Are the sex pictures the reason Antonella Barba is still on American Idol?
andheresjohnny
Idol? There's no way her performance on that show was better than the
others.
I'm sure the network doesn't want her bumped off. I'll bet the ratings
have gone through the roof since the release of the pictures, and now
they don't want to give that up.
My guess is she will continue to win as long as she remains a popular
search topic on the Internet. The big adult video websites like
http://www.freepornvideos69.com (NSFW) still have her sex pictures
posted for all to see.
She is still the number 1 search topic on Technorati, and rivals Anna
Nicole Smith for Internet searches.
In my opinion American Idol loses all credibility when obvious
mistakes like this is made.
mcp6453
I haven't been following the porn threads and am not going to click on
that thread. What I recall reading is that some or all of the photos
were doctored. What is the current consensus? Were they doctored?
Anim8rFSK
mcp6453 <mcp...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I haven't heard that any were doctored. The worst are simply of another
woman, that doesn't look all that much like Antonella.
-Calliope-
> And there are still some people who believe that these photos are of
> Antonella. For example I think that Calliope of this group still
> thinks it may be her. I guess we can add visually impaired to her
> hearing impairment if that is the case:-)
You don't get to speak for me.
JXStern
> Did they lose all credibility when Jasmine made it to third place?
>If so, it did not seem to hurt their ratings, now in season 6, did it?
vox populi, vox dei
Kittyn
>On 4 Mar 2007 05:48:05 -0800, "andheresjohnny"
><andhere...@wowway.com> wrote:
>
>>How does Antonella Barba make it through another week on American
>>Idol? There's no way her performance on that show was better than the
>>others.
>
>How did Jasmine Trias make it to third place in Season 3? She got more
>votes than those who did not make it, is the answer. And Jasmine never
>had a scandal like Antonella to explain her success. People vote for a
>variety of reasons. If you don't like it then exercise your right to
>vote.
>>
Jasmine had demographics on her side. Also, to be fair, I don't
think she was that bad of a singer. She had a certain likeability to
her and didn't smartmouth the judges the way that Antonella has done.
>>I'm sure the network doesn't want her bumped off. I'll bet the ratings
>>have gone through the roof since the release of the pictures, and now
>>they don't want to give that up.
>
>You are correct that the networks primary concern is ratings.
>>
I don't know if the release of the pictures really has had much of an
effect to the ratings. There are so many celebrities that have had
dirty photos discovered that I don't think someone that didn't already
watch AI would be interested enough to suddenly start tuning in.
>>My guess is she will continue to win as long as she remains a popular
>>search topic on the Internet.
>
>Your guess is as good as mine.
>>
I think the main reason she is still there has more to do with how she
looks and less to do with the fact that there were pictures
discovered, other than the fact that it made her more well known over
the other contestants. I think if there had been no pictures
discovered she would still be on the show because there is a
demographic for cute young girls and she is just about the only one
that really fits the bill for that this year.
>>She is still the number 1 search topic on Technorati, and rivals Anna
>>Nicole Smith for Internet searches.
>
>Well Bill O'Reilly running two stories on her this week is a big
>reason why her search is the most popular.
>>
>>In my opinion American Idol loses all credibility when obvious
>>mistakes like this is made.
>
>
> Did they lose all credibility when Jasmine made it to third place?
>If so, it did not seem to hurt their ratings, now in season 6, did it?
>
Having her there deep into the finals won't really hurt them, but I do
think if she actually won it would definitely hurt the show's
credibility. I do not think she will win, however, unless she
suddenly starts singing remarkedly better. While there are plenty of
people that vote for looks, there are far more people that vote for
talent. If she is still there during the top 3 or 4, the talent
seekers will eventually win out and she will fall just short.
>Ryan
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>2006 ATAI Bragging Rights Champion
Bob Rudd
JXSternC...@gte.net says...
> vox populi, vox dei
>
Quite true, my friend.
--
I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
fmomoon
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even the most ignorant should have an equal say to the most informed, but
music needs to be left to those know have ears and perspective. You see,
for me, music is much more important than politics. :) I can't believe that
God has a hearing loss. ;)
--
Moni (fmomoon)
War does not determine who is right,
war determines who is left.
