OT - Obama Cites Campaign As "Executive Experience" !
briansa...@gmail.com
When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
Watch carefully as the Dems are now doing this repeatedly when
referring to Governor Palin.... "Ex-mayor Palin" or "The one time
mayor of a small city" etc. Psssst! It's GOVERNOR Palin!!
The full Obama interview is available in the CNN videos section
online, and is well worth a watch. In it, Obama also takes credit for
post-Gustav success. The staged and contrived nature of that
interview really elucidates CNN's complicity.
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(CNN) — Barack Obama defended his experience in dealing with natural
disasters, such as Hurricane Katrina, and took a swipe at newly minted
GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
In an interview on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Monday night, Obama was
asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate dealing with
weather-related situations compares to Palin’s executive experience
running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla,
Alaska.
“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50
employees. We've got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is
maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three
times that just for the month,” Obama responded.
Our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been
made clear over the past couple of years and certainly in terms of the
legislation I’ve passed in the past couple of years, post-Katrina.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/obama-defends-natural-disaster-experience/
Locutus
<briansa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
Watch carefully as the Dems are now doing this repeatedly when
referring to Governor Palin.... "Ex-mayor Palin" or "The one time
mayor of a small city" etc. Psssst! It's GOVERNOR Palin!!
The full Obama interview is available in the CNN videos section
online, and is well worth a watch. In it, Obama also takes credit for
post-Gustav success. The staged and contrived nature of that
interview really elucidates CNN's complicity.
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I saw this as well on CNN, and got a chuckle out of it. Pretty pathetic.
Alric Knebel
> When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
> actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
> experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
> comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
> experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
> staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
> budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
Did McCain have executive experience? Did John Kennedy?
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Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
daveparks
> <briansataiem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I think both of you are forgetting that Obama was a "Community Leader"
and basically achieved office without any real opposition - so there.
Newk Indofman
"Alric Knebel" <al...@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:uuqdnfOEAKtr_CDV...@giganews.com...
> briansa...@gmail.com wrote:
>> When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
>> actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
>> experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
>> comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
>> experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
>> staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
>> budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
>
> Did McCain have executive experience? Did John Kennedy?
The "experience" issue, of course, is BS. Look at all the experience from
the past eight years, yet Republicans still can't bring themselves to
condemn the Bush administration.
daveparks
> briansataiem...@gmail.com wrote:
> > When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
> > actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
> > experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
> > comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
> > experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
> > staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
> > budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
>
> Did McCain have executive experience? Did John Kennedy?
Not technically "executive" experience, but both had "Military"
experience and are/were considered American heroes. Barack is black.
> --
>
> ______________________________________________
> Alric Knebelhttp://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.htmlhttp://www.ironeyefortress.com
Locutus
<briansa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
experience!!
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Maybe Obama's campaign manager should be running for President?
briansa...@gmail.com
> briansataiem...@gmail.com wrote:
> > When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
> > actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
> > experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
> > comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
> > experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
> > staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
> > budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
>
> Did McCain have executive experience? Did John Kennedy?
>
Did either of them PRETEND they had executive experience and cite
their campaigns as evidence? LOLOLOL
Bob Rudd
58b0e3...@z6g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, briansa...@gmail.com
says...
>
> When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
> actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
> experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
> comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
> experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
> staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
> budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
>
> Watch carefully as the Dems are now doing this repeatedly when
> referring to Governor Palin.... "Ex-mayor Palin" or "The one time
> mayor of a small city" etc. Psssst! It's GOVERNOR Palin!!
>
> The full Obama interview is available in the CNN videos section
> online, and is well worth a watch. In it, Obama also takes credit for
> post-Gustav success. The staged and contrived nature of that
> interview really elucidates CNN's complicity.
>
> ---
>
> disasters, such as Hurricane Katrina, and took a swipe at newly minted
> GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.
>
> In an interview on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Monday night, Obama was
> asked about whether his experience in the U.S. Senate dealing with
> running the state of Alaska and as the small town mayor of Wasilla,
> Alaska.
>
> employees. We've got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is
> times that just for the month,=3F Obama responded.
>
> Our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been
> made clear over the past couple of years and certainly in terms of the
>
> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/obama-defends-natural-disaster-experience/
>
Hmmm...I ran a campaign, largely based on racial politics, therefore I
have executive experience....that's what he, essentially, said.
