to show? He can't rely on his looks forever.
>> >>[Sorbo] It's not old yet for people. And we'll mix in the right
>> >>amount of explosions to keep all the sci-fi geeks happy.
>>
>> "Sci-fi geeks"? Excuse me?
I knew that everyone would just be *thrilled* to read that part. OTOH, I
guess we can't accuse him of sucking up to his fan base, huh?
>Sci-fi geeks = all those people who like the show, and who are short, unlike
>massive Mr. Sorbo, who's hulking size intimidates 5'7 "shorties" into
>dumping him from their movies.
Tom Cruise and Sly Stone are only about 5'6"-5'8" or so (with lifts,
it's rumored) and they manage to get by. I've posted this over in the
gossip groups and hopefully, someone over there will be able to tell us
who the short star is.
>In other words, I dunno. I'm not sure what's going on in Sorbo's mind (not
>just this, the whole thing).
I'd say "very little". If you would peer into one of his ears, I'm
guessing that you'd see an itty bitty sign that says "This Space For
Rent".
790 wrote:
Herbie, bedtime for you. Now leave us grownup's alone.
fr...@fairfieldi.com (Podkayne Fries) wrote:
>Chan has always done his own stunts, and continues to do so. Does
>Sorbet do his own stunts?
Sorbo still does all his own stunts just as much as Chan does :)
Note that this isn't a rip at Chan, or even Sorbo, the marquee actor
in the piece not doing the most dangerous stunts does not indicate a
lack of manhood, or skill, just simple intelligence on the part of the
production company.
While PR pretty much requires that Chan say he still does everything
(and there is no question that he is capable of doing everything),
once the money involved in each movie gets into the tens and hundreds
of millions, underwriting costs would guarantee that due caution with
your star will be followed.
The same is true, as an example, with Sammo Hung on Martial Law. The
problem with that series was not that they used a double for Hung in
different scenes. Even though both Chan and Hung were legendary Hong
Kong stuntmen, and two of the best martial arts choreographers ever,
once your name comes ahead of the title, you can no longer be risked
in that manner.
Or to bring it back on topic, the problem with Andromeda is not
Sorbo's execution (or being doubled) in the fight scenes.
--
I have a theory
It could be bunnies
>>spooge...@earthlink.com wrote:
>>>I think he's saying here that he likes the Jackie Chan style of
>>>fighting (yea like Jackie hasn't been doing it for 20 years!) .
>
>fr...@fairfieldi.com (Podkayne Fries) wrote:
>>Chan has always done his own stunts, and continues to do so. Does
>>Sorbet do his own stunts?
>
>Sorbo still does all his own stunts just as much as Chan does :)
>
Please do not ruin a perfectly good snarky rant with facts. You are
*no* fun.
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 03:09:56 GMT, fr...@fairfieldi.com (Podkayne Fries)
> wrote:
>
> > 13th St.: What are your plans for the off-season? Anything lined up?
> >
> > Sorbo: I'm still looking. I kind of had a movie that looked like it was
> > going to happen. I got okayed by the studio. I got okayed by the
> > director, okayed by the producers, by everybody, and then the star nixed
> > me at the last minute. I won't say his name, but suffice it to say I
> > wasn't surprised, because there are a lot of insecure people in this
> > business, and I think he was afraid I might upstage him to some degree
> > on the set. [That's] my opinion and my agent's opinion. It's the
> > business. A lot of actors don't want to work with me because I'm 6'3"
> > and they're 5'7". That's the way it is. So, we'll see.
>
> I can actually see this happening. I'm no expert, but shooting a film with
> a tall actor (and apparently most male actors are shorter than you'd
> think) is problematic for everyone technically as it is (I recall a film
> set in Viet Nam with Sean Penn and Michael J. Fox where they had to dig
> trenches everywhere to bring the taller actors into the shots with Fox. I
> also notice that Tom Willig in Smallville starts looking for someplace low
> to perch if he's got a scene with Kristin Kreuk that last longer than 15
> seconds - she seems really short).
Can you imagine the work they must have to do on SMG to prevent Buffy
from looking like a midget? I mean what is she, 5'3"? She's got to be
inches shorter than everyone else on the show, and yet it's never really
obvious.
