Recap: Finals Week 2 Results, 3/18/2009
Itoshi
Seacrest holds the results in his hand. He says "they may shock you." What
else would he say? "Tonight's elimination won't be a surprise?"
PRELIMINARIES
Seacrest says over 31 million votes were cast this week. Some country
singers are here. SITJ. RCFH. Paula covered her boobs tonight.
Seacrest reminds us that the judges have a save they can use. Again, he
says "there may be a surprise or two."
We see recaps of last night's performances. Kris sounded tender. Megan had
big boobs. Michael had fun. Allison did what she does. Alexis wasn't edgy
enough for Kara. Lil was out of tune. Scott was bland. Adam was
ridiculous. Danny did the second half of his song well. Anoop came back.
Matt was OK.
The top 11 perform "Trouble". The camera keeps zooming in on Scott's hands
to show us that he is contributing to this thing. Megan looks good in
jeans. There are Scott's hands again. And again. They all seemed to be
pretty enthusiastic this time. I didn't see much of Adam. I'm sure he was
up there; I just didn't see him much.
[break]
SITJ = Seacrest introduces the judges.
RCFH = Randy cheers for himself.
[return]
There's a Ford video. They're throwing water balloons at each other. The
song is "Here It Goes Again".
Last week, Jasmine Murray and Jorge Nunez were eliminated. Jasmine cried.
Lil cried. The contestants and their families had dinner afterward at an
Italian restaurant.
Alexis says it's hard to watch people go. Michael says its tough to be
away from his family. Seacrest tells Bruce to take the gib shot so Michael
can tell his daughter he loves her. I'm glad Bruce knew what that meant.
Megan feels better now. Seacrest just said "hell".
RESULTS
CSM&L. Danny, stand up. You sang, the judges said, America voted, You're
safe.
Lil, stand up. Now sit down. You're safe. She's showing cleavage tonight.
Anoop, stand up. You're safe.
Allison and Michael, stand up. Paula, who do you think is in the bottom
three? None of them. "I don't think any of them deserve to be in the
bottom three." Allison probably. Allison, you're in the bottom three. "Oh,
my God!" Allison says. Sit in one of the stools. Those stools used to
represent happiness. They are now stools of sadness.
Michael, stand back up. No one told you to sit down. You're also in the
bottom three. Take a stool of sadness.
[break]
CSM&L = Cue the scary music and lights.
[return]
FILLER
Brad Paisley performed something. I didn't pay attention to it. Country
music sucks.
[break]
[return]
RESULTS
Michael and Allison are on the hook. Anoop, Danny, and Lil are safe.
CSM&L. Scott, stand up. You're safe.
Megan, stand up. You're safe.
Matt, stand up. You're Itoshi's Bragging Rights entry. No points for
Itoshi - you're safe.
Kris, stand up. Welcome to the top ten, you're safe.
Alexis and Adam, stand up. Oh no! Simon's getting a lot of attention right
now. Comments, Randy? It might be Allison. He means Alexis. The person in
the bottom three is Alexis.
The third stool goes unused as Alexis is directed to center stage, to be
joined by Allison and Michael. One of them will go back to safety now.
It's Allison. She's safe.
Down to Alexis and Michael. The judges' save is still in play.
[break]
[return]
FILLER
There's video of Carrie Underwood. Even with all of her success, she still
has time for her fans. That was a corny line, but it was a setup for a
Simon Cowell joke. Now she's on stage with Randy Travis. They perform "I
Told You So". They both sounded good. Carrie can sing.
Alexis doesn't look like she enjoyed the duet that much.
Seacrest asks Simon whether either of them are worth using the save. He
answers yes, one of them is. They would consider it.
[break]
I'm already tired of "The Osbornes Reloaded", and it hasn't even aired
yet.
[return]
RESULTS
CSM&L. Michael, you're safe. Alexis got the fewest votes. Paula CLAS for
Alexis. Simon says Alexis is the one they were thinking about saving, so
it all comes down to this performance.
Alexis performs "Jolene". The judges are huddling together like they're on
"Family Feud". Alexis is feeling the pressure. Her voice is breaking up a
little bit. She's trying her darndest. I have to say, I'm impressed with
her effort. That was quite a bit better than last night, I think.
Simon, what'll it be? He says they're "kind of" unanimous. It was good,
but not good enough. Paula said she has an amazing career in front of her
and CLAS again.
[break]
CLAS = claps like a seal.
[return]
WRAPUP
Next week will be Motown week, and the broadcasts will be Wednesday and
Thursday.
There's Alexis's farewell video. Is her kid's name really Ryan? That is so
awesome. The credits roll as the video plays. Well, it's too bad she's
leaving so soon.
Lorraine G
Thanks for the recap, Itoshi.
Why is it awesome that her kid's name is Ryan?
Lorraine G.
Fille
<snip>
Good job, Itoshi. I enjoy your recaps!
> Alexis performs "Jolene". The judges are huddling together like they're on
> "Family Feud". Alexis is feeling the pressure. Her voice is breaking up a
> little bit. She's trying her darndest. I have to say, I'm impressed with
> her effort. That was quite a bit better than last night, I think.
Hmmmm - as much as I didn't want Alexis to go (and I was actually
surprised it was she) I don't think she did a good job in her second
attempt at this song. But I was assuming she was upset and nervous
too. Poor kid. We did the East Coast live thread again tonight and
everyone in there said they thought for sure it would be Sarver to go.
Who knew?
Ryan
wrote:
DialIdol knew. <snicker>
Ryan
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ATAI Bragging Rights Champion, 2006
zzznot
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I didn't think she'd win, but one weak
song, sung from the black hole position,
and away she goes?
Heck, all the big points are in getting the
ORDER right late in the game, so I didn't
pick up three for Michael today is no big deal.
Oh wait, I have Matt, not Michael? Grrr, ...
after all that judge pimping yesterday.
Anyway, if Allison is already in trouble,
I'm so disappointed I will probably just let
it all ride.
J.
Itoshi
wrote:
>Why is it awesome that her kid's name is Ryan?
I kind of have a thing for Ryan Seacrest.
Mary
Well, when it was down to the two of them, my guess was that Alexis
would be going. Michael's alright - whatever - but I thought Alexis'
performance was, by far, the worst last night. I just thought her
phrasing was all messed up ... just really "amateurish", for lack of a
better word. I was disappointed. That, and I feel like the big stage
kinda swallowed her up - I never felt like she was long for this
competition.
I can't be alone in that, can I???
Mary
alia robinson
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You too? It's something I don't usually admit.
Alia
Mickey
> Finals Week 2 Results, broadcast on 3/18/2009
<snip>
>
> There's Alexis's farewell video. Is her kid's name really Ryan? That is so
> awesome. The credits roll as the video plays. Well, it's too bad she's
> leaving so soon.
In terms of screwing the pooch, this may be worse than LaToya London or
Jennifer Hudson. Someone is going to sign Alexis and take her under
their wing. Not being among the cursed 10, she will be better positioned
and prepared by season's end to exploit her 15 minutes of fame than rest
of the putzes, who will spend their summer on tour doing Disneyesque
production numbers at series of Randomdome Arenas. The camera likes her
a lot. She'll do fine. If Randy Travis has the brains of cockroach,
he'll put Alexis in his carry-on bag and smuggle her to Nashville. Simon
may never recover from the butt kicking he's going to give himself in
the morning.