There's a far cry of difference between "legislation I passed (signed on
to) and legislation I authored (lead like an executive would).
Obama has made a life out of being a follower not a leader. That he
picked the Democrat version of Cheney for his VP selection is the
ultimate proof of that. Had Robert Byrd been 15 years younger, he'd
probably have selected him.
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I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
Salad
Brian, do you want us to start posting lots of opinions from news
articles from the US about McCain and Palin and drown you out? I, and a
few others, can make your crusade against Obama look like childs play.
I highly recommend the group alt.politics.bush if you want to do
copy/paste of news sites. You'd be loved there. The right wing needs
additional supporters there. The wingnuts there are crazier than TC and
they need someone like you to help them out.
Locutus
"Salad" <o...@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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You don't have a problem with Obama on CNN last night, comparing himself
against Palin's experience as a mayor and completely ignoring the fact that
she is a Governor? Try and be honest.
Salad
Republicans can eat their own. They've disowned bush. Now call him a
liberal scum.
They're basically saying a black man shouldn't be president at this
time. We need a weak team like McCain/Palin to pull us out of the muck
from 8 years of bush.
Bob Rudd
I286SDVnZ2d...@posted.nuvoxcommunications>,
locutu...@hotmail.com says...
Well, his unofficial campaign manager is Donna Brazile....trust me, you
don't want her running for President.
Bob Rudd
819c0f...@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, davepa...@hotmail.com
says...
> On Sep 2, 10:55 am, "Alric Knebel" <al...@cableone.net> wrote:
> > briansataiem...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > When asked about his lack of executive experience on CNN, Obama
> > > actually responded by citing the campaign as his executive
> > > experience!! And he also highlighted the latest Dem tactic when
> > > comparing himself to Governor Palin: He referred to her mayoral
> > > experience and compared his campaign to the size of her mayoral
> > > staff!! Nevermind that Governor Palin presides over a $9 Billion
> > > budget in Alaska!! Desperate. Disingenuous. Pathetic.
> >
> > Did McCain have executive experience? Did John Kennedy?
>
> Not technically "executive" experience, but both had "Military"
> experience and are/were considered American heroes. Barack is black.
Both McCain and Kennedy had military leadership experience. Obama has
none of that, or any type of true leadership experience.
He can, though, make Pope Oprah cry tears of happiness, if that counts.
briansa...@gmail.com
> <briansataiem...@gmail.com> wrote in message
To be honest, "executive experience" is not much more than a marketing
term. The real story here is Obama's need to defend himself with such
ridiculous credentials while casting Governor Palin's current job
responsibilities. It is disingenuous and desperate beyond measure.
briansa...@gmail.com
*casting aside
Bob Rudd
o...@vinegar.com says...
We're saying an almost completely unqualified man, regardless of his
race, like Obama should not be President.
Salad
I consider it experience...beating the might Hillary. McCain, the guy
Republicans considered crazy in 2000 and due to medical advances in
psycho drugs is now considered their savior, beat an evangie and a Mormon.
Republicans are making this election into a religious election. I hope
Americans can separate their religion from politics this election.
Salad
Ok Ok. A guy sitting for 6 years being tortured by the enemy is all the
experience you need.
After 8 years of bush we need somebody to correct his mess. McCain's
not the guy, IMO. Obama is.
Salad
Brian supports her. Ixnay on Biden tho.
Bob Rudd
o...@vinegar.com says...
Democrats are making this election into a racial one. They don't want a
religious one because Obama's pastor doesn't play very well into that
act.
Salad
What Obama's pastor said bothers me not in the least...except for the
fact that it detracted from his campaign by people like you that took
umbrage.
Bob Rudd
o...@vinegar.com says...
It exposed the true feelings and beliefs of the Obama family. Showed
why Michelle hates America so much.
Thanatos
So some guy who preaches that AIDS was invented by white people to
eradicate blacks doesn't bother you... but it's *us* who hate America if
we don't vote for Obama?
Seriously?
Are you writing an SNL skit or something? I mean, I just can't believe
you seriously believe this crap.
Thanatos
<f6cf1eac-299f-4876...@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
daveparks <davepa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think both of you are forgetting that Obama was a
> "Community Leader" and basically achieved office
> without any real opposition - so there.
No, no, no!
Get it right. He was a "community organizer".
