> May you all have a day that you usually only get to dream about. Whether > it is a Norman Rockwell painting, watching football or just enjoying one > another.
We'll post pictures of our feast later! K's got it all planned out, down to the gourd gravy boat! --S.
>> You know, I've heard so much about that, I've been wondering: have any of >> you actually tasted that? It sounds interesting but strange.
> I just learned that it is very dangerous and highly discouraged. The > meats apparently don't get cooked well enough to kill all the bacteria. > --S.
That I imagine would be true. I've had duck but I can't say I like it that much. Turkey and chicken? My faves but I don't know that the chicken would get done right if it was inside the turkey. -- Moni (fmomoon) War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left.
>> "Karrde" <karrde_smuggl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:4565cb99$1_1@x-privat.org... >>> Oh yeah, like we haven't been anxiously awaiting this stove giving out >>> ever since we moved here. We really miss our glass top and will >>> probably be out shopping for one within the next two weeks. :-D
>> Glass top? Like those Corelle cook tops? A friend of mine had one and >> had a devil of a time keeping it clean, but I thought the idea was >> fabulous.
> The surface is a little bit harder to scrub than the surface of a regular > stove. That being said, it is still INFINITELY easier to clean a flat > stovetop. No nooks & crannies to get into. The simple spills, you just > wipe clean across the surface. BOOM, you're done. Compare that to > working your way around the burners, cleaning under the burner rims, the > rims and burners themselves, etc. Now, if you let things go for a while, > you'll have to polish the flat top and that takes some time and elbow > grease, but for everyday cleaning, flat tops are way easier. We had one > for just a few months before discovering we had to relocate. Our current > house has a stove that is about 20 years old (it actually has fake wood > detail), and only one burner works correctly.
> I'd like to upgrade a little and get one of those stoves that has the > option of connecting two burners with a hot strip in the middle. That, > paired with an extra-long skillet, would be so great for making large > quantities of pancakes, dolmas, grilled sandwiches, etc. When there are > six people in the family, a simple pancake breakfast can take an hour if > you can only cook two of them at a time! > --S.
I imagine it would. When the grandkids are around, I feel like a short order cook because, of course, they don't all like the same thing. ;) -- Moni (fmomoon) War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left.
> Well, it works both ways. In 1998 when I had a freak major stroke in > my 40's, my sister and her husband literally gave up their home and > their jobs to come to VA during my 3+ months of hospitalization -- > followed by several months of in-patient rehab and outpatient physical > therapy. Only after my recovery and subsequent return to work and > self-sufficiency did they return to some semblance of getting about > with their normal lives. My sister and I fought like cats and dogs > when we were growing up, but when the chips are down ... well, you see > how it is.
I'm envious, zob. My brother and I aren't very close. We couldn't live any further away from each other: he's on the east coast and I am a CA girl. Occasionally, he gets the opportunity to be the classic "big brother" and I do love it. I guess, even though I am quite used to our distant relationship, part of me always craves a connection to him. -- Moni (fmomoon) War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left.
>>>>> On a personal note, this year we are not cooking due to circumstances >>>>> beyond our control.
>>>> We ALMOST aren't cooking due to circumstances out of our control. Our >>>> stove only has one good working burner! K is going to be extremely >>>> creative to juggle his 17 course meal. >>>> --S.
>>> Olive Garden? <g> Have fun, S.
>> The frame is up. I still think February is the right time frame.
> February is a bit late for Thanksgiving, though. ;)
But just in time for Valentine's Day. Shhhh. Don't say anything. ;-)
>> You know, I've heard so much about that, I've been wondering: have any of >> you actually tasted that? It sounds interesting but strange.
> I just learned that it is very dangerous and highly discouraged. The > meats apparently don't get cooked well enough to kill all the bacteria.
It can be dangerous if you don't take the right precautions, but there are a few grocery stores that sell the turducken ready to roast. I almost got one about five years ago when I first heard of them, but balked when I found out how much extra work goes into it.
> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:13339-45656B55-1826@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net... >> I've never tried ice cream with pumpkin pie, but I have heard it's >> good?! I prefer REAL whipping cream myself, but bought two tubs of Cool >> Whip (Creamy style) for the pumpkin pie, and also made blueberry for one >> granddaughter, coconut creme for another granddaughter, and banana >> creme also...just because it's everybody's favorite.
>> Judy
> Oh, I'm coming over to *your* house. That sounds wonderful!
Moni, you missed out on the pumpkin brownies. They were excellent. The crab bisque didn't turn out half bad either.
>>>>>> On a personal note, this year we are not cooking due to circumstances >>>>>> beyond our control.
>>>>> We ALMOST aren't cooking due to circumstances out of our control. Our >>>>> stove only has one good working burner! K is going to be extremely >>>>> creative to juggle his 17 course meal. >>>>> --S.
>>>> Olive Garden? <g> Have fun, S.
>>> The frame is up. I still think February is the right time frame.
>> February is a bit late for Thanksgiving, though. ;)
> But just in time for Valentine's Day. Shhhh. Don't say anything. ;-)
Mums the word.. -- Moni (fmomoon) War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left.
>> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message >> news:13339-45656B55-1826@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net... >>> I've never tried ice cream with pumpkin pie, but I have heard it's >>> good?! I prefer REAL whipping cream myself, but bought two tubs of Cool >>> Whip (Creamy style) for the pumpkin pie, and also made blueberry for one >>> granddaughter, coconut creme for another granddaughter, and banana >>> creme also...just because it's everybody's favorite.
>>> Judy
>> Oh, I'm coming over to *your* house. That sounds wonderful!
> Moni, you missed out on the pumpkin brownies. They were excellent. The > crab bisque didn't turn out half bad either.
Now this is going to sound silly coming from a CA woman who has been on a crab boat, but I've never had crab bisque. I'd like to try it though and those pumpkin brownies sound excellent. Life is too short to skimp on dessert. :) -- Moni (fmomoon) War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left.
>>> You know, I've heard so much about that, I've been wondering: have any >>> of you actually tasted that? It sounds interesting but strange.
>> I just learned that it is very dangerous and highly discouraged. The >> meats apparently don't get cooked well enough to kill all the bacteria.
> It can be dangerous if you don't take the right precautions,
I have to wonder what he right precautions must be! Maybe to cook all the birds first, and THEN stuff them inside each other, to be warmed up later? (Even that would hold a bacteria risk, when you think about it.) Otherwise, there's simply no way to safely cook three birds one inside the other and ensure that all the meat gets thoroughly cooked through. --S.
>>>> You know, I've heard so much about that, I've been wondering: have any >>>> of you actually tasted that? It sounds interesting but strange.
>>> I just learned that it is very dangerous and highly discouraged. The >>> meats apparently don't get cooked well enough to kill all the bacteria.
>> It can be dangerous if you don't take the right precautions,
> I have to wonder what he right precautions must be! Maybe to cook all the > birds first, and THEN stuff them inside each other, to be warmed up later? > (Even that would hold a bacteria risk, when you think about it.) > Otherwise, there's simply no way to safely cook three birds one inside the > other and ensure that all the meat gets thoroughly cooked through.
Well, the birds have to be deboned first to allow for the layering of the meats. Then, the Turducken is slow roasted for over nine hours at 225 degrees to ensure that all of the bacteria is killed off. I'd love to try one, but I wouldn't trust myself to have the patience to do it right. Here is one recipe: http://www.thesalmons.org/lynn/turducken.html
Okay, try these variations on for size. 1) Fill the chicken cavity with sausage and layer bacon on the top of the whole thing. 2) Stuff the turkey with a Chuckey (chicken stuffed with a duckling) for a Turchuckey. 3) Gurducken (uses a goose in place of a turkey). 4) Turduckencorpheail (Turducken is stuffed with a cornish game hen which is then stuffed with a pheasant which is finally stuffed with a quail).
and then I just found this one:
5) "The largest recorded nested bird roast is 17 birds, attributed to a royal feast in France in the 19th Century: a Bustergophechideckneaealckideverwingailusharkolanine - bustard stuffed with a turkey, a goose, a pheasant, a chicken, a duck, a guinea fowl, a teal, a woodcock, a partridge, a plover, a lapwing, a quail, a thrush, a lark, an ortolan and a passerine."
>>> "Judy Haffner" <jhaff...@webtv.net> wrote in message >>> news:13339-45656B55-1826@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net... >>>> I've never tried ice cream with pumpkin pie, but I have heard it's >>>> good?! I prefer REAL whipping cream myself, but bought two tubs of Cool >>>> Whip (Creamy style) for the pumpkin pie, and also made blueberry for >>>> one >>>> granddaughter, coconut creme for another granddaughter, and banana >>>> creme also...just because it's everybody's favorite.
>>>> Judy
>>> Oh, I'm coming over to *your* house. That sounds wonderful!
>> Moni, you missed out on the pumpkin brownies. They were excellent. The >> crab bisque didn't turn out half bad either.
> Now this is going to sound silly coming from a CA woman who has been on a > crab boat, but I've never had crab bisque. I'd like to try it though and > those pumpkin brownies sound excellent. Life is too short to skimp on > dessert. :)
Okay, I can make you the crab bisque if you ever get out this way. The pumpkin brownies will be a go as well, depending on the time of year. You say don't skimp and I agree. That's why I won't use canned pumpkin, only fresh puree that I've made myself. Only the best for my desserts. ;-)
> "fmomoon" <fmom...@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:Kp6dndArUt-zCfvYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Now this is going to sound silly coming from a CA woman who has been on a >> crab boat, but I've never had crab bisque. I'd like to try it though and >> those pumpkin brownies sound excellent. Life is too short to skimp on >> dessert. :)
> Okay, I can make you the crab bisque if you ever get out this way. The > pumpkin brownies will be a go as well, depending on the time of year. You > say don't skimp and I agree. That's why I won't use canned pumpkin, only > fresh puree that I've made myself. Only the best for my desserts. ;-)
I did go through the trouble of doing pumpkin puree once. To my taste, I discovered that the difference is in the spices and I just prefer the spices in the canned stuff. I'm strange, I know. However, I'm always up for dessert! :) -- Moni (fmomoon) War does not determine who is right, war determines who is left.