The Other Mickey
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Rachel
Interesting thoughts Mickey. It will be interesting to see what
happens with her.
Bob Rudd
ito...@no.spam.com says...
> Simon, what'll it be? He says they're "kind of" unanimous. It was good,
> but not good enough. Paula said she has an amazing career in front of her
> and CLAS again.
>
Kind of a pretty cold tease to use "kind of unanimous" and then kick her
to the curb that way.
From pimp spot to not even on the tour, all in one week.
Only one should rest easy.
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mickey_a...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
I agree Mickey. OTOH, I think they got a real scare that Adam was
pretty close to the bottom three this week and that caused them to pull
back from using it on her.
Mickey
Foolish of them. This was possibly the worst week for Adam, genre wise.
With country out of the way, they really needn't worry about him until
week of 5, when they can't use the "pardon" anyway.
The Other Mickey
Bob Rudd
mickey_a...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
I'm not sure. They know the upcoming themes and we don't, for one. The
other is that Adam is an acquired taste and he's not playing well
through large parts of America.
Carolina
> In article <JLhwl.13960$8_3.2...@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> ito...@no.spam.com says...
>
> > Simon, what'll it be? He says they're "kind of" unanimous. It was good,
> > but not good enough. Paula said she has an amazing career in front of her
> > and CLAS again.
>
> Kind of a pretty cold tease to use "kind of unanimous" and then kick her
> to the curb that way.
And a slap in the face for Michael when Simon said that Alexis was the
one they'd thought about saving.
I know he's not paid to be tactful but it wouldn't kill him.
JAF
Mickey
Maybe. My point is that there are plenty of utterly expendables that
could get the boot with no more than a lukewarm (not totally negative)
review from the judges: Michael, Matt, and Scott. Even Lil is not going
to wear well. Adam is probably not in the grand finale. What I'm afraid
is going to happen is a least of two weevils finale.
The Other Mickey
Bob Rudd
It will be pretty difficult to keep Danny out of the finale. Who he's
likely to be up against is TBD. On paper, if he rights the ship, Adam
should be the contestant but he is dropping the ball at the moment.
Judy Haffner
Itoshi wrote:
>PRELIMINARIES
>Seacrest says over 31 million votes were
> cast this week.
Last week there was 33 million votes cast, but there were two less
singers this week also.
>Seacrest reminds us that the judges
> have a save they can use. Again, he
> says "there may be a surprise or two."
>We see recaps of last night's
> performances.
>The Top 11 perform "Trouble". The
> camera keeps zooming in on Scott's
> hands to show us that he is contributing
> to this thing. They all seemed to be
> pretty enthusiastic this time.
I thought it was pretty good...peppy and fun, but my DD watching with
me, thought it was baaaaad, but she's like you, Itoshi and doesn't care
for Country music.
>There's a Ford video. They're throwing
> water balloons at each other. The song
> is "Here It Goes Again".
I always like these better than the group sings. It was funny when Ryan
threw a water balloon at Simon, and it went past him and hit the cute
girl behind him! :)
>The contestants and their families had
>dinner afterward at an Italian restaurant.
I liked them showing the behind scenes after the show, and wish they'd
do that more.
>RESULTS
>CSM&L. Danny, stand up. You sang, the
> judges said, America voted, You're safe.
I was sure he would be, but....one never knows. Glad I took the time to
vote my fingers to the nubbins last night!
>Lil, stand up. Now sit down. You're safe.
>Anoop, stand up. You're safe.
>Allison and Michael, stand up. Paula,
> who do you think is in the bottom three?
> None of them. "I don't think any of them
> deserve to be in the bottom three."
> Allison probably. Allison, you're in the
> bottom three. "Oh, my God!" Allison
> says. Sit in one of the stools. Those
> stools used to represent happiness.
> They are now stools of sadness.
Yes, so very true..they do look sad on Result's Night, when sitting on
stage empty.
>Michael, stand back up. No one told you
> to sit down. You're also in the bottom
> three. Take a stool of sadness.
I'm not surprised, but I was about my girl Allison, who is my favorite
female this season.
>FILLER
>Brad Paisley performed something. I
> didn't pay attention to it. Country music
> sucks.
I love Country, which you know, and Brad has a great voice, but this was
slow and boring as He*l!
>RESULTS
>Michael and Allison are on the hook.
> Anoop, Danny, and Lil are safe.
>CSM&L. Scott, stand up. You're safe.
I'm delighted he made it into the Top 10. Scott adds something totally
special this season...he's been one of my favorites from the beginning
and always will be. Love his sweetness and cute sense of humor!
>Megan, stand up. You're safe.
>Matt, stand up. You're Itoshi's Bragging
> Rights entry. No points for Itoshi -
> you're safe.
I kind of thought both might end up in the bottom actually, but Matt was
far better than her last night.
>Kris, stand up. Welcome to the top ten,
> you're safe.
>Alexis and Adam, stand up. Oh no!
I knew immediately then the 3rd in the bottom was Alexis, and yes, it
was a surprise for me anyway. I had to chuckle at Simon's remark about
Adam's performance being even worse last night, after rewatching the
video of it. RavenLord laughed and said "he sounds just like you, mom"!
Ha!
>The person in the bottom three is Alexis.
>The third stool goes unused as Alexis is
> directed to center stage, to be joined by
> Allison and Michael. One of them will go
> back to safety now. It's Allison. She's
> safe.
Thank goodness!
>Down to Alexis and Michael. The judges'
> save is still in play.
>FILLER
>There's video of Carrie Underwood.
>Now she's on stage with Randy Travis.
>They perform "I Told You So". They both
> sounded good. Carrie can sing.
I enjoyed this...Carrie has a beautiful voice.
>Seacrest asks Simon whether either of
> them are worth using the save. He
> answers yes, one of them is. They
> would consider it.
>RESULTS
>CSM&L. Michael, you're safe. Alexis got
> the fewest votes. Paula CLAS for Alexis.
> Simon says Alexis is the one they were
> thinking about saving, so it all comes
> down to this performance.
>Alexis performs "Jolene". The judges are
> huddling together like they're on "Family
> Feud". Alexis is feeling the pressure.
> Her voice is breaking up a little bit.
> She's trying her darndest. I have to say,
> I'm impressed with her effort. That was
> quite a bit better than last night, I think.
DD and I both thought she did even worse than last night, IMO, but could
have been nerves, and just trying too hard.
>Simon, what'll it be? He says they're
> "kind of" unanimous. It was good, but
> not good enough. Paula said she has an
> amazing career in front of her and CLAS
> again.
I would have been surprised if they had..they'll save that longer, for
one of their "powerhouse contestants" later, if necessary.
>WRAPUP
>Next week will be Motown week, and the
> broadcasts will be Wednesday and
> Thursday.
I missed that about it being Motown next week...so what are some choices
for these Top 10 to take on? Lil and Matt should do real good, but...not
sure about the other 8?!
I wish the President would check the TV schedule at the White House and
have his speeches on "no-Idol nights"! ;-)
>There's Alexis's farewell video. Is her
> kid's name really Ryan? That is so
> awesome. The credits roll as the video
> plays. Well, it's too bad she's leaving so
> soon.