Mickey
> "JXStern" <JXSternC...@gte.net> wrote in message
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>
>>On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:31:25 +0000, ry...@idol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Did they lose all credibility when Jasmine made it to third place?
>>>If so, it did not seem to hurt their ratings, now in season 6, did it?
>>
>>vox populi, vox dei
>>
>
> No, it just shows that the American public can be wrong. Politics, yes,
> even the most ignorant should have an equal say to the most informed, but
> music needs to be left to those know have ears and perspective. You see,
> for me, music is much more important than politics. :) I can't believe that
> God has a hearing loss. ;)
Don't hear much Berg on the juke box. The musical establishment pretty
much wasted half a century on crap, just because Schoenberg got a bad
case of writer's block and it turned out to be contagious. In short, I
don't think I have much more faith in the enlightened than I do in the
unwashed.
The Other Mickey
fmomoon
"Mickey" <mickey_a...@nomorephishsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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likes the music of either Berg or Schoenberg. I tend more towards music of
the last half of the 20th century, and primarily vocals at that. For the
older stuff, I lean more towards Mozart and Bach than anything else. I'm
not fond of the level of dissonance that I hear in Schoenberg. I've yet to
hear a 12-tone composition I thought was beautiful. You've heard me babble
enough around here about musical theatre and jazz, so I know you know where
my heart lies. I just don't like it when a 14-year-old voter has as much
say as someone who actually knows the genre has.
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
>
> "JXStern" <JXSternC...@gte.net> wrote in message
> news:jeulu2lace86l16th...@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:31:25 +0000, ry...@idol.com wrote:
> >
> >> Did they lose all credibility when Jasmine made it to third place?
> >>If so, it did not seem to hurt their ratings, now in season 6, did it?
> >
> > vox populi, vox dei
> >
> No, it just shows that the American public can be wrong. Politics, yes,
> even the most ignorant should have an equal say to the most informed, but
> music needs to be left to those know have ears and perspective. You see,
> for me, music is much more important than politics. :) I can't believe that
> God has a hearing loss. ;)
>
It's an election, Moni, not a concert,
fmomoon
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...and that is where we go wrong. I like the format I've seen where the
public picks the bottom two or whatever and the judges pick who is going
home. That way, VFTW has no power. That way, the teenage girls who think
so and so tuneless wonders have no power.
star...@yahoo.com
And it may be the thing that keeps her on for a long time.
This is why I think you saw the "Get off your butts and VOTE" plea
last week. If they don't get enough votes this season, I, for one,
think she can win, and that would be CATASTROPHIC for Fox.
Mike
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
Moni, the ratings for Grease are not very good. There' a lot of reasons
for it and the way eliminations are decided has to be a major part of
it.
Mickey
> "Mickey" <mickey_a...@nomorephishsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:VvHGh.6031$jx3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>
>>fmomoon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"JXStern" <JXSternC...@gte.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jeulu2lace86l16th...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 15:31:25 +0000, ry...@idol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Did they lose all credibility when Jasmine made it to third place?
>>>>>If so, it did not seem to hurt their ratings, now in season 6, did it?
>>>>
>>>>vox populi, vox dei
>>>>
>>>
>>>No, it just shows that the American public can be wrong. Politics, yes,
>>>even the most ignorant should have an equal say to the most informed, but
>>>music needs to be left to those know have ears and perspective. You see,
>>>for me, music is much more important than politics. :) I can't believe
>>>that God has a hearing loss. ;)
>>
>>Don't hear much Berg on the juke box. The musical establishment pretty
>>much wasted half a century on crap, just because Schoenberg got a bad case
>>of writer's block and it turned out to be contagious. In short, I don't
>>think I have much more faith in the enlightened than I do in the unwashed.
>>
>>The Other Mickey
>
> I understand what you mean, Mickey. However, you are assuming that one
> likes the music of either Berg or Schoenberg.
Actually no. What I'm saying is some people like to think that serial
music is worth listening to. I've performed bunches of the stuff and I
observed a direct correlation between my sense of the piece's quality
and the degree to which the composer cheatedm that is, when they ignored
the system and wrote what sounded right. BTW I love pre-serial
Schoenberg and have little use for the later serial stuff.