Big difference.
Rocky
@news.giganews.com:
In 1985, he moved to Chicago to work with local churches organizing job
training and other programs for poor and working-class residents of Altgeld
Gardens, a public housing project where 5,300 African-Americans tried to
survive amid shuttered steel mills, a nearby landfill, a putrid sewage
treatment plant, and a pervasive feeling that the white establishment of
Chicago would never give them a fair shake.
Jerry Kellman, a social activist who recruited Obama, recalls, "He was very
bright, very articulate, very personable, and very idealistic," inspired by
civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.'s philosophy of nonviolence.
Kellman offered Obama a job at the annual salary of $10,000, and he threw
in $2,000 so Obama could buy a ramshackle car to get around.
Obama was a stranger to the area but caught on quickly by showing humility
and a strong work ethic. "We knew what was wrong in the community but we
didn't know how to get something done about it," recalls Yvonne Lloyd, 78,
who worked with Obama. Obama insisted on "staying in the background while
he empowered us." By Obama's own admission, there were few big victories.
But whether it was getting the city to fill potholes, provide summer jobs,
or remove asbestos from the apartments or persuading the apartment managers
to repair toilets, pipes, and ceilings, Obama encouraged residents to come
up with their own priorities with the gentle admonition: "It's your
community."
Sounds like leadership to me.
Bob Rudd
no...@nothere.com says...
Any of those gatherings at Bill Ayers' home by any chance. What better
place for Obama to learn leadership that at the feet of the leader of
his friend, the domestic terrorist head of the Weather Underground?
Salad
> In article <2oidnb8Zq8hLBSDV...@earthlink.com>,
> Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
>
>
>>What Obama's pastor said bothers me not in the least...
>
>
> So some guy who preaches that AIDS was invented by white people to
> eradicate blacks doesn't bother you... but it's *us* who hate America if
> we don't vote for Obama?
>
> Seriously?
I've often wondered if AIDs was a gov't experiment that went awry. The
targeting of homosexuals and blacks is telling.
Nobody would ever admit to opening Pandora's Box.
It's possible.
> Are you writing an SNL skit or something? I mean, I just can't believe
> you seriously believe this crap.
The Antrax killer comes to mind. We even have the killer bees.
Mistakes have been made in the past.
Bob Rudd
o...@vinegar.com says...
> Thanatos wrote:
>
> > In article <2oidnb8Zq8hLBSDV...@earthlink.com>,
> > Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>What Obama's pastor said bothers me not in the least...
> >
> >
> > So some guy who preaches that AIDS was invented by white people to
> > eradicate blacks doesn't bother you... but it's *us* who hate America if
> > we don't vote for Obama?
> >
> > Seriously?
>
> I've often wondered if AIDs was a gov't experiment that went awry. The
> targeting of homosexuals and blacks is telling.
>
> Nobody would ever admit to opening Pandora's Box.
>
> It's possible.
We've often disagreed as well as been friendly. This is the first time I
find myself really wondering whether you are just another conspiracy
nutjob, like Rosie O'Donnell and some others.
The government did not invent AIDS or target any group with it. A
conspiracy of that magnitude could never be kept quiet for longer than a
week......not even a day.
>
> > Are you writing an SNL skit or something? I mean, I just can't believe
> > you seriously believe this crap.
>
> The Antrax killer comes to mind. We even have the killer bees.
> Mistakes have been made in the past.
>
--
Salad
> In article <n4GdnZQqwNF9OiPV...@earthlink.com>,
> o...@vinegar.com says...
>
>>Thanatos wrote:
>>
>>
>>>In article <2oidnb8Zq8hLBSDV...@earthlink.com>,
>>> Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>What Obama's pastor said bothers me not in the least...
>>>
>>>
>>>So some guy who preaches that AIDS was invented by white people to
>>>eradicate blacks doesn't bother you... but it's *us* who hate America if
>>>we don't vote for Obama?
>>>
>>>Seriously?
>>
>>I've often wondered if AIDs was a gov't experiment that went awry. The
>>targeting of homosexuals and blacks is telling.
>>
>>Nobody would ever admit to opening Pandora's Box.
>>
>>It's possible.
>
>
> We've often disagreed as well as been friendly. This is the first time I
> find myself really wondering whether you are just another conspiracy
> nutjob, like Rosie O'Donnell and some others.