I think so too...I wish she could have stayed longer . There is a
shortage of females this season, and they balance things out!
Take Care & Loads of Thanks!
Judy
silos onit
The first one was extra mean and dismissive; with a look and sound of
major disgust.
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Judy Haffner
Bob Rudd wrote:
>I'm not sure. They know the upcoming
> themes and we don't, for one. The other
> is that Adam is an acquired taste and
> he's not playing well through large parts
> of America.
I'm not so sure that Simon would choose to save Adam, to tell you the
truth, or at least not if he keeps performing as he did this week. Simon
was dead serious last night, and again tonight, when he said, after he
had a chance to watch it over again, the performance was even worse,
AFAHWC. Simon might get out voted by the others about the Veto power
save, and maybe it's my imagination, but Kara seems "cool" towards Adam,
or not as "over the moon" about him as she was at first.
BTW...I enjoyed reading your Power Rankings tonight, and agree with most
of it. I hope that "baby gorilla" keeps on gaining weight! LOL
Judy
fmomoon
> Finals Week 2 Results, broadcast on 3/18/2009
>> on
> "Family Feud". Alexis is feeling the pressure. Her voice is breaking up a
> little bit. She's trying her darndest. I have to say, I'm impressed with
> her effort. That was quite a bit better than last night, I think.
>
> Simon, what'll it be? He says they're "kind of" unanimous. It was good,
> but not good enough. Paula said she has an amazing career in front of her
> and CLAS again.
Wow. I really didn't expect this one at all. So much for many's choice to
be in top four, if not to win. Week two and I still don't have any points
in BR, but at least my CC is safe.
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Moni
ed.
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This show has jumped the shark.Again. They judges have saved their 'save'
for whom? Chris Allen? Gimme a break.
Four new judges needed. Ones that don't hate country music or that are
impressed by what they once did.I'm not impressed by it.
Ed
azurespirit
"Bob Rudd" <bob...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Apparently, he's playing better than Alexis!
azurespirit
You had to bring balls into it, didn't you?
Fille
> Fille wrote:
> > Hmmmm - as much as I didn't want Alexis to go (and I was actually
> > surprised it was she) I don't think she did a good job in her second
> > attempt at this song. But I was assuming she was upset and nervous
> > too. Poor kid. We did the East Coast live thread again tonight and
> > everyone in there said they thought for sure it would be Sarver to go.
> > Who knew?
> Well, when it was down to the two of them, my guess was that Alexis
> would be going. Michael's alright - whatever - but I thought Alexis'
> performance was, by far, the worst last night. I just thought her
> phrasing was all messed up ... just really "amateurish", for lack of a
> better word. I was disappointed. That, and I feel like the big stage
> kinda swallowed her up - I never felt like she was long for this
> competition.
>
> I can't be alone in that, can I???
>
> Mary
Mary - for me Alexis wasn't the worst of the night - that honor went
to Lil Rounds. Of course part of my opinion is swayed in choice of
song and I don't care for "Independence Day" but love "Jolene". I wish
Alexis had softened her version and didn't agree with the judges
saying she should have made it "more dirty". I don't think "Jolene" is
a bitchy song - it's vulnerable, pleading, insecure - I just don't
think Alexis sang it that way, IMHO.
Fille
I know - did he really have to announce that? I felt bad for Michael -
musta made him feel like a pip. :-(
azurespirit
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I don't think so. He knows Simon is not a fan. He's just shocked that he's
on the tour!
Fille
> "Fille" <peacefi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> I know - did he really have to announce that? I felt bad for Michael -
> musta made him feel like a pip. :-(
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
> I don't think so. He knows Simon is not a fan. He's just shocked that he's
> on the tour!
It's like anyone who's a country artist doesn't stand a chance with
Simon, do they?
BTW - I thought Michael did a pretty good job with that Garth song
last night. Not an easy song to sing, IMO and I give him credit for
not screwing up and missing any words.
Bob Rudd
@gmail.com says...
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:49:29 -0800, jhaf...@webtv.net (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Bob Rudd wrote:
> >
> >>I'm not sure. They know the upcoming
> >> themes and we don't, for one. The other
> >> is that Adam is an acquired taste and
> >> he's not playing well through large parts
> >> of America.
> >
> >I'm not so sure that Simon would choose to save Adam, to tell you the
> >truth, or at least not if he keeps performing as he did this week.
>
> week if he keeps performing poorly.
>
>
Danny is the safest contestant of the ten as well as having the broadest
support of any contestant. It would take a miracle for him to be
eliminated anytime in the next few weeks. His cushion is the biggest.
Bob Rudd
edh.@h.ere.net says...
The save is there now for Adam if he needs it.
Bob Rudd
Is that saying much at the moment though? ;-)
Bob Rudd
Ok, I'm not understanding you on this one?
ed.
Giraud. He's the dark horse. See ya all.
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callen...@yahoo.com
> Finals Week 2 Results, broadcast on 3/18/2009
>
> else would he say? "Tonight's elimination won't be a surprise?"
This is when I knew for certain Alexis was leaving. :-(
> The top 11 perform "Trouble". The camera keeps zooming in on Scott's hands
> to show us that he is contributing to this thing. Megan looks good in
> jeans. There are Scott's hands again. And again. They all seemed to be
> pretty enthusiastic this time. I didn't see much of Adam. I'm sure he was
> up there; I just didn't see him much.
I don't know how you could have missed him. I love it that he goes
along with the cheese in such a non-diva manner. Still not as much
fun as last year with Johns, Castro and Cook all romping around the
stage.
> RESULTS
> Allison and Michael, stand up. Paula, who do you think is in the bottom
> three? None of them. "I don't think any of them deserve to be in the
> bottom three." Allison probably. Allison, you're in the bottom three. "Oh,
> my God!" Allison says. Sit in one of the stools. Those stools used to
> represent happiness. They are now stools of sadness.
Allison should not have been in the bottom three. This is getting
weird.
> Michael, stand back up. No one told you to sit down. You're also in the
> bottom three. Take a stool of sadness.
This was the right call.
> Brad Paisley performed something. I didn't pay attention to it. Country
> music sucks.
I like country, but this song did suck.
> Megan, stand up. You're safe.
She should have been bottom three and heading home.
> Alexis and Adam, stand up. Oh no! Simon's getting a lot of attention right
> now. Comments, Randy? It might be Allison. He means Alexis. The person in
> the bottom three is Alexis.
Well, right there we know that Alexis has not made enough of an
impression to be safe if she is the lowest vote getter.
I also think that any speculation that Adam was in danger this week is
complete and utter hooey. And wishful thinking (you know who you
are).
> There's video of Carrie Underwood. Even with all of her success, she still
> has time for her fans. That was a corny line, but it was a setup for a
> Simon Cowell joke. Now she's on stage with Randy Travis. They perform "I
> Told You So". They both sounded good. Carrie can sing.
Dear lord, no. This was the very definition of awkward.
> Alexis performs "Jolene". The judges are huddling together like they're on
> "Family Feud". Alexis is feeling the pressure. Her voice is breaking up a
> little bit. She's trying her darndest. I have to say, I'm impressed with
> her effort. That was quite a bit better than last night, I think.