--
Aaron Davies
aa...@avalon.pascal-central.com
sig coming Soon(tm)
> "Hunt sleeps with various babes all
> over the universe" since he got creative input.
Well, it is Star Trek, after all; he is just following in the sticky
footprints left by Captain Kirk.
Actually I think Hunt is followign in the sticky footsteps of
Futurama's Captain Zapp Branningan. In fact when I see Sorbo and hear
his cheesy delivery of the cheesy lines, I can't help but think of
Zapp Brannigan.
I think the opening sequence "Captain Dylan Hunt, a HERO" was indeed
cheese-laden, but actual episodes pretty good--especially as they got away
from the perfectly polished image of the first few episodes and showed a
more complex, flawed persona, dealing with situations where he's basically
choosing the least of multiple evils.
Altho whoever cut Rommie's hair and gave her blue highlights should be tied
down and slapped silly, or at least delirious.
-- Ken from Chicago
> I've nothing against things blowing up, but anyone who thinks it can carry
a
>show should be banned from producing.
Coming soon on FOX..."When Things Explode!" Cars! Trains! People!
Puppies! It could happen to you...
"When Things Explode II: Exploding Animals."
"When Things Explode III: Secret world of the exploding hamster."
"Car and Driver: The Pinto."
"Exploding house guests on the next Springer!"
"Dealing with the embarassment of spontaneous human explosion:
Oprah's frank admission..."
"When Things Explode IV: The Deadly Cotton Ball."
"The new arms race: remote-detonated flying monkeys on the next 48
Hours."
"I'm Ed Bradley. I'm Mort Wallace. I'm Morley...*boom!*"
"The Explosion explosion: Are more things blowing up more often? An
in-depth investigative report with war correspondent Geraldo Rivera."
Tonight on 60 Minutes...did this man get away with murder? The
families of his victims say "Yes". An exclusive CBS investigation into the
Case of the Exploding Motzah Balls.
Launching this fall on DishNetwork: The Explosion Channel! All
explosions, all the time!
I smell revenue! ;)
Just a guess, but were you a fan of "When LOX and BQ grills meet?"
K
I don't suppose you play the quake3 mod "urban terror", do you? The last
beta had an "exploding monkey" easter egg. Whenever you start a game you
see the message "loading... Exploding monkey" zip by so fast you don't
believe you're seeing it the first few times, and there have been one or
two reports of player exploding for no reason, while nowhere near any other
player (ruling out grenades as a cause).
> "I'm Ed Bradley. I'm Mort Wallace. I'm Morley...*boom!*"
At about this moment I had to clean off my monitor. Your work here
is done. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
Well there are plenty of hulking sci-fi geeks out there. So I don't
think it's the size of the sci-fi geek that matters so much as his
relative inteligence to Sorbo and Sorbo's relative inteligence to a
crawfish.
> Right, it's not fans of sci fi, but fans of *action* that like
> explosions, which is a lot of people. E.g., the Die Hard series. But
> I don't think he's wrong that a lot of people do like
> explosions. He's just wrong about which crowd it is.
>
> Me, I love a well-crafted explosion, with plenty of fire and bits
> flying.
Not me. I cringe whenever they add lots of fire just for pyrotechnic
value. Explosions should look like serious quantities of explosives
going off, I say, not like small amounts of real explosives augmented
by strategically positioned 55-gallon drums of gasoline.
Sorry, pet peeve...
-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
> Coming soon on FOX..."When Things Explode!" Cars! Trains! People!
> Puppies! It could happen to you...
> "When Things Explode II: Exploding Animals."
> "When Things Explode III: Secret world of the exploding hamster."
> "Car and Driver: The Pinto."
> "Exploding house guests on the next Springer!"
> "Dealing with the embarassment of spontaneous human explosion:
> Oprah's frank admission..."
> "When Things Explode IV: The Deadly Cotton Ball."
> "The new arms race: remote-detonated flying monkeys on the next 48
> Hours."
> "I'm Ed Bradley. I'm Mort Wallace. I'm Morley...*boom!*"
Well done, but you forgot: "Tonight on BBC-2, How Not To Be Seen..."
