OT -- Gripe about NBC's coverage of the Olympics

[@gmail.com Zob]

<rant>NBC is doing a less-than-stellar job (understatement
intentional) with their Olympics coverage IMO. Well, maybe not
exactly with their coverage, but with their coordinating the
broadcasting of the events.

Everything is all glommed together for 8, 9 hours at a time on 4 or 5
different networks (NBC, MSNBC etc.) so you I can't record say,
gymnastics or swimming without filling my DVR up with things like
Korean women weightlifters or Montenegro water polo. That means I'm
finding it difficult to find and watch the events that I'm most
interested in. And then they keep bouncing back and forth from event
to event, so even when I DO record something I want to see, I might
have to FF through two hours of a qualifying bicycle race to find a 10
minute snippet of a 400 meter swimming final in which an American
swimmer is favored to get the gold. And I can't watch events live
because different events are being broadcast on several different NBC
affiliated channels at different times with seemingly no rhyme or
reason. It's been very frustrating so far.

For instance, I read online a while ago about an upset in the USA's
women's qualifying gymnastics this morning but haven't yet been able
to find NBC's coverage of that event. GRRRRR.

The other networks have done a much better job in the past of
broadcasting the individual events that are traditionally the most
popular such as swimming, gymnastics and diving rather than burying
them in a mountain of Balkan country playing water polo, Australians
playing beach volleyball and United Arab Emirates in a soccer game
against Great Britain. </rant>

--
Zob

"So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion

[Peter Lawrence]

On 7/29/12 1:05 PM, Zob wrote:
>
> The other networks have done a much better job in the past of
> broadcasting the individual events that are traditionally the most
> popular such as swimming, gymnastics and diving rather than burying
> them in a mountain of Balkan country playing water polo, Australians
> playing beach volleyball and United Arab Emirates in a soccer game
> against Great Britain.

Other networks? Yes, in the very *distant* past.

NBC has had exclusive rights for the Summer Olympic Games in 1988 and the
Winter Games since 2002?

It's been exclusively NBC for the past decade and for the Summer Games
almost a quarter of a century.


- Peter

[mjcic...@gmail.com]

Yes, all that, was what I was trying to say in the other thread.
MJ

[Sandi]

They will probably show the women's gymnastics in prime time tonight.

Sandi

[Ron Capik]

It's a bit like going to a restaurant and having them randomly bring out
bits of your dinner; maybe some peas, then a bit of desert, then a
appetizer,
then some steak, .....etc.
==

Later...
Ron C
--

[Tin@]

That's what I'm hoping for.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 1:42 pm, Peter Lawrence <hummb...@aol.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/12 1:05 PM, Zob wrote:
>
>
>
> > The other networks have done a much better job in the past of
> > broadcasting the individual events that are traditionally the most
> > popular such as swimming, gymnastics and diving rather than burying
> > them in a mountain of Balkan country playing water polo, Australians
> > playing beach volleyball and United Arab Emirates in a soccer game
> > against Great Britain.
>
> Other networks?  Yes, in the very *distant* past.
>
> NBC has had exclusive rights for the Summer Olympic Games in 1988 and the
> Winter Games since 2002?
>

The triple cast was pretty cool that they had going on for the 2000
games.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 1:05 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:

>
> For instance, I read online a while ago about an upset in the USA's
> women's qualifying gymnastics this morning but haven't yet been able
> to find NBC's coverage of that event. GRRRRR.
>

Say what, a spoiling with no warning? Oh well, that's cool if it were
that big of a deal I would not be in a thread talking about the
Olympics. I've been watching most of the coverage and as of now they
have not shown any footage about the upset you are posting about.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 1:48 pm, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes

>
> On 7/29/2012 4:42 PM, Peter Lawrence wrote:
>
> > Other networks? Yes, in the very *distant* past.
>
> > NBC has had exclusive rights for the Summer Olympic Games in 1988 and
> > the Winter Games since 2002?
>
> > It's been exclusively NBC for the past decade and for the Summer Games
> > almost a quarter of a century.
>

> ABC's was always MUCH better.
>
> Long ago.
>
> Susan

Oh yea, I liked Jim McKay much better than Bob Costa.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 1:44 pm, "mjcicca...@gmail.com" <mjcicca...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ditto that...