I t hought so, too. It was more ragged, more filled with emotion.
> There's Alexis's farewell video. Is her kid's name really Ryan? That is so
> awesome. The credits roll as the video plays. Well, it's too bad she's
> leaving so soon.
In retrospect I had to wonder if maybe Alexis had lost her taste for
this. She does seem truly devoted to her child (not implying that any
of the others aren't) and she didn't seem to have her heart in
Tuesday's performance. Oh well, I am definitely sad and disappointed
to see her go, especially with Megan, Matt, Michael, Lil and Scott
still in the competition.
Callen in VA
Cheri
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> I'm not so sure that Simon would choose to save Adam, to tell you the
> truth, or at least not if he keeps performing as he did this week. Simon
> was dead serious last night, and again tonight, when he said, after he
> had a chance to watch it over again, the performance was even worse,
Simon should give it a rest IMO. However, I did love the way Adam took it so
well, just with a nice smile on his face, no scowl or anything like some of
the contestants have done when being critiqued. I think Adam has class,
Simon...not so much at times.
Cheri
Cheri
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> The save is there now for Adam if he needs it.
He won't need it.
Bob Rudd
@j39g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, callen...@yahoo.com says...
> Allison should not have been in the bottom three. This is getting
> weird.
>
There are some very unusual demographic factors at work that have not
been in play before this season. Also, the desire to change the
direction of the show plays a role as well because of the wish to change
the age model of the viewers and voters.
Bob Rudd
He's more likely to need it than Danny. Not a knock on Adam there,
please understand.
Bob Rudd
says...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> zob wrote:
>
> > Danny Gokey had by far his worst week and could also get the boot any
> > week if he keeps performing poorly.
> >
>
> when he tried to stretch this week, he stunk things up. He could
> definitely go home with another performance or two like that. Or just
> by being the same old same old every week.
>
> Susan
>
Danny is the contestant least likely to be booted.
Bob Rudd
You have to admire Cowell's "stick to it-ness." Often he will change
his mind (positive or negative) after viewing the show. He refused to
do so the other night when he knew it would be unpopular with Lambert's
fans.
Larc
Yet he may be among those who most deserve it.
Larc
Bob Rudd
the cited author.]
In article <Qrswl.15988$as4....@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
mickey_a...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
> Solid niche appeal is sufficient to survive the early weeks. Staying
> past week of 6 or 5 requires a broader appeal. It's not clear who Adam
> could beat straight up at this point in the season.
He could beat the second tier folks for sure. Lil or Danny though might
be a stretch.
> It's quite
> conceivable, if up against Alexis and only Alexis this week, he would
> have lost.
I agree. He's the likeliest candidate for a 6th or 7th week surprise
elimination and I though when he was on the end of the line last night
that he might well have been the one called down, as well.
> He needs to build a more general appeal, which I believe he
> can, to survive long-term. Whether he does or even wants to, is a
> different question.
>
> The Other Mickey
>
Here we completely agree. He can do it, I'm not sure he wants to do it
but he's also running out of time to do so because the undecideds are
shifting from "we're open minded about him" to "ehhhh, he's still not my
type and I'm starting to really like ____ more."
Bob Rudd
> > In article <nokwl.12576$hc1....@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> >> could get the boot with no more than a lukewarm (not totally negative)
> >> review from the judges: Michael, Matt, and Scott. Even Lil is not going
> >> to wear well. Adam is probably not in the grand finale. What I'm afraid
> >> is going to happen is a least of two weevils finale.
> >>
> >> The Other Mickey
> >>
> >
> > It will be pretty difficult to keep Danny out of the finale. Who he's
> > likely to be up against is TBD. On paper, if he rights the ship, Adam
> > should be the contestant but he is dropping the ball at the moment.
>
> season, we assumed Melinda would be, as well. We also thought Katharine
> was a lead pipe cinch winner at a similar point in the season.
Very good point, Mickey and it needs to be kept in mind. No one, save
for Carrie was ever a stone cold lock.
> Sometimes
> people don't wear that well on the public or smear campaigns (which have
> already begun for Danny) will take hold and raise a contestant's
> negatives enough to cause problems.
Yes, it's begun against Danny but, past the Evangelical Churches, he's
picking up support from mainstream Christian churches and that has been
unexpected. This is on the verge of becoming a type of red/blue state
battle although in a "you can vote for 120 minutes" way. ;-)
> Next week won't challenge Danny at
> all,
Lil should have the pimp slot and both Danny and Adam should do very
well. Even if either/both don't they shouldn't have to sweat. Adam's
folks will come through after the smackdown he took this week and the
slight possibility he had to face of being in the bottom three last
night, there with Alexis next to him.
> but an American Song Book or similar theme, could hurt his
> credibility.
That appears to be his Achilles' heel.
> Vocally, like most of this season's crop, he's pretty
> limited. Also, regardless of the depths of his own beliefs, singing one
> more song with the words Jesus or God in it could sink him, based on the
> "creepy church guy" smear we've already seen.
There's the rub. Those who "creepy church guy" him are being overwhelmed
now by the mainstream Christians and Catholics who have signed on, so to
speak, beyond the Evengelical Christians for whom the smear is intended.
I'm sure some here will write "I'm religious and I'm all for Adam," and
that's also true. However, the overall demos involving religion are
breaking strongly for Danny and past Evengelicals now and into
mainstream Christians and Catholics. At the same time, Allison is
almost being saved by the most conservatively religious of Catholics
while awaiting the Telemundo world to take notice.
>
> As for Adam, this last week was always going to be a problem for him.
> Being simple and earnest is not his forte (one syllable, please)
<hehehe cannot be one syllable though in response, although I get it>
,
> particular in the country idiom. It was fortunate that country was an
> early in the season theme, so his flip it off strategy wouldn't hurt him
> much. To get to the finale, he still needs to validate his ability to
> perform with a minimum amount of shtik and hokum. R&B night might be
> just the chance for him to loose the affectations and do a straight
> ahead, kick-ass Motown standard in the traditional style. Again, it's
> early enough to survive on his own merit, should it not go as well as
> expected, and then there's still the reprieve, in the unlikely case of
> he needs it.
>
> The Other Mickey
>
I agree with your analysis. I'd only add that if he continues to do it
"his way" for another 2, maybe 3 top, weeks.... he risks TPTB deciding
that he's not manageable/malleable and that could cost him dearly in the
end game with them.
Judy Haffner
Zob wrote:
>Danny Gokey had by far his worst week
> and could also get the boot any week if
> he keeps performing poorly.
WTH are "we" back in Kindergarten again, with the mentality of a 5 year
old... "my daddy is tougher than YOUR daddy, and he can beat YOUR daddy
up?!"
Says you, that Danny had a "worst week"...the majority do not agree, but
if you want to keep thinking that, be my guest...anything to make my
lil' Zobby happy! <G>
Oh, and there is one very significant difference....Simon actually likes
Danny a LOT, and I'm not so sure he is that "taken" with Adam, but of
course with the power of the judge's veto, he could be out numbered too,
if it comes to saving Adam.
Cheers!
Judy
P.S. ANYBODY can get the boot on this show, whether they do good, or not
each week.