For one of the best lampoons of serial music, find the recording "Punct
Contrapunct" which is on one of the Hoffnung Festival recordings. (I
can't recall which). For those unfamiliar with the Hoffnung Festival, it
is the far superior ancestor of P.D.Q. Bach. Gerald Hoffnung, the most
important instigator of the Festivals was a musician and cartoonist made
famous by his cartoons about musicians.
The Other Mickey
5016
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> fmomoon wrote:
> > "Mickey" <mickey_and_ed...@nomorephishsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> >>fmomoon wrote:
>
> >>>"JXStern" <JXSternChange...@gte.net> wrote in message
> >>>news:jeulu2lace86l16th...@4ax.com...
Gerard, actually. He was also the author of the sublime "Bricklayer's
Story" from the Oxford Union address, which was still played on BBC
Radio 4 occasionally into the 70s.
There were Flanders and Swann around that time too. And Victor Borge
until recently of course. There doesn't seem to be enough demand to
support a lot of classical music comedy at any point in time.
>
> The Other Mickey
>
> I tend more towards music of
>
>
>
> > the last half of the 20th century, and primarily vocals at that. For the
> > older stuff, I lean more towards Mozart and Bach than anything else. I'm
> > not fond of the level of dissonance that I hear in Schoenberg. I've yet to
> > hear a 12-tone composition I thought was beautiful. You've heard me babble
> > enough around here about musical theatre and jazz, so I know you know where
> > my heart lies. I just don't like it when a 14-year-old voter has as much
> > say as someone who actually knows the genre has.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Mickey
The "Bricklayer's Story" is the finest example of comic timing I've ever
heard. Being a singer, I'm also very fond of "Tale of Hoffnung" or
"Let's Fake an Opera." Brilliant stuff.
The Other Mickey
fmomoon
>> public picks the bottom two or whatever and the judges pick who is going
>> home. That way, VFTW has no power. That way, the teenage girls who
>> think
>> so and so tuneless wonders have no power.
> Moni, the ratings for Grease are not very good. There' a lot of reasons
> for it and the way eliminations are decided has to be a major part of
> it.
SYTYCD, I believe had the same voting format as the "Grease" mess had.
fmomoon
"5016" <huwg...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>> For one of the best lampoons of serial music, find the recording "Punct
>> Contrapunct" which is on one of the Hoffnung Festival recordings. (I
>> can't recall which). For those unfamiliar with the Hoffnung Festival, it
>> is the far superior ancestor of P.D.Q. Bach. Gerald Hoffnung, the most
>> important instigator of the Festivals was a musician and cartoonist made
>> famous by his cartoons about musicians.
>
> Gerard, actually. He was also the author of the sublime "Bricklayer's
> Story" from the Oxford Union address, which was still played on BBC
> Radio 4 occasionally into the 70s.
>
> There were Flanders and Swann around that time too. And Victor Borge
> until recently of course. There doesn't seem to be enough demand to
> support a lot of classical music comedy at any point in time.
I always felt that Victor Borge humanized classical music. It sure needed
it.
fmomoon
> The "Bricklayer's Story" is the finest example of comic timing I've ever
> heard. Being a singer, I'm also very fond of "Tale of Hoffnung" or "Let's
> Fake an Opera." Brilliant stuff.
>
> The Other Mickey
I'm very fond of "The Four Note Opera" and PDQ Bach's "The Seasonings," too.
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
>
> "Bob Rudd" <bob...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:u5OGh.831$9g5.449@trnddc08...
> > In article <mJqdndrCbPJjGXbY...@comcast.com>,
> > fmo...@comcast.net says...
> >> ...and that is where we go wrong. I like the format I've seen where the
> >> public picks the bottom two or whatever and the judges pick who is going
> >> home. That way, VFTW has no power. That way, the teenage girls who
> >> think
> >> so and so tuneless wonders have no power.
> > Moni, the ratings for Grease are not very good. There' a lot of reasons
> > for it and the way eliminations are decided has to be a major part of
> > it.
> Okay, then what about the DWTS format, where the number of votes is limited?
> SYTYCD, I believe had the same voting format as the "Grease" mess had.
>
DWTS, at least used to, limit you to five votes per telephone line. In
some homes, that could be as many as 30 calls. That's a start if you
think limiting the total number of calls is a good thing. OTOH, the
object of these shows is not parity but ratings and dollars. Given
that, they should look to maximize votes not reduce them.