[Tin@]

Mmmm....desert, I love desert, I look grit.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 2:51 pm, Sandi <sandiwork...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yep, that's the plan but now that Zob already spilled the beans...

[Cheri]

"Tin@" <tinas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:266e82f9-2159-4ac1...@f9g2000pbd.googlegroups.com...

==========

:)

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 3:16 pm, Ron Capik <r.ca...@verizon.net> wrote:

>

> It's a bit like going to a restaurant and having them randomly bring out
> bits of your dinner; maybe some peas, then a bit of desert, then a
> appetizer,
> then some steak, .....etc.
> ==
>
> Later...
> Ron C
> --

I've been to a restaurant that did that and I did not care for it.
Here I am saving room for the good stuff that is coming later and then
when the brought that stuff it was not as good as the other stuff I
passed on, oh well.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 2:24 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:48:04 -0400, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
> >x-no-archive: yes
>
> >On 7/29/2012 4:42 PM, Peter Lawrence wrote:
>

> >> Other networks? Yes, in the very *distant* past.
>
> >> NBC has had exclusive rights for the Summer Olympic Games in 1988 and
> >> the Winter Games since 2002?
>
> >> It's been exclusively NBC for the past decade and for the Summer Games
> >> almost a quarter of a century.
>

> >ABC's was always MUCH better.
>
> >Long ago.
>
> >Susan
>

> Yes... and without the advantage of the latest technology at NBC's
> disposal.
>

I could not agree more, NBC should have shown the opening ceremonies
live but not to beat up NBC to badly at least they showed the Men's
Basketball vs. France live today.

[Tim Hall]

You can actually watch all of the events live on nbcolympics.com, if you
have a cable subscription.

[Tin@]

He hasn't blown HOW they got there.

[The_LA_Flash]

Sounds good, I'm getting fired up for Friday that's when track & field
starts, WOO-HOO!!!
I enjoyed the woman's weightlifting earlier, at no other time can
people get away with talking about a clean snatch on network TV.

[Ron Capik]

Maybe a little rocky road.
My spell checker is about as good
at context as I am at spelling and
poof reading. ;-)

[Cheri]

"Ron Capik" <r.c...@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:BIidnarGiu1bUYjN...@giganews.com...

LOL, "rocky road." Very clever Ron.

Cheri

[Tin@]

On Jul 29, 4:52 pm, Ron Capik <r.ca...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 7/29/2012 7:37 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> > "Tin@" <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

;-)

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 4:37 pm, "Cheri" <cher...@newsguy.com> wrote:
> "Tin@" <tinas49...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

I can only smile too...

[Tin@]

You and crazy shoot up the theatre guy. You're both insane and that's
all you can do.

[Tin@]

On Jul 29, 5:38 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT), The_LA_Flash

> What beans, exactly, am I meant didn't to have spilled?   I didn't say
> anything specific at all.   And I said much less about a gymnastics
> upset than anyone who has a TV, radio or internet doesn't already
> know!

>
> --
> Zob
>
> "So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion

He's just trolling, as trolls do.

[Tin@]

On Jul 29, 6:06 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:30:13 -0700 (PDT), The_LA_Flash

>
> <Phil3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 29, 1:05 pm, Zob <zobva1    @   gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> For instance, I read online a while ago about an upset in the USA's
> >> women's qualifying gymnastics this morning but haven't yet been able
> >> to find NBC's coverage of that event. GRRRRR.
>
> >Say what, a spoiling with no warning?
>

> I didn't reveal any spoiler information at all. Can you tell me, from
> what I said, what the spoiler is?  That there was a gymnastics upset?
> What was the upset?
>
> And the 'upset' I was referring to -- and provided no specific
> information about -- happened TWELVE HOURS ago in London and has been
> reported all day on radio, TV and the internet.  You already have
> access to the exact same media that I do, with much more actual
> information than I gave.