Judy Haffner
Susan wrote:
>I agree. He's kind of a one dimensional
> performer, it turns out, and when he
> tried to stretch this week, he stunk
> things up. He could definitely go home
> with another performance or two like
> that. Or just by being the same old
> same old every week.
Now I get why Zob invited you to join in this group, so you could back
up whatever remarks he makes (LOL) but anyway...IF the elimination each
week is based primarily on BAD performances, which we all know it's
not.....then by all rights, Adam should have packed his bags and walked
out the A. I. door by now, after the mess he did on Johnny Cash's
classic Ring Of Fire.
Danny hasn't had a 'bad' performance yet, IMO. My friends still are in
shock therapy after hearing Adam on Tuesday! :-D
Judy
Sanna
> Zob wrote:
>
>> Danny Gokey had by far his worst week
>> and could also get the boot any week if
>> he keeps performing poorly.
>
> WTH are "we" back in Kindergarten again, with the mentality of a 5
> year old... "my daddy is tougher than YOUR daddy, and he can beat
> YOUR daddy up?!"
>
> Says you, that Danny had a "worst week"...the majority do not agree, but
> if you want to keep thinking that, be my guest...anything to make my lil'
> Zobby happy! <G>
If you were to take all of Danny's performances so far, could you rank the
best to worst? Just Danny alone and not compare him to anyone else?
If I were to do that I have them best to worst.
1. Hero
2. Somebody to love (group song Hollywood)
3. PYT
4. Audition
5. Jesus take the wheel.
I think Danny's worst performance so far was this week. He seemed out of
sorts and he even looked a bit sick. He wasn't on his best game, imo.
If you thought it was a great performance, then what performance of his was
worse.....and why?
--
Bob Rudd
la...@notmyaddress.com says...
Ok, tit for tat..... so might Adam. Shall we call a truce here? ;-)
Bob Rudd
jhaf...@webtv.net says...
> but of
> course with the power of the judge's veto, he could be out numbered too,
> if it comes to saving Adam.
>
Judy,
I'm pretty confident when I say this..... no one will either get or be
rejected for the veto (regardless of their "unanimity rule") unless it's
Simon's final decision. There may be four votes but only his really is
counted. Everything else is for show.
Bob Rudd
mickey_a...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
> Ain't language a giggle?
>
>
It can be as long as we leave "The Linguists" out of it.
Fille
> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message
I agree with you, Cheri. Even when Adam met with Randy Travis and
Randy was a little perplexed at his style of singing "Ring..." and the
black nail polish and all - Adam was respectful and a good sport about
it. He may look all "dark and weird" to some but he comes off like a
sweetheart to me.
Carolina
> On Mar 19, 12:59 am, Carolina <scarolina2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 18, 11:48 pm, Bob Rudd <bobr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > Kind of a pretty cold tease to use "kind of unanimous" and then kick her
> > > to the curb that way.
> > And a slap in the face for Michael when Simon said that Alexis was the
> > one they'd thought about saving.
>
> > I know he's not paid to be tactful but it wouldn't kill him.
>
> > JAF
>
> I know - did he really have to announce that? I felt bad for Michael -
> musta made him feel like a pip. :-(
I like Simon and mostly agree with what he says. It's just a matter of
how he says it that bothers me.
I hope Michael stays in for at least a few more weeks and sings
country as often as possible, just to irk him.
JAF
Fille
wrote:
I said earlier (somewhere) that Danny was one of my 3 favorites so far
(w/Adam and Allison rounding it out) and while I'm not sure if this
was his weakest performance I don't think it was as great as some do
either. In reading the list of songs he's done above I think part of
it for me personally is song choice - I'm not a big fan of any of
those he's chosen, actually. I find that this always figures some in
my like/dislike of what a contestant does.
Fille
wrote:
> Bob Rudd wrote:
> > <hehehe cannot be one syllable though in response, although I get it>
> This is a pet(ty) peeve with me, so pardon my filling in the possible
> blank for the others. In English, "forte" (from French), pronounced
> "fort" refers specifically to the stronger part of the sword (as opposed
> to the foible, a word related to feeble); by extension it refers to a
> person's strength in some endeavor. Pronounced FOR-tay or mispronounced
> for-TAY, it is the musical indication (f) for loud, although the general
> meaning in Italian is "strong."
>
> The Wagnerian tenor declared, "Singing forte (2 syllables) is my forte
> (1 syllable). It is a foible that my attempts to sing piano sound feeble."
>
> Oddly enough, the opposite dynamic indication of "forte" is "piano,"
> which means soft in Italian, but has the same root as the English words
> plane and plain, the Latin word "planus," meaning flat. Finally that
> instrument of ebony and ivory we call a piano is more properly a
> piano-forte or forte-piano. Ain't language a giggle?
>
> The Other Mickey- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Someone - hand me the Tylenol! :-)
I am guilty of using for-TAY to denote strength/niche and also in
music.
I was taught in here to use *regardless* and NOT *irregardless* and
would be happy to change my pronounciation of forte as well, 'cept I
expect others who mispronounce will look at me funny. What fort? You
have a tree fort?
Fille
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:42:56 -0700 (PDT), Fille <peacefi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Mar 19, 4:32 am, "azurespirit" <gkn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Fille" <peacefi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> I know - did he really have to announce that? I felt bad for Michael -
> >> musta made him feel like a pip. :-(
>
>
> >> I don't think so. He knows Simon is not a fan. He's just shocked that he's
> >> on the tour!
>
> >It's like anyone who's a country artist doesn't stand a chance with
> >Simon, do they?
>
> How quickly they forget. ;)
>
> Carrie Underwood was Simon's darling right from the start of season 5,
> when he predicted early on that she would "go on to win the whole
> thing." And not only did she do that, she is on the verge of
> surpassing Kelly Clarkson as the biggest selling Idol of all time.
Oh, yer right zob - I *did* forget that. It just always seems to be
this running joke on the show about how much Simon *loves* country -
yuk yuk.
Judy Haffner
Sanna wrote:
>I think Danny's worst performance so far
> was this week. He seemed out of sorts
> and he even looked a bit sick. He wasn't
> on his best game, imo.
>If you thought it was a great
> performance, then what performance of
> his was worse.....and why?
In one of the threads I posted that I didn't think any of Danny's
performances have not been good, so to speak, as to be honest, I have
enjoyed them all to date, but if I had to narrow it down and make a
decision, I would say I loved "Hero" the most, but I still can't say
that any one performance since have been 'bad', and I really thought he
did good job with "Jesus Take The Wheel" too, but will say, it started
out a little blah, and I was worried, he was totally going to bomb out
(not in a good way!) but when he hit the chorus, I absolutely loved it,
but I love that song anyway, and after reading in this group, it seems
many don't care for it in general, even Carrie singing it, so if anybody
sang it (using Josh Grobin for example) they probably wouldn't have
cared for it, don't you think?
I don't think even the most seasoned musicians have spot-on performances
all the time, as for instance Brad Paisley last night, as I really like
him, but that was NOT good last night, IMO.