(snip)
>Not me. I cringe whenever they add lots of fire just for pyrotechnic
>value. Explosions should look like serious quantities of explosives
>going off, I say, not like small amounts of real explosives augmented
>by strategically positioned 55-gallon drums of gasoline.
>
>Sorry, pet peeve...
It's always going to be a failing of TV shows that, even with
ever-improving CGI effects, they can't realistically show high
explosives going off without risking the lives of the cast and crew.
It's kind of ironic that the tight budget restrictions of the original
Star Trek forced them to do work-around that are actually more
effective than some of the stuff they do today; I still remember the
scene in 'Arena' where the Gorn(s) are shelling a Federation outpost.
--
Geoduck
http://www.olywa.net/cook
"William December Starr" <wds...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:a53utl$9vj$1...@panix3.panix.com...
I went through the usual pyrotechnic phase as a kiddie (until I got
hold of some real astronomy books and saw what *really* big explosions
looked like.....) and a good >BOOM< doesn't mean a show is bad.
Unless, the >BOOM< is the only *good* part of it.
> > Me, I love a well-crafted explosion, with plenty of fire and bits
> > flying.
>
> Not me. I cringe whenever they add lots of fire just for pyrotechnic
> value. Explosions should look like serious quantities of explosives
> going off, I say, not like small amounts of real explosives augmented
> by strategically positioned 55-gallon drums of gasoline.
Afraid it's a limitation of the industry- too many so-called 'actors'
have this insane attachment to their lives and limbs. IIRC, there's
*still* laws on the books in L.A. for how long you can set a man on
fire for.
No doubt soon we'll have realistic CGI to make up the difference, but
since organic homo sapiens have such survival issues, they'll have to
use relatively low amounts of explosives, and substitute gasoline and
other flammables to make it look bright and pretty and ever so
shiny.....
Irony time: The old "Knight Rider" once had our intrepid supercar and
its meat sidekick leave a bomb out in the desert. I was expecting the
usual gout of fire and mushroomy cloud- but with no one (or vehicles)
in the shot, they went ahead and used enough explosives to open up a
respectable crater in the desert!!
> Kill off Hunt let Tyr take the Andromeda
Nope. Can't do that. Then it wouldn't be the Kevin Sorbo Show anymore.
Fine. Kill off Hunt and have Sorbo rejoin the cast as Hunt's evil
power-hungry twin brother.
--
Geoduck
http://www.olywa.net/cook
I also like Wire-Fu movies like Crouching Tiger Sleeping Dragon even though
real jumps do not behave like that. I guess that while super-realism can
enrich a movie, it's not required, and other things can enrich a movie in its
place.
If I required extreme realism and could not stand anything else, I don't
think I would enjoy shows like Andromeda.
Ooooh. Or maybe his *clone*!
No, wait, even better:
*Hunt becomes another android replicant of Andromeda!!!!*
Andromeda is so damn pragmatic *anyway*. If Hunt died, she would
want a Hunt-shape so that she could continue to interact with
Hunt's former allies and associates, but as time goes by she'd
give up on being tactful and just say: "I'm a battleship, not a
diplomat! Tyr, let's go and nova bomb something."
And there's all sorts of kinky possibilities that follow from
Andromeda having female & male androids (especially a male she
has the secret hots for). Say no more.
Actually, the best way to describe it is probably as a Chinese superhero
film. I've heard people say they thought the wire-fu in CTHD was just
"so silly," but these same people don't have a problem with Superman
flying around or Wonder Woman blocking gunshots with her bracers. Duh.
--
Steve Hilberg <Necromancer> CCSO Workstation Support Group
<hil...@uiuc.edu> KB9TEV
Member, APAGear CCSO _still_ doesn't pay me enough to
http://www.apagear.org speak for them, so I still don't.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
"As we were forged we shall return, perhaps some day. | VNV Nation,
I will remember you and wonder who we were." | "Further"
> Kill off Hunt let Tyr take the Andromeda on a Jihad against his enemies.
> How about a totally ruthless main character with no compunctions about
> offing anyone is his way. At least it would be different.
And interesting, but they'd need decent scripts. Romy/Tyr conflicts
could be intriguing, too. . .