>
> >Oh well, that's cool if it were
> >that big of a deal I would not be in a thread talking about the
> >Olympics. I've been watching most of the coverage and as of now they
> >have not shown any footage about the upset you are posting about.
>

> WHich is exactly what this thread and my complaint was about in the
> first place. Something significant happens in the Olympics, and NBC
> pretends that nothing had occurred.  Evidently to force people to
> watch their prime time show and sit through stuff we don't want to
> watch in order to see it.  We have to read about it online or hear
> about it on another channel's tv news or on the radio.

>
> --
> Zob
>
> "So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion

Don't let him troll you.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 5:38 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT), The_LA_Flash

> What beans, exactly, am I meant didn't to have spilled?   I didn't say
> anything specific at all.   And I said much less about a gymnastics
> upset than anyone who has a TV, radio or internet doesn't already
> know!
>

I have seen the error of my ways, you made another good point.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 6:06 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:30:13 -0700 (PDT), The_LA_Flash

>
> <Phil3...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Jul 29, 1:05 pm, Zob <zobva1    @   gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> For instance, I read online a while ago about an upset in the USA's
> >> women's qualifying gymnastics this morning but haven't yet been able
> >> to find NBC's coverage of that event. GRRRRR.
>
> >Say what, a spoiling with no warning?
>

> I didn't reveal any spoiler information at all. Can you tell me, from
> what I said, what the spoiler is?  That there was a gymnastics upset?
> What was the upset?
>
> And the 'upset' I was referring to -- and provided no specific
> information about -- happened TWELVE HOURS ago in London and has been
> reported all day on radio, TV and the internet.  You already have
> access to the exact same media that I do, with much more actual
> information than I gave.
>

> >Oh well, that's cool if it were
> >that big of a deal I would not be in a thread talking about the
> >Olympics. I've been watching most of the coverage and as of now they
> >have not shown any footage about the upset you are posting about.
>

> WHich is exactly what this thread and my complaint was about in the
> first place. Something significant happens in the Olympics, and NBC
> pretends that nothing had occurred.  Evidently to force people to
> watch their prime time show and sit through stuff we don't want to
> watch in order to see it.  We have to read about it online or hear
> about it on another channel's tv news or on the radio.
>

Upon further review I stand corrected, good point Zob.

[Tin@]

ass kisser, brown noser.

[Peter Lawrence]

On 7/29/12 5:45 PM, Zob wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:45:34 -0700, Tim Hall

>>
>> You can actually watch all of the events live on nbcolympics.com, if you
>> have a cable subscription.
>

> That's what I thought... but they've rigged it to black out the
> popular events until after they've aired. I tried all day to watch
> the video of the first round of women's all around gymnastics, which
> took place this morning in real time. It keeps saying "video not yet
> available." And of course, it's about time for it to be shown on
> NBC's evening coverage now on TV. I 've been sitting through
> synchronized diving (whatever the point of that is) and swimming
> (without Americans in many events) etc., waiting for it. I guess this
> is NBC's way of forcing viewership so they can brag about ratings to
> advertisers?

I think NBC allows one to watch events *LIVE* as they are happening on
NBCOlympics.com, but once the event is over they won't post the reply of it
until *after* the event is broadcast on NBC (or one of its cable channels).
So you either have to watch it live on nbcolympics.com or wait for the
broadcast of the event.

There's no in-between.


- Peter

[Tin@]

ass kisser brown noser

[darkst...@gmail.com]

And here's the kicker:

Anyone who has "unplugged" loses all rights in the US to legally watch the Olympics without going somewhere and having the USA nationalistic cheerleading rammed down your throat with a fucking spiked sledgehammer.

To access the live feeds, you have to have a username/password from your cable company, and that cable company has to carry MSNBC and CNBC.

It's effectively pay-for-view.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:32:32 PM UTC-7, The_LA_Flash wrote:

> Oh yea, I liked Jim McKay much better than Bob Costas.

Bob Costas might be the best we have today.

Still remember that McKay, when alive, was so synonymous with the Games, that NBC actually made an arrangement with ABC so that McKay could come over to NBC to do the Opening Ceremonies. I believe it was Atlanta.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:31:09 PM UTC-7, The_LA_Flash wrote:

> The triple cast was pretty cool that they had going on for the 2000
> games.

I liked when NBC gave the world feeds to everybody in 2008 in Beijing. Allowed me to watch some sports WITHOUT the incessant cheerleading and disrespect.