Judy
Peach
> In article <8jswl.15987$as4.10...@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> mickey_and_ed...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bob Rudd wrote:
> > > In article <nokwl.12576$hc1.5...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> > > mickey_and_ed...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
> > >> Bob Rudd wrote:
> > >>> In article <NDjwl.12575$hc1.10...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> > >>> mickey_and_ed...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
> > >>>> Bob Rudd wrote:
> > >>>>> In article <hRiwl.9967$%54.4...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > >>>>> mickey_and_ed...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
Um, Bob, there are five other Christians in the competition, so I
think you might want to reconsider.
Peach
Fille
> In one of the threads I posted that I didn't think any of Danny's
> performances have not been good, so to speak, as to be honest, I have
> enjoyed them all to date, but if I had to narrow it down and make a
> decision, I would say I loved "Hero" the most, but I still can't say
> that any one performance since have been 'bad', and I really thought he
> did good job with "Jesus Take The Wheel" too, but will say, it started
> out a little blah, and I was worried, he was totally going to bomb out
> (not in a good way!) but when he hit the chorus, I absolutely loved it,
> but I love that song anyway, and after reading in this group, it seems
> many don't care for it in general, even Carrie singing it, so if anybody
> sang it (using Josh Grobin for example) they probably wouldn't have
> cared for it, don't you think?
Heh! I have to say, Judy, that I love Josh Grobin soooooo much that he
might be one of the few (for me) that could sing any-little-thing-he-
wanted while I sat there and swooned! :-)
Fille
wrote:
> Fille wrote:
> > Someone - hand me the Tylenol! :-)
> > I am guilty of using for-TAY to denote strength/niche and also in
> > music.
> > I was taught in here to use *regardless* and NOT *irregardless* and
> > would be happy to change my pronounciation of forte as well, 'cept I
> > expect others who mispronounce will look at me funny. What fort? You
> > have a tree fort?
> You mean like a stronghold in a tree?
>
> The Other Mickey
I feel a groan coming on - good on you, Mickey!!!!!!
Bob Rudd
c00ff5...@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, straw...@lpbroadband.net
says...
I mean from the point of view that Danny is seen as a Youth Minister
rather than a simple churchgoing Christian.
Peach
> In article <b73ab6f6-c982-4bf5-9fd3-
> c00ff58db...@o36g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, strawbe...@lpbroadband.net
>
> - Show quoted text -
See my answer in the other thread.... Kris held the same position that
Danny did. Worship leader. Matt put out Christian music CDs. Not
just simple church-going boys.
Peach
Bob Rudd
@h5g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, straw...@lpbroadband.net says...
Ok, further clarification. Adam is being smeared with a perception that
he is a very far right Evengelical Christian whose religious views and
musical tastes/preferences might mean he would fight TPTB for a more
Christian oriented CD, which couldn't be further from the truth. As the
front runner, he's gonna take the hits that other Christians/ministers
etc. would not.
All this has done, and I am very surprised by it, is bring mainstream
Christians out and supporting him while keeping the Evengelicals as
well.
fmomoon
"zob" <zob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:49:29 -0800, jhaf...@webtv.net (Judy Haffner)
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Bob Rudd wrote:
>>
>>>I'm not sure. They know the upcoming
>>> themes and we don't, for one. The other
>>> is that Adam is an acquired taste and
>>> he's not playing well through large parts
>>> of America.
>>
>>truth, or at least not if he keeps performing as he did this week.
>
> week if he keeps performing poorly.
>
he isn't going anywhere for a long time. Motown week...hmm....I thinking
"Ain't No Mountain High Enough" or "I'll Be There." No, I'm not a fan of
Danny's, but he has a nice voice. We've had winners who were far worse. I
still have no idea how AI or 19 would market him. Bob mentioned a narrow
niche for Adam. I think his is a bit broader than Bob states, however I
suspect that Danny's is even narrower. Granted, we're not typical of AI
viewers (at least Bob says so), but I think I may start a thread simply
saying "In one word: Danny or Adam?" and see what this non-representational
group says.
--
Moni
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
The thread, if answered honestly, would be about 2/3 for Adam in the ng
and maybe as high as 75 percent.
I'm right in that this ng is not representative of the average viewer as
well. I'll seldom say "I'm right" here, Moni and you know that. I'll
argue some things in great detail but seldom say "I'm right." On that,
I'm right.
Adam is a niche performer. He may be the darkside to Taylor Hicks.
Think about that before recoiling in horror at the mention of "Hicks!!!"
Both were/are love/hate types in a season with a largely week field
(Daughtry was never going to win, despite what revisionist history would
say).
Danny can walk right into the Leona Lewis like ballad arena and make his
mark. He can do some pop.
I spoke of viewer age etc. earlier in the season. Don't you find it odd
that in a ng whose average age is close to official geezerdom, the
preferred candidate is Adam? Rememberances of the 80's have been made
(zzzzzz) etc. Yes, a few folks have said their kids love Adam and I
believe them. At the same time, when it's very clear that the last
thing Fox/AI wants is another winner who appeals to the "Murder She
Wrote" crowd (which is what, demographically, many/most of us here are).
Danny may not drop the age a great deal more but he's the first male who
hits true MOR than might win AI. Even if his coronation song (and I
really hate that term...I like winner's song better) was "A Moment Like
This (as was Leona Lewis) or "Something More" (as Ryan Malcolm's was),
he could score very heavily with it and move on from there. There are
many songs that are uplifting without invoking a religious "Christian
rock" theme/reference to them.
We may be debating angels on a pin with these two current frontrunners.
I'm beginning to think they may cancel each other out and someone may
yet emerge, as Kelly did, from the rest of the pack and not only take
the thing but succeed with it. I think the next 4 weeks will give us
the best idea about exactly where we're headed.
Still, there are others who, if they won, might/would skew AI even more
towards the younger ages they prefer. Will they catch on however is the
question?
Jason Wuthrich
> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:56:50 -0700, "fmomoon" <fmo...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>Wow. I really didn't expect this one at all. So much for many's choice
>>to
>>be in top four, if not to win. Week two and I still don't have any points
>>in BR, but at least my CC is safe.
>
> Not mine. I'm the fool who used my one "save" under the new CC rule
> to trade my loss of Jorge for Alexis. Ouch! Somebody slap me!
>
> Oh well, how many more months until SYTYCD starts up again?
You think I'm not looking forward to SYTYCD? I could win the meta-CC and it
will take not take away any of the sting from being the first AICC player
ever to clinch last place just one week into the contest, and it's not the
first time in my CC career that has happened. Fifty-two weeks from today
I'll will be forever outside of AI's target demographic. This year could be
an indication I am losing touch with the show.
--
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- Conrad Ecklie (Marc Vann), "CSI"
Jason Wuthrich
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:45:45 -0400, zob <zob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Carrie Underwood was Simon's darling right from the start of season 5 ...
>
> Oops, that was supposed to read, "season 4"
Didn't you make this same mistake a month or two ago, zob? ;-D
Bob Rudd
tjwut...@verizon.net_spamtrap says...
> "zob" <zob...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3t3s45ikulge74to...@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:56:50 -0700, "fmomoon" <fmo...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >>Wow. I really didn't expect this one at all. So much for many's choice
> >>to
> >>be in top four, if not to win. Week two and I still don't have any points
> >>in BR, but at least my CC is safe.
> >
> > Not mine. I'm the fool who used my one "save" under the new CC rule
> > to trade my loss of Jorge for Alexis. Ouch! Somebody slap me!