--
Mary Loomer Oliver (aka erilar)
bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
the habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume
books in excess
> Constantinople <constan...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >I also like Wire-Fu movies like Crouching Tiger Sleeping Dragon even
> >though
> >real jumps do not behave like that. I guess that while super-realism can
> >enrich a movie, it's not required, and other things can enrich a movie
> >in its
> >place.
>
> That's *hidden* dragon. And the action in that movie was supposed to be
> way
> beyond human - it's a fairy tale. And a darn good one. *
It's on my "name your favorite movies using the fingers of a single
hand" list 8-) And of COURSE it's a fairy tale. So is Ladyhawke.
Like the one he played in a couple episodes of Hercules?? THAT would be
fun 8-)
>In article <3c75d443...@news.olywa.net>, geo...@webave.com
>wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 04:26:27 GMT, Ed Reppert
>> <erep...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <Dtid8.51011$B21.12...@news1.rdc1.fl.home.com>,
>> > "rtavi" <rt...@eudoramail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Kill off Hunt let Tyr take the Andromeda
>> >
>> >Nope. Can't do that. Then it wouldn't be the Kevin Sorbo Show anymore.
>>
>> Fine. Kill off Hunt and have Sorbo rejoin the cast as Hunt's evil
>> power-hungry twin brother.
>
>Like the one he played in a couple episodes of Hercules?? THAT would be
>fun 8-)
Just add the standard Evil Twin Goatee, and we're ready to roll...
--
Geoduck
http://www.olywa.net/cook
>Kill off Hunt let Tyr take the Andromeda on a Jihad against his enemies.
>How about a totally ruthless main character with no compunctions about
>offing anyone is his way. At least it would be different.
oooooooooooooooooooo ... all Tyr, all the time.
SUBSCRIBE.
--
Regards, Podkayne Fries
Necrophilia means never having to say you're sorry.
rtavi wrote:
> Pet peeve about explosions-- I pried the door off and pulled a guy out of a
> wrecked truck last month while a crowd milled around yelling "there's smoke!
> It's on fire! Its gonna blow up!) and refusing to get close. I yelled at
> them that cars only explode on TV (where they stuff them full of explosives)
> only 1 young guy helped me while about 6 young strong guys hung back (I'm
> 54) afraid that they would be caught in a fireball like the movies. Vehicles
> will burn and gas will run out and catch fire, but there is no dynamite in
> the average vehicle. I wonder how many people have died because movies have
> convinced the public that there is napalm under every car seat.
>
>
You are one lucky SOB! Because there are situations where cars do explode. If
the tank is punctured in a rollover, or if there is less than about 1/4 of a
tank of gas, and a spark occurs in the tank.
Although not a true explosion, the resulting fireball will consume the vehicle
and anyone standing within 15 ft. Believe me, you do not want to be in that
zone!
I guess maybe it's true: "Fortune favors the foolish".
Next time, take a fire extinguisher along.
--
Carl cf...@prodigy.net
ICQ #:9262629
October 2001
Taliban Leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar: "The situation where
we are now, there are two thing: either death or victory. To those who
are fighting and bombarding us, they should understand the Afgan man
is a fighter willing to die for jihad."
June 1944
General George S. Patton: "I want you to remember that no
bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making
the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country. . ."
> Constantinople <constan...@yahoo.com> writes:
>>I also like Wire-Fu movies like Crouching Tiger Sleeping Dragon even
>>though real jumps do not behave like that. I guess that while
>>super-realism can enrich a movie, it's not required, and other things can
>>enrich a movie in its place.
>
> That's *hidden* dragon. And the action in that movie was supposed to be
> way beyond human
So you're agreed, super-realism is not required.
Many in America weren't familiar with the references in the movie. If the
movie had been set in medieval Europe instead of Asia, then superpowers
would have been more easily recognized as fantasy, ala LADYHAWKE, which also
had dead on realistic drama--except for the transformations.
-- Ken from Chicago
More powerful that a nova bomb. More evil than a swarm of Magog. It's ....
ATTACK OF THE KILLER GOATEES!
-- Ken from Chicago
A bot with the hots?
We saw what happened during the first season, when a captain and his ship
''get together''--she turned on him when he ordered it to self-destruct.