By 2010, you needed a cable subscription.

Mike

[darkst...@gmail.com]

On Sunday, July 29, 2012 1:48:04 PM UTC-7, Susan wrote:

> ABC's was always MUCH better.
>
> Long ago.

No it wasn't.

One of the most flagrant things I remember was on ABC.

1984. Rowing -- daytime coverage. Forget the event, but the USA was not expected to medal in the final and finished fourth.

The announcer legit goofed and had them finish third.

When they corrected and went back to the studio, the studio host said words to the effect of:

"I liked it better what you said the first time!"

Nationalistic bullshit.

Mike

[BTR1701]

In article <6vlb18lc3pr197eq7...@4ax.com>,

Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:45:34 -0700, Tim Hall

> That's what I thought... but they've rigged it to black out the
> popular events until after they've aired. I tried all day to watch
> the video of the first round of women's all around gymnastics, which
> took place this morning in real time. It keeps saying "video not yet
> available." And of course, it's about time for it to be shown on
> NBC's evening coverage now on TV. I 've been sitting through
> synchronized diving (whatever the point of that is) and swimming
> (without Americans in many events) etc., waiting for it. I guess this
> is NBC's way of forcing viewership so they can brag about ratings to

> advertisers? Making us sit through stuff we don't want to watch in
> order to get to the things we do?

And yet these networks execs constantly scratch their heads and can't
figure out why people pirate their stuff.

[The_LA_Flash]

...That’s what happens when NBC spends 1 Billion dollars for the
rights to broadcast the Olympics, they got to try to regain that money
back somehow and that’s why they are holding out for the highest
possible ratings by showing it at night.

[The_LA_Flash]

On Jul 29, 10:33 pm, darkstar7...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 29, 2012 4:32:32 PM UTC-7, The_LA_Flash wrote:
> > Oh yea, I liked Jim McKay much better than Bob Costas.
>
> Bob Costas might be the best we have today.
>

I like Dan Patrick any day of the week over Bob Costas.

[The_LA_Flash]

in 2016, when Rio has the games it should not be as bad since they are
almost in the same time zone as the East coast.

[Moni]

"Zob" <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6vlb18lc3pr197eq7...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:45:34 -0700, Tim Hall

> <ihat...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 7/29/2012 4:33 PM, The_LA_Flash wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 2:24 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:48:04 -0400, Susan <su...@nothanks.org> wrote:
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/29/2012 4:42 PM, Peter Lawrence wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Other networks? Yes, in the very *distant* past.
>>>>
>>>>>> NBC has had exclusive rights for the Summer Olympic Games in 1988 and
>>>>>> the Winter Games since 2002?
>>>>
>>>>>> It's been exclusively NBC for the past decade and for the Summer
>>>>>> Games
>>>>>> almost a quarter of a century.
>>>>
>>>>> ABC's was always MUCH better.
>>>>
>>>>> Long ago.
>>>>
>>>>> Susan
>>>>
>>>> Yes... and without the advantage of the latest technology at NBC's
>>>> disposal.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I could not agree more, NBC should have shown the opening ceremonies
>>> live but not to beat up NBC to badly at least they showed the Men's
>>> Basketball vs. France live today.
>>>
>>

>>You can actually watch all of the events live on nbcolympics.com, if you
>>have a cable subscription.
>
> That's what I thought... but they've rigged it to black out the
> popular events until after they've aired. I tried all day to watch
> the video of the first round of women's all around gymnastics, which
> took place this morning in real time. It keeps saying "video not yet
> available." And of course, it's about time for it to be shown on
> NBC's evening coverage now on TV. I 've been sitting through
> synchronized diving (whatever the point of that is) and swimming
> (without Americans in many events) etc., waiting for it. I guess this
> is NBC's way of forcing viewership so they can brag about ratings to

> advertisers? Making us sit through stuff we don't want to watch in
> order to get to the things we do?
>

> --
> Zob
>
> "So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion
>

I just got through watching the live, complete stream on the cross country
equestrian 3 day event. Wow! Now *this* is the way to watch the Olympics.
I'm hooked now! :)
--
Moni

If the horse is dead...dismount.