> >
> > Oh well, how many more months until SYTYCD starts up again?
>
> You think I'm not looking forward to SYTYCD? I could win the meta-CC and it
> will take not take away any of the sting from being the first AICC player
> ever to clinch last place just one week into the contest, and it's not the
> first time in my CC career that has happened. Fifty-two weeks from today
> I'll will be forever outside of AI's target demographic. This year could be
> an indication I am losing touch with the show.
>
First, what the heck weird demo to you belong to if you both look
forward to SYTYCD and play a CC of it? <evil grin>
Second, as the strongest and most historically successful player in your
AICC, you're so wrapped up in getting it up and running that it prevents
you from doing anything but winding up where you normally do. I'm in an
online NFL pool every season and the guy who runs it, is almost always
at the bottom.
Finally, given your CC1 and CC2 status, you might want to revise your
thoughts about "losing" touch with the show. You may have already lost
it. ;-)
Belated Happy Birthday, btw, Jason. My real best wishes.
fmomoon
"Bob Rudd" <bob...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Danny is the safest contestant of the ten as well as having the broadest
> support of any contestant. It would take a miracle for him to be
> eliminated anytime in the next few weeks. His cushion is the biggest.
> --
> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
You may well be right, Bob, but I just don't see it. I see his niche to be
"inspirational" music and he hasn't done much to prove otherwise to me. He
has a good voice, of course, but not a great one, in my opinion. AI has
made mistakes before in promoting a singer with a narrow appeal. I'm
hoping, for the sake of the longevity of the show, that they aren't forced
to potentially make that mistake again. His "sweet spot" is that gutsy
upper range power note. But I do wish he would show more versatility in his
song selection.
--
Moni
fmomoon
> In article <72ev8eF...@mid.individual.net>, su...@nothanks.org
> says...
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> zob wrote:
>>
>> > Danny Gokey had by far his worst week and could also get the boot any
>> > week if he keeps performing poorly.
>> >
>>
>> when he tried to stretch this week, he stunk things up. He could
>> definitely go home with another performance or two like that. Or just
>> by being the same old same old every week.
>>
>> Susan
>>
>
> Danny is the contestant least likely to be booted.
> --
> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
convinced. The only thing that will prove this to me is if Danny actually
starts taking chances and steps away from the expected choices in music.
--
Moni
fmomoon
> In article <nsu4s4d0u6kub713i...@4ax.com>,
> la...@notmyaddress.com says...
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:55:32 -0400, Bob Rudd <bob...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> | In article <72ev8eF...@mid.individual.net>, su...@nothanks.org
>> | says...
>> | > x-no-archive: yes
>> | >
>> | > zob wrote:
>> | >
>> | > > Danny Gokey had by far his worst week and could also get the boot
>> any
>> | > > week if he keeps performing poorly.
>> | > >
>> | >
>> | > I agree. He's kind of a one dimensional performer, it turns out, and
>> | > when he tried to stretch this week, he stunk things up. He could
>> | > definitely go home with another performance or two like that. Or
>> just
>> | > by being the same old same old every week.
>> | >
>> | > Susan
>> | >
>> |
>> | Danny is the contestant least likely to be booted.
>>
>>
>> Larc
>>
>
> Ok, tit for tat..... so might Adam. Shall we call a truce here? ;-)
>
> --
> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
Of course. The fact is that either of them could go. It is my firm belief
that the save will only be used on Adam or Danny.
--
Moni
Cheri
news:ffmdncJpi8glj17U...@giganews.com...
> Of course. The fact is that either of them could go. It is my firm
> belief that the save will only be used on Adam or Danny.
> --
> Moni
I definitely agree with that.
fmomoon
In article <d7d74bb4-a2a0-4ba0-ab7f-249d6f3106f4
Ok, further clarification. Adam is being smeared with a perception that
he is a very far right Evengelical Christian whose religious views and
musical tastes/preferences might mean he would fight TPTB for a more
Christian oriented CD, which couldn't be further from the truth. As the
front runner, he's gonna take the hits that other Christians/ministers
etc. would not.
All this has done, and I am very surprised by it, is bring mainstream
Christians out and supporting him while keeping the Evengelicals as
well.
--
I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
---------------
:) Do you mean Danny? :)
--
Moni
Bob Rudd
In article <fuWdnTgb0KlhjF7U...@giganews.com>,
fmo...@comcast.net says...
Inspirtational music gave us Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Leona Lewis
(before she started to suck on hardboiled donkey eggs with club trash)
etc. AI has a real, definable market need to have a male winner take
on and succeed with those kinds of songs for the first time.
As for versatility....you never asked Elliott to do that, Monica. The
guy's had 3 shows in the top 12, give him some time. How about Adam
doing something different besides being our version of Jacob Haggard?
Also, don't overlook the rising underdogs and not the ones that are
being touted.
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
Moni, Danny right now could come out, burp, leave the stage and not come
close to being voted out. He could do it two weeks in a row as a matter
of fact. Carrie was the only mortal lock, coast to coast in AI history.
Danny isn't that, not for a moment. However, no one before or after
Carrie, has been so readily accepted and supported by the Heartland of
America as Danny Gokey. That is the single biggest demographic, for AI,
that there is and he owns it. His closest, and currently probable,
finale competitor ranks very low in that demo.
If Adam Lambert did not, essentially, get between 1/3 to 1/2 of his
support this week from your home state, he would have been in the bottom
three or two. That's a lot of AI eggs in one basket.
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
I about 98 percent agree with you. I hedge that if Adam were to need it
the fifth and final week, I'm not so sure as I used to be that he'd get
it....depending on how things go in the weeks to come. Danny, without
hesitation, would get it.
Bob Rudd
fmomoon
Wanna borrow mine? :)
--
Moni
Bob Rudd
>
> "Bob Rudd" <bob...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.242ce817...@news.albasani.net...
> > In article <65-dnVCu28ZaiF7U...@giganews.com>,
> > fmo...@comcast.net says...
> >>
> >> "Bob Rudd" <bob...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.242c95a9e...@news.albasani.net...
> >> In article <d7d74bb4-a2a0-4ba0-ab7f-249d6f3106f4
> >> Ok, further clarification. Adam is being smeared with a perception that
> >> he is a very far right Evengelical Christian whose religious views and
> >> musical tastes/preferences might mean he would fight TPTB for a more
> >> Christian oriented CD, which couldn't be further from the truth. As the
> >> front runner, he's gonna take the hits that other Christians/ministers
> >> etc. would not.
> >>
> >> All this has done, and I am very surprised by it, is bring mainstream
> >> Christians out and supporting him while keeping the Evengelicals as
> >> well.
> >> --
> >> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
> >> ---------------
> >> :) Do you mean Danny? :)
> >>
> >
> > The guy with the glasses.
>
> Wanna borrow mine? :)
>
They wouldn't help.
azurespirit
> In article <nus3s4hihieus3tt1...@4ax.com>, zobva1
> @gmail.com says...
>> On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:49:29 -0800, jhaf...@webtv.net (Judy Haffner)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Bob Rudd wrote:
>> >
>> >>I'm not sure. They know the upcoming
>> >> themes and we don't, for one. The other
>> >> is that Adam is an acquired taste and
>> >> he's not playing well through large parts
>> >> of America.