The disease targeting of blacks and homesexuals made me wonder. The
government has released biological tests (one of them a few miles from
where you are) on its citizens before. How about running a test on this
new disease...oops!...didn't expect it to spread like this.
>
> The government did not invent AIDS or target any group with it. A
> conspiracy of that magnitude could never be kept quiet for longer than a
> week......not even a day.
Who says so. Bob Rudd the doctor?
Micki Epstein
I do not believe the government did this. They did however not do enough
early enough to find the source and possible cures for it.
I have to disagree with you Bob that if they had it could not be kept quiet
for longer than a week. There was the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment which
went on for 40 years.
Micki
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html
The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply,
profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity
and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the
eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997
For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS)
conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis.
These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the
poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were
suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated
for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis
at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of
the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the
ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease,
paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the
doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients
until they die.”
Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals
The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to
ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in
life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical
care—almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before—these
unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones,
author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as
“the longest nontherapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”
The study was meant to discover how syphilis affected blacks as opposed to
whites—the theory being that whites experienced more neurological
complications from syphilis whereas blacks were more susceptible to
cardiovascular damage. How this knowledge would have changed clinical
treatment of syphilis is uncertain. Although the PHS touted the study as
one of great scientific merit, from the outset its actual benefits were
hazy. It took almost forty years before someone involved in the study took
a hard and honest look at the end results, reporting that “nothing learned
will prevent, find, or cure a single case of infectious syphilis or bring
us closer to our basic mission of controlling venereal disease in the
United States.” When the experiment was brought to the attention of the
media in 1972, news anchor Harry Reasoner described it as an experiment
that “used human beings as laboratory animals in a long and inefficient
study of how long it takes syphilis to kill someone.”
A Heavy Price in the Name of Bad Science
By the end of the experiment, 28 of the men had died directly of syphilis,
100 were dead of related complications, 40 of their wives had been
infected, and 19 of their children had been born with congenital syphilis.
How had these men been induced to endure a fatal disease in the name of
science? To persuade the community to support the experiment, one of the
original doctors admitted it “was necessary to carry on this study under
the guise of a demonstration and provide treatment.” At first, the men were
prescribed the syphilis remedies of the day—bismuth, neoarsphenamine, and
mercury—but in such small amounts that only 3 percent showed any
improvement. These token doses of medicine were good public relations and
did not interfere with the true aims of the study. Eventually, all syphilis
treatment was replaced with “pink medicine”—aspirin. To ensure that the men
would show up for a painful and potentially dangerous spinal tap, the PHS
doctors misled them with a letter full of promotional hype: “Last Chance
for Special Free Treatment.” The fact that autopsies would eventually be
required was also concealed. As a doctor explained, “If the colored
population becomes aware that accepting free hospital care means a
post-mortem, every darky will leave Macon County…” Even the Surgeon General
of the United States participated in enticing the men to remain in the
experiment, sending them certificates of appreciation after 25 years in the
study.
Following Doctors' Orders
It takes little imagination to ascribe racist attitudes to the white
government officials who ran the experiment, but what can one make of the
numerous African Americans who collaborated with them? The experiment's
name comes from the Tuskegee Institute, the black university founded by
Booker T. Washington. Its affiliated hospital lent the PHS its medical
facilities for the study, and other predominantly black institutions as
well as local black doctors also participated. A black nurse, Eunice
Rivers, was a central figure in the experiment for most of its forty years.
The promise of recognition by a prestigious government agency may have
obscured the troubling aspects of the study for some. A Tuskegee doctor,
for example, praised “the educational advantages offered our interns and
nurses as well as the added standing it will give the hospital.” Nurse
Rivers explained her role as one of passive obedience: “we were taught that
we never diagnosed, we never prescribed; we followed the doctor's
instructions!” It is clear that the men in the experiment trusted her and
that she sincerely cared about their well-being, but her unquestioning
submission to authority eclipsed her moral judgment. Even after the
experiment was exposed to public scrutiny, she genuinely felt nothing
ethical had been amiss.