[Moni]

"Zob" <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote in message

news:dkib18hg8knbh8t2n...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT), The_LA_Flash
> <Phil...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jul 29, 2:51 pm, Sandi <sandiwork...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> On Jul 29, 4:05 pm, Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > For instance, I read online a while ago about an upset in the USA's
>>> > women's qualifying gymnastics this morning but haven't yet been able
>>> > to find NBC's coverage of that event. GRRRRR.
>>>
>>> > The other networks have done a much better job in the past of
>>> > broadcasting the individual events that are traditionally the most
>>> > popular such as swimming, gymnastics and diving rather than burying
>>> > them in a mountain of Balkan country playing water polo, Australians
>>> > playing beach volleyball and United Arab Emirates in a soccer game
>>> > against Great Britain. </rant>
>>>

>>> > --
>>> > Zob
>>>
>>> > "So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion
>>>

>>> They will probably show the women's gymnastics in prime time tonight.
>>>
>>> Sandi
>>
>>Yep, that's the plan but now that Zob already spilled the beans...
>
> What beans, exactly, am I meant didn't to have spilled? I didn't say
> anything specific at all. And I said much less about a gymnastics
> upset than anyone who has a TV, radio or internet doesn't already
> know!
>

> --
> Zob
>
> "So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion
>

Yup. It's a pretty safe bet that there will always be an upset about
something in the Olympics, isn't there? :)

[Moni]

"Ron Capik" <r.c...@verizon.net> wrote in message

news:8qednRKm-5nHK4jN...@giganews.com...

> On 7/29/2012 4:05 PM, Zob wrote:
>>
>> <rant>NBC is doing a less-than-stellar job (understatement
>> intentional) with their Olympics coverage IMO. Well, maybe not
>> exactly with their coverage, but with their coordinating the
>> broadcasting of the events.
>>
>> Everything is all glommed together for 8, 9 hours at a time on 4 or 5
>> different networks (NBC, MSNBC etc.) so you I can't record say,
>> gymnastics or swimming without filling my DVR up with things like
>> Korean women weightlifters or Montenegro water polo. That means I'm
>> finding it difficult to find and watch the events that I'm most
>> interested in. And then they keep bouncing back and forth from event
>> to event, so even when I DO record something I want to see, I might
>> have to FF through two hours of a qualifying bicycle race to find a 10
>> minute snippet of a 400 meter swimming final in which an American
>> swimmer is favored to get the gold. And I can't watch events live
>> because different events are being broadcast on several different NBC
>> affiliated channels at different times with seemingly no rhyme or
>> reason. It's been very frustrating so far.
>>

>> For instance, I read online a while ago about an upset in the USA's
>> women's qualifying gymnastics this morning but haven't yet been able
>> to find NBC's coverage of that event. GRRRRR.
>>
>> The other networks have done a much better job in the past of
>> broadcasting the individual events that are traditionally the most
>> popular such as swimming, gymnastics and diving rather than burying
>> them in a mountain of Balkan country playing water polo, Australians
>> playing beach volleyball and United Arab Emirates in a soccer game
>> against Great Britain. </rant>
>>
>> --
>> Zob
>>
>> "So You Think You Can Dance" Season 6 Certainty Contest champion
>>
>>

> It's a bit like going to a restaurant and having them randomly bring out
> bits of your dinner; maybe some peas, then a bit of desert, then a
> appetizer,
> then some steak, .....etc.
> ==
>
> Later...
> Ron C
> --

........and now I'm hungry.

[Peter Lawrence]

Not really. Pay-for-view has a very specific meaning in relation to TV
viewing. Many boxing and pro wrestling events are pay-for-view since one
pays *extra* beyond their normal cable (or satellite) bill to watch a
special boxing or wrestling event.

NBCOlympics.com is just part of the regular cable package like ESPN, CNBC,
or CNN. A cable or satellite subscriber doesn't doesn't pay *extra* to view it.


- Peter

[Sandi]

Because God forbid Americans might root for Americans...

Sandi

[Bigolhomo]

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 22:25:55 -0700 (PDT), darkst...@gmail.com
wrote:

I'm no constitutional scholar, but I'm pretty sure "watching the
Olympics" isn't a right.