>> >
>> >I'm not so sure that Simon would choose to save Adam, to tell you the
>> >truth, or at least not if he keeps performing as he did this week.
>>
>> week if he keeps performing poorly.
>>
>>
>
> support of any contestant. It would take a miracle for him to be
> eliminated anytime in the next few weeks. His cushion is the biggest.
> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
>
Well, miracles DO happen. I won't comment on who has the biggest "cushion".
Peter Lawrence
> zob wrote:
>>
>> Danny Gokey had by far his worst week and could also get the boot any
>> week if he keeps performing poorly.
>
> when he tried to stretch this week, he stunk things up. He could
> definitely go home with another performance or two like that. Or just
> by being the same old same old every week.
>
> Susan
Danny will become vulnerable only if and when another contestant rises
up to become a viable alternative to Danny for those who are currently
voting for Danny. I think Kris, Matt, Anoop, or Scott could become
Danny's nemesis for his fans support if any one of them steps up his game.
But they do need to step up their games first on a consistent week in
and week out basis before any of them could become a serious threat to
Danny. Right now they're not.
- Peter
Judy Haffner
Bob Rudd wrote:
>As for versatility....you never asked
> Elliott to do that, Monica. The guy's had
> 3 shows in the top 12, give him some
> time. How about Adam doing something
> different besides being our version of
> Jacob Haggard?
When I read this just now, I started thinking..about Elliot being one
dimensional, his fans didn't seem to go on about him "doing something
different," as they have been on here with Danny, which I find rather
amusing. Also this takes me back to last year, when so many were on here
complaining and gripping that David A. only sang "slow boring ballads"
and he needed "to step it up" and do something more lively to show what
he was capable of. They also "jawed" on that he wasn't marketable and
what would A. I. possibly do with him, and on n' on n' on....
Well, of course we know Archuleta did not win, but he WAS the runner-up
and he is now singing Pop music, that appeals to the younger crowd,
which is wise. He sounds great, and he is starting out well in his
career. All of his concerts are sell-outs and people love going to see
him sing in person.
Where am I getting at with this? Danny has a beautiful smoky and unique
voice that I just can't get enough of. It's smooth and rich, and I'm
convinced he can do ANY kind of music that he is given, or that he he
chooses. I love listening to him, and watching him, because he seems to
be singing from the depth of his soul, and he puts feeling into it. He
cares and the passion for music shows. He isn't just putting on a act,
or giving people what he 'thinks' they want to see, and trying to
pretend he is something he isn't. In other words, he is true to himself,
and his fans know it and love him.
I think he'd have a fantastic career after the show, there is no doubt
in my mind he wouldn't.
Interesting enough, I attended a women's club meeting tonight with 12
ladies. The youngest was 60 and the oldest is 75. After the business
meeting adjourned, I brought up the subject of A. I. and all of them,
but one said Danny is their favorite. The one likes Anoop the best, and
none of them cared all that much for Adam, and had some 'very'
interesting comments to make about him, but I won't go there.
I learned early on, that this NG does not speak for the majority of what
this country prefers, or likes when it comes to A. I., and in fact, it's
very much in the minority, compared to the people I associate with on a
day to day basis, and obviously the fans that vote.
Okay, I'll hand my soap box over to someone else now....... @>--;--
Judy (over and out)
Bob Rudd
says...
> Well, miracles DO happen. I won't comment on who has the biggest "cushion".
>
Of the remaining women.....my guess is Lil. ;-)
Bob Rudd
jhaf...@webtv.net says...
>
> Bob Rudd wrote:
>
> >As for versatility....you never asked
> > Elliott to do that, Monica. The guy's had
> > 3 shows in the top 12, give him some
> > time. How about Adam doing something
> > different besides being our version of
> > Jacob Haggard?
>
> When I read this just now, I started thinking..about Elliot being one
> dimensional, his fans didn't seem to go on about him "doing something
> different," as they have been on here with Danny, which I find rather
> amusing. Also this takes me back to last year, when so many were on here
> complaining and gripping that David A. only sang "slow boring ballads"
> and he needed "to step it up" and do something more lively to show what
> he was capable of. They also "jawed" on that he wasn't marketable and
> what would A. I. possibly do with him, and on n' on n' on....
Winners only need one dimension if it's the right one and it's
commercially viable together with their own popularity to drive the bus.
>
>
> Interesting enough, I attended a women's club meeting tonight with 12
> ladies. The youngest was 60 and the oldest is 75. After the business
> meeting adjourned, I brought up the subject of A. I. and all of them,
> but one said Danny is their favorite. The one likes Anoop the best, and
> none of them cared all that much for Adam, and had some 'very'
> interesting comments to make about him, but I won't go there.
The age of the viewer, it seems like, more and more, Fox/TPTB aren't
succeeding in their most important goal for the season as yet. No
offense Judy. I'm not in the target demo either.
They may have to settle for a winner who has the broadest appeal but not
necessarily deep. In that case, I'd say Danny best fills the bill right
now but that could change.
>
> I learned early on, that this NG does not speak for the majority of what
> this country prefers, or likes when it comes to A. I., and in fact, it's
> very much in the minority, compared to the people I associate with on a
> day to day basis, and obviously the fans that vote.
>
That is very much the case. We follow it too closely and lose focus as
a result.
Bob Rudd
Peter, that is a very spot on post and well explained.
Tin@
> In article <NDjwl.12575$hc1.10...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>,
> mickey_and_ed...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bob Rudd wrote:
> > > In article <hRiwl.9967$%54.4...@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
> > > mickey_and_ed...@sbcnomorephishglobal.net says...
> > >> Itoshi wrote:
> > >>> Finals Week 2 Results, broadcast on 3/18/2009
> > >> <snip>
>
> > >>> There's Alexis's farewell video. Is her kid's name really Ryan? That is so
> > >>> awesome. The credits roll as the video plays. Well, it's too bad she's
> > >>> leaving so soon.
> > >> In terms of screwing the pooch, this may be worse than LaToya London or
> > >> Jennifer Hudson. Someone is going to sign Alexis and take her under
> > >> their wing. Not being among the cursed 10, she will be better positioned
> > >> and prepared by season's end to exploit her 15 minutes of fame than rest
> > >> of the putzes, who will spend their summer on tour doing Disneyesque
> > >> production numbers at series of Randomdome Arenas. The camera likes her
> > >> a lot. She'll do fine. If Randy Travis has the brains of cockroach,
> > >> he'll put Alexis in his carry-on bag and smuggle her to Nashville. Simon
> > >> may never recover from the butt kicking he's going to give himself in
> > >> the morning.
>
> > >> The Other Mickey
>
> > > I agree Mickey. OTOH, I think they got a real scare that Adam was
> > > pretty close to the bottom three this week and that caused them to pull
> > > back from using it on her.
>
> > Foolish of them. This was possibly the worst week for Adam, genre wise.
> > With country out of the way, they really needn't worry about him until
> > week of 5, when they can't use the "pardon" anyway.
>
> > The Other Mickey
>
> I'm not sure. They know the upcoming themes and we don't, for one. The
> other is that Adam is an acquired taste and he's not playing well
> through large parts of America.
> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
So you say, it isnt the general opinion of those here, who live in
large parts of America.