DWTS does not let the judges select from the bottom two either.
Grease is interesting, precisely because of what finally happened last
night. They had their bottom two Sandys in the sing off. Then,
announcing who was going to leave....the fellow who is fronting,
probably I think, 80 plus percent of the money (10 to 15 million)
angrily said "this is a split decision and not in my favor" or words
close to that. The other two judges saved the person he wanted gone and
vice versa. That makes for good tv but not if it is your 10 to 15
million dollars on the line.
It's cold and I'm the first to admit it, Moni...but if I were one of
TPTB on AI, I would not touch a doggone thing about the voting. It
works and gets them the desired results. They want motivated people
dialing furiously for two hours. It gets people to begin to "ante up"
for the future when the $$$$$ come in. For all the cranking that is
made about the AI voting procedure, it would be foolish to change a
thing given the success of the show and the brand.
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
>
> I always felt that Victor Borge humanized classical music. It sure needed
> it.
>
Arrrgggghhhhhh, I always found Borge like getting dental work without
novocaine.
(I feel the same way about Mark Russell, today)
Giggles
"fmomoon" <fmo...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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This is a strange group! How did we go from sex pictures of Antoilet to
Victor Borge? lol
fmomoon
Oh, I just loved him. I'd rather watch and listen to him than just about
any other comedian. For one thing, he knew his music.
fmomoon
"Giggles" <laug...@you.com> wrote in message
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> This is a strange group! How did we go from sex pictures of Antoilet to
> Victor Borge? lol
Bob Rudd
fmo...@comcast.net says...
>
> "Bob Rudd" <bob...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Sz6Hh.3752$kh.3356@trnddc06...
> > In article <OcGdnSTfNIDTIXHY...@comcast.com>,
> > fmo...@comcast.net says...
> >>
> >> I always felt that Victor Borge humanized classical music. It sure
> >> needed
> >> it.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Arrrgggghhhhhh, I always found Borge like getting dental work without
> > novocaine.
> >
> > (I feel the same way about Mark Russell, today)
> >
> >
> > --
> > I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
>
> Oh, I just loved him. I'd rather watch and listen to him than just about
> any other comedian. For one thing, he knew his music.
>
Tell me, Moni, that you didn't think Senor Wences was funny...please!!!
5016
wrote:
I just looked it up on the internet and realized how poorly it
translates to the written page, which is a testament to his timing.
The pauses around the phrases like "at this point I must have lost my
presence of mind" gives the listener the opportunity to anticipate
every calamity befalling the bricklayer. Thanks for the insight.
> Being a singer, I'm also very fond of "Tale of Hoffnung" or
> "Let's Fake an Opera." Brilliant stuff.
>
> The Other Mickey
>
>
>
>
>
> > There were Flanders and Swann around that time too. And Victor Borge
> > until recently of course. There doesn't seem to be enough demand to
> > support a lot of classical music comedy at any point in time.- Hide quoted text -
Mickey
> On Mar 5, 5:02 pm, Mickey <mickey_and_ed...@nomorephishsbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>>
>>The "Bricklayer's Story" is the finest example of comic timing I've ever
>>heard.
>
>
> I just looked it up on the internet and realized how poorly it
> translates to the written page, which is a testament to his timing.
> The pauses around the phrases like "at this point I must have lost my
> presence of mind" gives the listener the opportunity to anticipate
> every calamity befalling the bricklayer. Thanks for the insight.
Exactly right. The audience is always a step ahead of the teller of the
story. It is the painful dragging out of each revelations that makes
this tale so funny. I had a friend who did a similarly structured piece
about doing the introduction of guests at a nightmare cocktail party (I
believe it was based on a New Yorker article). Amusing on the page, but
devastating when delivered by a master.
The Other Mickey
Giggles
>
> "Giggles" <laug...@you.com> wrote in message
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>> This is a strange group! How did we go from sex pictures of Antoilet to
>> Victor Borge? lol
> It happens in the best of groups. :)
> --
Was Victor Borge the guy in the bj picture? :-O lol
fmomoon
>> any other comedian. For one thing, he knew his music.
>>
>
> Tell me, Moni, that you didn't think Senor Wences was funny...please!!!
> --
> I hope we can all be good neighbors online!
fmomoon
must.not.make.the.joke.......think.of.anything.else.