-- Ken from Chicago
> Pet peeve about explosions-- I pried the door off and pulled a guy
> out of a wrecked truck last month while a crowd milled around
> yelling "there's smoke! It's on fire! Its gonna blow up!) and
> refusing to get close. I yelled at them that cars only explode on TV
> (where they stuff them full of explosives) only 1 young guy helped
> me while about 6 young strong guys hung back (I'm 54) afraid that
> they would be caught in a fireball like the movies. Vehicles will
> burn and gas will run out and catch fire, but there is no dynamite
> in the average vehicle. I wonder how many people have died because
> movies have convinced the public that there is napalm under every
> car seat.
I dunno, but -- not to criticize your honest desire to help your fellow
man -- what ever happened to "Unless you're trained for it, don't move
an injured person unless you have to?"
"Unless you have to", generally encompasses situations where the injured
person is actually inside a burning building or vehicle. Well, unless
the fire is so small it can be trivially extinguished, but that's a
judgement call. And while gasoline fires do not generally lead to
Hollywood explosions, they are generally difficult to extinguish.
--
*John Schilling * "Anything worth doing, *
*Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP * is worth doing for money" *
*Chief Scientist & General Partner * -13th Rule of Acquisition *
*White Elephant Research, LLC * "There is no substitute *
*schi...@spock.usc.edu * for success" *
*661-951-9107 or 661-275-6795 * -58th Rule of Acquisition *
And said fires *can* lead to large blasts of flame; as it happens, the
local news here was just this week showing a shot from a DoT camera of
a couple of cars that had collided(?) and were now sitting on the
shoulder on the freeway; they didn't instantly burst into flame, but
at one point something cut loose with a quick blast that reached
across a lane.
Local news being what it is these days, it was one of the 'BIG
STORIES' of the night.
--
Geoduck
http://www.olywa.net/cook
rtavi wrote:
> If vehicle doesn.t produce a good fuel air mixture at first you will not get
> s sudden fireball. A steady, spreading flame will not explode. With
> certainty a person in a burning vehicle will die swiftly if you don't get
> them out. I watched a tanker driver burn to death 20 years ago because the
> flames were too hot for anyone to get close enough to help him. its not a
> pretty sight Time wasted in such an event can have disastrous consequences.
> Sometimes one has to think of how badly inaction can prey on your mind over
> the years.
>
As I said, there are some situations where it will occur. 10 years of driving
tow trucks has shown me that. I've seen way more accidents than the average joe
on the street. Explosions can, and do occur. Any cop, fireman, or tow truck
driver can tell you that.
William December Starr wrote:
If the person is about to become toast, you move him, and fast! Worry about
injuries later.
>> If vehicle doesn.t produce a good fuel air mixture at first you will not get
>> s sudden fireball. A steady, spreading flame will not explode. With
>> certainty a person in a burning vehicle will die swiftly if you don't get
>> them out. I watched a tanker driver burn to death 20 years ago because the
>> flames were too hot for anyone to get close enough to help him. its not a
>> pretty sight Time wasted in such an event can have disastrous consequences.
>> Sometimes one has to think of how badly inaction can prey on your mind over
>> the years.
>>
>
>As I said, there are some situations where it will occur. 10 years of driving
>tow trucks has shown me that. I've seen way more accidents than the average joe
>on the street. Explosions can, and do occur. Any cop, fireman, or tow truck
>driver can tell you that.
Can you move this thread over to
alt.weird.things.to.talk.about
:)
>> I dunno, but -- not to criticize your honest desire to help your
>> fellow man -- what ever happened to "Unless you're trained for it,
>> don't move an injured person unless you have to?" [wdstarr]
>
> Guy was not injured other than cuts that needed bleeding
> stopped. fire was taking place underhood and door was jammed so he
> could not get out. By the time ambulance got to remote location most
> of front floorboard under dash was burned. Leaving him there to
> toast was not an option. Have spent 20 years in a pathology lab and
> have see sufficient burned flesh that I dont want to see anymore.
Good enough. I wasn't there, and my training only goes as far as First
Aid 101 anyway. ("No, _don't_ apply a tourniquet to the neck...")