One of the most chilling aspects of the experiment was how zealously the
PHS kept these men from receiving treatment. When several nationwide
campaigns to eradicate venereal disease came to Macon County, the men were
prevented from participating. Even when penicillin was discovered in the
1940s—the first real cure for syphilis—the Tuskegee men were deliberately
denied the medication. During World War II, 250 of the men registered for
the draft and were consequently ordered to get treatment for syphilis, only
to have the PHS exempt them. Pleased at their success, the PHS
representative announced: “So far, we are keeping the known positive
patients from getting treatment.” The experiment continued in spite of the
Henderson Act (1943), a public health law requiring testing and treatment
for venereal disease, and in spite of the World Health Organization's
Declaration of Helsinki (1964), which specified that “informed consent” was
needed for experiment involving human beings.
Blowing the Whistle
The story finally broke in the Washington Star on July 25, 1972, in an
article by Jean Heller of the Associated Press. Her source was Peter
Buxtun, a former PHS venereal disease interviewer and one of the few
whistle blowers over the years. The PHS, however, remained unrepentant,
claiming the men had been “volunteers” and “were always happy to see the
doctors,” and an Alabama state health officer who had been involved claimed
“somebody is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.”
Under the glare of publicity, the government ended their experiment, and
for the first time provided the men with effective medical treatment for
syphilis. Fred Gray, a lawyer who had previously defended Rosa Parks and
Martin Luther King, filed a class action suit that provided a $10 million
out-of-court settlement for the men and their families. Gray, however,
named only whites and white organizations in the suit, portraying Tuskegee
as a black and white case when it was in fact more complex than that—black
doctors and institutions had been involved from beginning to end.
The PHS did not accept the media's comparison of Tuskegee with the
appalling experiments performed by Nazi doctors on their Jewish victims
during World War II. Yet in addition to the medical and racist parallels,
the PHS offered the same morally bankrupt defense offered at the Nuremberg
trials: they claimed they were just carrying out orders, mere cogs in the
wheel of the PHS bureaucracy, exempt from personal responsibility.
The study's other justification—for the greater good of science—is equally
spurious. Scientific protocol had been shoddy from the start. Since the men
had in fact received some medication for syphilis in the beginning of the
study, however inadequate, it thereby corrupted the outcome of a study of
“untreated syphilis.”
In 1990, a survey found that 10 percent of African Americans believed that
the U.S. government created AIDS as a plot to exterminate blacks, and
another 20 percent could not rule out the possibility that this might be
true. As preposterous and paranoid as this may sound, at one time the
Tuskegee experiment must have seemed equally farfetched. Who could imagine
the government, all the way up to the Surgeon General of the United States,
deliberately allowing a group of its citizens to die from a terrible
disease for the sake of an ill-conceived experiment? In light of this and
many other shameful episodes in our history, African Americans' widespread
mistrust of the government and white society in general should not be a
surprise to anyone. —BB
1. All quotations in the article are from Bad Blood: The Tuskegee Syphilis
Experiment, James H. Jones, expanded edition (New York: Free Press, 1993).
Information Please® Database, © 2007 Pearson Education, Inc. All rights
reserved
Thanatos
Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
> Thanatos wrote:
>
> > In article <2oidnb8Zq8hLBSDV...@earthlink.com>,
> > Salad <o...@vinegar.com> wrote:
> >> What Obama's pastor said bothers me not in the least...
> > So some guy who preaches that AIDS was invented by
> > white people to eradicate blacks doesn't bother you...
> > but it's *us* who hate America if we don't vote for Obama?
> >
> > Seriously?
>
> I've often wondered if AIDs was a gov't experiment that went awry.
Well, I guess that answers it. You really are crazy.
> The targeting of homosexuals and blacks is telling.
No, it's really not. Not any more than sickle cell disease is a "dark
manmade conspiracy" because it occurs almost exclusively in blacks.
There are very simple biological explanations for it.
You're just a lunatic, that's all.
Bob Rudd
o...@vinegar.com says...
Are you really that ignorant or do you have to try hard to be?
Bob Rudd
mos...@verizon.net says...
> I have to disagree with you Bob that if they had it could not be kept quiet
> for longer than a week. There was the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment which
> went on for 40 years.
>
You're dredging up history from a long time ago and a much different
country than we are now, Micki. No comparison.
Micki Epstein
> In article <52pwvvsa394e$.m6y5m1ny...@40tude.net>,
> mos...@verizon.net says...
>> I have to disagree with you Bob that if they had it could not be kept quiet
>> for longer than a week. There was the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment which
>> went on for 40 years.
>>
>
> You're dredging up history from a long time ago and a much different
> country than we are now, Micki. No comparison.
Disagree.
Micki